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← 2013-10-24 | 2013-10-26 → ↓
nubbins`: huh, bit of a price cut on those casascius silver/gold coins
nubbins`: they look slick
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.90444827 = 22.6112 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.89335714 = 12.507 BTC [-] {4}
ChaangNoi: i ordered a roll
ChaangNoi: i like how they are a bit different from my older gold B silver casa coins
ChaangNoi: anyone happen to have a first day funded brass 1 btc casas coin?
nubbins`: i wish
nubbins`: have you opened your roll of special 0.5 silvers yet? ;)
nubbins`: oh! i was also wondering if your iceberg & whale coins showed up after
ChaangNoi: i did get the whale coins, i was too late or something for the icebergs
ChaangNoi: i got my 1 silvers, the .5 silver and the .1 silver, now just waiting for the gold silvers but they have been shipped
ChaangNoi: too many damn rolls and i ahve not opened any of them
nubbins`: the gold/silver ones are something like 6 BTC cheaper per roll
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00888998 = 0.2845 BTC [+]
ChaangNoi: well,they are the only ones for sale now
ChaangNoi: i think he only has 700 of the gold ones
ChaangNoi: not sure on the others
ChaangNoi: iv lost track, too busy and i just keep buying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00888998 = 0.1333 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.95446627 = 23.8617 BTC [+] {8}
nubbins`: yeah, 700
nubbins`: sorry, i'd be talking to you about those certs here but it requires a lot of "hmm"ing and scribbling of numbers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.96999 = 5.8199 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00840001 = 0.5628 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00823636 = 0.3624 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00082755 = 1.1586 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: time for sleep
ChaangNoi: i was not even here lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00825001 = 0.3053 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.0086 = 1.118 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00864102 = 0.2938 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.00888997 = 0.1156 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95999999 = 2.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 215 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2468 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00888997 = 0.8445 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00888997 = 0.889 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0087 = 0.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00862515 = 1.3024 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.00828104 = 0.9523 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00869997 = 0.2001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.95999999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00869998 = 0.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.95999999 = 1.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.0512 = 0.4608 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00082723 = 3.2676 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.92109166 = 11.0531 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.87185599 = 34.8742 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1110 @ 0.00802244 = 8.9049 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.008 = 1.248 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8515 = 1.703 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.85013333 = 12.752 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.85 = 5.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00795 = 0.795 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 561 @ 0.00791742 = 4.4417 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007916 = 0.7916 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.007916 = 0.3483 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.007916 = 2.3748 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84899999 = 1.698 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.84899999 = 16.131 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84999999 = 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.80299999 = 5.621 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.8075 = 4.845 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00015725 = 0.3931 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00799 = 0.1438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1343 BTC [+] {2}
b0n1: someone here trading giftcards in larger amounts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00799 = 0.2797 BTC [+]
afqe212: 뭐하니 얘들아
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81000001 = 1.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.86 = 1.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.865 = 1.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00799 = 0.5673 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00013276 = 1.3276 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: CoinMD - medical consultations and advice for Bitcoin
dub: oh dear
dub: obitgyn?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.007915 = 0.7915 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00781011 = 0.3905 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082909 = 3.4822 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87600998 = 1.752 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 565 @ 0.00114799 = 0.6486 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00787 = 0.3778 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00787 = 0.4014 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00787 = 0.1731 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: anyone heard of peercover?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00209361 = 1.0468 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0078194 = 0.7819 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.87589999 = 1.7518 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.0020998 = 0.4431 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.87590845 = 11.3868 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 358 @ 0.00798997 = 2.8604 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 442 @ 0.00859483 = 3.7989 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0746 = 0.373 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00859998 = 0.3956 BTC [+]
KRS1: yawn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00805025 = 0.2979 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00083038 = 5.2314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1017 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: this been discussed? https://peercover.com
kleeck: Interesting.
mircea_popescu: blank page.
mircea_popescu: lots of js ?
kakobrekla: i think this wants to be btcjam for ripple
kakobrekla: or am i missing something
kakobrekla: doesnt work in O.
mircea_popescu: btcjam for ripple. the internet is getting meta.
kakobrekla: well without registering i dunno, i see 'facebook, linkedin and dwolla' also 'ripple'
kakobrekla: and 'trust'
kakobrekla: how to put these together, i dunno.
kakobrekla: no wait this is some insurance thing?
kleeck: "Peercover is the first distributed peer coverage service by the people for the people. The team at Peercover believes in economic self sustainability, pragmatism, simplicity, and above all security. Globally positioned, Peercover works to protect people of all creeds and credos. Get covered with people you trust, get covered with Peercover."
mircea_popescu: best in class.
mircea_popescu: so usagi lives, "decentralised".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082819 = 3.3128 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.889999 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: can someone send a pm on retardtalk for me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00781137 = 4.265 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.889999 = 3.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00189001 = 0.1909 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: write a script, make 500k accounts, age them and take over.
mircea_popescu: bitcointalk being replaced with markov chain generated noise might be an improvement.
kakobrekla: 10 years ago id do that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00799999 = 0.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0079 = 0.3318 BTC [-]
skinnkavaj: So LTC up again
skinnkavaj: Nice hedge against a falling BTC price
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00789999 = 0.4582 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what's ltc ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1150 @ 0.00789855 = 9.0833 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00818181 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: large tits collider
pankkake: now that's something I want to own
b0n1: someone interested here for buying larger amounts in gift cards for bitcoins cheaper than their actual value?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00082935 = 0.1659 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.898 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.898 = 8.082 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.89999999 = 5.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00221998 = 0.4262 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00825 = 0.1238 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00829954 = 0.9129 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1327 @ 0.00775244 = 10.2875 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.75931249 = 18.2235 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00221997 = 0.2509 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0011303 = 0.5652 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 592 @ 0.00203333 = 1.2037 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 479 @ 0.00202 = 0.9676 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00201999 = 0.3434 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.79187 = 2.3756 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00221216 = 0.907 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Bitcoin Money
kakobrekla: Yesterday the acting president of CVM, the securities regulator for Brazil, signed a decision ordering the administrator of “Grupo de Investimento Bitcoin” to suspend what the regulator describes as an investment fund.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00221997 = 0.222 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00221998 = 2.22 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: CVM recognizing btc as currency cause borred.
kakobrekla: hm that was ike in 2012
kakobrekla: where dafuck do you live kako
mircea_popescu: i wasn't going to say anything.
nubbins`: <kakobrekla> doesnt work in O.
nubbins`: opera?!
nubbins`: you're literally the second person i've ever met who uses it
nubbins`: and i spent 5 years working as a web dev
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00789997 = 0.9243 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: nubbins` theres like 5 people on this chan using it
nubbins`: imagine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00221997 = 0.1465 BTC [-]
nubbins`: anyway, uh. BITCOIN DOWN! should i put all my money in a blender and turn it on?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00214817 = 0.8421 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I put it all in Chinacoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0021915 = 0.4602 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: you mean you didn't follow the advice from that guy who's always bleating about ltc?
pankkake: some crazy movements though, if somehow you can predict them
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.69053, Best ask: 181.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00947, Last trade: 181.69053, 24 hour volume: 33649.20066128, 24 hour low: 181.14902, 24 hour high: 217.90003, 24 hour vwap: 197.78800
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah. make it a 3d model.
pankkake: if you use opera you hate freedom btw
pankkake: closed source
nubbins`: lame
nubbins`: you guys ever try the W3C's browser, Amaya?
kakobrekla: did you go through the source of your browser ?
pankkake: I tried it a few years ago, can't say it was practical to use
kakobrekla: well then
kakobrekla: what good does it do you
nubbins`: kakobrekla: just because i don't vote doesn't mean i don't want the right! ;)
kakobrekla: its all an illusion
pankkake: I'd give up that right for 1 LTC. anyway I didn't read the whole linux kernel source either
pankkake: nor bitcoin's
kakobrekla: so you still trust X to do the job for you
pankkake: I trust many people in the present and future
kakobrekla: yes elephants have 4 legs usually
pankkake: by that I mean many people are currently doing it and will do it. I trust the "enough eyeballs"
nubbins`: potential logical fallacy
kakobrekla: many people also code opera
pankkake: not that many, and they are part of the same team
pankkake: perhaps they're all reptilians
nubbins`: anyway, pankkake was making an argument for free software, not against the morals of the opera dev team
pankkake: true, I even forgot. kakobrekla you sneaky snail
kakobrekla: yes sure, but that doesnt change much, just switching who you trust to do your check for you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00222 = 0.182 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2344 @ 0.00082605 = 1.9363 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1156 @ 0.00082684 = 0.9558 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: since luke is doing some patches im more worried for bitcoind than opera.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 193 @ 0.00223994 = 0.4323 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2984 @ 0.00013 = 0.3879 BTC [+]
nubbins`: brb, going to pick up a vacuum table!
VanCleef: i get the feeling Father Peter use to touch him back in his alterboy days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1242 @ 0.00224451 = 2.7877 BTC [+] {4}
KRS-: That table must suck.
mircea_popescu: the problem with free software is that unless there's an omnipotent dictator a la torvalds,
mircea_popescu: the project goes to shirt
jurov: dunno.. firefox seems to go fine
asciilifeform: jurov: a very peculiar definition of 'going fine.'
jurov: can you elaborate?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.0020955 = 0.6035 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: jurov: firefox is a turd.
jurov: i see a breakage about equally often after kernel upgrade and after ff upgrade...don't see any huge difference
nubbins`: KRS-: i see what you did there ;p
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.80000001 = 1.6 BTC [+]
nubbins`: doing a zine workshop tonight with 18 youths, should be nice and tangly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88958799 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.88958799 = 1.7792 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 97 @ 0.0011303 = 0.1096 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00789999 = 0.5451 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: in fact, french fries were invented in belgium
nubbins`: (I can recall a French embassy stating this fact when asked for their opinion on "freedom fries")
mircea_popescu: the point is contentious.
mircea_popescu: belgium is france anyway :D
nubbins`: next you'll be saying canada is america!
nubbins`: wait, that's not funny
mike_c: ah
mike_c: much cooler
nubbins`: the great thing about self-publishing is that you can be as obscene as you want, and nobody cares
mircea_popescu: sure htey do.
nubbins`: actually, maybe "nobody will stop you" is closer to the truth
nubbins`: although, the newspaper did a story on us a while back, and i sent them over some images to accompany the article. they published a full-page image of a creature with a dick and balls for a nose.
pankkake: French people agree that fries are a Belgium thing
nubbins`: so, y'know, life's full of surprises
pankkake: though true Belgian fries are quite something compared to common fries
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9704 @ 0.0001492 = 1.4478 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3534 @ 0.00015 = 0.5301 BTC [+]
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: can't be bothered to rotate it
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 184.00000, Best ask: 184.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 36305.25866717, 24 hour low: 176.60399, 24 hour high: 215.99985, 24 hour vwap: 194.28240
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 182.50001, vol: 36316.43058917 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 175.04, vol: 33227.73049279 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 164.01, vol: 31857.02474 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 177.49, vol: 10766.02396314 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 170.74, vol: 1075.318944 | Volume-weighted last average: 174.521562617
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.800149 = 4.8009 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: mpex options expired 16 hours ago, yes? do the 'T' and 'N' options roll over after the mpoe monthly statement is issued?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.8 = 8.8 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-: no
mike_c: ok.. they roll over in random()*36 hours?
ozbot: After seven years in jail, Canada’s ‘Man With No Name’ may be ready to reveal true identity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.0745 = 0.447 BTC [-]
deadweasel: mike_c: N's turn into T's, T's are expired.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0075091 = 0.3755 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.007509 = 0.3755 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mike_c not in random, at midnight gmt
mircea_popescu: (bout 7 hours or so)
mike_c: oh, i thought expiration was midnight Thursday before the last friday. not sure where i read that. thanks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082471 = 3.2988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00082471 = 0.6185 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00235983 = 0.472 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: FBI Says It's Seized $28.5 Million In Bitcoins From Ross Ulbricht, Alleged Owner Of Silk Road - Forb
mircea_popescu: better than mining
dexX7: haha yea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3393 BTC [+]
dexX7: that's 180k confiscated coins now, if i'm not mistaken
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00788994 = 0.1105 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: An FBI official tells me that the bureau has located and seized a collection of 144,000 bitcoins, the largest seizure of that cryptocurrency ever, worth close to $28.5 million at current exchange rates. It believes that the stash belonged to Ross Ulbricht
mircea_popescu: ahem. so basically all future bitcoin incvome of the us will be reported as allegedly confiscated from this guy ?
mircea_popescu: nice plan.
dexX7: it probably more like "we found the privkey on his machine, so it's his drug money"
VanCleef: invest in lube
VanCleef: we're all going to need it for jail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00788994 = 0.3472 BTC [+]
dexX7: the pattern is strange.. "take a wallet with > 3k coins, send 324 to 'dpr seized wallet', and repeat this step with the change"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.785 = 3.14 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1697 @ 0.00209541 = 3.5559 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00209024 = 1.0974 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.75002499 = 3.0001 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.79768332 = 4.7861 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 21000 @ 0.00014022 = 2.9446 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.00788995 = 0.5839 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.72797965 = 42.9508 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00750706 = 0.3453 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00236519 = 4.7304 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5944 @ 0.0001401 = 0.8328 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0078 = 0.351 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6250 @ 0.00238832 = 14.927 BTC [+] {5}
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lewicki: woah
lewicki: lots of buying on gox
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kleeck: ;;seen yeahyeah
gribble: yeahyeah was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <yeahyeah> yes
kleeck: RIP
benkay: is anyone charting assets listed on MPEx?
benkay: stretching back further than a month...
kleeck: Cashing out of Am dexX7 ?
dexX7: benkay: www.coinflow.co
dexX7: kleeck: yes. now that the shareprice will rise back to a few btc, i think now is a good time ;)
kleeck: :)
kleeck: Of course, of course...
dexX7: *may :x
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benkay: mircea_popescu: that last one only has a month of history.
mircea_popescu: i thought it also had a year option
benkay: i see none such
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benkay: coinflow has all data - thanks dexX7
dexX7: np
benkay: you may want to take down the link to btctc dexX7
dexX7: you mean in the thread? yeah.. i think i should replace the "this will be updated soon" announcement with the actual update rather sooner than later
benkay: talking about the link in the "research" dropdown
dexX7: ????
dexX7: ah
dexX7: nono
dexX7: i'm not the admin of coinflow
benkay: my mistake
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ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
ThickAsThieves: Official Neo Updates, Oct. 25, 2013
dexX7: YES :D:
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ozbot: Exclusive: Germany, Brazil Turn to U.N. to Restrain American Spies | The Cable
mircea_popescu: the un general assembly is going to be a riot.
mircea_popescu: obama takes off shoe, slams it against table ?
ozbot: DentiDrill - de eerste tandartsboor voor thuisgebruik - YouTube
jurov: mircea_popescu: citizen dentistry is here!
asciilifeform: nah, he'll just gather a group of flunkies in his office and shout 'nein nein nein nein nein!'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform NEVER AGAIN YOU HEAR!!! WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT~!!!!1
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah, those two really look like they can't afford the dentist visit
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jurov: that's homeschooling, don't need no filthy teachers or doctors
mircea_popescu: seems a broken analogy.
mircea_popescu: schooling would appear to be more akin cooking than dentistry.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 210 @ 0.00114799 = 0.2411 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here you go : "The worst case scenario I think would be having our European allies saying they will no longer share signals intelligence because of a concern that our SigInt is being derived from mechanisms that violate their privacy rules," said Ray Kimball, an army strategist with policy experience on European issues.
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jurov: Oh my! Oracle powered exchange.
jurov: and all dat swag...mircea, nobody will take you seriously now. you absolutely must announce microsoft sql server or google partnership.
mircea_popescu: i don't know anyone there i'd want to partner with tho.
mircea_popescu: sucks to be me i guess.
jurov: and don't forget MPEx-themed condoms
mircea_popescu: i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity.
pankkake: I want the pankkake-themed butt plug http://i.imgur.com/xOftDYp.png
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dub: can't read it because its layed out like the writer has sever ADHD
jurov: it's an African-American woman of biracial West Indian and Russian-Jewish heritage
dub: but at a glimpse, angry old man syndrome
mircea_popescu: dub what's that ?
dub: ADHD? its another name for asperges
mircea_popescu: angry old man syndrome.
pankkake: curmudgeon
mircea_popescu: "Americans don't want to study hard things. That's for foreigners. Fluff courses like these ethnic-studies timewasters—that's what people want. Unless a university is 'anchored' by a big department teaching real subjects—a medical or engineering school—the drift is all that way."
dub: it just looks like a 'in my day' rant
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, it's perhaps the best discussion of us academia i've read. ever.
mircea_popescu: it does strangely veer into how aids is all about faggots and evil black people in africa however.
mircea_popescu: weird how that works out.
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
mircea_popescu: dexX7 lmao someone in the fbi seriously sat over a console coding up a way to send bitcoins in 324 batches ?
dexX7: yes
dub: I suspect if they'd been teachign empathy and inclusivety in 1852 the world would be a lot nicer place
dub: inb4 blawgrage
mircea_popescu: dub yeah, i'd be speaking chinese and you lot wouldn't be on the internet.
dexX7: if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI
dub: dexX7: fucken chemtrails
dexX7: chemtrails are bad, yes :p
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i'm aware. i just thought it's marginally ridiculous to be that desperate to impress bitcoin forum/reddit.
dexX7: haha yea
mircea_popescu: but hey, whatever. sucks being a govt agency, if you do shit like this you're too eager, if you don't you're dumb, there's no way out.
dexX7: there is still the theory that the whole bust was manufactured
mircea_popescu: you mean presley's or hoffa's ?
dexX7: i'm looking for the post, sec
mircea_popescu: you can't be too young to have missed those references ?!
dexX7: :D
dexX7: i don't know this reference
mircea_popescu: well the theory is that elvis isn't really dead, just hiding, and then hoffa (teamsters union) was dissapeared mysteriously
mircea_popescu: so obliquely, "yeah, you'll never get rid of the theory X thing is manufactured"
dexX7: ah
kakobrekla: you should say tupac or something, for the kids
mircea_popescu: dr dre's dead
mircea_popescu: he's locked in ma basement
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mod6: mircea_popescu: haha
dexX7: well anyway. i don't find it, but it was on reddit. probably deleted by the mods, because it was true. :p
dexX7: jk
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mircea_popescu: lol it got deleted ?
mircea_popescu: i remember reading it yest or w/e. coupla pages of the usual fare.
ozbot: Home Page - CoinX Trading Platform
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dexX7: looks like another hobby project
ozbot: CoinX Is A New Bitcoin Exchange That Actually Takes Financial Compliance Seriously - Yahoo Finance
mircea_popescu: allthese pictures of handshakes...
dexX7: uh lol
kakobrekla: Operating out of Atlanta, Ga., CoinX is all about turning conventional money into the anonymous digital currency called Bitcoin, and Bitcoin into conventional money. It's also the first to actually take financial compliance seriously.
kakobrekla: CoinX and the NYSE are so closely linked that the NYSE logo appears on some CoinX marketing.
mircea_popescu: uh what ?
mircea_popescu: Megan is the founder and CEO of a successful Internet security and networking company that provides service to a number of Fortune 1000 companies.
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kakobrekla: i think theres a reason why over 50% of fx trades is in europe
mircea_popescu: who apparently had some startup in atlanta called seegee
ozbot: Testimonial - Megan Burton of CoinX - YouTube
ozbot: IT Management Team - SeeGee Technologies
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mircea_popescu: so okay, burned through the funding, moved over to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the retarded vcs (defined as any vc who's not been talking to me, no matter what their mommy told them about how smart they are) realise that the new mo of the start-up scamscene is, get a "seed round", turn it to bitcoin, walk away with the wallet a year later.
kakobrekla: >>"no doesnt mean no, means not right now"
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kakobrekla: >CoinX is licensed in more than half of US states.
kakobrekla: that beats kraken?
mircea_popescu: until they show proof to these claims, btcjam is licensed on the pacific ocean floor.
mircea_popescu: and tux has a license from a kappa he once met on a river bank.
jurov: we have somalian license
dexX7: kakobrekla: was it you who "tested" btc.cx? what was your conclusion?
dexX7: www.btc.sx
kakobrekla: very poorly coded
pankkake: .sx and not related to sex :/
jurov: .sux
dexX7: xD
kakobrekla: but hey im a sladerous soul
kakobrekla: so dont listen to me.
jurov: my slovenly slanderous somalian
jurov: *slovenly slanderous somalian soul
pankkake: somali*
jurov: oh sry
kakobrekla: twice as worse as the SS
mircea_popescu: <jurov> my slovenly slanderous somalian <<< ahaha best in class.
ThickAsThieves: <jurov> Oh my! Oracle powered exchange. <<< if you're referring to Neo, there is no Oracle-powered exchange or such. Oracle is for Neo and Bee's previously announced business services. To my knowledge, they are merely exploring the idea of doing the stock exchange down the road, and have no software plans in that regard.
kakobrekla: yeah jurov whats up with the slander
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know, it's a little strange you're doing their announcements for them. you're starting like a pr practice or what is it ?
jurov: what slander? towards oracle? cuz i was a DBA.
mircea_popescu: you actually signing off on them, if they fail to deliver whatever people get to pursue you ?
ThickAsThieves: more like transfer agent / asset manager
mircea_popescu: it'd prolly be a good idea to clearly specify the relationship, preferably by a published contract. otherwise you'll have trouble managing expectations down the road.
ThickAsThieves: all claims are those of Neo's, not TATI
jurov: in any case i doubt they'll choose something other for exchange, having the expertise in-house
ThickAsThieves: this relationship is explained in the prospectus
ThickAsThieves: whether sufficient, i cant say
mircea_popescu: well, the fact remains most people that managed to ruin their reputation to date did so by agreeing to front for some third party new to btc that then went tits up.
jurov: ThickAsThieves: no hard feelings... aside for my personal oracle dba misadventure, i found it funny to publish photos of swag like there
ThickAsThieves: I understand. We went through several measures to manage that concern. Surely we could have done more, and we can never prevent outright failure of the business, but we do have a contract with Neo directly that defines our role as well.
jurov: wow, you got managerspeak bug :)
ThickAsThieves: i know nothing of Oracle vs this or that. Honestly my personal impression of Oracle is negative
mircea_popescu: just make sure people know about the definitions so you have what to fall back on in case.
mircea_popescu: financial management is contingency management after all.
dexX7: how many people are behind ThickAsThieves?
ThickAsThieves: Understood, contigency planning seems to be most of my time these days...
ThickAsThieves: haha, well ThickAsThieves is just a handle for me personally
mircea_popescu: jurov oracle is pretty good if you run a large non it corp, because you can just call them to fix your shit. it's non trivial to keep on staff it people able to handle large-ish server farms.
ThickAsThieves: TATI the entity is 2 partners and a few software guys
dexX7: ah okay :)
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the horrible obamacare website fail which probably everyone heard of, check out say this :
mircea_popescu: (romney's campaign fail)
jurov: so neo/bee won't have in house dba? oracle support, especially urgent one, is expensive
ThickAsThieves: i know their oracle setup wasnt cheap
jurov: i' not sure cyprus market can easily support sich
jurov: *such
mircea_popescu: maybe they already have it for something else and are just freeriding this on that.
mircea_popescu: inhouse dba is expensive too, for that matter.
jurov: no i understood it as they creating new team from scratch
mircea_popescu: ya well.
jurov: "Leon has a long-standing relationship with Danny Brewster, trust has been established over many years." or from scrotch
ThickAsThieves: they have a software consulting co that is handling it all i think, as a long term partner
ThickAsThieves: i met two of the guys
ThickAsThieves: they are hiring for the project, yes
jurov: whatever, i just want to say whole setup looks too excessive.
dexX7: is there already an eta for the exchange or is it more an idea?
ThickAsThieves: excessive to run a payment network and bank chains?
ThickAsThieves: i have no idea
ThickAsThieves: the exchange has no timeline
jurov: i mean the office space, furniture, oracle licenses, etc.
ThickAsThieves: i guess time will tell, i have no way to argue for or against the frigality
ThickAsThieves: frugality
ThickAsThieves: probably isnt one answer anyway
jurov: imho these are suitable for established bank, not as a first thing after they got investment
mircea_popescu: jurov lol they got one crampy conference room and some office space, give teh people a break.
ThickAsThieves: is your opinion from experience?
mircea_popescu: i've seen MUCH worse in ny and sf.
pankkake: my experience is that oracle sucks balls :p
pankkake: otherwise the thing looks ok. actually, I don't really undertand why they have to communicate about oracle
dexX7: mircea_popescu: you must have missed that http://i.imgur.com/U1lr806.png ;)
ThickAsThieves: the pictures do make the office space look smaller than it is
jurov: My experience is that in slovakia (similarly sized marked like cyprus) such spaces are few and far between.
ThickAsThieves: when i was there i was like oh, i thought it this was all much smaller
mircea_popescu: dexX7 that looks like a model :p
ThickAsThieves: the buidling exists
ThickAsThieves: and looks much like the rendering
ThickAsThieves: the signage isnt there yet
ThickAsThieves: they have the whole floor just above the sign
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah pictures usually do. i know the first time i went on a set and saw the actual tits i was hmm... didn't think they're actually that big.
ThickAsThieves: and then one rretail unit below it
dexX7: the whole complex is used by them or did they just rent a floor?
dexX7: ah okaxy
ThickAsThieves: the top floor is their design agency
mircea_popescu: dexX7 the building is made from the caps of pens they use in filing their taxes
ThickAsThieves: the software agency is considering an office bnearby as well
mircea_popescu: it rests atop an artificial island created out of employee icecream tubs.
ThickAsThieves: mktg agency, i should say, not design
ThickAsThieves: of course they do design as well
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nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity.
nubbins`: it's so rare that i see the word "fecund" used in conversation. great word
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nubbins`: <dexX7> if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI
nubbins`: lel, a thousand times lel
nubbins`: (just catching up here)
dexX7: haha yeah
nubbins`: zine workshop was a bit of a shit show
mircea_popescu: crazy bitches ?
nubbins`: the workshop itself was great, everybody loved printing. but then i got stuck in the room for a "discussion" between this youth group and their project supervisors
nubbins`: where basically everyone argued for an hour
nubbins`: about their responsibilities
mircea_popescu: kids there don't get beaten enough.
nubbins`: well, that was one of the points that came up
nubbins`: it's 9 youths from canada and 9 from ghana
mircea_popescu: o wow. interesting idea
nubbins`: yeah. 3 months here, 3 months there
nubbins`: anyway, the issue arose because the ghanaians don't feel comfortable questioning "authority" figures, and the supervisors were explaining that here in canada if you don't understand why you're doing something, you ask, because you're trying to be a part of our culture
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nubbins`: then the point was raised that the canadians will also probably end up feeling uncomfortable in ghana because children are caned there
nubbins`: and the canadians were all "o"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha precious
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mircea_popescu: somehow we must get this perfect middle where if you don't understand you ask but if you think you know better you stfu or get caned.
mircea_popescu: i'd totally move to that ghanada.
mircea_popescu: heck, even pay taxes.
nubbins`: funny, "ghanada" is exactly what's written on the covers of the zines
nubbins`: you sure you're not a youth volunteer?
mircea_popescu: i'm just the nsa, that's all.
monkey`: that trashbag mircea popescu selling a new pump and dump?
kakobrekla: dis comming from labcoin investor?
monkey`: fuck is this new garbage? what happend to his little online RPG
mircea_popescu: Jun 22 23:49:41 <ThickAsThieves>[16:47] * bitcoin935 (3246306d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.70.48.109) Quit (Quit: <ThickAsThieves> sometimes i watch "the three stooges" to take notes.)
mircea_popescu: so i guess this is the that guy, what's his name
monkey`: shutup gypsy
mircea_popescu: what were you originally ? the guy with the cars/living standards/whatnot
monkey`: where is your online game?
mod6: money` = EB
mod6: *monkey`
nubbins`: oh! eskimo bob?
mod6: yah, long time no troll
asciilifeform: reptilia? is back?
monkey`: mircea_popescu: where is your online RPG?
mircea_popescu: ahaha, wait, the "fuck asics, i'll make a heat oven PMG" ?
mircea_popescu: monkey` i can't tell you cause you'll probably be mean to it.
monkey`: mircea right
monkey`: mircea is an adult? lol.
monkey`: fake name too
nubbins`: everybody's an adult but you ;)
dexX7: you sure are minimal.. http://minigame.bz/
mircea_popescu: dexX7 you know the all one california crazy soap ?
dexX7: which one? californication?
dexX7: i have no idea what you are talking about
dexX7: :/
ozbot: Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps All-One
dexX7: haha wtf
mircea_popescu: you should see the labels on those things
mircea_popescu: it's basically timecube on a fmcg label
nubbins`: i watched a documentary on that soap a while ago
nubbins`: weird people
mircea_popescu: 's even got sideways print to fill all available surfaces with rant
dexX7: interesting approach
mircea_popescu: dexX7's TIL counter is getting tickled today lol
nubbins`: hmm, EB has fallen oddly silent
mircea_popescu: i think it's the other guy honestly
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was his original handle
mircea_popescu: dub what's the guy's handle ?
benkay: tib?
mircea_popescu: tiberiusd
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benkay: tib was a class act
benkay: he even got you worked up a few times
benkay: point is this human is no tiberiusxiv
nubbins`: (HEH)
mircea_popescu: mebbeh so
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ dex there's a pic of the label there.
ozbot: We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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benkay: amazing soap
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Kleeck_: assbot is such a dick
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, it IS the best soap in the us
dexX7: lol
dexX7: indeed an amazing soap
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
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nubbins`: i'm outta here, it's friday night and i'm still sober
KRS1: do something about that player im about to
mircea_popescu: omfg they have it online. wow.
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benkay: y'all should see their new tirades about GMOs
Kleeck_: GMOs are the devil.
benkay: dat binary thinking
Kleeck_: dat assumption.
Kleeck_: :)
Kleeck_: "Agree with me or you're binary!"
Kleeck_: ROFL.
Kleeck_: The illusion of intelligence.
benkay: what ams devil?
benkay: what ams gmo?
benkay: i just want a little more subtlety in the conversation
KRS1: nothing wrong with gmo's..people just being paranoid.
benkay: f.ex: an organism identified to carry a certain set of genes bred with another organism some breeders would like to see that gene in
benkay: ams gmo?
KRS1: benkay: engineers reprogram for instance the dna of a tomato so they grow really big and feed more people..a really simple example
mircea_popescu: benkay do you understand the process behind gmo ?
benkay: (mircea_popescu: yes)
mircea_popescu: well so then that's the objection. has nothing to do with reproduction, it's just mashing things together
benkay: i'm quibbling about what it means for a thing to be a "genetically modified organism"
benkay: especially given what's coming out about the common nature of organic viral-driven lateral gene transfer
mircea_popescu: it means to have undergone this process where random bits of dna were thrown at a large number of cells just like it, in the hopes that something maybe catches.
dexX7: usually it's more like "we make the tomato resistant vs pesticide x" afaik
mircea_popescu: benkay i will trust a natural process, such as viral transfer, on the grounds that in millenia of practice it failed to make the world dangerous for me.
mircea_popescu: i will not trust an industrial process, such as gmo, on the grounds that in centuries of practice it NEVER failed to make the world dangerous for me.
dexX7: ^ +1
mircea_popescu: quite a gap there
benkay: on the same note, everything that increases agricultural output is a bad thing 'cause it leads rather quickly to more humans
asciilifeform: there's also the more prosaic fact that 99% of gmo work is for: pesticide resistance.
mircea_popescu: that's also a good point yeah.
asciilifeform: pesticide/herbicide
mircea_popescu: benkay i doubt there's much relation. famine is well resilient to dropping prices of grain
mircea_popescu: people will make ethanol out of corn or buy it to rot in govt "reserves" before feeding any starving idiots
asciilifeform: btw, when will the drug aficionados get around to the fabled 'THC tomato.' that'd be something to write home about.
benkay: why would you put those genes in a plant that fruits?
mircea_popescu: what plant doesn't fruit ?!
asciilifeform: camouflage.
benkay: actually now i'm curious what an unpollinated tomato would do
benkay: 'cause that's how one prevents a pot plant from going to seed
benkay: anyways there's decades of breeding in the pot plants that i find it hard to imagine getting around with gmos
mircea_popescu: you never know your luck
mircea_popescu: gmo is basically a game of vegas slots
mircea_popescu: except people have found a way to get investors to pay for it
asciilifeform: very much so. a place i worked went broke partly because we couldn't get a necessary transfection going.
mircea_popescu: it's basically a game of "twelve lines" or "six lines" or w/e
mircea_popescu: those lines could each be 1 in 100
mircea_popescu: or they could be 1 in 10^65
mircea_popescu: you don't know...
mircea_popescu: so you get five of the six... and that's all you're going to get.
asciilifeform: it's also a game of 'e. coli simply can't be persuaded to piss out X.' or 'croaks trying.'
mircea_popescu: that's probably the product of the future, by the way : the organic computer.
KRS1: yes
mircea_popescu: in the sense of, this programmable device capable of controlled gmoization.
mircea_popescu: sort of like a 3d printer + desktop combo, but made out of cunt tissue and capable of pissing apples.
mircea_popescu: (not whole apples, of course. apple paste)
asciilifeform: we have those already: chinese postdocs. they don't always cut it, though.
KRS1: heh thats quite a picture
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, they can't actually sprout shitake.
KRS1: i would like pr0ns of that
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform, the saddest story to date is of this corp that MANAGED it. once.
mircea_popescu: they figured it's easy to do, and so didn't pay enough attention to the samples
mircea_popescu: which died.
mircea_popescu: and then could never do it again.
asciilifeform: managed what?
mircea_popescu: the whole list of combos they needed
mircea_popescu: apparently one of them being a very improbable occurence they lucked out on. once.
asciilifeform: when you're in bio business, you have to be prepared that your working capital can literally croak.
asciilifeform: one of the worst occasions is when a mouse farm dies
asciilifeform: this can happen overnight.
asciilifeform: (little buggers all catch something at once. esp. if they're immunocompromised for whatever reason.)
mircea_popescu: afaik you can't even go into the mouse farms anymore
mircea_popescu: wholly robotic shit
asciilifeform: btw, phun phact: they're under 24/7 armed guard, in any respectable shop.
asciilifeform: i've never once been inside - didn't have clearance.
mircea_popescu: well 20 years ago it was a lot more amicable a thing
mircea_popescu: ;;ident benkay
gribble: Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified.
asciilifeform: the newer ones have compartmentalized air supplies for individual lots - a bit like dirigible ballonettes.
benkay: ;;ident benkay
gribble: Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified.
benkay: wa
benkay: oh wot as well
benkay: a full day of fighting stupid computers
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assbot: Processing.
benkay: the robots hate me today
asciilifeform: benkay: industrial robo?
benkay: no, i got shot of actual physical fucking atoms a year ago
benkay: nearly a year and a half!
benkay: the cloud robots.
asciilifeform: i still can't bring myself to call a widget that pushes only electrons a robot.
benkay: the widgets for which i'm responsible ultimately move atoms around
benkay: but only after shunting lots of electrons and making lots of api calls and getting the odd human involved
benkay: far more fun to play with than the industrial type
asciilifeform: there's an undeniable sportsmanship appeal to programming a computer that might kill you, however.
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benkay: mega personal happiness penalties from programming in proprietary ladder logic though
asciilifeform: it beats xyz arms hooked up to winblows boxes.
benkay: comprable
benkay: the only upside to that gig was watching the shop operators grow more and more uncomfortable around me and my robots during my tenure
benkay: i would have enjoyed it more had i embraced my sadistic side earlier in life.
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ozbot: MPOE, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at the ranch, "Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website"
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mircea_popescu: japan gets another 7.1
dexX7: @AnonymousOwn3r << this guy is a joke
dexX7: it's a wonder that he is still on the nets
mircea_popescu: why ? nobody really goes after the jokers.
dexX7: hmhm.. i'm not sure what exactly the issue was, but do you remember when almost all godaddy related/hosted websites went black a year ago or so?
dexX7: this was the time this guy popped up, claiming it was him, web news picked it up
dexX7: from that point on he claimed he was behind "everything" on the nets, but of course he wasn't
dexX7: people found his facebook account etc. where he was posting screenshots of his "operations"
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ozbot: GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch
mircea_popescu: anyway, im sure the twitter in question is being run by some teen having fun, otherwise unrelated to anything
dexX7: haha yea
bloctoc: go daddy down probably related to savetoby.com http://www.bobparsons.me/archive_article.php?entry_id=38
dexX7: A man claims to have found an injured, young rabbit under a porch one day, and then nursed it back to health. He then named the rabbit Toby. This individual swears that he will have Toby butchered and served for dinner on June 30, 2005, unless he is able to raise $50,000 in donations or merchandise sales.
KRS1: clever
KRS1: he'll probably get it too
bloctoc: The response from GoDaddy Founder: "I now own a SaveToby.com mouse pad"
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