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nubbins`: well, no, but most people would choose not to snort a line of it, given the choice
nubbins`: my two-year quitting anniversary was last week
BingoBoingo: Congrats nubbins` if you mean tobacco. If you were talking powder though that isn't so big of a deal.
nubbins`: tobacco
nubbins`: i like things way too much to ever try coke
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BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Coke is a relatively easy quit though. Really a take or leave it sort of thing. Tobacco is a bit more insidious though. On top of half your neurons containing nicotinic-cholinergic receptors there are a bunch of mono-amine reductase inhibitors in tobacco which are much less frequently mentioned.
mike_c: suck it mindreader
nubbins`: well, it's a much more innocent habit on the surface, too, which makes it seem like less of a problem
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: and if it's not a big problem, why quit?
mircea_popescu: this entire tobacco is addictive talk is hogwash. i've been smoking for about twenty years now, at the rate of about one pack a month
mircea_popescu: not bad mike
nubbins`: then why do i still get intense cravings for cigarettes when i see people smoking on tv?
mike_c: physical addiction ends in.. 3 weeks i think
mike_c: after that it's psychological
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe this chemistry versus food thing continues across the Atlantic, and to things not entirely food. Or maybe I don't get enough pussy.
nubbins`: mike_c: +1
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have no fucking idea tbh.
nubbins`: 3 weeks and your body is nicotine-free
mike_c: i.e. your mind still remembers nicotine as a great way to relieve stress
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: because it's burned into my brain
mircea_popescu: what stress.
nubbins`: i'm still a smoker, and always will be
mircea_popescu: maybe that's it, i don't stress enough to addict.
VanCleef: the only to quit smoking is to be locked away on a island somewhere with a girl where you cant buy smokes and everytime u get a craving get a gobbie instead
nubbins`: i just haven't had a cigarette in two years
mike_c: that is interesting.. could be mp.
VanCleef: till the nicotine leaves your system
mike_c: nubbins`: agreed.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i did have fairly high stress levels during that period of my life
nubbins`: but i can't lay the blame fully on that
mircea_popescu: some of the girls smoke, for that matter. i sometimes join in over coffee, but i don't recall ever craving it
dub: kicking smoking is easy
dub: just dont be a bitch
nubbins`: dub, if you're ready to quit, it is
nubbins`: you just don't smoke
BingoBoingo: I'd have to say if I could choose which of the drugs I've tried to have an addiction to I'd probably want it to be Ketamine. That was fun. Coke was kind of fun, but bleh.
dub: yep
nubbins`: what's easier than not doing something?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Starting a fire.
nubbins`: hell, i'm not having a cigarette this very moment
mircea_popescu: ketamine ?! isn't that basically an anti allergic thing ?
nubbins`: ketamine is a dissociative
dub: no
nubbins`: they put dogs to sleep with it
dub: they use it for trauma anesthesia too
nubbins`: er yeah, that's what i meant
nubbins`: forgot that "sleep" is a euphemism in pet-world
dub: I've mainlined it recreationally, not a whole lot of fun
mircea_popescu: dub i could swear they used it as antihistamine here in the 90s
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is an anesthetic, but more than anything exotic it has a good feel. If I was picking an antihistamine to be addicted to I'd probably go with mirtazapine.
nubbins`: i've had insane antihistamines
nubbins`: they just make you sleepy
nubbins`: had an injection once, slept for most of 4 days
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: They only make you sleepy until they take your further than sleepy.
nubbins`: heh!
BingoBoingo: Once they take you further than that... You have to start hedging vague memories of a past you with the word allegedly.
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nubbins`: if i had a dollar for every "allegedly"...
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, that's the explanation of the bizarre written style some people employ filling any discussion of their past with "allegedly" ? they're pill poppers ?
nubbins`: hell, if i had a dollar for every time i achieved complete awareness
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: either that, or they plead not-guilty
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, sometimes they are drunks. Othertimes they are too paranoid to trust their counsel. Any of those three reasons though might have saved the fatso running Gox.
mircea_popescu: "i've allegedly signed some papers i've never read"
mircea_popescu: yeah, sounds grand
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And that is why GPG is great. It forces the removal of "allegedly" or forgery.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe you send some federal magistrates Cardanos as a promotion?
nubbins`: can you gpg sign your whereabouts on the evening of the 16th?
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: that's a lot of Cardanos ;)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they'd probably think it's a bomb.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I just might be able to. I actually think I auth'd with gribble last Wednesday.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe only make one or two bombs then.
asciilifeform: phun phact: one of my old workplaces, a military lab, had ads hanging in the lounges, offering decent $ (around a thousand if i recall) for being given ketamine.
mircea_popescu: how would you pick who to send them to then
asciilifeform: most of the 'take a phone #' tabs remained in place. very few takers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: After stage 2, 3, and 4 of your latest bounty.
dub: asciilifeform: so you worked with a bunch of drug users
BingoBoingo: SOunds more like testing dub
asciilifeform: dub: there were also ads for 'agree to be given malaria.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't be that hard to get ?!
asciilifeform: easy to get. they stuff an arm into a sort of chamber filled with 'anopheles.'
dub: theres a pretty narrow band in whih ketamine is 'fun' a lot of users know this and avoid it
dub: for medical grade ketamine I would say its not enjoyable at all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant the ketamine
asciilifeform: afaik it (ketamine, not malaria) was being tried as a 'ptsd' cure.
mircea_popescu: o wait, they gave it to you
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ketamine as well as Molly test rather well for that purpose in limited studies.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i believe those were the 'limited studies.'
asciilifeform: nobody took the offer because, as i understand, grunts didn't want to burn through their paid leave.
asciilifeform: lying around in a lab, answering quizzes while being injected with strange.
dub: mdma is considered perfectly safe and quite useful for a number of things
dub: sexual dysfunction included
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, there have been some in North America too. It is a situation where differing definitions of recovery and diagnoses conflict. I've had a cousin who while in the service got an AIDs shot in an experiment and still has something resembling an immune system though, so...
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dub: pure mdma in the vein is pretty interesting too
BingoBoingo: dub: Most MDMA isn't pure though. It actually gets less pure when powdered and refered to as "Molly"
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dub: yeah with all kinds of shit thrown in for extra bang (heroin is popular)
BingoBoingo: dub: Do you remember Darryl Strawberry?
dub: no but im !murican
BingoBoingo: dub: He was a ball player. He actually looks healthier now.
dub: sounds like an all american story, baller turned crackhead turned pastor
nubbins`: hmm, this new purple emulsion we bought has turned brown
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dub: purple drank?
nubbins`: nah, it's basically photosensitive glue
BingoBoingo: dub: More like baller turned crackhead, turned regular at the local hooters, but still.
mircea_popescu: a guy with a name like darryl strawberry should be involved in the child sex trade, not fucking drugs
nubbins`: never had it change color like this before
nubbins`: darryl strawberry was on the simpsons once
BingoBoingo: ChaangNoi: What is Cognitive going for lately?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: When's the last time you were on TradeFortress's CoinChat?
mircea_popescu: i never was.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, I though you said sometime you had stopped by to visit.
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mircea_popescu: quote it if possible
BingoBoingo: I'll search the logs, might be a while. Or maybe I'm trippin balls. Probably the latter.
nubbins`: maybe
nubbins`: has the room filled up with vibrations yet?
mircea_popescu: “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their s
mircea_popescu: ense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
nubbins`: huh.
mircea_popescu: quote of the day
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mircea_popescu: im a one chan type of guy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58999999 = 1.18 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I understand. I need to blog moar.
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nubbins`: all those guys who bought AM shares at 4+ must be fitting themselves for ropes right now
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00209 = 0.2069 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: How are the ones who sold at 4+ doing though... Sometimes that lack of a proper market helps enrich the tards.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.0055 = 0.341 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Anyone in this channel play chess at all?
nubbins`: i play occasionally. not very good
nubbins`: used to play via SMS with a friend who moved away. two boards + algebraic notation ;)
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Neither am I. ~950 Elo rated if anyone cares.
nubbins`: i've printed chessboards, too
nubbins`: fun stuff
nubbins`: regulation-size boards are huge. they make for good wall art
BingoBoingo: Yeah they do. Finding decent glue to hold the pieces is another challenge though.
nubbins`: my dad's big into woodworking, he has an insane glue collection
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Prefer white or black?
nubbins`: i've just been printing flat ones on cotton rag so far, but i'm hoping to try printing directly to wood soon
nubbins`: i prefer white
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: PM me if you want to start a game.
nubbins`: will do, pretty hectic these days but i'm sure i can find somewhere to set a board up
BingoBoingo: (unless assbot is plugged into Rybka)
nubbins`: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.011352 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00202673808434 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
nubbins`: like six minutes ago?
nubbins`: gribble: MtGox lag is 580874.405675 seconds. During this time, light travels 1164.06580518 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
nubbins`: actually, 4 minutes ago
nubbins`: guess they're having problems :p
BingoBoingo: I was thinking April. I didn't realize they still pretended they had volume.
mod6: yeah, back this spring it went down for quite a long time.
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 265682 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 429 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 45 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 382512508.366 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.87182
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.06999999 = 0.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 475 @ 0.00114999 = 0.5462 BTC [+]
mod6: huh, just saw this site for the first time: http://www.digitalattackmap.com/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 0.06999999 = 1.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0055 = 0.308 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.56114286 = 7.856 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: so who here has heard the term "neoreactionary" before ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Wait a bit, nubbins` needs to learn this chess thing
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Isn't neoreactionary an #Urbit thing?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it may be.
ozbot: In which I discuss things I have no idea about pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: I'll get to reading once the kingdom of nubbins` falls
nubbins`: looks pretty grim
mircea_popescu: by the way, didja know fiat-iq is also inflation prone ?
BingoBoingo: Today might be the day the Ras Tafari beats the I'talians http://i.imgur.com/WnROeUp.jpg
mircea_popescu: (in the sense the 100 iq average is periodically resampled)
BingoBoingo: I have a feeling raw IQ like mining probably has fundamental problems in that the people anticipating profits don't know how to wipe.
mircea_popescu: still, probably the one applciation of asciilifeform's slavecoin
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: my board's fancier
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Your board also lacks things to take on c5
mircea_popescu: bingo has won
mircea_popescu: that F pawn is a queen pretty much
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the f or the h pawn depending on how he decides to struggle. Preferably the f though to avoid a forced stalemate.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing he can do to prevent the F
mircea_popescu: if he moves before it you push the h/e pawns into him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00555 = 0.161 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: preferably g first as it needs a move anyway
BingoBoingo: Now the f-pawn is inevitable.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is over, so I'll read nao
nubbins`: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfu11uljk3kjbcs/chess.svg if anyone wants a board i made in .svg format
nubbins`: on that note, it's 4:30am. nite
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34989999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34989999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00083474 = 3.2555 BTC [+]
taub: i want it to drop hard again
taub: not sure it will
BingoBoingo: taub: How long wou willing to wait?
taub: cant say
taub: if we go back up above this high (204 on bitstamp) its not good :D
taub: basically means "yea there was a huge selloff, no big deal got absorbed, on we go"
taub: short term 1-2 days i'd say bearish to rangeish
BingoBoingo: I think the new idiots are going to take us to a new high
taub: gtg
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21735 @ 0.00083233 = 18.0907 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00224993 = 0.3375 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 242 @ 0.00114998 = 0.2783 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Also, this BitBet should probably resolve. I though it would have taken longer... http://bitbet.us/bet/545/no-such-labs-higher-market-cap-than-s-mg/#c1660 Apperently S.NSA rocks the marketing though.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how do you figure ?
mircea_popescu: $ticker m s.mg
mircea_popescu: $vwap m s.mg
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mg
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MG 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00016401 high: 0.00018 low: 0.00015 volume: 27127 btc: 4.44903 30 day: average: 0.00017041 high: 0.00018001 low: 0.00015 volume: 45227 btc: 7.70704
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The BitBet? I just mathed the last prices into market caps
BingoBoingo: From the MPEx.co site.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082835 = 7.7865 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Then again websites are notoriously unreliable.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00017041 * 88096605
gribble: 15012.542458
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.nsa
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: average: 0.000235 high: 0.000235 low: 0.000235 volume: 5000 btc: 1.175 7 day: average: 0.00010108 high: 0.00028 low: 0.0001 volume: 726000 btc: 73.383 30 day: average: 0.00010017 high: 0.00028 low: 0.0001 volume: 4743075 btc: 475.095695
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00010017*4737075
gribble: 474.51280275
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 15012.542458 / 474.51280275 * 100
gribble: 3163.78027547
BingoBoingo: I might also be a bit drunk to math, but... I was under the impression S.NSA and S.MG were both 100 million shares and S.BBET was 10. I may have mathed or contracted wrong though.
mircea_popescu: s.mg is 3163.x% s.nsa
mircea_popescu: no. s.nsa sold ~4mn, which became the total authorised float. s.mg sold ~88mn, which became the total authorised float
BingoBoingo: I see. This is why I bet rather than invest.
BingoBoingo: I'm still inclined to believe a production Cardano will ship before Euloria hits production.
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mircea_popescu: possibly. entirely different items.
mircea_popescu: at least in their lifecycle. eulora for that matter is already available.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A form of Eulora is available. I wonder how many people might want to buy 5+ Demigod or Lich characters in Eulora versus people who might see a need for as many Cardanos.
mircea_popescu: i doubt there will be five liches active at any one time in eulora.
mircea_popescu: maybe with a population surpassing wow.
BingoBoingo: I mean RSA is old, 70's math and still stands with proper key pairs. It seems the kind of asymmetric encryption still. I mean how did Rand corporation grow so big?
mircea_popescu: in general in computer science people split into two groups, ie, the retards and the competent, by the code they use.
mircea_popescu: retards imagine "all new code" is better, as if code rusted.
mircea_popescu: competent people still use the 1950s C and the 1970s C compiler
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Depends on what you mean by code. Language would probably be a dubious distinction. The way they organize their code is probably the point.
BingoBoingo: Who cares how many person hours Python saves if the code runs 100x slower.
mircea_popescu: no, language is a fine distinction. the practical choice one has today is still the same one had in 1960 : eiher something algol-like, something haskel-like, something lisp-like or perhaps an stack insanity a la asm.
mircea_popescu: c has been repackaged 12+ times in the intervening 50 years to appeal to retarded teenagers
mircea_popescu: im not sure what's fashionable now that java and ruby are dead, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: lisp started doing the same thing strictly out of frustration, like the geek that's now wearing a new jockstrap each week maybe he gets to be as popular with the young ditzes as the jock
BingoBoingo: Yeah. I've only ever dealt with C++, Fortran, and Python in that order. C++ I remember as fast, fortran was verbose, and I never wrote anything important enough to feel slow though other people's .py programs have.
BingoBoingo: Do geeks wear jockstraps nao?
BingoBoingo: I mean the armory wallet is a python program where going through the interpreter on Linux it is unbearably slow though when compiled for Windows it was fast.
mircea_popescu: well poorly optimised compilers are really a distantly related subdiscussion
BingoBoingo: Of course. As are people trying to substitute interpreters for compilers a la the Lisp machine.
BingoBoingo: I think in computing there might be some almost necessary balance between complete control and optimal speed.
mircea_popescu: this is untrue. writing directly in assembler is both the most control and the most speed.
mircea_popescu: the balance is between (laziness, ignorance and their offspring) in the human operator on one end and (sugar spice and everything nice) in the machine on the other.
jurov: morning
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably, but it is quite a leap creating code that can be organized in assembly for the TI-89 and assembler for a modern x86 chip. I imagine the leap to the assembler OCL compile to would be still harder to organize.
mircea_popescu: it's a homologuous problem to beating the machine in the numbers game earlier.
mircea_popescu: you need a big head to do it.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At some point even a big head faile unless is surrenders to the aspersorzing. The TI-89 and the 0x0 Macs were the last machines I remember assembler and BASIC flavors being comparably organizable, though my experience in the matter is limited.
mircea_popescu: this is basically institutional laziness created to not throw the curve for black people.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact asm is quite transparent and quite transparently used by actually competent programmers, such as malware creators.
mircea_popescu: even for and on modern systems
mircea_popescu: that this isn't required of sophomore it students in the west speaks more of the poor quality of it education in the west.
BingoBoingo: Once I finally got internet access programming the computers fell into the backseat and finding pr0n on the computers moved to the fore. A failure of education may be one factor. There is probably also a failure of inflicting hunger as well though.
BingoBoingo: I've always counted on malware wuthors being necessarily more sophisticated since they are more likely to have primal motivations like hunder fueling their master of the craft.
mircea_popescu: see, im not sure why hunger and education'd be separate issues.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I butchered the typing on that sentence...
mircea_popescu: "either write a chess program in asm or starve for one month" seems a perfectly healthy proposition for any 20 year old to confront.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They probably ought not be so separated, but when a 'Murican school feeds all of the students like the football team everyone gets fat and no one really wants for anything. Having heavy a fat offensive line undermines the school's educational mission.
mircea_popescu: well... it's easier, and more comfortable, and always easier to find cheap waitresses than cheap mistresses, so...
BingoBoingo: Of course.
mircea_popescu: it's funny, they go to all this trouble to make school as much like a prison as possible, but then fail to take advantage of any of the implicit benefits.
Vexual: the comparative success of peeps at the pointy ends of a bell curve isn't realteable to the hardship of the masses
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I took a seminar on the Kritik der reinen Vernunft where after covering the transcendental aesthetic and analytic the professor just stopped. The transendental dialectic, pure reason, and the doctrine of method remained. In a graduate seminar where physical hunger ought be expected of the students. Thus I stopped taking academic philosophy seriously as covered in the program.
mircea_popescu: i don't know americans ever had the opportunity to listen to philosophy lectures in their country.
mircea_popescu: maybe if some actual philosopher ever visited and felt inclined to talk to the hordes, which seems improbable.
mircea_popescu: Vexual what's that mean ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There was once. This fellow William James at a point finally overcame his neuroses and condensed his principles of psychology into Psychology a Briefer course. Then his own dementia and this Dewey asshole had to undo his good work.
mircea_popescu: well ok, but psychology is not philosophy. and for that matter, really difficult to argue it into much more than a fashionable lady passtime.
Vexual: you could throttle every internet user today to 300 bps and give them a book on asm.. one guy would make the porn come fast
mircea_popescu: perhaps. how would this constitute schooling ?
Vexual: the only reason he did was because he could
mircea_popescu: schooling is all about putting people in controlled environment designed for their changing.
Vexual: thats my point
Vexual: who do you want to school?
mircea_popescu: hardly a point. this seems the three year old's expectation that his mother will feed him because she can.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, it was the age before you could deform a turtle into a peanut. Before and greater than James there was this Charles Pierce fellow, but he ate garbage even though in set theory papers are still now not uncommonly found to have proofs he offered earlier. Logic isn't quite philosophy though either.
mircea_popescu: and i don't want to school anyone, there's about 10mn people pretending they are schooling a hundred million kids in the us.
Vexual: that one guy isnt trying to school anyone
BingoBoingo: I will confess John Dewey ruined 'Murica's chance of having a philosophical legacy.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the list is longer than pierce, who is imo respectable, but exactly : logic is logic, and "utilitarianism" isn't much philosophy.
Vexual: if one was to create a programming language, then the idea is to school people
mircea_popescu: and i don't think dewey ruined anything. i think dewey just "cut through the cuts that were there" as the old azn story goes.
mircea_popescu: Vexual the idea to school people comes from a desire to have them powerful and idnependent citizens, rather than worthless dependent subjects.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0055 = 2.75 BTC [-]
krlbrgmn: what did just happen to the price?
BingoBoingo: Pragmatism in the tradition of James (and Pierce would distinguish himself by surrendering pragmatism to the label or pragmaticism) isn't quite the utilitarianism of Hume or Dewey as it is often presented though. So long as you stop reading James before he goes all Jebus, and spz world peace.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 203.20000, Best ask: 204.97933, Bid-ask spread: 1.77933, Last trade: 204.98000, 24 hour volume: 96843.45810453, 24 hour low: 175.30001, 24 hour high: 233.40000, 24 hour vwap: 206.41400
mircea_popescu: krlbrgmn what ?
krlbrgmn: the flash crash
mircea_popescu: im sorry, price is 200, day min max is 175/233. what flash crash ?
mircea_popescu: did i miss something ?
krlbrgmn: 175/233 is a 25% difference
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: Just normal volatility. In an hour we could be at 90 or 320? What can you do?
krlbrgmn: 25% can be considered a flash crash, or not?
Vexual: big yuan influx will enjoy this type of risky trading in the coming 12 months
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: Not in Bitcoin really.
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: It is too late to blame Pirateat40 so blame LabCoin
mircea_popescu: yeah, kinda par for the course here. you certainly can't say "crash" if the price isn't at day lows.
krlbrgmn: oh well, the fuckers got me into a bear trap
krlbrgmn: sold @190
krlbrgmn: is it a wise thing to buy back in?
mircea_popescu: in general it's a good idea to set a long term strategy and follow that.
mircea_popescu: the stories you hear about "ordinary citizens just like you" daytrading for a profit are mostly fake.
krlbrgmn: but when you see a 25% decrease in the price, it's hard to keep calm
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: Maybe buy back in at $187.50? Everyone has to price and stratagem on their own.
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: Have you tried alaprazolam?
mircea_popescu: well, why is it hard ? that's why the long term strategy is a long term strategy.
Vexual: im audi gents. keep it real
BingoBoingo: krlbrgmn: I hear lorezapam works wonders too.
krlbrgmn: mircea_popescu and what long term strategy would sound good to you?
mircea_popescu: well, that's something you'd have to come up with on your own.
mircea_popescu: you know your own circumstance, make some long term predictions and split your effort accordingly.
mircea_popescu: i still have coins i bought at 3.x for that matter.
krlbrgmn: don't you day trade?
mircea_popescu: and you know, a sucker is me for not having sold out at 250 or w/e.
krlbrgmn: I guess I'm learning this the hard way :(
mircea_popescu: so how many btc did you sell at 190 ?
BingoBoingo: Other than piddly shit to acquire coin I made two trades this spring, both at on the same day.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
jurov: um, i last daytraded on mtgox maybe year ago. there are more interesting things (such as attempts to tape paint s.nsa)
kakobrekla: i just trade eurusd with btc.
BingoBoingo: Well, I had the sell order sitting there for a nearly a month, but Uppity Tortilla seemed to push it though. Once I have the email it sold I placed the buy and withdrew. I more gamble than trade though.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8265 @ 0.00082937 = 6.8547 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 198.75078, Best ask: 198.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08922, Last trade: 198.84000, 24 hour volume: 98613.04119587, 24 hour low: 175.30001, 24 hour high: 233.40000, 24 hour vwap: 206.26809
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5895 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.00224993 = 0.4095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21926 @ 0.00082871 = 18.1703 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00224993 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00083539 = 9.2728 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.00224994 = 1.1992 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999895 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00083316 = 4.4157 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 265723 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 388 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 19 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 380342143.25 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.06117
pankkake: ;;market sell 36000
gribble: A market order to sell 36000 bitcoins right now would net 5634549.7838 USD and would take the last price down to 125.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 156.5153 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 214.4859 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00550001 = 0.143 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 341 @ 0.00550001 = 1.8755 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00083272 = 0.8327 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3039 @ 0.00200033 = 6.079 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 2000 @ 0.000234 = 0.468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0008304 = 7.4736 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00083272 = 10.0343 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
KRS1: damnit! stupid sleep. Missed out on a great buying opportunity last night.
KRS1: need a good btc price/volume alarm anyone know of a reliable one?
VanCleef: i'll call your mobile till you wake up
KRS1: ok I'll pm you later to give you the limits/bounds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 164 @ 0.00550001 = 0.902 BTC [+]
ozbot: Whats happening at bitstamp? Shootup, order book is not fullfilling. Other exchanges still low : Bit
jurov: cans with a string buckling?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 5056 @ 0.0055 = 27.808 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1350 @ 0.0008304 = 1.121 BTC [-]
ozbot: A Bubble for our Toil and Trouble | Yago tries to write these thoughts.
jurov: "Bitcoin has broken out of its crazy Libertarian mold, and has started to appeal to other sorts of crazies" hahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2663 @ 0.00549996 = 14.6464 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.56 = 5.6 BTC [-]
VanCleef: industry full of grubs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00500001 = 1.25 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999895 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00015 = 0.75 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.1214044 = 2.4281 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 954 @ 0.00051968 = 0.4958 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 234 @ 0.00557694 = 1.305 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 225 @ 0.00557699 = 1.2548 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 274 @ 0.00557699 = 1.5281 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00557699 = 1.7679 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00082907 = 6.9642 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00082907 = 4.4355 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00083152 = 4.0969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082879 = 3.4809 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00224992 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00082857 = 7.2914 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12121212 = 0.2424 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.13318435 = 1.1987 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6568 @ 0.00082784 = 5.4373 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5178 @ 0.00082863 = 4.2906 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00082863 = 7.2919 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00505 = 0.3889 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.005 = 0.185 BTC [-]
nubbins`: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> ;;ticker
deadweasel: --ticker
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.0008288 = 20.6786 BTC [+] {2}
skinnkavaj: Bitcoin down, Litecoin UP
skinnkavaj: pankkake: you ready for november?
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu?
pankkake: that's why you sold litecoins earlier and bought at the bottom then?
pankkake: I'm not really seeing what you're saying though
pankkake: volume is pretty low
skinnkavaj: one million LTC switching hands yesterday
pankkake: oh so recovery is 0.01 average. noted
KRS-: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 570 @ 0.00507592 = 2.8933 BTC [-] {7}
jborkl: wtf, is that real.. lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00520001 = 2.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6827 @ 0.00082945 = 5.6627 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00498001 = 0.3835 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00497999 = 0.996 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00498 = 0.3835 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: and dmc is now under 3000.
Diablo-D3: I wonder why its taking so long for people to trade their shares in
kakobrekla: that thing still exists?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: yes
kakobrekla: too bad you turned down mpex eh
Diablo-D3: not really
Diablo-D3: mpex is next on the SEC's list
bob____: i hear the sec has a lot of pull in romania
Diablo-D3: bob____: just like every other government agency, the SEC thinks it can control other countries
pankkake: it can
pankkake: but it can't control the internets
Diablo-D3: it can and does
bob____: yeah, but they've only managed to crap on gox's us accounts, and btct (based in US, no?). so not sure what it could do to mpex
Diablo-D3: pankkake: yes, but mp's identity is known
Diablo-D3: bob____: as long as he allows americans and american companies to list
Diablo-D3: he is under SEC jurisdiction
pankkake: well, he'll "sell" mpex to someone else when he's in prison
Diablo-D3: and romania is a member of the european union
Diablo-D3: so hes kinda fucked
bob____: idk. the poker/gambling websites that allowed americans only got in trouble through: 1) the banks or 2) when the founders entered the US
Diablo-D3: bob____: yes because they wernt worth extraditing
bob____: but mp is?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 323 @ 0.00114799 = 0.3708 BTC [+] {2}
bob____: mpex is awesome and all, but they were bigger
Diablo-D3: yes because bitcoin is only used by drug lords
bob____: ah
bob____: hm
pankkake: move mpex to somalia
pankkake: done
Diablo-D3: pankkake: that would only improve somalia, really
Diablo-D3: a stable globally recognized currency would do wonders for them
bob____: idk.. the fucking pirate bay is still up
bob____: i don't buy it. mp > sec.
pankkake: The Somaliland shilling is the official currency of Somaliland, a self-declared republic that is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia.[5] The currency is not recognized as legal tender by the international community, and it currently has no official exchange rate.
pankkake: I see an exchange opportunity!
bob____: hell, isn't wikileaks still up?
bob____: us isn't quite omnipotent
pankkake: bob____: indeed. you can't stop the internet
pankkake: and they can't cut finances anymore
pankkake: which was the big angle of attack against torrent sites I used
pankkake: now most of them have bitcoin options, some as the default donation option
Diablo-D3: bob____: wikileaks is "up"
pankkake: wikileaks has billions of mirrors
Diablo-D3: in the sense that one of the greatest leakers of the past decade is in prison, another is hiding in russia, and the guy that runs wikileaks is hiding in an embassy
bob____: yes, but, the website is till up! so mpex will be ok :)
pankkake: mp will outrun them with his horse
bob____: heh
nubbins`: <bob____> idk.. the fucking pirate bay is still up
pankkake: tpb is less and less relevant but it seems it is kept up just to stick it to the man
skinnkavaj: pankkake
skinnkavaj: Even better investment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8535 @ 0.00082738 = 7.0617 BTC [-]
skinnkavaj: Throw your LTC here
ozbot: dicenow
pankkake: why not throw bitcoins there?
skinnkavaj: pankkake: LTC is the most popular played
skinnkavaj: Not even worth investing with BTC there, too low volume
benkay: litecoin - it's for gamblers!
pankkake: does that compensate the loss of value (or risk of) of litecoins, compared to putting them into another of the many dice sites?
pankkake: but I would agree that there is no reason to have litecoins and not invest them someplace. that's what I did
skinnkavaj: pankkake: This one you can choose investment strategy and how much you RISK each bet. I have an investment that has made 90% profit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00500017 = 0.145 BTC [-] {2}
skinnkavaj: pankkake is speechless again
deadweasel: please don't use investment and betting in the same sentence.
bob____: hopefully he means investing on the house side
deadweasel: god i hope so
pankkake: but this has nothing to do with litecoin. nor any of your investment prowess, this profit being a random occurence
deadweasel: teh maffs!
pankkake: yes, the litecoin house shows a 113% profit for now
pankkake: it is very very lucky
pankkake: hm is it a percentage or absolute?
pankkake: skinnkavaj: did you invest or other dice sites?
pankkake: and what edge did you chose?
skinnkavaj: pankkake: stop asking me go look on the site yourself, you can choose kelly
pankkake: it looks like you can chose the edge, not the max bet. I hope you understand how dice sites work too
skinnkavaj: pankkake: please stop writing, i made the 90% profit by investing in 10x kelly
pankkake: so you're just trying to show you made up for your losses? I don't really see the point in claiming profits
kakobrekla: skinnkavaj keep it up youll be the new WB in a few weeks
pankkake: Warner Bros?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00224991 = 0.1125 BTC [-]
pankkake: there was this guy, fractal, who taunted people here too
kakobrekla: yes he is notorious for his investments ?
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
skinnkavaj: breaking news btc-e chat taken over by trolls
pankkake: I for one would not be glad if you lost more money skinnkavaj
pankkake: because I am a nice person deep down
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.0050074 = 0.5408 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 265792 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 319 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 11 hours, 26 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 381202887.074 | Estimated Percent Change: 42.38266
nubbins`: deep down
ozbot: Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE (Wired UK)
jcpham: gtfo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00082577 = 3.7573 BTC [-]
pankkake: who said everyone should own a bitcoin, or something?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00486838 = 0.2921 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i think it was bill gates
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00082311 = 4.6917 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 158 @ 0.00224991 = 0.3555 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1004 @ 0.00500003 = 5.02 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i've really been getting into the melvins lately
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00082523 = 4.3325 BTC [+]
ozbot: Over Budget, Behind Schedule: What's Up With Gaming's Biggest Kickstarters? | Game|Life | Wired.com
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: any comment as am board member? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg3404281#msg3404281
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.579 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.58759684 = 5.876 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6094 = 6.094 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6259 = 1.2518 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 176 @ 0.00537441 = 0.9459 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-: melvins?
nubbins`: yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0054987 = 0.2144 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62899999 = 1.887 BTC [+]
ozbot: Melvins Live at Amoeba - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: dexX7, all official statements about AM updates are made by Friedcat. I have no personal comment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62899999 = 1.887 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.63318888 = 5.6987 BTC [+] {6}
pankkake: to the moons!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 187 @ 0.0051 = 0.9537 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.67514814 = 18.229 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00082523 = 1.1966 BTC [+]
dexX7: oh well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1083 @ 0.0051 = 5.5233 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70999995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00549998 = 0.297 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00549998 = 0.352 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0055694 = 0.4734 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 177 @ 0.00575592 = 1.0188 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00601493 = 4.2105 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.739 = 10.346 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00705549 = 0.1411 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 280 @ 0.0040244 = 1.1268 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 498 @ 0.00619999 = 3.0876 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7489 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00643814 = 0.6245 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.79090364 = 21.3544 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 558 @ 0.00670355 = 3.7406 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 388 @ 0.00691 = 2.6811 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.795 = 7.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00082757 = 7.8619 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.79999998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 60 @ 0.795 = 47.7 BTC [-]
bob____: i guess everybody liked the chinese video
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1605 @ 0.00702062 = 11.2681 BTC [+] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00747998 = 1.0921 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 330 @ 0.00688484 = 2.272 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0073999 = 0.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7944 = 2.3832 BTC [-]
ozbot: The Daily Dot - Tor and the rise of anonymity networks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.79813332 = 11.972 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.795 = 1.59 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0072 = 0.1584 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 716 @ 0.00200735 = 1.4373 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00200001 = 0.958 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00198847 = 0.1133 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00192081 = 0.1575 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE (Wired UK)
nubbins`: "reflects"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00716187 = 0.974 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00728999 = 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0075725 = 0.2726 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00770241 = 0.9551 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0078 = 0.351 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1059 @ 0.0019213 = 2.0347 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 748 @ 0.00191455 = 1.4321 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 298 @ 0.00778117 = 2.3188 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00788757 = 0.2603 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 62 @ 0.79999998 = 49.6 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00788999 = 1.1046 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00799629 = 0.2159 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8190069 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.008 = 0.48 BTC [+]
bob____: breaking news: chinese girl makes video about her cat and AM shoots up 60%!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.85471624 = 5.983 BTC [+] {3}
saulimus: hmm. how about: girl chops up cat and fries it? .... fried cat
saulimus: LOLLLL
pankkake: well, this show how much people are eager for news
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.869 = 4.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00810799 = 1.0135 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.915 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 488 @ 0.00854713 = 4.171 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 188 @ 0.00869 = 1.6337 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.915 = 7.32 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 312 @ 0.00869 = 2.7113 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [+]
the20year: the SEC's new crowdfunding rules could be quite interesting for exchanges and US customers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.96799999 = 8.712 BTC [+] {2}
skinnkavaj: WTF LTC
skinnkavaj: Stop moving so fast
dexX7: no no
dexX7: that's good
dexX7: hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00879 = 0.2549 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3957 @ 0.0008281 = 3.2768 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction 011c3ab10f8fcf815fe19ad1f44be47da372654c861a5b338dcb35aa4d094573
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.008789 = 0.1934 BTC [-]
pankkake: I don't understand what is happening to that 50 BTC
pankkake: well it just looks like they're making small transactactions to… who knows
pankkake: ;;market sell 36000
gribble: A market order to sell 36000 bitcoins right now would net 6002361.4522 USD and would take the last price down to 140.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 166.7323 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
kakobrekla: would be interesting if they would dump it at once
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00870304 = 1.2706 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: pankkake: i think that's the point
nubbins`: that's a common thing to see with huge balances, i'm more surprised the other 35k BTC are sitting still
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13626 @ 0.00082857 = 11.2901 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.95 = 3.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.965 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.95 = 4.75 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i wonder how many people are rebuying coins at a loss to scoop up AM shares
BigBitz: why would anyone want to scoop them up currently?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.008788 = 0.4394 BTC [-]
Vp7771: positive rumor
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
Vp7771: comment from realdos
BigBitz: hmm.
BigBitz: interesting.
dexX7: it has several pages, must be legit
mircea_popescu: o look, azn ppl
Vp7771: and they look happy
Vp7771: can only mean one thing
BigBitz: PROFIT?
Vp7771: for sure
Kleeck_: My summary of the thread: FAT CHINESE NERDS. Thank you for reading.
mircea_popescu: what's am by now, 1% of nethash ? under that ?
Kleeck_: Prob.
Kleeck_: Under.
mircea_popescu: well it's good that they're keeping to their promise not to 50% the network.
Kleeck_: ROFL
Kleeck_: yeah.
Kleeck_: That was a close one!
mircea_popescu: in fairness for about three weeks it was.
mircea_popescu: long long ago on a planet far far away, known only as "this spring"
dexX7: selling/franchising mining hardware is probably more profitable than deploying the miners
mircea_popescu: selling coffee brewed from miner waste heat is probably more profitable than deploying the miners too.
Vp7771: dexX7 what site is this from:
Vp7771: i think i used to use it but can't find it again
dexX7: www.coinflow.co
Vp7771: oh that's it. thanks man
dexX7: np
nubbins`: you could probably roast coffee with some of those gpu rigs
ozbot: You are Bad at Entropy. : programming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00082945 = 8.7092 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.9553125 = 15.285 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0085 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.96137499 = 7.691 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.9586 = 4.793 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00843478 = 1.94 BTC [-] {2}
dub: looks suspiciously like the floor of the 'datacenter' is made of dirt
nubbins`: rough concrete maybe
jurov: "baked cat mine field trips" google translate makes my day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0084999 = 0.2125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.9687998 = 4.844 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: maybe i can get another "grilled cat identity" t-shirt group buy on the go
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.0084999 = 0.1105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.96899999 BTC [+]
dexX7: from the labcoin chan: <yesminister> let's do sam noi tshirts!
nubbins`: haha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18350 @ 0.00015 = 2.7525 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.96831999 = 4.8416 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: but I only want black :/
dub: why the range of sizes?
dub: clearly anyone wearign that is goign to be pushign 500lb
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0078 = 0.195 BTC [-]
nubbins`: pankkake: i do have a lot of black shirts
nubbins`: dub: there's a reason why I have no XXL left
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00728235 = 0.619 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0078 = 0.156 BTC [-]
IneedBRAINS: have you guys tried the new dice game? really nice UI ~ https://ice-dice.com/en?i=10487
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.95 = 6.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078 = 0.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.96884 = 4.8442 BTC [+] {4}
skinnkavaj: 588 BTC buy order on BTC/LTC Smash it! We are going to the moon over here!
nubbins`: what the fuck is up with you people and the moon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00839215 = 0.856 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9689 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.96899333 = 2.907 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.0078 = 0.4446 BTC [-] {2}
dub: I always assumed it was a favorite catch call of one of those weird US TV finance shows where a guy screams at the camera
dub: or from bruce wagners show
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 172 @ 0.0078 = 1.3416 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00083025 = 2.5323 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00846 = 0.8122 BTC [+]
mike_c: !jd
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 5711 BTC profit, 59.0k BTC invested, 200.51 mio bets, 4.26 mio BTC wagered
mircea_popescu: o nm. 4.2mn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00845 = 0.4225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.96899997 = 1.938 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00082763 = 5.2141 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.89000001 = 1.78 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00820285 = 0.1148 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 750 @ 0.00845266 = 6.3395 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.0084854 = 1.8244 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.00859987 = 3.4829 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88000001 = 1.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.955 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00876 = 0.1314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00877 = 1.754 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95 = 1.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00879087 = 0.8 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.008811 = 0.1234 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00889994 = 0.8455 BTC [+] {2}
ChaangNoi: zup ya pervz ya
ChaangNoi: so AM has a jump, why?
KRS1: hey ChaangNoi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.0089 = 0.1424 BTC [+]
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.0089 = 0.9434 BTC [+]
KRS1: any chance the chinese government will sieze everyhing chinese BTC and the difficulty will drop?
dexX7: lol
dexX7: no ;)
mircea_popescu: if indeed he delivers something like 500th in two weeks am is going back to a decent 10-15% then
KRS1: oh yeah, forgot..they prefer violating human rights.
mircea_popescu: cheap mining isn't a human right.
KRS1: thus the mining shall continue
ChaangNoi: well i still hold some AM. this last wednesdays divs were shockingly low
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.91 = 3.64 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: dexX7: some people have no imagionation:
asciilifeform: an 'exahash' looks rather different
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2296 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: say 100,000,000 consumer webcams with a little strange mixed into the network asic.
asciilifeform: happily unwrapped on christmas day and plugged in by unsuspecting (and satisfied) people.
dexX7: hehe ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88750056 = 1.775 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: *imagination
asciilifeform: it could also look like a 1m by 1m cube of gallium arsenide optical logic, bathed in liquid He
asciilifeform: but the webcams are cheaper.
asciilifeform: it could also look like a beefy off-the-shelf intel box running a successful version of 'sat-coin.'
nubbins`: "5. FC didn't sell his AM stocks at the peak of its price. When asked in the interview why he didn't cash out, he responded that if he sold out the shares, people who bought them would make him work for them. He would like to only work for himself."
nubbins`: what a quote
dexX7: hehe yeah, i wonder when bitcoin or bitcoin mining will act as innovation driver
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 142 @ 0.00801143 = 1.1376 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00801003 = 0.2083 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "The Hoover Dam produces 2000 MW"
mircea_popescu: people really don't understand what dams are or how they work, do they
dub: that guy is completely retarded
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1917 BTC [+]
ChaangNoi: i think he means the hoover dam as in the complex, if you did not know they produce hydro electric powere there. saw it myself 2 weeks ago.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0088891 = 0.9956 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00888899 = 0.5867 BTC [-]
ozbot: Outkast - SpottieOttieDopaliscious - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.94986666 = 2.8496 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00888998 = 0.3023 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00082763 = 5.0485 BTC [-]
KRS1: good song
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