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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31634 = 0.949 BTC [+] {2}
Venat: sup in this fker
lewicki: if sha 256 breaks, can't the devs just rewind the blockchain, boot up the new algorithm and mush on?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0031003 = 0.1426 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: lewicki: Maybe? In the ensuring chaos though think of all of the opportunities for profiteering!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33889 = 0.6778 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3161001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3160325 = 1.2641 BTC [-] {2}
Venat: lewicki sha256 breaks? wut?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 86 @ 0.00310011 = 0.2666 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Venat: It isn't too likely in the next few years, but mathematical advances can be hard to predict.
Venat: BingoBoingo you bet!
Venat: is someone in this very channel into reverse engineering
BingoBoingo: Of course I bet Venat
Venat: bitbet? :o
BingoBoingo: Venat: For larger sums. Sometimes I'll throw smaller amounts at other betting sites.
Venat: larger sums lol
Venat: my current balance is like 0.0009
Venat: i used to grab 0.01's on primedice
Venat: but thats about it, bought bitcoins earlier this year but spend them on vpn and domains lol
BingoBoingo: Venat: I avoid the dice and stick to event and sports betting
Venat: to think I paid like 160$ for a stupid domain
Venat: according to the price now
BingoBoingo: A two or three hour competition lasts longer than a dice roll
Venat: i do enjoy sports betting
Venat: and I had two major hits
Venat: major being like 200$
Venat: for a 5 parlay
BingoBoingo: Venat: Well I still have this futures bet which could win from back in July http://bitcoinsports.eu/bet/6d7fa?destination=bet-slip
Venat: whats the yield
Venat: im not used to american rates
Venat: +31993 ~ 31.993?
BingoBoingo: Yeah Venat assuming the sports book would be solvent enough to pay it.
BingoBoingo: Sometime Venat gambling in BTC involves a meta-gamble when you wander from places like BitBet though
Venat: well
Venat: Surebets are nice
Venat: used to do those bets on betfair
Venat: well kind of
Venat: bet for more than 3 goals
Venat: one goal is scored
Venat: bet against more than 3 goals
Venat: profit????
gribble: The operation succeeded.
s3gfault: LTC is slowly destroying BTC
s3gfault: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Venat: s3gfault, define destroying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1944 @ 0.0000909 = 0.1767 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3334 BTC [+]
Venat: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1075.1, Best ask: 1079.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.90000, Last trade: 1075.1, 24 hour volume: 34464.01111674, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1015.05664
Venat: lel
s3gfault: BTC crashed against LTC. down 80%
nubbins`: beef crashes against pumpkins every october, doesn't mean vegetarians are destroying meat eaters
Venat: dem vegans
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 10 @ 0.02100499 = 0.21 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0031 = 0.2418 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31601006 = 0.948 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.316 = 2.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.316 = 6.952 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.316 = 3.16 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.315 = 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.318 = 1.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.318 = 1.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.31089743 = 12.125 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00177408 = 0.6742 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32079999 BTC [+]
Venat: I will kill you thursday, yoi should have stopped me wednesday
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3207999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3208 BTC [+]
pankkake: with all this crazyness, mcxfee holders would have been made rich
pankkake: worst timing ever
taub: why doesnt btcchina load
taub: but is trading
pankkake: great firewall?
pankkake: namecoin back to #3
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3051205 = 0.6102 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 377 @ 0.00034 = 0.1282 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.03 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00034 = 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02818181 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 446 @ 0.00034 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00333118 = 0.1732 BTC [+] {2}
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 989.82, Best ask: 1016.25, Bid-ask spread: 26.43000, Last trade: 1006.04, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1075.8, Best ask: 1087.50499, Bid-ask spread: 11.70499, Last trade: 1075.8, 24 hour volume: 34825.55193846, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1019.61128
Venat: so yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1177 @ 0.00034 = 0.4002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1137 @ 0.0015 = 1.7055 BTC [-] {5}
ozbot: BitBet - BTC will rise above $1500 USD before February 2014
mircea_popescu: it must really suck to be a noob and your whole experience with btc to be the various scumsites plastered all over the forum.
Venat: sounds like me
mircea_popescu: sucks to be you then!11
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1080.5, Best ask: 1086.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.50000, Last trade: 1080.5, 24 hour volume: 35029.03566976, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1094.794, 24 hour vwap: 1021.73019
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 998.57, Best ask: 1019.48, Bid-ask spread: 20.91000, Last trade: 1008.81, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
Venat: mircea_popescu, blows to be me
taub: wow litecoin
taub: bubble^2
Venat: isnt litecoin tied to btc
taub: not really
mircea_popescu: taub im curious wheere it pops
mircea_popescu: i suppose .1 is possible
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.32111248 = 12.8445 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.0003 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.325 = 1.625 BTC [+]
pankkake: no one even thought of making a litecoin/silver bet!
truffles: u just did
pankkake: well, not ON TIME
truffles: its not over yet?
pankkake: silver is like $20, so it is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.021911 = 0.1753 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.333 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1098.79999, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.20001, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 34980.19183841, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1099.0, 24 hour vwap: 1022.73387
ThickAsThieves: btc trying so hard to catch ltc
pankkake: bitcoin's the myspace of crypto
davout: pankkake: lol
truffles: i was talking about how turrble myspace was with someone yesterday!
cazalla: they're gonna string up max once it pops
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3102001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves over 1k!!
pankkake: $avg
mpexbot: pankkake: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
ThickAsThieves: ltc took my title of Pied Piper of Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: people are like "$1000 for one bitcoin? Fuck that shit! I can haz twenty litecoins, way better!"
ThickAsThieves: yeah and litecoin has a fancier logo
ThickAsThieves: btc is doomed
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1096.13, Best ask: 1099.9999, Bid-ask spread: 3.86990, Last trade: 1099.99999, 24 hour volume: 34923.80550052, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1100.0, 24 hour vwap: 1023.51859
ThickAsThieves: there it is
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
pankkake: this guy has a lot of dumb comments
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.33299999 = 3.33 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: they are saying you only have 30k btc mp
pankkake: "GTFO troll. Go abuse the trust system more when people disagre with your FUD."
jurov`: @ 1100 usd each
ThickAsThieves: yeah i suspect the guy took a new identity from some other faniliar
ThickAsThieves: like jimmothy is ffsixtynine or some shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00029244 = 0.7311 BTC [-] {5}
pankkake: i don't know, he seems to love asicminer a bit too much
ThickAsThieves: every forum knowitall loves whatever they just bought
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 971 @ 0.00029005 = 0.2816 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: he loves HIF, so, yeah :D
Venat: pankkake, je travaille
mircea_popescu: litecoins have a smaller amount of price!
ThickAsThieves: and higher amount of coins
pankkake: Venat: pour quoi faire ?
ThickAsThieves: so more fair for the republik of usa
Venat: je travaille, j'aime mon work
truffles: parce que
mircea_popescu: work =- travail
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well, 30k is mind boggling anyway, so.
Venat: is china going to crush japan
Venat: and take all of their btc in the progress
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.07999999 = 0.32 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: what, was some war declared or something ?
Venat: not yet :D
Venat: but china many warships, such power, wow
mircea_popescu: they been bulding it for a decade now. yeah. easily more military than the sum of the rest of the world
mircea_popescu: us and ru pretentions to the contrary notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: luckily they seem kinda peaceful, maybe we get a reversal to the historical medieval situation.
Venat: yea
Venat: kinda peaceful is the problem
pankkake: is anyone not talking chinese doomed?
mircea_popescu: "we're too big to fight, so just stfu and be reasonable"
dub: past eleventy
Venat: who knows whats their agenda
mircea_popescu: they made better world admins than the xtians ever did.
ThickAsThieves: Civilization V says the Chinese agenda is either the War Path or the Science Path
ThickAsThieves: lotsa science coming from china?
mircea_popescu: kinda, yea.
mircea_popescu: "With Bitcoin breaking the $1,000 barrier, it is extremely risky to invest in these crypto-stocks anymore. I have learnt my lesson after I lost half of all my bitcoins in BTC-TRADING-PT. You never know when these exchanges will shut down. Better not to invest in them."
mircea_popescu: wait, who was doing that ?
ThickAsThieves: who was learning lessons?
ThickAsThieves: or learnting* lessons, sorry
mircea_popescu: some guy in the "mp has now lost 95% of his net worth because i said so" thread
Venat: lel
Venat: people need to take farking responsibility
ozbot: James Collins Allegedly Called 911 Because Neighbors Wouldn't Drink With Him
Venat: O_o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 12sENwECeRSmTeDwyLNqwh47JistZqFmW8
pankkake: it's been going on for a while
pankkake: then there's some IPOs
mircea_popescu: "i am stupid and i lose btc. please send more btc to me"
mircea_popescu: sounds like a reddit value proposition
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
mircea_popescu: this thread is epic.
mircea_popescu: after 2-3 years of "lalala we know better" teh muppet parade is startying to realise that well... there's no place in reality for their fiction. o noes!
mircea_popescu: i've not had so much fun online since like
mircea_popescu: yesterday.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.0615 = 0.861 BTC [-]
pankkake: I am at a loss for words
pankkake: well it's quite boring actually. nothing very new
mircea_popescu: well actually "mpex scam" stuff was popular in 2012
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1010.14, Best ask: 1033.05, Bid-ask spread: 22.91000, Last trade: 1023.58, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: cca about the time glbse fucked a buncha forumers raw and mpoepr went lmao idiots, told you so, and they got really pissy.
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1100.0, Best ask: 1104.99499, Bid-ask spread: 4.99499, Last trade: 1104.99499, 24 hour volume: 35365.09765744, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1115.0, 24 hour vwap: 1025.67349
pankkake: I'm tired of companies not able to disclose any financial
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's not like they've not had an example shoved in their face for > 1 year now
mircea_popescu: by now if you're not on an0 you are a scammer. period.
pankkake: but they don't even do 1% of that. like "how many bitcoins do you have left". not even telling
Venat: "One last thing that does not really prove that mpex.co is a scam but I cant be the only one to notice that Mircea Popescu speaks like a sci-fi super-villain."
Venat: ahahahhaahahahaha
pankkake: lol I missed that
pankkake: but I don't get it
Venat: are you magneto?
mircea_popescu: wait, i do ?!
Venat: like a digital magneto, attracting all bitcoins
mircea_popescu: how's a sci-fi super villain speak ?
truffles: haha
pankkake: trying to find out the closest supervillian
truffles: magneto
pankkake: magneto is probably a good one
mircea_popescu: my culture is sorely lacking ;/
mircea_popescu: i can't even name a super villain
Venat: No matter, you are Stardestroyer Mircea the terrible from now on
mircea_popescu: how do i know he's super ? does the 20k leagues under sea antagonist qualify ?
Venat: man, they even attack your lack of css :(
pankkake: well he loves havelock
pankkake: can't have a more cssy exchange than that
mircea_popescu: lol the no css thing has been a meme for years nao
Venat: many design, beautiful colors, wow, so good exchange
pankkake: there's one guy doing even better: http://www.beeeeer.org/
mircea_popescu: one of the funnier parts was the "mpex doesn't even have a lot of stocks!!1" thing.
mircea_popescu: it suddenly dawned on me what he means is similar to "the ps2 dioesn't even have a lot of cartridges!"
pankkake: it's better to have more stocks
mircea_popescu: some "investors" really aim to be entertained.
Venat: i prefer stockings
mircea_popescu: yet they still won't jdice-invest like good doobies. i suppose that's boring.
truffles: so mp has lotta haters `
mircea_popescu: " Dear Sir, I am an Asian student studying in Europe right now. May I ask for one bitcoin for my education fund? You must have been bored with exchanging the bitcoins with real currencies, then why not investing in a youngster`s future? Thank you."
ozbot: Am i missing any BTC stocks in my portfolios? : BitcoinStocks
mircea_popescu: anyone explain to me how to do this ?
pankkake: never will get tired of this one
mircea_popescu: how do you leave comments on blockchain txs ?
truffles: no fun to be joking about mp anymore, too many haters
pankkake: I know you can do it from the blockchain.info web wallet
Venat: ok so can I spam my address so I recieve free btc for my education fund
pankkake: bitbet has comments though…
pankkake: I just have a blow & hookers fund
mircea_popescu: meh too lazy to do it. was gonna go for a "dear azn student : please see http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ "
pankkake: I did it once, but it was annoying to do this many transfers
pankkake: it was when people where watching the labcoin address
pankkake: I put in a goatse
Venat: damn, I joined #bitcoin
Venat: i shall we flooded with half truths
Venat: be*
mircea_popescu: builds character. to quote carlin, "we were tempered in raw shit"
Venat: mircea_popescu, you are a noble leader
Venat: i am most grateful
Venat: "<noobee_> please send me coins"
Venat: yea right, I will send you 1000$ worth of bitcoins right away because you installed multibit moments ago
mircea_popescu: you got the wrong mp. i'm the mean one.
Venat: are you the girl with boobs?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 354 @ 0.0013501 = 0.4779 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 596 @ 0.00133711 = 0.7969 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: if i spam a bitcoin wallet, odds of getting coins?
pankkake: you'd earn more by begging in the street
pankkake: which can actually be quite lucrative
mircea_popescu: prostitution beats panhandling
pankkake: well, that parts depends on your body
truffles: yea begging is unbecoming for me
mircea_popescu: so you'd think, but i have done this experiment. people will throw money at cute girls begging.
truffles: " Woman Forces Man To Have Sex With Friend At Gunpoint " wow
Venat: i really think mpex.co is a scam and I can prove it
Venat: it has no css!
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : all the other sites that turned out scams to date ?
mircea_popescu: they had css.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34395 = 0.6879 BTC [+] {2}
Venat: and most of them are examples of poor usage of bootstrap
pankkake: well, bootstrap is great for people who don't like CSS like me
Venat: it is truly great
pankkake: put it, just have some classes and people stop telling you it doesn't look good
mircea_popescu: depends who.
pankkake: see, button with gradients! now let me code
mircea_popescu: i think it doesn't look good.
Venat: state your reasons
ozbot: headfucking.net
Venat: the hell????
pankkake: so wwf isn't wild women fucking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: www.youporn.com/watch/375320/wild-women-fucking/‎
mircea_popescu: wow it exists.
mircea_popescu: everything exists
pankkake: that's rule 34. hmm, are there rules of bitcoin?
pankkake: 1. everything is a scam
mircea_popescu: 2. always seek for the largest low ammount of everything
truffles: thats ur blog pankkake?`
Venat: 3. mpex.co is scam, see 1. for reference
pankkake: truffles: yes. not very active
truffles: feminism
truffles: can i post as anony?
pankkake: I think "1. it's a scam" is a bit better
pankkake: you can post whatever you want
truffles: ill have to figure out how to do so lol
truffles: why do u have scrolly stuff mid page
truffles: weird
pankkake: it's a good example of too much CSS
pankkake: I just want to dump wordpress but need a good solution for comments
mircea_popescu: 3. webwallets are better.
pankkake: 4. you don't need transaction fees
truffles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqYLfm1rWA guess u didnt watch this pankkake
ozbot: Ms. Male Character - Tropes vs Women in Video Games - YouTube
ozbot: BitBet - 1 BTC will surpass price of 1 Troy Oz of Gold in USD
pankkake: 5. mining is profitable as long as you always buy new asics
mircea_popescu: o those are good.
mircea_popescu: 6. PMBs are better than actual asics.
pankkake: truffles: I think I did… and also there was a popular French feminist nonsense article about how how sexist men are in tech
mircea_popescu: 7. scrypt protects you from all the other bad people with more money and knowledge
truffles: seems so
pankkake: it didn't make me MAD, but the positive reception it had made me MAD
truffles: " don’t talk at a tech conference if there is a woman nearby." hmmm
pankkake: I probably did more for women in tech than these fucks
truffles: where is the comment button
pankkake: it's Responsive CSS or something. if you resize the window everything moves!
truffles: oh i have to login to do so?
pankkake: you shouldn't have to
truffles: way too much going on, on this page
truffles: i found it
truffles: 0 comments so i clicked that heh
pankkake: I have ~10 readers
pankkake: and I know most of them
truffles: will post a response by top of hr
pankkake: used to have more.
truffles: brief one ldo
pankkake: I have another blog with 100+ though!
truffles: well uh how do u keep up with all these blogs
pankkake: not the same content
pankkake: 8. value comes from belief
pankkake: hmm. not sure it conveys my idea
pankkake: 8. value comes from hope
mircea_popescu: 8. anything is worth whatever anyone believes it to be worth.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 29 @ 0.06062517 = 1.7581 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: 9. mc^2 is a sexist equation, because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us.
Venat: bitcoyne> wonder if bitcoin mining might ever become illegal like growing weed
Venat: lolol
mircea_popescu: i am guessing this is #bitcoin
pankkake: actually, at some point I thought people would arb between the most profitable
pankkake: because they both suck a lot of electrity
pankkake: and you can get bitcoins with both
mircea_popescu: weed is a pain in the butt by comparison to running a miner tho.
mircea_popescu: "someone lost a hard drive with bitcoins hiar"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33068803 BTC [-]
taub: https://btcchina.com is this working for anyone
taub: oh wow now suddenly
taub: oh, it doesn't work without ssl
mircea_popescu: it's been around fopr maybe half year
mircea_popescu: i imagine it shouldwork
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033201 = 0.166 BTC [-]
pankkake: even BingoBoingo has a reddit account
pankkake: what a shame
dexX7: inhibitor23, -84 comment karma :D
truffles: had to re-read the drama about the text, i hit submit dont see my comment
truffles: pankkake dunno why ud have spam block if thats it ..
pankkake: truffles: wordpress doesn't have it… i guess i fucked my spam filtering too
pankkake: shit
truffles: ill attempt 2 more times or so
pankkake: should work now
mircea_popescu: if at firsty you don't succeed...
truffles: awaiting moderation
pankkake: approved. I have removed the external service antispam, hope I won't get flooded
ThickAsThieves: can the Gox lists litecoin bet be done in a way so as not get "Bad bet."?
pankkake: there's this one guy who sends me PMs and still believes he can print money buying at btc-e and selling at mtgox
mircea_popescu: kinda iffy.
ThickAsThieves: attached a volume amount to it? what?
truffles: pankkake u have such controversial blog posts heh
pankkake: truffles: that's pretty much the only purpose of it. stuff that won't be removed etc. the older french content was way more controversial btw. many threats received!
ThickAsThieves: pankkake has a blog?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves basically they announced they will be doing it, 6 months ago
pankkake: inactive blog
mircea_popescu: what is the contention this bet is centered around ? mtgox lacks the tech ability ot add a currency ?
ThickAsThieves: i'm aware mp
ThickAsThieves: why is that not betworthy?
mircea_popescu: well, im just trying to understand what it is
ThickAsThieves: no different than BFL shipping
ThickAsThieves: it's pinning a ship date
mircea_popescu: it's always better for bets to follow contention closely.
pankkake: it allows insider betting too
truffles: wish i could read it pankkake
ThickAsThieves: the bet is when/whether it happens
pankkake: I hid it somewhat, though it's findable… it's probably for the best
mircea_popescu: ok so something like "Contrary to previous announcements, MtGox will fail to list LTC as a currency by X date. If at least Y volume of LTC is traded on MtGox by X date, this bet resolves as yes"
truffles: comment taxer les riches
ThickAsThieves: that would be great yeah
mircea_popescu: well other than the fact i fucked it up
mircea_popescu: ok, but fix it so it's not self contradictory.
ThickAsThieves: so much wotk this bitbet thing!
mircea_popescu: tell me about it.
pankkake: it's like mods get paid to reject
mircea_popescu: no, they just get their fingers in the door when a bet is to be resolved.
mircea_popescu: so natural cya
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, Gox lists litecoin is pretty damn clear...
truffles: to u
ThickAsThieves: unclear it for me
truffles: its complicated for non native speakers
ThickAsThieves: as most things are, no?
truffles: maybe
pankkake: bfl vs activemining bet still pending
betsson: Hi. why were there "Refund" the last bets?
ozbot: BitBet - Litecoin to rise above .04 BTC before 2014
betsson: I placed my bet before it touched that, the bet was still open for hours and hours after that
truffles: lol dont think theyre in the refund business
betsson: It says there "Refund"
betsson: what does that mean?
truffles: i dunno
truffles: i was making a joke..
mircea_popescu: it means you bet after ltc crossed.
betsson: I made the bet while it was still at 3.9
betsson: and on other markets it was even lower
betsson: anyway, doesn't matter
betsson: what does Refund mean?
ozbot: BitBet - Google Glasses will be delivered before the end of 2013
betsson: that we get the coins back?
ThickAsThieves: havent people ordered, paid for, and rec'd Google Glass?
ThickAsThieves: albeit a limited run
mircea_popescu: betsson yeah
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i dunno. if they have nobody reported it so far.
dexX7: betsson: the tx was probably not confirmed in time
ozbot: Want a Google Glass? It can now ship to your house complete with personal tutorial | ITProPortal.com
mircea_popescu: is this a reputed member of the community ? :D
betsson: dex
betsson: the tx was confirmed
betsson: it had 6 confirmations
betsson: and the bet was still open
ThickAsThieves: bet does not require reputed member of community
betsson: that can be verified easily
mircea_popescu: which tx on the bet page is this betsson ?
betsson: one second
ThickAsThieves: "On April 16, 2013, Google announced that production was complete for the initial Glass Explorer Edition units and the corporation would begin shipping.[43] On the same day, Google also released a web-based setup page for Glass,[44] as well as the MyGlass companion app.[45] Developers were also given first access to the Mirror API for Glass.[46]"
ThickAsThieves: thats wikipedia
betsson: I made two bets
mircea_popescu: 28-11-13 01:17 and 28-11-13 01:49
mircea_popescu: look at the graph, it closed around midnight
ozbot: Google Glass Now Shipping To Lucky Few
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so dump a link or two in the comments section.
ThickAsThieves: omg all the work
truffles: if work was easy, everyone would do it
ThickAsThieves: ltc bet resubmitted too
truffles: i liked Wall E heh
mircea_popescu: wow that ltc over 4 bet ?!
mircea_popescu: 10:1 against and it made.
mircea_popescu: submitter made .44 btc for submitting that bet.
mircea_popescu: not too shabby eh ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00311 = 0.4821 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00310046 = 0.3411 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34468 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.145 = 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00311001 = 0.1555 BTC [+]
dexX7: Final note : The process herein described is protected as patent pending, which means you may not claim you have invented it. That aside, the process is offered freely for use by any party for any purpose. << wtf
ThickAsThieves: s anti-patent trolling regulation
dexX7: aaah :D
mircea_popescu: well yeah.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.32044001 = 2.5635 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.32000003 = 4.8 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.00310726 = 0.4878 BTC [-] {5}
ozbot: Residents shocked that DeKalb County, Georgia, juror form lists ‘slave’ as occupation | The Ra
mircea_popescu: and i thought he's a stay at home bdsm type.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.311 = 0.622 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.30547999 = 15.274 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: AM1 is hurtin
pankkake: ltc is the next asicminer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00310033 = 0.1054 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 72 @ 0.03299822 = 2.3759 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: pretty much
ozbot: Let's understand together why BitBet is by far the best gamble in town.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 482 @ 0.0030054 = 1.4486 BTC [-] {6}
ThickAsThieves: wow MPOE-PR actually doing a PR job
ThickAsThieves: i'm impressed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 378 @ 0.00285001 = 1.0773 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: on her own dime, i ain't payin' for that shit!!11
mircea_popescu: "I think I know why NEO go involved. Ukyo still owes NEOBEE all of the IPO funds..." << any truth to thaty ?
ozbot: Let's understand together why BitBet is by far the best gamble in town.
kakobrekla: SHILL!
ThickAsThieves: you'd have to ask Neo of course
kakobrekla: how much do you pay for those mp
mircea_popescu: well if neo feels like making a comment at all, that's probably the #1 comment to make by importance.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla iirc that's the guy showing his boobs on jdice trollbox neh ?
kakobrekla: no clue
kakobrekla: i remember a vagina
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: vagina different.
mircea_popescu: the chick that shoved a wooden implement up her snatch ?
pankkake: mircea_popescu: actually he said "We have the IPVO funds"
mircea_popescu: pankkake pls to link for great justicthanks
ThickAsThieves: he says "We have the IPVO funds"
mircea_popescu: "We have the IPVO funds, Bitcoin was an innovation driven by the global mess we all found ourselves in, Neo & Bee was given a chance because of the Bail-in's here in Cyprus. Whenever there is a problem, there is an opportunity! This will all become more evident when it is possible to release the details in full."
mircea_popescu: he sounds a little tired, but good to know.
pankkake: thought that could mean "we have the funds as a number printer on weexchange"
ThickAsThieves: he mostly does his postings after work
pankkake: -typos
mircea_popescu: pankkake the problem with interpretative dances like that is that it makes communication impossible.
ThickAsThieves: but generally it's hard to give non-updates
mircea_popescu: bar any serious history a la inaba, we're to expect people know what they mean.
pankkake: what do you expect, FUDsters gonna FUD
mircea_popescu: that also.
ThickAsThieves: but the community so desires updates
mircea_popescu: "you people suck, how's that for an update."
ThickAsThieves: my policy is no updates until real updates
ThickAsThieves: but alas i do not run the world
mircea_popescu: mayhap one day.
ThickAsThieves: sounds like a bitbet!
pankkake: bad specs
ThickAsThieves: well the specs are simple
ThickAsThieves: bet resolves yes when TAT can will it to
mircea_popescu: lol. i\'m not paying for dns hacking research.
pankkake: hmm… I have a feeling bitbet would self destroy rather than be forced to do something
ThickAsThieves: awww ltc correcting
dexX7: depending on what you are looking at, no-updates can still be valuable updates ("we didn't run")
pankkake: if you actually need that kind of update, it's already bad news
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
dexX7: haha yea
ThickAsThieves: dexx7, if your previous update was sufficient, that wouldnt be needed
ThickAsThieves: also, i'm against appeasing the masses in these kind of things
ThickAsThieves: it makes the masses think they have a say
ThickAsThieves: and they dont
pankkake: "we are going to work in our undersea base for a month"
dexX7: good point
davout: ThickAsThieves: word
davout: mtgox is apparently really busy reinventing the wheel
davout: (aw shit the PR about their otp card is actually a week old, shame on me)
davout: oh wait no, the url says 20131120 and the date on the PR says 27 nov lol
ozbot: Mt.Gox - Bitcoin Exchange
kakobrekla: i got the thing in my email today
davout: update your spam filters
dexX7: same here
ThickAsThieves: So Gox is putting 2-fa in your 2-fa?
pankkake: so… more expensive than a yubikey but only works with mtgox
davout: i don't really get that, is there any point to it besides marketing?
davout: pankkake: they flash their YKs so you can't use them anywhere else
pankkake: oh and you can't use a regular yubi with them?
davout: nope
pankkake: the apple of bitcoin exchanges
davout: either you validate OTPs against yubico's servers
davout: or you feed it an AES key and do it all yourself
dexX7: http://whois.net/whois/bitcoins.com Creation Date: 2000-03-30T13:48:38Z ... that's pretty early?
pankkake: dexX7: probably was registered by many of those domain squatters. I wonder for how much it sold for
davout: either way this smells like a glorified google authenticator
ozbot: BitBet - Mt. Gox Fails to List Litecoin
mircea_popescu: davout a little recycling of stale shit. great for the environment, ok for the consumer.
ThickAsThieves: cool cool
mircea_popescu: "I feel as if I have been scammed.. Transferred from my BitBook to Just-Dice address they gave him and it's been 20-30 minutes, no BTC's and the address changed now "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.033 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32999998 = 0.66 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: why is "Any user will be removed from Bitcointalk DefaultTrust again" a bad bet?
mircea_popescu: theymos can arbitrarily do that, right ?
pankkake: yes… but that aren't things changed lightly
pankkake: at least I hope
mircea_popescu: what's that to do ?
mircea_popescu: bets tghat are within one person's arbitrarity are badbets by that fact.
mircea_popescu: not only because the person could just bet and ensure his own winning,
mircea_popescu: but also because even if the person doesn't bet it will still be accused of having bet and ensured his own winning.
pankkake: yes, but he would have probably more to lose by removing that someone
pankkake: my general idea was that someone "trusted" would become a scammer yet again
pankkake: but how do you define scammer and trusted
mircea_popescu: bets should be something more substantive than "mp will post a threesome on irc"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32999998 = 1.32 BTC [+]
pankkake: there's not much at stake for that though
pankkake: I was thinking the economic incentive would always be greater than the bet itself
mircea_popescu: there's an economic incentive to the forum default trust tree ?
pankkake: sadly yes
pankkake: well, I'll try to find another creative way to define trusted and scammer :p
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
mircea_popescu: yeah. doing god's own work here, these are q's that should be pondered.
pankkake: want to do a "an havelock listing will be a scam" too but again, how do I define that…
pankkake: it's not like there are even contracts
mircea_popescu: these are problems.
pankkake: This is coming at minimal cost to Neo & Bee (man hours)" if true, I'm not that mad anymore :p
pankkake: hmm, no. it means it costs man hours, not minimal man hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.31004 = 3.1004 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: so basically bitfunder is sold for 1 btc ?
Jere_Jones: Was easyco.in already down or did sending out that neobee update effectively ddos it?
ThickAsThieves: i have yet to see the site
ThickAsThieves: my guess is it doesnt exist yet live
Jere_Jones: 503 right now
nubbins`: so casascius says it's fincen that caused him to halt orders, hey?
ThickAsThieves: he;s a terrorist
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.31 = 3.72 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: TERRORIST TERRORIST
Diablo-D3: +ticker
nubbins`: ;;terror
gribble: Error: "terror" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: fu gribs
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1153.43168, Best ask: 1169.80003, Bid-ask spread: 16.36835, Last trade: 1170.73661, 24 hour volume: 33404.48434916, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1170.6156, 24 hour vwap: 1049.37753
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00176558 = 3.5312 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 58 @ 0.033 = 1.914 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: [10:04] <mircea_popescu> so basically bitfunder is sold for 1 btc ? <<< He makes no mention of Bitfunder actually, title is Weex
mircea_popescu: well i kinda think of both as the same thing.
ThickAsThieves: while you need Weex to use BF
ThickAsThieves: weex is currency exchange
ThickAsThieves: and BF is a stock exchange
nubbins`: weex: because you want to sign up for two things today, not one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.0008476 = 1.9919 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.0008476 = 0.9747 BTC [+]
pankkake: twice as many bugs for the price of one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8884 @ 0.00084626 = 7.5182 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: any way i turn it all i can see here is "neobee assumes as little as it can possibly get away with of bf/weex liabuilities in exchange of all assets"
firstblockchain: Invited here by deadweasel.
nubbins`: hola
ThickAsThieves: sounds like an okay deal to me i suppose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.0008476 = 5.8484 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: that's perhaps the worst piece of corp literature i've ever seen, ftr.
mircea_popescu: "Once the restrictions enforced upon us have been lifted, our plans will become extremely clear. Please note that any speculation with regards to our involvement is in fact nothing more than pure speculation. People who are invested, are more than aware that we are open, honest and will move the business forward at every given opportunity."
mircea_popescu: what in the loving fuck is that.
firstblockchain: I'm the guy who made an ass of himself yesterday by embedding proof of articles of incorporation into the blockchain using Manuel Araoz's proofofexistence - and then claiming I'd incorporate the first "blockchain" company.
mircea_popescu: o hi there.
nubbins`: ah! hey!
firstblockchain: Deadweasel was kind enough to inform me such concepts have been developed and working by some of the folks here.
firstblockchain: and suggested I come say hello.
ozbot: S.MPOE last 6900@0.00084760
mircea_popescu: that's one of the older examples.
mircea_popescu: no, actually. that's the oldest.
firstblockchain: Reading it now . Thanks - I wish I'd known about this before.
mircea_popescu: well nobody knows about anything until they find out
mircea_popescu: if you're interested in the point in a philosophical sense you may also wish to read http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ and the trackbacks etc
firstblockchain: Raised hell when I posted what I did and a link to my website on Reddit - but got a lot of useful feedback too - like discovering a working version of it here LOL
firstblockchain: thanks for the link
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the deeply hidden nugat of breathtaking complexity wrapped in a lot of superficial buzz.
firstblockchain: when I (recently) discovered some of the other functions that can be accomplished with the blockchain - my mind was blown - and now I discover folks have already been doing it. You know, the guys at the bitcoin foundation don't mention this place when they give conferences....
mircea_popescu: the guys at the bitcoin foundation are basically one scammer and some dorks.
mircea_popescu: they probably don't mention that part, either.
firstblockchain: I can see I'm going to have to dig in a bit and wrap my head around it. I live in Indonesia, and the first thing I thought of when I began exploring BTC was how powerful it would be to connect producers with consumers much more easily, by skipping all the middlemen, paperwork and fees involved in transactions. My main focus was how this works with the coffee industry.
mircea_popescu: yes, the idea is it takes six months to a year of lurking to catch up to speed.
firstblockchain: Is it a faux-pas if I'm the type of person who doesn't lurk, but just jumps in and tries shit to learn from the results / reactions?
mircea_popescu: depends how stubborn you are about it.
nubbins`: mm, coffee
nubbins`: i roasted coffee for a few years
nubbins`: indonesia has some nice beans
mircea_popescu: if you actually learn from the reactions no. if you keep right on like a webrat then yes.
firstblockchain: I roast here. Indonesia has awesome beans.
firstblockchain: I put them up for sale for bitcoin to show it could help create a better direct line between source and consumer. I was very happy with the result.
nubbins`: i recall having an excellent Sumatran peaberry, one of the best i've tasted
mircea_popescu: i recall there were about 3... maybe 4 coffee sellers for btc over the years
firstblockchain: webrat - duly noted
KRS1: two words for coffee: coasta rica
mircea_popescu: but they didn't really thrive for some reason.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 i know. i lived there :D
nubbins`: peaberries make nice coffee, but you generally only see tanzanian peaberry for some odd reason
KRS1: =D
nubbins`: my favourite origin is still ethiopia tho, sorry :)
nubbins`: nothing like a nice yirgacheffe
KRS1: must be the latitude
ozbot: Chestii pe care mi le doresc dar nu le voi putea gasi niciodata pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
nubbins`: central american beans are usually nicely balanced
nubbins`: not outstanding in any one regard, but really good overall
mircea_popescu: the pic is coffee being roasted in the shop downtown san jose
KRS1: neat..bet it smelled heavenly
nubbins`: roasting coffee smells nothing like brewing coffee :)
mircea_popescu: it was lovely to sit and have coffee there yeah
nubbins`: there's this one point where almost all the moisture is drawn out
nubbins`: and the beans are yellowing
nubbins`: and it smells like wet hay
nubbins`: really, really nice smell
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it was pretty pleasant.
nubbins`: i love it
nubbins`: havoc on my allergies tho, all the chaff floating everywhere
nubbins`: i visited a coffee plantation in colombia in 2010
deadweasel: oh, howdy firstblockchain
nubbins`: i actually still have some green beans here, let me see
firstblockchain: Hi deadweasel - thanks for the intro and invite
mircea_popescu: nubbins` only women have alergies.
mircea_popescu: men have beards.
nubbins`: ecuador organic espindola, burundi sogestal kirimiro, and a little bit of el salvador finca la montanita
firstblockchain: I've already received two links here that will keep my mind busy wrapping around what's going on here
deadweasel: firstblockchain: excellent. glad to hear it.
nubbins`: suppose you have allergies AND a beard?
nubbins`: oh, also
ozbot: THE BEARDS - If Your Dad Doesn't Have a Beard, You've Got Two Mums (Official Film Clip) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: my argument! contradicted!
nubbins`: TBF i shaved the beard and the allergies remain D:
Diablo-D3: inferior beard is inferior
firstblockchain: One quick question for a "frame of reference" as I start looking at the virtual companies here and how they work - are any of them based on real-world / physical product "businesses" people are running?
Diablo-D3: firstblockchain: nope, and I'd advise you to stay away from them
mircea_popescu: nsa is working on making a secure widget
mircea_popescu: mg is making a game
mircea_popescu: mpoe is making people angry
jurov`: 1200...
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: you got a contendor?
firstblockchain: understood - thanks for starting point
nubbins`: (contender?)
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: contender, and for what?
mircea_popescu: jurov` we're so filthy rich a 20% increase doesn't even register anymore.
nubbins`: beard
mircea_popescu: another day, another two-three billion added to bitcoin mkt cap
mircea_popescu: who cares.
jurov`: ohyea
nubbins`: heh, came across this one again
nubbins`: it didn't get much longer than that
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 12 * 1200 - 8.5 * 30
gribble: 14145
deadweasel: fire in the sky! nope, that's just nubbins' beard
mircea_popescu: fun fact : bitcoin gdp for 2013 so far is higher than iceland's
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1210.12101, Best ask: 1212.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.87899, Last trade: 1212.0, 24 hour volume: 34113.01465694, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1212.0, 24 hour vwap: 1059.5428
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the #117th country in the world by gdp.
nubbins`: now all we need is a Bjork
nubbins`: wow, NMC is worth actual money?
nubbins`: i discovered some in my btcguild account yesterday
mircea_popescu: i think i had bought 10 k or w/e back in 2011 when it was nothing
mircea_popescu: ciourse i have no fucking recollection who was holding it for me
nubbins`: wow, NMC doubled in value since yesterday?
nubbins`: this is great
mircea_popescu: we will have the best couch cushion stories in the history of huimanity
jurov`: it kinda spilled over from btc to ltc
jurov`: and from there to else
mircea_popescu: "and then i detached this stone which had been wedged in the sole of my shoe for who knows how long
mircea_popescu: and i sold it for two cars and a wife"
nubbins`: hahaha
nubbins`: right?!
mircea_popescu: much to the delight of someting awful and generally the butthurt brigade.
nubbins`: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1244.700000000000 USD = 1.01782502044 BTC
nubbins`: getting warmer..
mircea_popescu: wow that's close.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00084626 = 2.4085 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1070.02, Best ask: 1100.99, Bid-ask spread: 30.97000, Last trade: 1089.94, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
nubbins`: the milestones are almost becoming meaningless
nubbins`: light a joint at $420, it passes $500 before you're finished smoking it
davout: nubbins`: haha
thestringpuller: smokah da nug nug
davout: finally we're beating soccer player at making undeserved money
davout: *players
mircea_popescu: fu. it's deserved.
davout: soccer money? or bitcoin money?
mircea_popescu: it's the least all the inferior people on the outside could do to appease our glory and might.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 100000000000 / 21000000
gribble: 4761.9047619
thestringpuller: interesting.....
nubbins`: what's more deserved that recognizing an opportunity and siezing it by the scrote?
davout: i'll concur
nubbins`: *than
firstblockchain: re: http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ - I do believe I've finally found the like-minded people I've been roaming the planet for 10 years searching for. I've got some catching up to do - many thanks and hope I might be welcome back here again.
nubbins`: always welcome, cheers
deadweasel: firstblockchain, come back anytime. :)
mircea_popescu: ofcourse these other guys are all me, as it has been well established by various autoauthorities on topics and matters./
thestringpuller: I'm still cooking popcorn for when the EU tries to start regulating MP
thestringpuller: It's gonna be like the cold war 2.0
nubbins`: ah, the eu
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller trichet has yet to come kiss the pinky ring
kakobrekla: roaming the earth to find like minded people only to find them in romania
mircea_popescu: i guess the ecb is pretty illegitimate at this point.
thestringpuller: ;;ud kiss the ring bitch
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kiss%20the%20rings | "I've got a 2pm meeting with the boss... but I'm not about to kiss the rings." "You just got crushed 49-0 in Madden-- kiss the rings, bitch!" mark as favorite buy kiss  ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: kiss the rings
mircea_popescu: in other news, i gotta go buy some pinky rings
nubbins`: hey, speaking of eu, any of you euros care to recommend some must-see things on your continent? i've got two weeks next summer and no destinations in mind apart from the louvre
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla better than sudan!
davout: nubbins`: don't go to the louvre
nubbins`: shrug, wife wants to
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if you're going to france check out all their brothels. moulin rouge etc.
nubbins`: moulin rouge, good one
davout: tourist shithole :-)
mircea_popescu: davout :D
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah, i need one with spikes.
mircea_popescu: poisoned spikes
mircea_popescu: with barbs.
nubbins`: an airline here started doing direct flights from my city to dublin
mircea_popescu: davout admit there's nothing worth seeing in paris.
nubbins`: fun fact: it's cheaper (and quicker) for me to fly to Dublin than to Calgary
davout: did i ever say otherwise?
davout: :D
nubbins`: my family generally agreed that paris is a dirty, busy city
nubbins`: i've never been
nubbins`: altho most of my travels have been to dirtier, busier cities
davout: there *is* some food to be eaten
mircea_popescu: ok. now that we agree on that part,
nubbins`: wouldn't mind checking out germany
mircea_popescu: guy savoy/meurice/pre catelan are worth checking out
nubbins`: berlin in particular
mircea_popescu: lol davout
davout: DON'T YOU FUCKING LOL AT MY FOOD
mircea_popescu: i lolled at the fact we said the same thing!
nubbins`: food is always relevant
davout: aw sorry, food = srs bzns
nubbins`: food is the only thing i miss about korea
mircea_popescu: davout so where do YOU eat
nubbins`: this guy savoy thing sounds nice
thestringpuller: thanksgivin in muuuuuricaaa!
mircea_popescu: nubbins` contrary to what people think, three star restaurants aren't really THAT expensive.
mircea_popescu: happy dutch-indian party day thestringpuller
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: all relative, i suppose
mircea_popescu: <em>omg is it even starred ?!?!</em>
davout: i don't think so
davout: pretty cheap, pretty good, no fancy shit
mircea_popescu: In 1896, the Bouillon Chartier was born out of a very simple concept – provide a decent meal at a reasonable price and give customers good service in order to earn their loyalty. 50 million meals, and only four owners later, the recipe is still every bit as much a success.
mircea_popescu: sounds like a decent stable!
mircea_popescu: davout is it owned by mr tricatel ?
davout: it is really cool, and the fact that the location is beautiful doesn"t hurt
davout: mircea_popescu: LMAO
mircea_popescu: you must admit, i make an excellent snob villain.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 52731 @ 0.00041807 = 22.0452 BTC [+] {17}
deadweasel: no doubt!:)
nubbins`: "In season 3 of MasterChef it was revealed that Guy Savoy was Gordon Ramsay's culinary mentor."
nubbins`: i wonder if this savoy guy screams "WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE" all the time
davout: mircea_popescu: you need a cat
nubbins`: everyone needs a cat
davout: no no, a fat, evil cat
nubbins`: several people have suggested i visit beaumont hamel, but that's way too much of a fucking downer
davout: is it yours? is it fat and evil?
mircea_popescu: it's dead.
nubbins`: :( nice looking cat
pankkake: all cats are evil
mircea_popescu: this is why girls must be trained to be moar like cats.
pankkake: the only reason they don't kill us is because they're lazy and we feed them
davout: did you indulge in some rogue taxidermy ?
davout: you mean fat?
mircea_popescu: no, i mean feline.
mircea_popescu: which comes from fellatio./
davout: \o/
mircea_popescu: speaking of cats and shit, anyone's seen that film with the boy adrift with a tiger ?
mircea_popescu: (life of pi)
nubbins`: pankkake: i have few doubts that my cat would consume my corpse, if i were to die alone with her
nubbins`: that's life tho
nubbins`: havent seen the film nor read the book
davout: nubbins`: would that be such a terrible thing?
nubbins`: no, of course not
nubbins`: i certainly don't need it anymore
nubbins`: this is common with dogs too
nubbins`: owner dies alone, neighbours report smell, find well-fed dog and owner missing his face
nubbins`: it's just instinct
nubbins`: hm, $997.90 at virtex. would be great to see $1k CAD today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1270 @ 0.00084626 = 1.0748 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.09929999 = 0.1986 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: depends on dog.
kakobrekla: virtex?
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1245.700000000000 USD = 1.03377594219 BTC
nubbins`: drifting away
nubbins`: still amazing tho
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
davout: i'll start paying attention when i can get a kilo for a btc
mircea_popescu: next year.
nubbins`: silk road 3.0
davout: the next SR spinoff will prob use some trustless escrowing
davout: "escrowing" does this word even exist?
nubbins`: escrowtrage
deadweasel: it's in the log, it exists.
davout: lol
deadweasel: sheep marketplace I think is down.
deadweasel: reddit worrieda bout scam. finally.
deadweasel: vendors reported 60-70% use of gpg
nubbins`: that low?
dexX7: so high?
dexX7: afaik the rate was much, much lower on sr
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2664 @ 0.00007488 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {2}
deadweasel: gwern reports 30-50% from sr vendors
deadweasel: or the two that talked to hiim
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1642 @ 0.00007488 = 0.123 BTC [-]
nubbins`: well, y'know, give people an out and they'll take it
deadweasel: glad there is low-hanging fruit.
nubbins`: if you checked each text box for -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----, people would just wrap their cleartext messages in that and carry on.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3050 @ 0.00007457 = 0.2274 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: lol, true… and actually I thought of forcing people to gpg that way… but indeed it won't work :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00177475 = 1.4198 BTC [+] {4}
Venat: I accept mircea_popescu as my lord and saviour
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00151566 = 0.1364 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: pankkake "we will do anything it takes to stay poor and stupid11!"
Bugpowder: Anyone here based in HK?
Venat: im based on hc
Bugpowder: Looking for smoothest deposit process into one of the exchanges from an HK based account
Bugpowder: Any advice / experiences you could share?
kakobrekla: nice cropping
pankkake: yeah well, I'm a gimpy gimper
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.14488 = 1.4488 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I have the horse half cropped if someone wants to make better memes
kakobrekla: or just inspired by bbets logo
nubbins`: i made one of those too, hold on
truffles: lol is that end times lol
truffles: at 1st i was like huh, but then i was like that deep man
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1795 @ 0.0004999 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 990 @ 0.0005 = 0.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.000505 = 0.2525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9052 @ 0.00080134 = 7.2537 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00008809 = 4.4045 BTC [+] {9}
nubbins`: truffles: there's layers to it, like an ogre
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.0001009 = 5.045 BTC [+] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 31617 @ 0.00011965 = 3.783 BTC [+] {6}
thestringpuller: oh no S.MPOE is going dooown
thestringpuller: sell yo' shaaares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 333 @ 0.00080386 = 0.2677 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.09939989 = 0.1988 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 271982 | Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 | Next Difficulty In: 177 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 700646408.641 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.95756
mircea_popescu: "What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a bitch, make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother."
mircea_popescu: who said ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00080238 = 8.6657 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu do you have a published list of all the mpbor paid % and loss?
thestringpuller: like the graph you made last year or will I have to grep trilema?
parseval: Zaporozhian Cossacks
mircea_popescu: parseval wd.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller in the monthly reports.
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
kakobrekla: >And it made it even without any basic css work, amazing.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: HAHAHA
mircea_popescu: clearly it's a lie
mircea_popescu: because nothing of any value or import ever was made without css
mircea_popescu: even the french revolution had it.
thestringpuller: i like how MPOE-PR is pretty much just toying with him
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 999.79, Best ask: 1022.62, Bid-ask spread: 22.83000, Last trade: 1012.35, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 1179.1301
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.17999997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00080395 = 11.6573 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 212 @ 0.00051 = 0.1081 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.00177899 = 0.5782 BTC [-] {2}
davout: how i feel when looking at all these ATHs : https://soundcloud.com/user3216274/grossewin-de-1984
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.32974789 = 3.2975 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1015 @ 0.00012482 = 0.1267 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18030 @ 0.00012 = 2.1636 BTC [-]
jurov`: hm, should add october
unbalanced: Hi all, long time no talk. Who do I thank for the log site? That has made it easier to keep up with this channel on a tablet.
unbalanced: Although talking to said tablet is somehow less interactive. And now I'm way behind. In reverse order:
unbalanced: nubbins: agree with you that Ethiopian coffee rules
nubbins`: thumbs up
nubbins`: it's like drinking blueberries
unbalanced: Exactly the berries flavour.
unbalanced: Are you in NFLD I think I read way back?
unbalanced: Nice to see another Canadian representing
unbalanced: There's topace too, who else?
unbalanced: I think namworld was but haven't seen him in the logs lately.
nubbins`: yeah i feel like there's someone else
kakobrekla: ian bakewell
kakobrekla: also you can thank assbot for teh logs
unbalanced: Oh and the butthurt guy with the late bet, his "fake" IP was Toronto I think.
unbalanced: Thank you assbot
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
assbot: you are welcome
thestringpuller: i think it's time to replace bitcoin charts
unbalanced: Whoa assbot just Turing tested me
assbot: dont worry about it ;)
kakobrekla: hm i think i havent had this so called ethiopian coffee
unbalanced: I for one welcome our sentient bot overlords.
kakobrekla: i want some now
kakobrekla: or what are we looking for?
unbalanced: Yirgacheffe or Harrar, let me see
kakobrekla: i see harrar
kakobrekla: also yirga
kakobrekla: alright, ill get the two
unbalanced: There was a guy in Texas selling coffee for BTC a couple of years ago but never updated his prices... I bet it is $20,000 USD a pound by now.
kakobrekla: blah no turkish grind for harrar
unbalanced: http://bitbrew.net/edds-ethiopian-harrar/ <-- he did finally update his exchange rates I guess
ozbot: Edd's Ethiopian Harrar - BitBrew
nubbins`: never buy preground coffee
nubbins`: it's good for about 20 minutes after grinding
kakobrekla: i need to get a better grinding machine then
kakobrekla: any suggestions
nubbins`: search coffee snob forums, the second-most expensive piece of equipment in their setup is the grinder
nubbins`: burr grinders are best
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: no
Diablo-D3: about 3 days
Diablo-D3: as long as you keep it well sealed
nubbins`: much better than blade grinders
Diablo-D3: mmm conical burr grinders
kakobrekla: yeah i got the blade one
Diablo-D3: blade ones suck for coffee
nubbins`: you can get a decent burr grinder for $200 and up
kakobrekla: diablo sucks for assets
Diablo-D3: decent for spices though
nubbins`: and drugs
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker --market coinbase
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.64, Best ask: 1022.61, Bid-ask spread: 26.97000, Last trade: 1002.55, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
nubbins`: but seriously
nubbins`: uh, bodum makes a good burr grinder
ozbot: BISTRO | Electric coffee grinder Black | Bodum Online Shop | Canada
nubbins`: actually only $140 now
nubbins`: the sky's the limit tho, some people spend thousands on grinders for their home
nubbins`: that's a bit much for me tho
kakobrekla: i dont see this brand in yurop
nubbins`: problem with blade grinders is that all your grinds are different sizes -- dust and boulders
kakobrekla: o wait theres something
nubbins`: burr grinder produces uniform sized grinds for a more consistent extraction
nubbins`: Hario Skerton is a good, affordable hand-cranked burr grinder, but it's tiring
nubbins`: honestly, with a Skerton, an AeroPress, and a kettle, you could make a cup of coffee that would rival any other. All for about a $60 investment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00148857 = 0.5954 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.12100001 = 0.363 BTC [-]
unbalanced: agreed... I'm fine with my basic setup, as long as they're fresh ground beans
kakobrekla: so i ordered about 3kg of coffee from that site
kakobrekla: lets see what comes out of it
nubbins`: lovely!
unbalanced: enjoy
kakobrekla: i hope i will, most of the order will be gifts for people though
kakobrekla: if i like it ill reorder
unbalanced: firstblockchain, if you're still lurking, ping me sometime re: direct BTC trade for coffee, I'll mention it to a local roaster...
unbalanced: I've been planning to write an article about direct global commerce / disintermediation and was thinking of coffee as a perfect case, and when I read your post earlier today in the logs it prodded me to actually fire up the IRC client for the first time in a while.
nubbins`: the folks at Sweet Maria's do a lot of direct-from-the-farm buying
unbalanced: using bitcoin?
nubbins`: altho in the future, who knows?
nubbins`: if anyone could pull it off, it's them
nubbins`: they really know their shit, and they're not afraid to get their hands dirty
unbalanced: Noobs are always telling me that if they can't buy their Tim's with Bitcoin, what's the point? I remind them that not every part of the world has PayPass and Interac and all the other conveniences we take for granted up here.
unbalanced: Perfect
unbalanced: I think it's this sort of 50lb-bag coffee buying where bitcoin is way more useful.
unbalanced: Small store to small famr.
unbalanced: er, family farm.
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: sweet maria's also sells sacks wholesale
ozbot: Coffee Shrub | The Coffee Shrub
nubbins`: i almost went into roasting as a full-time business
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3297 BTC [-]
unbalanced: noice
nubbins`: did a few pounds a week for a couple of years
nubbins`: haven't touched it in a while tho
unbalanced: The coworking space I'm in should move into a roaster's. Or move a roaster in. People would never leave.
nubbins`: the problem with urban roasting at any scale is the smoke and odor
nubbins`: and afterburners are expensive :0
nubbins`: i've had people on the next block call me and say "are you roasting right now?"
unbalanced: Okay, so we move *next door* to a roaster. Noted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00080238 = 1.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9081 @ 0.00080134 = 7.277 BTC [-]
nubbins`: roasting actually stinks, better to move into a coffee shop ;)
nubbins`: even better if they bake, too
unbalanced: Good idea
unbalanced: What was that old Saturday Night Live skit where someone was so slow at conversation, the conversation would move on and then he'd come up with a comeback to something 3 topics ago?
unbalanced: That's what I feel like today.
unbalanced: For example -- BingoBoingo, thanks for the gpgpgp guide link above, I'll pass that around
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4222 @ 0.00010001 = 0.4222 BTC [-]
unbalanced: And thestringpuller, agree with you about bitcoin charts. I'm sick of having nowhere else to go for Virtex charts whenever things get interesting (read: dramatic) in the Bitcoiniverse because Bitcoincharts is down again.
unbalanced: Decided last week to do something about it so if I pull it off I'll pre-announce here so you guys can tell me all the ways it sucks.
unbalanced: I'm sure bitcoinwisdom or clarkmoody could add Virtex too but we do a lot of charting at work so we figure it might be a way to make ourselves useful.
kakobrekla: >SanDisk Technical Support is provided for customer service in which politeness and civility is expected of both support agents and customers. Use of profanity or abuse is not tolerated by SanDisk management. SanDisk management has authorized immediate termination of any support in which customer is intentionally being offensive or using profanity.
unbalanced: (and if you know of anyone else charting Virtex, let me know)
kakobrekla: they fuck me in the ass like a dog, then they expect profanity
kakobrekla: not expect*
kakobrekla: you catch my drift...
unbalanced: thought you might have missed a word there but didn't want to get all the profanities for pointing it out
thestringpuller: unbalanced: you want to make a replacement for bitcoincharts?
kakobrekla: myeah should have switched profanity with politeness and left the not out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5622 @ 0.00079957 = 4.4952 BTC [-]
unbalanced: and yes
unbalanced: For Virtex first... things that the big charting gurus are ignoring.
unbalanced: The OrganOfCorti site is great for charting insights... and is also a .ca so maybe he's Canadian http://organofcorti.blogspot.ca/2013/11/162-short-post-on-mapping-historical.html
pankkake: actually, blogspot redirects you to your country's tld
pankkake: that thing is stupid
unbalanced: Well crap. So much for driving over and taking him to lunch.
pankkake: oh, bfl now claims 65 nm is shipped right away
pankkake: perhaps he's canadian anyway
unbalanced: I haven't reached out to him yet, I just read his stuff.
unbalanced: But instead of quoting Tufte he links at the top of that post to a Naomi Robbins PDF from U of Ottawa, so I hold out hope.
unbalanced: The reason I care is I am starting up bitcoins.ca and I want it to have useful content, not just be an affiliate link hole like www.bitcoin.com
unbalanced: So charts, a mining calculator, how to guides...
unbalanced: I'd like to do an MPEX options calculator too. I will put a coinbr affiliate link up there, jurov... I'm not against affiliate links, I'd just want to add something useful to site to earn the traffic.
nubbins`: phew, just finished trimming 50 books by hand
nubbins`: we really, really need a stack cutter.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.0017799 = 0.3951 BTC [+] {3}
unbalanced: What sizes of print runs can you do?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 705 @ 0.00046 = 0.3243 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00177997 = 0.712 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00177899 = 0.3078 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.0029674 = 0.2255 BTC [-] {9}
Venat: hello
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00286922 = 0.1349 BTC [-] {3}
Venat: our god is not here
Venat: shine in his glory!
Venat: as he has paved our way
Venat: We should start the mircea cult
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00080099 = 2.2572 BTC [+]
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
dub: gizzold
Venat: what are these symbols called in english '< and >'
frb: angle brackets
frb: also less than sign and greater than sign
dub: lefty and righty
pankkake: Venat: the popescult
Venat: well
Venat: thanks frb dub and pankkake
pankkake: I usually don't call them but draw them in the air
Venat: pankkake, ca va?
pankkake: ça va
Venat: je cherche trop de books? online
Venat: sur le internet?
Venat: man, my french is rusty like fuquer
pankkake: trop ? you're looking for too much books ?
pankkake: sur l'internet
KRS1: Google translate of the Chinese site okcoin.com translated Lightcoin as Wrightcoin. =/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2758 @ 0.00079804 = 2.201 BTC [-]
nubbins`: unbalanced: we mostly do small runs, but have done some larger
nubbins`: have an order for 5000 silkscreened certificates in the works right now
nubbins`: books, we usually do less than 100 at a time
unbalanced: Nice, if I ever get an self-pub project written I'll contact you.
unbalanced: ^ Plenty of other ambitious things to do first of course ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2800 @ 0.0001239 = 0.3469 BTC [+]
nubbins`: great, always a pleasure to work on something new
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32974999 BTC [+]
Venat: nubbins`, I admire you
nubbins`: i can't imagine why
pankkake: your beardiness?
nubbins`: nah, i'm a baby-face now
jurov`: trolltalk down for anyone else?
pankkake: yeah
Venat: can confirm trolltalk down
pankkake: hacked again!
nubbins`: shit, that's where i keep all my bitcoins
pankkake: that makes me think, you could hide private keys in plain sight
nubbins`: private key steganography
pankkake: those that are generated from sentences
nubbins`: perfect until the forum you've stored them on goes down
pankkake: hehe
nubbins`: oh hey, i got a krugerrand in the mail today
pankkake: how much did you pay?
nubbins`: couple of btc
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: surprisingly small and heavy
nubbins`: that's a silver maple leaf underneath
pankkake: cool
pankkake: I don't really like the color of krugerrands
nubbins`: it's really odd, almost like a penny
unbalanced: holy cow the krug just transmuted your silver maple into gold
nubbins`: not nearly as appealing as .999+
unbalanced: Or you work in a darkroom.
unbalanced: Or my monitor sucks.
nubbins`: there's yellow lights down here
nubbins`: photosensitive business, screenprinting
unbalanced: Hi Namworld (There he is, .ca I wasn't crazy.)
unbalanced: We were just listing who might be in Canada
unbalanced: Do you still host VPS'esesss?
unbalanced: (Hi, I'm Troy McClure... I hung around here a lot during the April bubble, then reverted to reading the log site assbot made.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 310 @ 0.00036702 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 21056 @ 0.00033358 = 7.0239 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0003 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3080 @ 0.00028476 = 0.8771 BTC [-] {8}
Namworld: Well I'm somewhat retired from that. Arij manages pretty much everything for BitVPS now.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 4.46208006 BTC to 8`898 shares, 50147 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03175249 = 0.127 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.06 = 0.54 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: worth mentioning here, as well
nubbins`: you can trace almost every wikipedia article back to "philosophy" just by continually clicking the first non-bracketed, non-italicized link in each article
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00027002 = 0.405 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00286517 = 0.2865 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.32974999 = 2.3082 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3298 = 0.9894 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: will bitvps ever be relisted?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00079437 = 64.1057 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;calc (0.00078918 - 0.00079437)
gribble: -5.19e-06
thestringpuller: ;;calc (0.00079437 - 0.00078918)
gribble: 5.19e-06
thestringpuller: ;;calc (0.00079437 - 0.00078918) / 0.00079437
gribble: 0.006533479361
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00079461 = 11.3629 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.12100001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00079461 = 4.4498 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00079269 = 7.2737 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3130 @ 0.00010001 = 0.313 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5209 @ 0.00010001 = 0.521 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 4.040613 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00809734321104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31908 @ 0.00079052 = 25.2239 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9185 @ 0.00078908 = 7.2477 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: BitBet - 1BTC >= 1 oz gold before Christmas 2013
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 34485 @ 0.0001 = 3.4485 BTC [-] {4}
dub: !ticker mpex s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078616 / 0.00080075 / 0.0008476 (231533 shares, 185.40 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00079089 / 0.0008476 (891194 shares, 704.84 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082246 / 0.00088996 (5452525 shares, 4,484.53 BTC)
unbalanced: How much of that are you willing to allow? I could see a line monthly bets on BTC at 1000, 1100, etc all year long as almost an alternative to options.
dub: tanking
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1155.5321, Best ask: 1164.57941, Bid-ask spread: 9.04731, Last trade: 1155.5321, 24 hour volume: 32093.19373638, 24 hour low: 1032.15, 24 hour high: 1224.59998, 24 hour vwap: 1143.64194
thestringpuller: unbalanced: how would that be an alternative to options? wouldn't that be more of a futures contract?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18546 @ 0.0001 = 1.8546 BTC [-] {2}
unbalanced: Right, futures
unbalanced: But futures the average new holder of BTC can grok.
unbalanced: Blurry lines between investing/speculation/gambling... no lines, really
unbalanced: If we assume that mpex BTC options are the only ones that count, a series of bitbets would let people speculate on something further out.
unbalanced: But you're right, they wouldn't have a defined payoff.
unbalanced: Because scalpers.
unbalanced: It could cover more outcomes though, not just the price of BTC at date X but any propositions bitbet users come up with.
unbalanced: Samuel L Jackson remains the highest-grossing movie star of all time to Apr, May, Jun...
unbalanced: They could throw up a matrix of 100 propositions by 12 deadlines. But I guess that becomes proposition spam with no one anchoring each one.
taub: Lucky Strike Red (10 packs x 20 cigarettes) 1 0.19264 BTC 0.19264 BTC
taub: oh man
taub: they cawst me 200 eur instead of 20
taub: deflation man
unbalanced: A month ago?
taub: yea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.00177999 = 0.2848 BTC [-]
unbalanced: I think I've figured something out (or maybe read it here and boom, Inception)
unbalanced: The only valid thing to spend a deflationary currency on is something that will make you more money than holding it.
thestringpuller: unbalanced: that's not true
thestringpuller: you can spend profits over time as long as you mitigate the cash flow correctly
thestringpuller: for instance miners
taub: deflation is fine, but obviously rapid one like this isn't really classic deflation
taub: just growing pains
unbalanced: If it's the miner's only income they have to convert some to local currency to buy groceries and pay rent, electricity, sure.
unbalanced: (which allows them to continue earning a living)
unbalanced: But can we ever recommend that John Q Noob buy bitcoins to load on their phone to buy their daily coffee or smokes?
thestringpuller: unbalanced: no you can't, because that's not a good utility for it, and never was
unbalanced: Right, I'm with you there.
unbalanced: MSM misconstrues that all the time.
unbalanced: I really want to help popularize Bitcoin here in Canada, but without encouraging everyone to get them because they're just awesome.
unbalanced: Find the utility, use them as a tool.
unbalanced: Not to buy a cup of coffee, although if I'm a coffee roaster, I may want to *accept* Bitcoin.
thestringpuller: it's good for moving money around though
unbalanced: Collect it so I can send it to Ethiopia or Indonesia for more coffee.
thestringpuller: the idea use case would be: Person earns btc by doing some work
unbalanced: The good stuff, in big bags, without fees and middlemen.
thestringpuller: person spends some of those btc to you for a cup of coffee
unbalanced: Right
thestringpuller: there is no point in buying btc anymore
thestringpuller: well there is as a store of value....
unbalanced: Speculation sure
unbalanced: Speaking of which
unbalanced: I put up some propositions on bitbet...
unbalanced: BTCChina 30d BTC volume to exceed next 10 largest exchanges combined
thestringpuller: i would say the ideal situation for joe schmoe buying btc
unbalanced: Before April 1st 2014, Bitcoin will hit $2000 USD without dipping below $500
thestringpuller: would be to buy BTC and invest it in a good vehicle like MPBOR bonds on a good month
thestringpuller: or MPOE long term
unbalanced: How do they know "a good month" in advance?
thestringpuller: you don't it's hit or miss
thestringpuller: jurov has a sheet
thestringpuller: of previous months
thestringpuller: the more volatile the currency is the more likely there is to be a loss on MPBOR
unbalanced: Let alone how to buy on mpex. My Coinbr affiliate link: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=F5AaxgxFkQ
unbalanced: Nice, clicking
thestringpuller: if you're going to hold BTC and want to spend them, you need to have an income stream going into the btc economy
thestringpuller: or an income stream generated by the economy, however there isn't much worth investing in, I feel Havelock will go the way of BTCTCO soon
unbalanced: Exactly. Mining, or a useful web service, or BTC-denominated investments.
unbalanced: I have confidence in HI... just not in many of their listings.
unbalanced: I finally have some ideas for "services useful to people with Bitcoin in hand" so I'm working on those now.
unbalanced: Huh. The MPOE bonds on that spreadsheet have too much of a history of Taleb-flagged "blow ups" for my taste.
unbalanced: Well, they didn't go to 0 I guess.
thestringpuller: yea, it's gonna take time unfortunately but it keeps use from experiencing what happened in 2011
unbalanced: To which disaster do you refer? I can't remember that far back although I'm sure I read about it.
unbalanced: Have to bolt, will read the log later on.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18959 @ 0.00079422 = 15.0576 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 139 @ 0.00303288 = 0.4216 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6472 @ 0.000798 = 5.1647 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.03199999 = 0.352 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.311611 = 0.9348 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3116 = 0.9348 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00286776 = 0.152 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1958 @ 0.00139643 = 2.7342 BTC [-] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1241 @ 0.001346 = 1.6704 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00177979 = 0.6995 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.05088461 = 0.6615 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.00032 = 0.64 BTC [-] {3}
firstblockchain: unbalanced - hello from Bali. Saw your query about my bitcoin / coffee - article on my project was written here: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-can-free-coffee-from-the-middlemen/
thestringpuller: using bitcoin for coffee procurement?
firstblockchain: other way around
nubbins`: using coffee for bitcoin procurement
nubbins`: unbalanced: all this does is create a situation where people are reluctant to spend more than they have to
nubbins`: that's just being fiscally prudent :P
nubbins`: do i need to buy this coffee or should i save, all the while your electricity bill denominated in btc decreases each month
firstblockchain: next house - complete off-grid solar electric system purchased with BTC. - and a composting toilet too ;)
nubbins`: now you're talking
unbalanced: Thanks firstblockchain, will read up.
firstblockchain: cheers unbalanced
unbalanced: Was just watching The Amazing Race, they're in Bandung this episode
firstblockchain: Trying to find people with rentable / purchasable land in Costa Rica who are bitcoin friendly. Want to set up a few solar powered yurts, wire up with some good internet, plant some tubers and coffee and operate from there. Going to be a pain to ship my roaster there from indonesia though...
firstblockchain: just had some Arabica from Bandung. Some good stuff coming out of west Java now. It supposedly includes some of the old dutch strains that were originally planted way back when on the East Java plantations - the original "Java" coffee of Mocha Java fame.
unbalanced: Okay now I want to try Indonesian coffee. Will grab some at my usual stop for a change of pace.
unbalanced: nubbins, good point about Bitcoin making people properly frugal
unbalanced: Meanwhile the channel seems suspisciously quiet as if all the European reps are off for the day, on planes heading to pick up Black Friday deals in the US.
unbalanced: Or maybe it's just late.
nubbins`: it can be two things
nubbins`: but i mean, i don't regret buying things with bitcoin just because the value has gone up
nubbins`: on the contrary
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3294949 = 0.659 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00079665 = 7.8868 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: by the time the majority of transactions take place with btc, the amounts changing hands will be miniscule
nubbins`: you just gotta grease the wheel to keep it moving until it can turn on its own
unbalanced: firstblockchain, that article is way better than what I was going to write. I was going to write about the theory, you're doing it. Well played.
firstblockchain: unbalanced - been a wild two months since I started it. I figured, let's just do it and see what happens. Mostly getting to meet people involved with BTC and learning about all the possibilities - and different angles
firstblockchain: Quite the extreme - say, all the Chinese fiat investors, startups concered only with Gov't regulations, etc.. I met at Bitcoin 2013 in Singapore a few weeks ago - and say, what's been going on HERE for apparently much,much longer
unbalanced: Just ordered me 200g of your Bali Kintamani Arabica Coffee
unbalanced: Take that, Silk Road! Legit international trade in addictive substances.
unbalanced: Oh, Bitpay is good: "this invoice has been overpaid"
unbalanced: I'm still not used to $1000 BTC.
unbalanced: Just send me 10, I'll spread them around.
thestringpuller: boom boom boom
thestringpuller: i want to buy the best coffee on the planet how much?
thestringpuller: like coffee that requires 0 cream
firstblockchain: unbalanced - lol - just got a notice from bitpay about the overpayment. They won't let me accept it without opening a support ticket first. It says you can also request a refund.
firstblockchain: thestringpuller - if it needs cream or sugar, it ain't coffee
firstblockchain: unbalanced - your choice - happy to ship 10. I'll box them up and send them express EMS in that case. Appreciate the support either way!
unbalanced: I'll take 10. Do I need to sign off on the ticket?
unbalanced: Christmas gifts for the team
firstblockchain: Unbalanced Nice - thanks. I'll send in the requested support ticket. I assume they'll touch base with you to confirm that's what you wanted.
unbalanced: Sure thing
firstblockchain: Meanwhile - I'll fire up the roaster. Just got the latest green beans from the Bali Kintamani farms up the mountain here at the pad - roasted and cupped samples yesterday. I think you'll like these.
unbalanced: Nice, thanks man!
unbalanced: I envy your Tim Ferris lifestyle but now I don't have to envy your coffee.
unbalanced: nubbins, PM me your shop address and I'll send some your way, if you aren't washed away in the footage I saw on the Weather Network today
unbalanced: If not, I understand... but you post pics of yourself and your gold coins dude...
unbalanced: You might as well try Indonesian coffee from strangers. Live a little before someone shows up and stabs you for your coins.
firstblockchain: unbalaned - thanks again. Just contacted support - I'll keep an eye out for confirmation. Let me know if any issue arises on your end. Cheers!
unbalanced: Thanks
unbalanced: nubbins, I'm just projecting my paranoia about even coming out and disclosing that I use bitcoin.
unbalanced: I'm more used to lurking and reading but I think the senate hearings and Chinese adoption have gone to my head this week.
unbalanced: Exciting times. Anyway, I'll shaddup, catch you all later!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00079824 = 34.005 BTC [+] {4}
dub: laotian coffee is supposed to be the best
dub: but thats probably just circlejerkary
dub: firstblockchain: what do you know about rabies
firstblockchain: dub - if the dog's head is facing you, but his eyes are blank and the tail ain't moving, back the funk up
dub: got bitten by a monkey in that fucking monkey forest tourist scam
firstblockchain: <dub> I live close by. Seen plenty of people bit by those little shits.
dub: locals say they are clean but im sceptical and rabies is fucking scary shit
firstblockchain: The monkeys know you if you walk through all the time - don't harass you.
dub: docters back home had to call the CDC equiv, test was basically, 'is the patient trying to eat you? yes/no'
firstblockchain: Nah, tons of dogs with it here. They have to cull all the time because of all the rabid strays.
firstblockchain: Locals think the dogs are their reincarnated relatives, so they it is difficult to take care of all the strays.
dub: some odd customs over there for sure, saw a couple fo funerals type parties up close
firstblockchain: wild, right? last one in our village was a creamation for over 100 bodies. They have to save up for the cremeations, so the bodies rest in shallow graves for up to four years until the big "group creamation" is ready to go. Then they parade the corpses through town to the funeral pyre.
firstblockchain: cremation rather
firstblockchain: they are wrapped in cloth, and there's a ton of incense burning, but still on a 90+ degree day, it is one stinky parade
firstblockchain: still, not as bad as Sulawesi, Indonesia. There, the person isn't considered "dead" until the cremation has happened. So, until they can save enough money for a proper cremation ceremony, the corpse stays in the house with the family. They dress it every day and sit it in a chair in the family room. And put it back in bed at night.
dub: yah a buddy filmed on of those in ubud
dub: the cremation parade that is
firstblockchain: strong incense is an in-demand product throughout Indonesia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3288675 = 1.3155 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.0007987 = 11.3415 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00079813 = 5.5071 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00295058 = 0.1033 BTC [-] {3}
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