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nubbins`: lel, "We're goin up! Is this due to the increase in volume in China? Natural steady growth?"
nubbins`: yep, natural steady growth
nubbins`: you got it
pankkake: so, anyone tried Kraken?
dub: yea, dude ran with my money
dub: or do you mean kraken 2.0
pankkake: kraken the exchange
pankkake: one of the few options to trade EUR
dub: yeah the one they named after the old scam one so they could ditch and blame it on harnett
dub: let me in on dat
pankkake: are they related in any way?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2674 @ 0.00116118 = 3.105 BTC [-] {4}
dub: presumably in the way that the new one is also a scam
pankkake: why?
nubbins`: because everything is a scam
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7300022 = 1.46 BTC [-]
dub: otherwise you'd have expected them to change the name to one not already used by a scammer
nubbins`: i'm going to open an exchange called matthew n. wright
dub: my up coming exchange is called bitcoin savings and trust, catchy rite?
kakobrekla: im opening a buccaneer fund
nubbins`: is there any way i can buy shares in this exchange right now?
pankkake: anyway, I like their advanced market orders, I haven't seen that elsewhere
dub: theres two possibilities, they are so incredibly stupid that they dont recognize the brand damage or the ambiguity is intentional
kakobrekla: any normal trading platform has those pankkake
dub: either way, take my money
kakobrekla: dub i think you underestimate the forgetfulness of bitcointards
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 167 @ 0.0012 = 0.2004 BTC [+]
pankkake: I'm sure most people never heard of the first kraken
kakobrekla: the name always kraks me up
dub: third option is they are on krak
nubbins`: i'm always tempted to buy gold with btc when the price jumps up like this
kakobrekla: if you got enough btc you can go long on gold with teh btc
pankkake: that's my plan, buy btc, then buy gold along the way
pankkake: And I certainly don't want gold buys to show on my bank records anyway
kakobrekla: what i mean is go long with btc on fx
nubbins`: pankkake: collectible coins, sure
kakobrekla: but you need to have a bank for that
nubbins`: bullion, no
pankkake: nubbins`: could you elaborate?
nubbins`: well, maybe i should back up a step
nubbins`: why don't you want gold buys to show up on your bank records?
pankkake: don't want the tax man to show up at my house one day to ""buy"" them
nubbins`: i'm not sure i follow
nubbins`: you're saying you don't want your possession of gold to be known to the govt in case they demand that you surrender it to them?
dub: just refuse
dub: worst case is 3 meals and a rape chaser
pankkake: in my country it's already impossible to buy anonymously from legit stores
nubbins`: what country
pankkake: France
nubbins`: lovely, there's a small french colony near here
pankkake: ooh, yes
Namworld: How is it impossible to buy anonymously?
pankkake: anyway, there are signs everywhere in the world of governments tracking gold purchases. I think some US states require identity proofs now
pankkake: Namworld: can't pay cash, have to provide ID card
Namworld: What the fuck...
nubbins`: but i mean
nubbins`: all that gold you bought, you sold again for cash
nubbins`: right?
pankkake: no, I'm keeping it for now
nubbins`: no, i'm the government
nubbins`: and now i have your gold
pankkake: oh, or I lost it in a boat accident? ;)
nubbins`: fell in a blender! who knows!
pankkake: sure. but if I can avoid them looking into me, all the better
nubbins`: well, i suppose so
Namworld: Oh, my gold? It was all eaten. I grind gold flakes out of my gold to decorate fancy meals for my guests.
pankkake: as we say, « vivons cachés, vivons heureux » (live hidden, live happy)
nubbins`: i wonder does that sort of thing happen often? i'm only aware of when the usa did it back in the 30s or whenever
dub: I like my shit to sparkle
pankkake: I think it was illegal to own gold at some times during WW2 in europe
Namworld: I require some unobtainium and an antigravity device for some project. Anyone may procure those?
dub: im still confused why it would matter if the govt took your gold
dub: at that point its not worth anything anyway
nubbins`: because then they'd have your gold!
pankkake: long term storage of value
pankkake: as in, 10-20+ years
dub: if its not legal to own it has no value
nubbins`: tell that to the pill dealers across the street
dub: beyond trading for ammo and wild turkey with other inbreeds notwithstanding
Namworld: You'd be surprised how little people care
pankkake: but it might be legal again
pankkake: or legal elsewhere
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00201103 = 2.011 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: everyone still alive who gave the USG all their gold back in the 30s is probably pretty pissed off right now
dub: nubbins`: presumably pills are not a long term value store
nubbins`: dub: that was more in response to your not legal/no value assertion
nubbins`: illegality often drives up the value of items
dub: for a limited class of items
pankkake: indeed. when gold is made illegal, I'm sure people would have other concerns, like food
nubbins`: well, "illegal items that people desire" is itself a limited class
ozbot: [540 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees, Stratum, MergedMining, Private Servers
nubbins`: but i hear what you're saying
dub: drugs would probably hold quite well actually
dub: I'd rather starve to death high
nubbins`: if the grocery store isn't going to take your gold for payment, you can have as much of it as you want
pankkake: for how much time can you store cigarettes (or other drugs)?
nubbins`: cigarettes go stale
nubbins`: but that doesn't really matter, depending on how badly you want one
pankkake: "Depending on the weather condition, cigarettes can go stale within 2 or 3 weeks after opening. If unopened, they can take more than one year and still be used without any harm."
nubbins`: most common drugs could be stored for a year or two, if done so correctly
pankkake: however my place can be quite humid
nubbins`: yeah, that's not great
pankkake: so far, I'm mostly storing food
nubbins`: storing food is common sense, it's amazing how few people do it
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
dub: I've got a weeks worth, plenty to get to my DR sites
pankkake: yes, especially people of my generation it seems (<30yo)
nubbins`: well, y'know. soft lives
pankkake: it already helped me a few times, like less revenue for a while
nubbins`: yep, agreed
dub: knowing how to hunt and grow shit is useful
nubbins`: i started learning to grow food this year
nubbins`: potatoes, peas, tomatoes, spinach, broccoli, onion
pankkake: my mother does… and the stuff is delicious
kakobrekla: dub is saying hunt bitchez and grow ganja
nubbins`: also useful skills
dub: I have a vege garden and a bunch of seeds
dub: also land a few days walk away wit more extensive gardens
kakobrekla: no sensimilla?
dub: pigs, chickens, cows
pankkake: nice
pankkake: I live in a city, so not for me :/
nubbins`: i have a neighbour who had chickens, the city made him stop
pankkake: though we have a small garden… it doesn't get much light so not sure it would work
dub: being on an island helps, I could feed hundreds with a few hours on the sea every day
kakobrekla: i live in a country with most tractors per capita, i cant get away from farms basically
nubbins`: pros and cons to being on an island
nubbins`: supply chain is very vulnerable
dub: what do I need that I cant kill or grow?
pankkake: medicine
kakobrekla: internets
nubbins`: pizza rolls
dub: I can swap food for pr0n, no need for internets
nubbins`: well, a life that only includes needs is pretty grim
nubbins`: you're gonna want some wants
pankkake: I have a few TBs of porn, I can live without
dub: got somegood books on medicinal plants and shit
nubbins`: protip: marijuana cures cancer
dub: I'm very well qualified to grow weed
nubbins`: i suspect a LOT of people into btc are preppers
dub: not me
kakobrekla: yeah a lot of nuts.
pankkake: indeed
nubbins`: kinda like gold/silver stackers
pankkake: nuts are delicious
nubbins`: lotta nuts
kakobrekla: and they last long in a prepper scenario
nubbins`: cashews are best
nubbins`: very delicious
nubbins`: and only nuts in the culinary sense, so nobody's allergic
dub: I basically in a volcano on active seismic fields
dub: live in*
dub: a lot of people here have emergency supplies
kakobrekla: yeha keep your enemies close
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0012 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.79999997 = 4.8 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: bed time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00736937 = 0.1179 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.0075753 = 0.2424 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00768316 = 0.2305 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-]
Vexual: how do gents
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 35 @ 0.70368581 = 24.629 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0069 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 126 @ 0.00670638 = 0.845 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.05166666 = 1.55 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 66 @ 0.05001515 = 3.301 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.0011516 = 0.2879 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0011511 = 0.1151 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42011099 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07299989 = 0.146 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 510 @ 0.00073998 = 0.3774 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2850 @ 0.0004 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00084967 = 3.9934 BTC [+] {2}
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 2172186.21189
dub: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 250661165.864 based on data since last change | 303446278.016 based on data for last three days
dub: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 263562 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 533 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 250661165.864 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.42789
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 263566 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 529 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 250173034.442 | Estimated Percent Change: 32.17
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69000001 = 1.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69000001 = 1.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69000001 BTC [-]
bitesak: ;;avg price
gribble: Error: "avg" is not a valid command.
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 152.00576, Best ask: 152.49995, Bid-ask spread: 0.49419, Last trade: 152.00000, 24 hour volume: 31063.95478779, 24 hour low: 143.10000, 24 hour high: 153.69902, 24 hour vwap: 148.48608
bitesak: ;;next
gribble: See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-]
bitesak: based on current bids for s.Nsa, based on the 1% minimum, it's a go !
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6825 = 2.73 BTC [-] {2}
dexX7: ;;seen ThickAsThieves
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 53 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> dat PMB
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.670001 = 1.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 945 @ 0.00084948 = 0.8028 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.66202 = 1.9861 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.662 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitesak yeah
dexX7: what is s.nsa anyway? i have a vague impression, but that's solely based on the description of that gpg-token
ozbot: S.NSA first product - The Cardano pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dexX7: > based on the description of that gpg-token
dexX7: yup, i did
dexX7: and i saw the contract on mpex
dexX7: i was just wondering, if there is a document somewhere with more details :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
bitesak: I am all for more understanding, I guess you can list your questions if any?
dexX7: i have no specific question at the moment
bitesak: i see it as the first physical product made through and thanks to bitcoin, other than Bitcoin coins and Tshirt branded stuff I guess.
dexX7: are you an investor or "involved"?
bitesak: nope, I am considering it though and interested in purchasing a few for christmas :)
dexX7: ah i see.. yes, the gpg-token sounds like a really neat object
gecko_x2: this is interesting
gecko_x2: is it MP's own design?
bitesak: I'll probably start with one, test it and do my best to understand it and use it as a means to promote use of GPG among friends and girlfriends
mircea_popescu: bitesak well, miners are more ocmplex products
mircea_popescu: gecko_x2 not in any significant degree. asciilifeform is the tech there.
bitesak: mircea_popescu, I wanted to refer to Casascius Bitcoins for the coins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66200001 = 1.324 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: mp, ok thx
gecko_x2: yea GPG key management was always the issue
gecko_x2: i remember playing with centralized key servers back in the days
gecko_x2: there's just no way a normal joe sixpack can do that
gecko_x2: anyways
gecko_x2: i don't even think gpg keys are the future
gecko_x2: there is one thing that hasn't been mentioned at all after the snowden case
gecko_x2: one thing that the NSA is totally defenceless against
gecko_x2: currently only used in online banking
gecko_x2: and that's OTP
gecko_x2: that's the way messages was delivered during WW2
gecko_x2: and it fucking works
gecko_x2: i think that a single static key as a concept is pretty much dead
gecko_x2: except maybe for initially sharing the actual OTP
mircea_popescu: believe me, it's been mentioned.
gecko_x2: not enough
mircea_popescu: asymmetric keys are a much better solution for poor people, however
mircea_popescu: because poor people can not afford to move otp keys around safely.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, properly implemented pgp is still uncrackable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.663 = 1.989 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: there is one new concept that the blockchain would make theoretically possible too
gecko_x2: time-release encryption
mircea_popescu: there was a start-up last year to do this
mircea_popescu: nothing came of it.
gecko_x2: the blockchain could be used so that a key to a piece of data would be split into say 100000 pieces
gecko_x2: 51% of those pieces would be needed to decrypt
gecko_x2: anyways
gecko_x2: it's a very interesting concept, if you think about encrypting contracts, testimonies, wills etc
dexX7: hmm.. but isn't the collection of pointers to the parts more or less similar to passwords or a key?
gecko_x2: the incentive not to release the key early would be monetary
gecko_x2: let's say you encrypt 'hello world', for 1 month
gecko_x2: you have an altcur, called 'timecoin'
dexX7: okay
gecko_x2: you have say 1 second coins, 1 minute coins and 1 hour coins
gecko_x2: you combine them to make up a month
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.663 BTC [+]
gecko_x2: ppl have clients where they can trade all these coins
dexX7: yup
gecko_x2: say there is the amount of one second coins to make up 100 years
gecko_x2: same with minutes
gecko_x2: same with hours
gecko_x2: you encrypt the message, and the keys are freely traded globally
gecko_x2: ppl have clients which holds fractional pieces of all time encrypted data
gecko_x2: just fractions
gecko_x2: the value of the coins can only be released after a message is decrypted at the expected time, no sooner
gecko_x2: should 51% of the holders of these anonymous timecoins decide to all release them ahead of time, they would become worthless
gecko_x2: something like that
gecko_x2: i'm not smart enough to fully figure it out
gecko_x2: so you would have on your pc a client software
gecko_x2: with a portfolio of time encrypted data
gecko_x2: and as the 1 month encrypted data, when it's time to decrypt
gecko_x2: the client would automatically do it for you
gecko_x2: so you could trade unknown future secrets
gecko_x2: the speculation would be rampant
dexX7: lol
dexX7: i don't think i fully get it
gecko_x2: well
gecko_x2: it's hard to explain
gecko_x2: there is an old post about the concept
ozbot: Time-release encryption using Bitcoin?
gecko_x2: yeah
dexX7: ah ty
gecko_x2: but this post doesn't mention coins as i'm thinking
gecko_x2: i'm thinking you make 3 altcoins
gecko_x2: seconds, minutes, hours
gecko_x2: to make up for let's say 500 years
gecko_x2: i dunno should there be 500 years combined, or 500 years of each
gecko_x2: i'm not smart enough :p
gecko_x2: but each holder would only have a fraction of the future secret
gecko_x2: say george soros want to encrypt something to be released 50 years after his death
dexX7: is it like.. "when 2030030 second coins are mined, it's xxx date, time"?
gecko_x2: fractions of keys to that data would be traded just like altcur's currently
gecko_x2: yeah
gecko_x2: combined with the fact that there is no incentive for all the hundreds of thousands of holders of the fractional keys to release them all ahead of time
gecko_x2: they might not even know what this or that fractional key is really hiding
gecko_x2: until the due date
gecko_x2: man the speculation would be awesome
gecko_x2: like 'i have 350 1 second keys holding soros's secret'
gecko_x2: and they are trading 2500% above initial value :p
dexX7: xD
gecko_x2: because ppl think the secret is gonna be worth millions
gecko_x2: and ofcourse, once the secret is released, the holders of the keys get to see it first
gecko_x2: before the global press etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.66223078 = 8.609 BTC [-] {3}
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 151.00000, Best ask: 151.41001, Bid-ask spread: 0.41001, Last trade: 151.00000, 24 hour volume: 33087.00526892, 24 hour low: 143.10000, 24 hour high: 153.69902, 24 hour vwap: 148.83173
bitesak: !ticker s.mpoe
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
bitesak: ;;ticker s.mpoe
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mpoe
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00085005 high: 0.0008576 low: 0.00084444 volume: 42500 btc: 36.12705707 7 day: average: 0.00084643 high: 0.00085779 low: 0.00083547 volume: 912159 btc: 772.07450746 30 day: average: 0.00089086 high: 0.00094307 low: 0.0007725 volume: 4521469 btc: 4027.99396016
bitesak: thanks mp, was reading on of your articles on MPOE evaluation and tried the !ticker command
bitesak: just discovered the The list of discontinued assets on MPEx page !
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00050025 / 0.0005293 / 0.00059999 (7055 shares, 3.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0005 / 0.00054634 / 0.00059999 (43300 shares, 23.66 BTC)
dexX7: ;;nethash
gribble: 2217153.74554
dexX7: ;;diffchange
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 33.36436 % based on data since last change | 63.63379 % based on data for last three days
arij_: that diff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3888 @ 0.0002479 = 0.9638 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.65974999 = 19.7925 BTC [-] {7}
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 263611 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 484 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 252338232.77 | Estimated Percent Change: 33.31391
dexX7: hey tat, assuming havelock closes it's door to us issuers, too. what would you do then?
ThickAsThieves: we have contigency plans in place
ThickAsThieves: contingency*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.006287 = 0.2452 BTC [-]
dexX7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310282.msg3317569 another "signature based auth/login system"
ozbot: SQRL: revolutionizes web site login and authentication
frank3: hi guys
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.10293331 = 0.3088 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Canadian government: 'We want to unbundle television channels' | The Verge
ThickAsThieves: canada keep being the anti-US plz
nubbins`: canadian government is acting really, really strangely lately
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 14052 @ 0.00017036 = 2.3939 BTC [-] {14}
nubbins`: like, suspiciously consumer-friendly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.006111 = 0.6111 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.65752 = 3.2876 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.00611005 = 0.9043 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00611005 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 85 @ 0.001199 = 0.1019 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.04500167 = 0.27 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.71 = 4.26 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 13600 @ 0.00018 = 2.448 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 850 @ 0.00043798 = 0.3723 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00084656 = 6.5185 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Au demolat-o - YouTube
mircea_popescu: romanian expert techniques.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00645 = 1.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0065 = 0.182 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5000 @ 0.00116222 = 5.8111 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00645228 = 0.271 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.71898988 = 2.876 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00679972 = 1.3055 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 122 @ 0.00116151 = 0.1417 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0069999 = 0.182 BTC [+]
kleeck: .d
ozbot: 189281249.28103 | Next Diff in 425 blocks | Estimated Change: 34.1303% in 1d 22h 27m 50s
bob_: ;;24hprc
gribble: Error: "24hprc" is not a valid command.
bob_: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 142.87
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
bob_: mircea_popescu: so tomorrow there will basically be a sell order for 100m s.nsa at 0.0001 that will stay up until the 20th and then be removed?
mircea_popescu: pretty much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.73249999 = 7.325 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06398 = 0.4479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.06398 = 0.4479 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 85 @ 0.05 = 4.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.06398999 = 0.256 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00697 = 0.4112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 747 @ 0.00119998 = 0.8964 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 150 @ 0.00699999 = 1.05 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 150 @ 0.007 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
ozbot: BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014
mircea_popescu: sorta even odds.
mircea_popescu: what's asicminer worth at 1bn diff ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter how many hashes is 1bn
mircea_popescu: heh. look at THAT
mircea_popescu: i recall the days when there were ups and down, those bumps you can barely see now
nubbins`: that's quite the graph
mircea_popescu: so 1bn diff is like 7peta hash/s
ThickAsThieves: people will still be mining with block erupters
mircea_popescu: the fastest computer in the world does like 33tflops
mircea_popescu: there's what, like 7 flops to the hash ?
mircea_popescu: basically bitcoin is currently drinking more computing power than all the rest of the computing world combined or some shit.
ThickAsThieves: so when can the nethash start cracking into bank accounts?
nubbins`: (hours)
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is the part us "regulators" will have to figure out soon enough :
mircea_popescu: don't piss off btc or else you may not have two codes left standing together.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00697 = 0.1115 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.06398999 = 1.9197 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12639 @ 0.00020643 = 2.6091 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2951 @ 0.00019662 = 0.5802 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15540 @ 0.00018095 = 2.812 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 337 @ 0.0022 = 0.7414 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.703 BTC [-]
ozbot: Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010
kakobrekla: this is cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 231 @ 0.00692115 = 1.5988 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00699989 = 0.462 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.000181 = 0.905 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 181 @ 0.00674767 = 1.2213 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 257 @ 0.00677096 = 1.7401 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.0068 = 0.6324 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.000844 = 3.798 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00670001 = 0.2412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00084398 = 1.8146 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00671001 = 0.1879 BTC [+]
ozbot: Gargoyle - Drown - YouTube
ozbot: A web-wallet operator willing to betray his users
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 354 @ 0.00229002 = 0.8107 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: 0 users affected
kakobrekla: i thought it was a bit funny, taaki quoting mpoe-pr now
Vexual: is it impossible to have a bitcoin daemon serveice where the user retains any instance of the private keys?
Vexual: without the blockchain
Vexual: on the user device
kakobrekla: im sure wallets allow you to dump priv key?
Vexual: yes, but imagine a web sevice where they never see they privkey
Vexual: is it possible?
kakobrekla: you take that feature away and voila?
Vexual: user has private key. service provides blockchain
kakobrekla: dunno if theres such implementation online atm but its possible
kakobrekla: js or whatever client to sign the txes and use external service to relay them
kakobrekla: i think some services allow you to rely a tx
kakobrekla: and others to craft your own tx
Vexual: a lite node?
kakobrekla: you dont need a node
Vexual: why do i need to blockchain to make a tx if i rely on miners anyway?
kakobrekla: to know whats on teh priv key
Vexual: an online service could say yes
Vexual: and the miner puts it in stone
Vexual: i need the blockchain to sign?
kakobrekla: technically, no
Vexual: there must be something im missing, i don't even fully understand bitcoin when im sober, im not too proud to say
ozbot: Send a Raw Bitcoin Transaction via Coinbin
ozbot: Create a Raw Bitcoin Transaction via Coinbin
Vexual: never heard of coinbin
kakobrekla: well it does what you are saying
Vexual: yeah so it's possible
kakobrekla: i said so at the begining.
Vexual: yes
Vexual: i wasnt sure if i was being retarded
Vexual: it seems a 1 in 6 miner could provide a service like this with benefits and an isos app for the designer handbag set, with a nfc standard.
Vexual: how many pools are there these days?
kakobrekla: oh lol
kakobrekla: your attention to detail Luke-Jr, admirable
Vexual: thats not even a word
Vexual: its a nfc not an nfc, just like its mouses not mices
kakobrekla: Vexual
ozbot: Bitcoin Charts
kakobrekla: see hashrate distribution
kakobrekla: and laern to google!
Vexual: maybe 13
Vexual: we both know it's not many
Vexual: and luke jr would have a lot less without the bots
kakobrekla: asicminer is tiny compared to ghash and ghash is basically fury only
Vexual: ghash fuckin owns
kakobrekla: im there yea
Vexual: how much you got?
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