Hide Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-09-06 | 2013-09-08 → ↓
mircea_popescu: jurov "an unit" sorta has this "an hero" flavour to it. maybe it becomes a meme
ozbot: List for general discussion of cryptography, particularly focused on technical matters
mircea_popescu: re the entire linux rng discussion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4055 @ 0.00088642 = 3.5944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00088653 = 1.1082 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2645 @ 0.00088656 = 2.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003443 = 0.0826 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.004061 = 0.0284 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 15 @ 0.002439 = 0.0366 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.02069 = 1.3449 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02069 = 0.2069 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 8 @ 0.002439 = 0.0195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.02 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003333 = 0.0167 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 104 @ 0.003333 = 0.3466 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 117 @ 0.003332 = 0.3898 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2901 @ 0.004 = 11.604 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003329 = 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003302 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.001079 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 194 @ 0.003889 = 0.7545 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 28 @ 0.003886 = 0.1088 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003885 = 0.0389 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 105 @ 0.003882 = 0.4076 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.003841 = 0.096 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.00384 = 0.384 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 423 @ 0.003804 = 1.6091 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 199 @ 0.0038 = 0.7562 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1216 @ 0.0038 = 4.6208 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003891 = 0.0467 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.00389 = 0.1945 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.00666666 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003813 = 0.0839 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 70 @ 0.003812 = 0.2668 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.00666666 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02033 = 0.2033 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02063 = 0.1238 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02064 = 0.2064 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.0207 = 0.7659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0207 = 0.5796 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0207 = 0.1863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00088553 = 1.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.134 = 0.268 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.0039 = 0.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0209 = 0.0418 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 10 @ 0.00342999 = 0.0343 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 5 @ 0.00359 = 0.018 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 369 @ 0.0036 = 1.3284 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.182 = 4.364 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.0999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.0999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.182 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.004 = 0.028 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00088656 = 9.1316 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1973 = 0.9865 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1356 = 0.5424 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.182 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.181 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00088656 = 3.5462 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 5 @ 0.001701 = 0.0085 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 25 @ 0.0017 = 0.0425 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 60 @ 0.001653 = 0.0992 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001652 = 1.652 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001645 = 1.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 850 @ 0.001645 = 1.3983 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 500 @ 0.001641 = 0.8205 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 5000 @ 0.00164 = 8.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001636 = 1.636 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 666 @ 0.001631 = 1.0862 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 100 @ 0.001623 = 0.1623 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1 @ 0.001621 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 9793 @ 0.001618 = 15.8451 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003901 = 0.039 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 33 @ 0.003845 = 0.1269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 19 @ 0.003805 = 0.0723 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 36 @ 0.003804 = 0.1369 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.284 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.287 = 4.574 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.288 = 11.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11012 @ 0.00088656 = 9.7628 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.00381 = 0.0381 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003809 = 0.0762 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 15 @ 0.003808 = 0.0571 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0209 = 0.6061 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.021 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0214 = 0.6848 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1732 @ 0.00088553 = 1.5337 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003994 = 0.0399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003995 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 175 @ 0.00104999 = 0.1837 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 28 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0294 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 146 @ 0.0214 = 3.1244 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0215 = 0.817 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00104999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 70 @ 0.004011 = 0.2808 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0215 = 0.344 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.004011 = 0.0521 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1305 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 41 @ 0.002455 = 0.1007 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 149 @ 0.002469 = 0.3679 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 7 @ 0.0002745 = 0.0019 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003916 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003915 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 151 @ 0.003864 = 0.5835 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 18 @ 0.003861 = 0.0695 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.003856 = 0.0964 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.003855 = 0.3855 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 396 @ 0.003801 = 1.5052 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 84 @ 0.0038 = 0.3192 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 205 @ 0.0038 = 0.779 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 750 @ 0.003329 = 2.4968 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1125 @ 0.00333 = 3.7463 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 1 @ 0.000204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 6 @ 0.0002031 = 0.0012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 4 @ 0.0999 = 0.3996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0211 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004001 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004001 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004002 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 437 @ 0.004019 = 1.7563 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 437 @ 0.004054 = 1.7716 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 96 @ 0.004058 = 0.3896 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FIMB] 181 @ 0.0109 = 1.9729 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8668 @ 0.00088433 = 7.6654 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 282 @ 0.00088656 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 959 @ 0.0001922 = 0.1843 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 964 @ 0.0001912 = 0.1843 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4 @ 0.00019101 = 0.0008 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2032 @ 0.00019101 = 0.3881 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 62 @ 0.00019101 = 0.0118 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.02033299 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.02033299 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 813 @ 0.00088656 = 0.7208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.0008866 = 3.1918 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00088675 = 5.1875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1937 @ 0.00088687 = 1.7179 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.0107 = 0.321 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003885 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
virtuals: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.02492, Best ask: 126.12053, Bid-ask spread: 0.09561, Last trade: 126.02491, 24 hour volume: 21870.65840280, 24 hour low: 121.25000, 24 hour high: 131.87000, 24 hour vwap: 125.56323
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003331 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 220 @ 0.003431 = 0.7548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003432 = 0.0172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003433 = 0.3433 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003434 = 0.0172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 14 @ 0.003435 = 0.0481 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004053 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 52 @ 0.09901 = 5.1485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]
virtuals: ;;nethash
gribble: 761402.128815
ozbot: 86933017.77119 | Next Diff in 1480 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.8855% in 8d 12h 57m 12s
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.02149 = 1.5258 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02149 = 0.2149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1235 = 0.3705 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0216 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02163 = 0.3893 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1221 = 0.4884 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.122 = 0.244 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 49 @ 0.003887 = 0.1905 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003886 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 32 @ 0.003333 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003332 = 0.0167 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13 @ 0.00333 = 0.0433 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.002469 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 95 @ 0.001796 = 0.1706 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 21 seconds
benkay: how does one query for the last diff change?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25 @ 0.003331 = 0.0833 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003892 = 0.0078 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 8 @ 0.003892 = 0.0311 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 12 @ 0.01211 = 0.1453 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003883 = 0.0505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003331 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003883 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002469 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.00248 = 0.0149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.00248 = 0.0124 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.02701 = 0.081 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.226 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.226 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.212 = 8.848 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.005003 = 0.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]
b0n1: ;;lastseen davout
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
b0n1: ;;seen davout
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <davout> hi all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00088698 = 4.9671 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.181 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6 @ 0.003394 = 0.0204 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003361 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40 @ 0.00336 = 0.1344 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003358 = 0.0134 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 112 @ 0.00333 = 0.373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 27 @ 0.003302 = 0.0892 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 574 @ 0.003289 = 1.8879 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 143 @ 0.003284 = 0.4696 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.202 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00088698 = 1.4635 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00088715 = 7.4521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00088722 = 4.1256 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02112 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02111 = 0.2111 BTC [-]
dub: ;;prevdiff
gribble: 65750060.1491
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02137 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003384 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.002407 = 0.0241 BTC [-]
dub: ;;prevdiffchange
gribble: 32.2174
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 11 @ 0.001796 = 0.0198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.02033299 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.00104999 = 0.1155 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 1 @ 0.000257 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00088553 = 3.8521 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 60 @ 0.004011 = 0.2407 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 287 @ 0.01211 = 3.4756 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 32 @ 0.1975 = 6.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 36 @ 0.1974 = 7.1064 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.197 = 1.773 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.197 = 1.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02139 = 0.1283 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.000366 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0003651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.000343 = 0.0048 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 76 @ 0.000343 = 0.0261 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.000332 = 0.0007 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 42 @ 0.01212 = 0.509 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 14 @ 0.003376 = 0.0473 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003377 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003379 = 0.0169 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8 @ 0.003401 = 0.0272 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003402 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 322 @ 0.003407 = 1.0971 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 161 @ 0.003431 = 0.5524 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 124 @ 0.003434 = 0.4258 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00088387 = 2.6074 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.002489 = 0.0149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003889 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.003899 = 0.0195 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00978800 BTC to 2`019`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.184 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.183 = 6.549 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.182 = 4.364 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.0039 = 0.0078 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02005 = 0.2005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.02001001 = 0.6003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.02000001 = 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 439 @ 0.02 = 8.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02082 = 0.2082 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0208 = 0.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02072 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02071 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0207 = 0.1449 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02021 = 0.1213 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0202 = 0.606 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0202 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.0039 = 0.2028 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.0039 = 0.0468 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 963 @ 0.0001921 = 0.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1735 @ 0.0001922 = 0.3335 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1 @ 0.00019259 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 2750 @ 0.0002 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.0039 = 0.0273 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02019 = 0.0606 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.02016 = 1.0685 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 345 @ 0.02015 = 6.9518 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0201 = 0.201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02003 = 0.2003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02001 = 2.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.003888 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003888 = 0.0078 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0201 = 0.0402 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003875 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003865 = 0.0464 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 36 @ 0.003866 = 0.1392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003868 = 0.0232 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003863 = 0.0232 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.02 = 0.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4127 @ 0.00088555 = 3.6547 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.01999 = 1.0595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003327 = 0.0333 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003324 = 0.0166 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003293 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 527 @ 0.003293 = 1.7354 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 51 @ 0.0002147 = 0.0109 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.02025 BTC [+]
ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread
mircea_popescu: benkay this trend to make the browser central to computing is retarded.
mircea_popescu: there's no need for phones that are "entertainment centers" nor for browsers that are abstractions of the os.
mircea_popescu: pankkake lol did kleeck ignore you after that ?
pankkake: wasn't my post
mircea_popescu: ;;nethash
gribble: 754010.73283
mircea_popescu: only 3x what they predicted lolz.
mircea_popescu: "Why should the owners of two different exchanges spend their time and money to develop a protocol for transferring shares? How would it benefit either of them?"
mircea_popescu: LorenzoMoney you're a retard aren't you.
mircea_popescu: i need to stop following these links. i have people insulating me from the idiocy for a reason.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00088357 = 5.1035 BTC [-]
ClivePalmer: i only trust Lorenzo Sanchez
BigBitz: +1 mircea_popescu
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 1.028 = 2.056 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: also in case anyone's missed it, trilema coments are like the shit these days : http://trilema.com/2013/anonimity-not-for-the-poor/#comment-94888
mircea_popescu: apparently linus t was complicit in weakening linux rng implementation.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.003867 = 0.0116 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003867 = 0.0387 BTC [+]
pankkake: I've been wanting an http://www.entropykey.co.uk/ for a while
pankkake: "Please note that there is a very long waiting period for Entropy Keys at the moment." oh well…
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02126 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02129 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003357 = 0.0336 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003358 = 0.0672 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02129 = 0.0426 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003358 = 0.0168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003365 = 0.0337 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 212 @ 0.003384 = 0.7174 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 424 @ 0.003386 = 1.4357 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1345 @ 0.003392 = 4.5622 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.003393 = 10.179 BTC [+]
ozbot: csrng -
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know one of the bright minds that made asics or wanted to make asics but didn't get to it in time should make a stick like that.
mircea_popescu: "The Entropy Key contains two high-quality noise generators, and an ARM Cortex CPU that actively measures, checks and confirms all generated random numbers"
mircea_popescu: honestly i doubt these know wtf they're talking about.
mircea_popescu: "two" ? which two ? what do they do ?
mircea_popescu: how's an arm chip "check" random numbers ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003868 = 0.0387 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2654 @ 0.00088381 = 2.3456 BTC [+]
pankkake: I tried a thing to make audio an source of entropy, but couldn't get it to work
mircea_popescu: why not ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003868 = 0.0387 BTC [+]
pankkake: I don't remember. maybe it was really old and wanted OSS which I had disabled
pankkake: http://www.entropykey.co.uk/tech/ and the pdf gives somewhat of an explanation, not that I can validate it
ozbot: Simtec Electronics Entropy Key: USB True Random Number Generator
mircea_popescu: avalanche noise
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 310 @ 0.003402 = 1.0546 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The streams are also exclusive-ORed together and that stream's entropy is estimated in the same manner. If the raw streams appear to have severely reduced entropy then it indicates a fault in that generator, if the third stream has low entropy then it indicates that the generators have correlated and are not independently gathering entropy.
mircea_popescu: that's a good test at least.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 30 @ 0.003406 = 0.1022 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003865 = 0.0464 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.008205 = 0.0821 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 182 @ 0.003406 = 0.6199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003869 = 0.0503 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 179 @ 0.003406 = 0.6097 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Shortly before the first release, I read an article about the ongoing
mircea_popescu: Bitkeeper debacle that described Larry McVoy as mercurial (in the sense
mircea_popescu: of 'fickle'). Given the multiple meanings, the convenient abbreviation,
mircea_popescu: and the good fit with my pre-existing naming scheme (see my email
mircea_popescu: address), it clicked instantly. Mercurial is thus named in Larry's
mircea_popescu: honor. I do not know if the same is true of Git."
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003406 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2324 @ 0.00088357 = 2.0534 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00088315 = 3.7092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00088186 = 2.0891 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1231 = 0.4924 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 23 @ 0.122 = 2.806 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 23 @ 0.00247 = 0.0568 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.01249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0212 = 0.636 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 42 @ 0.09903 = 4.1593 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 25 @ 0.09902 = 2.4755 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 20 @ 0.099 = 1.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.09384 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 8 @ 0.0013 = 0.0104 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0013 = 0.0026 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088662 = 6.4723 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.00104579 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.00333 = 0.0333 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003863 = 0.0077 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.008205 = 0.0656 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.021 = 0.483 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.232 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.021 = 0.588 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.096 = 0.672 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.203 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.00247 = 0.0074 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 35 @ 0.00103102 = 0.0361 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 34 @ 0.00103101 = 0.0351 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 8 @ 0.001031 = 0.0082 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 958 @ 0.00103 = 0.9867 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 42 @ 0.00103 = 0.0433 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001026 = 0.0205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001021 = 0.0204 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 8 @ 0.00102003 = 0.0082 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 48 @ 0.00102002 = 0.049 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00102001 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 594 @ 0.00102001 = 0.6059 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021 = 0.147 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 21 @ 0.0999 = 2.0979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003405 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00088662 = 3.9011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00088724 = 3.2828 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.219 = 24.409 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 673 @ 0.00104999 = 0.7066 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00105 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003863 = 0.0077 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003862 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 40 @ 0.003861 = 0.1544 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.00385 = 0.0077 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 125 @ 0.003801 = 0.4751 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.0038 = 1.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 179 @ 0.003765 = 0.6739 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 125 @ 0.003711 = 0.4639 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.00371 = 1.855 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 26 @ 0.00371 = 0.0965 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003403 = 0.0238 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.003406 = 0.2895 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003406 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.003407 = 0.4088 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.003408 = 1.0224 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1143 @ 0.00341 = 3.8976 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 26 @ 0.00102003 = 0.0265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.021 = 0.042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.0107 = 0.0856 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 857 @ 0.00341 = 2.9224 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 135 @ 0.003429 = 0.4629 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 108 @ 0.00343 = 0.3704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00088724 = 10.5138 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00088753 = 1.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00088794 = 2.7082 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 2 @ 0.01209 = 0.0242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 97 @ 0.003428 = 0.3325 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 14 @ 0.00247 = 0.0346 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1503 @ 0.00343 = 5.1553 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.00343 = 0.0686 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 25 @ 0.000561 = 0.014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000561 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.00342 = 0.0103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 4301 @ 0.00102003 = 4.3871 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 385 @ 0.00102001 = 0.3927 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 297 @ 0.00342 = 1.0157 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 300 @ 0.00680138 = 2.0404 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4 @ 0.0068 = 0.0272 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 696 @ 0.00676 = 4.705 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 304 @ 0.00676 = 2.055 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1500 @ 0.00675001 = 10.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 13 @ 0.00670001 = 0.0871 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 75 @ 0.0067 = 0.5025 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 108 @ 0.00666666 = 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 100 @ 0.0002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.003938 = 1.6185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021 = 0.063 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.0119 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003946 = 0.0789 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003947 = 0.0395 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.003953 = 1.6247 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 210 @ 0.003957 = 0.831 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 105 @ 0.003958 = 0.4156 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 183 @ 0.00399 = 0.7302 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.003991 = 0.9978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.003999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.003996 = 0.999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]
fractal: url?
fractal: mp: well thats because whoever decided is a fool, and bitbet will take a reputational hit for it
ozbot: BitBet - Labcoins own 130nm design sample chips will be received by testers by 12TH SEPT 2013
Duffer1: the one about 5 tested samples before a certain date
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fractal he who steps into deciding contentious matters without recourse for the parties is going to make a lot of enemies of your sort.
fractal: "PR outlets and known shills specifically excluded" --- this is bad bet language... what is a PR outlet? who are the known shills? this is the kind of bullshit bet that BitBet should NOT be accepting
mircea_popescu: this was well known aforehand, excuse me if i fail to be impressed a year later.
mircea_popescu: yeah ? how would you have phrased that ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 4 @ 0.002099 = 0.0084 BTC [+]
Duffer1: "anyone officially involved with, or paid by"
fractal: id' specifically list names of users who have ordered and agreed to verity
Duffer1: meh idc
pankkake: Error: Google 2-Factor MUST be enabled to transfer shares.
pankkake: lol bitfunder
pankkake: really the worst site ever
Duffer1: bf makes me sad :(
mircea_popescu: fractal what if the list is 50`000 names long ?
fractal: heres another bullshit sentence -- "credibly show their sample ASIC chip working to specification" what is the specification? what is the timestamp of the spec? what if Labcoin changes spec during the bet?
fractal: mp: not hard to link to a pastebin
mircea_popescu: the timestamp is the date the bet was made.
mircea_popescu: this was established already on the bfl contentions.
mircea_popescu: and yes it's not hard to link to a pastebin but it's hard to have it read.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]
fractal: mp: so then why was the bitfury bet a yes when the hardware UNIT as advertised didn't do 400Gh? but only 365Gh????????????
mircea_popescu: i'd rather have vague short text everyone can be expected to read than long text everyone can be expected not to read.
fractal: mp: the bitfury bet, as timestamped, showed the 400Gh unit as being hardware on 1M-board.
Duffer1: making a database of every name involved is a completely unrealistic expectation for any bet
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 exactly.
mircea_popescu: fractal they advertised two types, overshot performance on one, undershot on the other and made up for the difference sending more gear.
fractal: mp: if bitfury sehipped more hardware, they changed the spec, and the bet was a yes..... you've contradicted yourself.
mircea_popescu: i get that in a strong nominalist view you want this as a no,
mircea_popescu: but you'll have to understand that bitbet is used by many people for many purposes and technical arguments may or may not carry.
fractal: a nominalist view is the only way to decide it.
mircea_popescu: ideally your position is substantially supported. if it's technically suported you're at risk.
fractal: people bet based on the logical flow of the language in the bet
mircea_popescu: this is true now and it'll stay true as best as i can determine until we move on to writing c++ instead of english
fractal: hahah
fractal: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01185 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5 @ 0.00106 = 0.0053 BTC [+]
fractal: mp: i think betbet should return the NO bets their money, and then gain from the positive PR they'd receive
mircea_popescu: well if that's what you think i really can't wait for your competitor.
fractal: rather then having these forum posts continue on indefinitely
mircea_popescu: i'd bet there a lot, seeing how i probably have a lot more shitslinging capacity than you can dream of.
fractal: hahaha
fractal: ok sounds good
fractal: fuckbitbet.com wouldn't take bad bets though in the first place, so it woudln't run into these problems
ThickAsThieves: chip & pin card design added to details: http://i.imgur.com/YebNUYx.png
mircea_popescu: well no, as a fiction it wouldn't. once it's live i'm curious how that works.
mircea_popescu: and im not being facetious either. i'm actually curious. maybe i learn something.
fractal: just dont take bad bets. if the bet can't be broken down into logical symbols, dont take it
fractal: with all terms defined
mircea_popescu: this sounds great in theory.
fractal: btw, please dont register fuckbitbet.com
Duffer1: ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.217 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: im not gonna.
mircea_popescu: (and if i was gonna i'd have registered it in january not september.)
fractal: why not? im trying to use reverse psychology so that you have to spend $4
fractal: regsiter it!!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 62 @ 0.003801 = 0.2357 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 188 @ 0.0038 = 0.7144 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lmao why not. because i believe in free speech.
fractal: now i'm actually using reverse reverse psychology so that you don't register it
fractal: or potentially reverse-reverse-reverse psychology
mircea_popescu: just go get laid.
fractal: advice we can all take, i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: im dried out. celebrated 100mn yesterday.
fractal: whats 100mn
ClivePalmer: lol, just go get laid
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
fractal: oh, 100m difficulty?
fractal: yeah thats not surprising
mircea_popescu: it takes more to make a block than all the math done in the entire history of humanity up until 1900 or so.
fractal: btw, i gave up on trying to convince idiots that buying mining equipment in USD that doesn't ROI in BTC terms is a bad idea....
fractal: so now i'm selling virtual hashing units for USD that will never ROI in BTC terms.... i'm paying out 100% PPS, and pocketing the BTC differential as profit
fractal: but the idiot buyers are happy because 'when the exchange rate goes up, they'll ROI in USD!'
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assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 238 @ 0.003785 = 0.9008 BTC [-]
fractal: sooooooo stupid
fractal: easy money
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fractal: they send me USD. i immeditaely convert it to BTC.... then i pay them out 50% of that over the lifetime of the virtual miner, and keep the other 50% as profit
fractal: soooooooooo stupid idiots all over the forums falling for this
fractal: already have 800 BTC in contracts
ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool) <<< I like the yellow, but ultimately that's all decided by the marketing team
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ThickAsThieves: I did suggest some tweaks, who knows if they'll listen :)
Duffer1: cheers man, i'm reading the prospectus now
fractal: all Mining company IPOs are a scam
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fractal: AM, VMC, all of them
fractal: short all of them to zero
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: all companies are a scam, cuz like 99% of them go out of business someday
fractal: right. which means you have to sell shares to idiots to make money, which is morally wrong
fractal: according to luke-jr
Duffer1: i don't see how it's a scam if divs provide more income than your buy in
Luke-Jr: fractal: I don't decide morals.
fractal: Luke-Jr: you try to preach arbitrary ones
Luke-Jr: nor did I say what fractal claims I said
fractal: universal morals dont exist, everybody has different definitions. so get off your high horse
Luke-Jr: fractal: universal morals DO exist
pankkake: why even bother with this guy
fractal: Luke-Jr: yeah, you instead accuse others of trying to 'steal' coins from people. incredibly rude and unprofessional
Luke-Jr: "everybody" making up their own is merely delusional
pankkake: he reminds me of the crazy homeless guys who talk to themselves
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pankkake: in 10 years he will be on the streets ranting about bitbet
fractal: Luke-Jr: your morals for betting standards -- i bet most would disagree with you
Luke-Jr: fractal: they aren't mine, and anyone who disagrees with the Church on morals is simply wrong
fractal: Luke-Jr: the same church that burned books, raped and killed millions? no thank you.
Luke-Jr: fractal: slander all you like, won't make it true
fractal: Luke-Jr: promote a set of morals that are false all you like, won't make it true
Luke-Jr: I don't.
fractal: yes, you do
fractal: you accussed me of theft based on your 'morals'
fractal: complete bullshit.
fractal: even after i used your own post to disprove your argument
fractal: since i told all in the comments that the bet was a NO
fractal: before betting
mircea_popescu: da fuck is going on here anyway.
fractal: i checked to make sure the rules
fractal: Luke-Jr: and by the way, bets on bitbet aren't bets. they are a contract, based on clauses in the FAQ, which read "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win" ... this is against your morals post, which means everyone who bets on bitbet is not a moral better. which means they aren't betting, they're engaging in a contract
fractal: mp: basically Luke-Jr tried to accuse me of theft and stealing coins, based on some post from a christian church website on betting, because he thinkgs i knew the outcome before i made the bet, and didn't tell anyone about it in time for them to retract their bet
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal claims you're a scammer; while I don't argue about that, I think you made the right call here
fractal: Luke-Jr: everyone who can do math on the forum post disagrees with you
fractal: Luke-Jr: 2 units != 1 unit
fractal: Luke-Jr: punin himself acknowleged that a 400Gh unit does not do 365Gh
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fractal: does not do 400Gh
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fractal: also, I'll be monitoring the bitfury thread and waiting for punin to make more comments about what a 'unit' is.... I will post all of these so that people can see that your attempt to define a unit as something other then 1M-board makes you look like a complete fool
fractal: Luke-Jr: i have no doubt Anduck likely paid you off to shilll for him....
nubbins`: and where's the bitnet?
nubbins`: uh, bitbet
fractal: theres no possible way that anyone could say that a unit was anything other then what fits on 1M-board.... its advertised right on their website
fractal: the only reason someone would disagree is if they were paid a bribe...
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fractal: you can't defy logic without paying a bribe
nubbins`: nm, found it
fractal: Luke-Jr: by the way, why did eligius start merge-mining Namecoin??? i thought you found that chain morally wrong to promote?
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fractal: Luke-Jr: personally i think its disgusting that you are knowingly merge mining a chain with illegal content on it....
nubbins`: well, after a cursory, glance, it would seem that the outcome of that bet is an obvious no. 365 < 400.
mircea_popescu: who is this guy anyway.
fractal: Luke-Jr: its clear that money and wealth has corrupted you......
fractal: nubbins`: thanks. you and most others are logical.
fractal: Luke-Jr: why does eligius merge mine namecoins? have you been corrupted by money?
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal = integrity42
fractal: Luke-Jr: another conspiratorial speculation by yourself
fractal: with zero evidence to back it up
nubbins`: for that matter, if the unit only hashes at 365GH/s, then the "400 gigahash mining units" haven't even been delivered
Luke-Jr: fractal: you spoke as if you were integrity42 and made no attempt to even implicitly deny it until now
mircea_popescu: aka some chick named janet ?
fractal: nubbins`: exactly.... thank god you can understand logic. Luke-Jr can't
nubbins`: "Devices must meet advertised performance" is pretty cut and dry, too. We all know what "MUST" means.
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: they delivered 400 Gh/s units that comprised of multiple boards
fractal: Luke-Jr: thinks that 2 Units == 1 Unit
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: which operate well within the advertised performance
fractal: Luke-Jr: 2 Units != 1 Unit.
fractal: Luke-Jr: they were seperate units
fractal: it was a refund
fractal: compensation for missing performance targets
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: link to specs? 400GH/s+ at <= 400W?
fractal: Luke-Jr: Do you know how many H-cards fit in a single unit?
fractal: Luke-Jr: How many H-cards fit in a single unit?
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the specs are linked from the OP there
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the actual watts used by both boards combined is like 270 W
fractal: Luke-Jr: why does eligius merge mine namecoins? you know it is illegal and immoral. when did you become corrupted by monetary gain?
fractal: nubbins`: notice how Luke-Jr says 'both' boards... when the bet states it must be contained in a single UNIT
Kleeck__: Oh. We're debating this AGAIN. This is week three, no?
fractal: Luke-Jr: why won't you answer my question regarding merge mining namecoin. you know it is immoral. when did you become corrupted by monetary gain?
Kleeck__: <3 Bitbet.
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: so they essentially attached 2 boards together, but it's still 400GH/s+ and <= 400W? And everyone who ordered one of these "400 gigahash mining units" is receiving one of these 2-boards-taped-together devices?
Luke-Jr: fractal: if you have an actual argument why namecoin is illegal or immoral, please feel free to email me with it or bring it up in #eligius - but after the last day or so, you seem entirely un-credible in your claims
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fractal: nubbins`: they're not taped together... they're completely seperate devieces.... completely seperate units, because a single unit does not do 400Gh
Duffer1: not everyone received that though Nubbs, it's weird, just ignore it hehe
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: correct, although I don't know if they're physically connected
fractal: Luke-Jr: it came out of your mouth 2 months ago. you woudn't merge-,mine namecoin because it had illegal data in the blockchain --- i want to know when you changed your mind and became corrupted by money
fractal: Luke-Jr: they are 100% not physically connected. seperate units.
fractal: Luke-Jr: but of course, you didnt do your research before spitting out falsehoods
Luke-Jr: fractal: I encourged wizkid057 to reinstate namecoin merged mining when a new development team stepped forward and took it forward with Namecoin-Qt
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Duffer1: nubbins' did you ever play anarchy online under that name?
fractal: Luke-Jr: all i see from you is hypocrisy after hypocrisy....
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Luke-Jr: fractal: all I see from you is trolling after trolling
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nubbins`: okay, well, i see ~500GH/s and ~267W. As long as EVERYONE who ordered the "400 gigahash mining unit" receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious YES. If not everyone receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious NO.
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ClivePalmer: oh penis
nubbins`: If not everyone receives a 400 plus a 25, then you can't call the 400+25 a "unit"
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fractal: <Luke-Jr> nubbins`: correct, although I don't know if they're physically connected ----- don't you think it would be important to find this out before drawing a conclution?
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ClivePalmer: tat save me sooooome
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fractal: nubbins`: but they didn't get a 400Gh unit.
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Luke-Jr: fractal: no, because it is irrelevant
fractal: nubbins`: no 400Gh unit exists.
nubbins`: put it in a larger case, it's a "unit". you're being pedantic
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: some actually got a single board that does 400 Gh/s
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fractal: nubbins`: it still missed performance specs, which is what the bet specifically states...
fractal: nubbins`: 400Gh in a single unit
fractal: you can't tape 2 together
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: did 5 "Respected members" get them, like the bet says?
fractal: or put 2 in a box
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fractal: nubbins`: no single user who ordered 400Gh unit posted receiving more hardware
fractal: nubbins`: only 1 guy who ordered 2 units and got an extra h-card
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: I presume, considering bitbet ruled it "yes"
fractal: but noone who ordered a 400Gh unit only got more then 400Gh
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fractal: either way, Luke-Jr's hypocrisy and corruption by money for mining namecoin.... should be taken into account when he tries to define what a UNIT is
Luke-Jr: I'm not trying to define a unit.
nubbins`: oh, so the guy who got 500GH/s and 267W actually ordered and received a 400GH unit and a 25GH unit, and then just pretended they were collectively a 400GH/s unit?
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Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu already did that
Luke-Jr: and he was the judge, so it's his perrogative to do so
nubbins`: i'm mildly surprised you guys can't come to an agreement on this between yourselves
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mircea_popescu: im not the judge. the closest approximation would be i am the minister of justice.
mircea_popescu: i might intervene in cases where judges are drunk
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mircea_popescu: i won't intervene in cases where one party is pissed off with the judge's ruling.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: well, someone made the call that the bet's outcome was "yes"; that's a judgement.
nubbins`: heheh
nubbins`: they "substantially delivered" on the word "must"?
fractal: nubbins`: yeah,... substantiall delivered != delivered
fractal: its mind blowing.
nubbins`: to be fair, i only started learning english as an infant, but i'm pretty sure the word "must" is an absolute
fractal: nubbins`: why, sir, I would say you are correct.
nubbins`: i would say you press enter too frequently
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what of the sentence "you must bring a cup of coffee"
fractal: pankkake gets so mad at this thread. love to see his posts... also proves he doesn't have me on ignore.... lol.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: suppose i bring you a bowl of coffee instead?
mircea_popescu: suppose the cup is half full.
nubbins`: suppose it's a cup of piss
mircea_popescu: has the absolute been satisfied ?
nubbins`: yes, as you didn't state how full the cup should be
mircea_popescu: well but it's an absolute!
nubbins`: yes, so any cup of coffee, no matter how vague, will do
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the bet didn't state how many boards the unit must be
fractal: Luke-Jr: yes it did
deizel: "you must bring a single cup of coffee containing 400ml" would be a better analogy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's the problem with absolutes.
nubbins`: however, if you request 500ml of coffee at 90C, and I bring 437ml of coffee at 45C...
nubbins`: then i've obviously not delivered on your absolute
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mircea_popescu: deizel wasn't making an analogy for the bet, was simply verifying the properties of must.
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Luke-Jr: nubbins`: in this case, they brought 500ml of coffee at 90C in a bigger cup
fractal: Luke-Jr: It says the 400Gh unit must meet advertised performance.... it was advertised at 1-Mboard, 1-Rpi with 16 H-cards....... you're totally wrong and out of your league here... please READ
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deizel: it's still absolute
fractal: No, in this case, they brought 2 cups of coffe, because they didn't make 1 cup big enough
fractal: I wanted 400ml in 1 cup
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mircea_popescu: it is still absolute, but that doesn't mean absolutely anything someone wants it to mean.
Luke-Jr: fine, 500ml of 90C coffee in 2 cups
fractal: I got 400ml in 2 cups....
fractal: the bet is a no
nubbins`: this guy MXRider even says: "Some info and pictures of my units: 400GH unit and 25GH unit."
fractal: I want my coffee in 1 CUP
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nubbins`: obviously 2 separate units
deizel: you either absolutely brought a cup of coffee or a cup of containing 400ml of coffee.. its all depends on the wording of the initial demand
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: only the judge of the bet has any authority to interpret the bet in this case
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nubbins`: Luke-Jr: all have authority to interpret. few have authority to pass judgment
fractal: Bunnyh: yes.... of course its 2 seperate units... Luke-Jr doesn't understand what a unit is....
fractal: Luke-Jr decided not to read anything and jumped to conclusions
mircea_popescu: fractal need you a link to the earlier discussion of laptops ?
fractal: mp: you asked for 1 cup with 400ML coffee in it.... you got 2 cups with 250ML in each one..... the request was not met.
fractal: you only want to carry around 1 cup, not 2 cups
mircea_popescu: well i asked for nothing, myself.
deizel: so, "Coffee must meet advertised capacity (400ml per cup)" and I give you two cups, each with less than 400ml...
fractal: mp: thats the perfect anaology
mircea_popescu: im just sitting here and partaking in the lively debate of shit that actually matters.
mircea_popescu: this is the aborted rota part 2, basically.
nubbins`: see, if the manufacturer had taped both units inside a shoebox, he could get away with calling two separate units a single unit. but he didn't. the guy who received the units said "here are my two units", and then just pretended that the two separate units were in fact collectively the smaller unit
fractal: deizel: yes... correct.... mp, luke-jr, and other bitbet shills were paid off by Anduck and the yes betters... .which is why they'll disagree with you and the facts
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` im sure at some point they were somehow packaged together. seems a weird way to go about it.
Luke-Jr: I didn't even know who the yes betters were until just now
Luke-Jr: and lol @ me being a bitbet shill
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fractal: nubbins`: thats exactly correct. your ability to draw logic is very good
mircea_popescu: fractal dude get away. it's ridiculous, anduck is this kid.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, what do you suppose was on the shipping waybill? one item or two?
nubbins`: fractal: math degree
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have no idea, but i think it's a ridiculous criteria.
fractal: "the guy who received the units said "here are my two units", and then just pretended that the two separate units were in fact collectively the smaller unit" <--- this
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nubbins`: mircea_popescu: the whole thing is ridiculous
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the rabinical council of lvov ever saw such heartfelt contention !
fractal: mp: maybe if the bet was a NO , as it should have been, then there wouldn't be any issues
mircea_popescu: fractal there'd have been a number of issues still, yes.
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fractal: mp: why? nobody on the yes side would have complained, because not all clauses were met....
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Luke-Jr: number of boards was not a clause
nubbins`: I'm gonna introduce a bet that Apple makes a dual-screen laptop in 2013, and then i'm going to order a macbook and an iPhone, and claim that when they both show up, it's a dual-screen laptop
nubbins`: because hey
nubbins`: who cares that they were sold as discrete units
Bunnyh: fractal: ok, though i don't remember saying anything here :P
nubbins`: i own both
Bunnyh: well, maybe yesterday. this conversation looks familiar !
nubbins`: and therefore can call the macbook+phone combo "a macbook"
mircea_popescu: lol. nubbins` would you return a laptop because it comes with a power brick and you ordered ONE unit ?
nubbins`: i mean, the bet says the macbook must have 2 screens, and see? two screens
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: but these WEREN'T sold as discrete units
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i'm greedy, i don't return free things
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: there seems to be a lot of confusion around that point
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: nor is "unit" a trademark - it's an English word that can apply to collectives
mircea_popescu: ya well.
Luke-Jr: while Apple can define "macbook" because it is their trademark, English words are completely in the judge's discretion
fractal_: Luke-Jr: not in this case -- the language dicatates that a unit is self-contained miner, not a collection of miners, due to it being advertsied as such
fractal_: so, sorry.
nubbins`: can i just get a clear answer on one thing: are people who ordered the "400 gigahash mining unit" receiving 400GH/s+ at 400W, regardless of the form it takes?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah they did.
mircea_popescu: it was about 290w or something like that,
nubbins`: any arguments to the contrary?
mircea_popescu: and as far as anyone kniows they'll get refurbished later to double performance or some shit
nubbins`: well, refurbs aren't relevant to this bet, although that'd be great news for the owners
nubbins`: okay, so everyone seems to have gone silent, which i guess means that people who ordered "400 gigahash mining units" received 400GH/s+ at <= 400W
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nubbins`: so what's the big fucking problem?
nubbins`: or are we just flapping our gums at each other
mircea_popescu: it wasn't packed right, basically.
mircea_popescu: which has some merits, but how far are you going to go.
nubbins`: cry me a river
mircea_popescu: eventually someone in samoa is going to say some miner is not according to obscure samoan law thus undelivered thus bet is a clear no.
mircea_popescu: and i'm looking at you jcpham
fractal_: the bet specifically states that the form of the 400Gh must be in a single unit. It is not. they missed on performance. the bet is therefore a no.
nubbins`: no it doesn't
nubbins`: quote the part where it says that
fractal_: 400Gh UNIT 400W
fractal_: unit == 1 miner
fractal_: as advertised
nubbins`: sorry, no
fractal_: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ this is what the 400Gh UNIT was advertsied as
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fractal_: this unit, as advertised, did not meet performance specs
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nubbins`: when you get a big mac combo, is it not a meal because it's not all smashed together?
fractal_: nubbins: if the bet says you must get 400ml of coffee in your cup, and you get 2 cups with 500ml, they bet is a no.
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nubbins`: but the bet doesn't say "in your cup"
nubbins`: it just states an amount of coffee
fractal_: 400ML in a cup @ 140degrees F
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fractal_: 400Gh UNIT
Duffer1: ThickAsThieves if I buy one xbond will that allow me to buy as many pre-ipvo shares as I can get my hands on, or do I have to redeem 1 xbond per neobee?
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fractal_: the word unit is specifically written there
nubbins`: yeah, you keep saying the word unit
fractal_: and a unit is advertised here http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/
fractal_: this unit, as advertised, doesn't do 400Gh
fractal_: the bet required the hardware to meet performance as advertised. it didn't
nubbins`: i thought you had a valid beef, but you're just squabbling over semantics because you lost money
nubbins`: grow up
nubbins`: lel @ fractal sobbing over a free upgrade
fractal_: its not semantics, its actual logical language
fractal_: the joke isn't on me, its on everyone disagreeing
fractal_: the fact is that the language , as written, requires a 400Gh UNIT to exist
fractal_: as advertised
nubbins`: i renovated my bathroom last month, and i purchased a new shower unit
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nubbins`: (no joke)
nubbins`: the unit consisted of a tub and a tub surround
nubbins`: sometimes "units" have more than one item
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how much is anduck paying you btw ?
fractal_: nubbins`: then that is the unit as advertised..... the unit as advertised here was 1M-board, 1R-pi, and 16 H-cards
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i can get paid to do this??!?!
nubbins`: jesus
fractal_: <pankakke> i dare you to come in here every day and complain. <--- challenge accepted
nubbins`: talk about a wasted life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00113 = 0.0113 BTC [+]
pankkake: nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240677.0 received zero valid offers, so my guess is no, you can't
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i hear there's a ~5btc budget.
nubbins`: pretty deep pockets for ~11BTC in losing bets
mircea_popescu: it's in the scrollback.
nubbins`: anyway, a "unit" is obviously whatever they're selling as "a unit"
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 6 @ 0.000581 = 0.0035 BTC [+]
nubbins`: if they want to include a free baseball card, well, each unit comes with a baseball card
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 50 @ 0.00113998 = 0.057 BTC [+]
fractal_: nubbins`: and this is what they're selling as a unit --> http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00114 = 0.0114 BTC [+]
fractal_: nubbins`: according to bitbet rules, the timestamp of the bet is what is advertsied -- it can't be changed after the fact.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 21 @ 0.00058 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
fractal_: so adding more hardware doesn't apply
nubbins`: you make a convincing argument, but the bet doesn't mention anything about the components included
nubbins`: it only mentions performance, which was delivered upon
nubbins`: whoever made the bet should have been more specific, i guess
fractal_: nubbins`: it wasn't though. the 400Gh unit , as advertised, only does 365Gh.
fractal_: that they shipped more hardware is irrelevant
fractal_: i placed the bet because i didn't think the hardware was going to perform as advertised -- and it didn't
fractal_: i got robbed
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003804 = 0.038 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 258 @ 0.003803 = 0.9812 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 338 @ 0.003801 = 1.2847 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 94 @ 0.0038 = 0.3572 BTC [-]
nubbins`: well, it's relevant in that they delivered on all specs that were in the bet
fractal_: no they didn't
mircea_popescu: if indeed that's the case you'd have been much better served by making a "The Bitfury strikes back 400gh/s unit will not exist as the 16 boards together will hash under 400gh/s"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 377 @ 0.003804 = 1.4341 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 258 @ 0.003803 = 0.9812 BTC [-]
fractal_: the 400Gh unit wasn't 400Gh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1251 @ 0.0038 = 4.7538 BTC [-]
nubbins`: you didn't get robbed, you misjudged their ability to deliver a certain GH/s for a certain W
fractal_: mp: i should have done that in hindsight , of course
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003787 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
fractal_: nubbins`: no, i was correct in that the 400Gh unit would not hash at 400Gh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.003786 = 0.1969 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 27 @ 0.003781 = 0.1021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.00378 = 0.0832 BTC [-]
nubbins`: no, you weren't
fractal_: which was a performance requirement
nubbins`: that's what i'm saying
fractal_: i was. thats what im saying
mircea_popescu: this is imo the most important takeaway here : rather than hang your bet on some technicality, just make a new one in which your point of interest is substantially the bet.
nubbins`: yeah
fractal_: the unit must be > 400Gh, and < 400W.. the unit did not meet this performance spec
fractal_: the bet is therefore a no
nubbins`: really poorly worded bet was the root of all this trouble
nubbins`: if you lost money because you bet on a poorly worded bet, well, nobody feels sorry for you
mircea_popescu: nubbins` they're always and perpetually going to be poorly worded.
fractal_: yes, i would agree that the bullshit bet was poorly worded bullshit and i shouldn't have bet
mircea_popescu: this because reality surprises, which is a good thing overall.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: and so forever, nobody will weep for those who lost
fractal_: if i knew that the decider was going to not follow logic
nubbins`: i'm ok with this
nubbins`: no, everyone is following logic
nubbins`: you're just being fussy
nubbins`: you'll never admit it, but you are
fractal_: theres no room for substantially delivered == delivered
fractal_: theres either true or false
fractal_: substantially delivered != delivered
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.172 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: are you tall or s hort ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.172 = 4.344 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.171 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.142 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.141 = 4.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.136 BTC [-]
fractal_: ok i gotta run
nubbins`: i agree there, substantially != absolutely
nubbins`: however
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.136 = 4.272 BTC [-]
nubbins`: the word "substantially" doesn't even belong there
nubbins`: the bet was delivered upon, full stop
fractal_: no. it wasn't.
nubbins`: any issues, get some tissues
fractal_: well the issue is fraud
nubbins`: i thought you had to run
fractal_: so its not tissues, its an aweareness campaign for people to stay away from BitBet
nubbins`: fraud! lel
nubbins`: it's an awareness campaign to stay away from anything you're involved in
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002469 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
pankkake: "Will MT. GOX be trading Litecoin as a currency before the end of 2013? " why was this rejected? I don't how it is unverifiable
fractal_: only fools grab tissues
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00088745 = 4.6147 BTC [-]
nubbins`: people already stay away from bitbet
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.1036 = 0.2072 BTC [-]
fractal_: pankkake: because you're an idiot
fractal_: nubbins`: obviously not enough of they stay away
mircea_popescu: pankkake basically someone knows how it will come out
mircea_popescu: you can't bet on shit lioke that.
fractal_: mp: pankkake isn't very smart, and wants to add more bad bets to bitbet, so that there are more problems like the one that just happened with bitfury....
nubbins`: name calling isn't nice
fractal_: so he can troll on the forums when the bet gets disputed
fractal_: nubbins`: tell that to Luke-Jr , who called me a theif.
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: calling names isn't nice
fractal_: hahaha thanks
nubbins`: always the voice of reason
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: that's not a name, it's a noun
pankkake: mircea_popescu: what do you mean, someone at mtgox knows? does it matter?
fractal_: at least you're neutral
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: it's not even a word
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the misspelling was fractal_'s
mircea_popescu: pankkake well to me it reads like a variant of "I will publish the number 15 on my website by end of year".
nubbins`: I before E except after C
mircea_popescu: why's this even a bet ?
nubbins`: and except after all those other instances
nubbins`: Luke-Jr: i figured ;(
pankkake: well it's more than that, it's actually having the possibility to buy litecoins with it
nubbins`: add something about volume to the wording
fractal_: nubbins`: Luke-Jr is quite the hypocrite, pull up logs from 2 months ago regarding him and namecoin, you'll see he became corrupted by money.... very sad from someone who preaches about morals all day.
nubbins`: gox will have a daily volume of xyz in LTC by the end of 2013
fractal_: Luke-Jr likes to pass judgement on others, but ignores his own sings
Luke-Jr: pankkake: Try "Will someone successfully obtain fiat currency in a traditional bank transferred from MtGox, from selling Litecoins on MtGox, before 2014?"
fractal_: sins
nubbins`: fractal_: i don't care and that's not relevant. who taught you how to argue?
Luke-Jr: fractal_: as I already said, Namecoin changed
fractal_: i'm l33t. im a layw3r
nubbins`: i don't give a red fuck if someone's "corrupted by money" or what their morals are
fractal_: Luke-Jr: the blockchain data didn't
pankkake: Luke-Jr: that's better, but then no one will bet on that :p
Luke-Jr: fractal_: you're assuming we store it
fractal_: nubbins`: yes, but Luke-Jr cares, because he passes judgement on others and ignores his own sins....
nubbins`: fractal_: okay, lovely, but why do you tell me this?
fractal_: i'd suggest that Luke-Jr pray forgiveness for his sins before passing judgement on others
mircea_popescu: pankkake i made the mistake of querying the mod that did it. here you go : "because wtf is mtgox already! look they've been announcing ltc for like a year. it's a dying dog saying it's going to start eating rabbits, i'm not taking bets on whether it actually does. besides, they're a known group of scammers and liars, what's to keep them from fronting ltc trades? and then obviously even if they did manage to implement t
mircea_popescu: he thing, "you can only trade with an anal probe" well is it implemented or not?"
fractal_: gotta run... we'll have to continue the trollfest later....
nubbins`: no, don't go
nubbins`: honestly, young adults these days
mircea_popescu: mostly to put things in perspective.
mircea_popescu: the amount of sheer psychotic paranoia on the part of bitbet mods is quite the thing to gaze upon
mircea_popescu: and yet...
nubbins`: <fractal_> nubbins`: yes, but Luke-Jr cares, because he passes judgement on others and ignores his own sins....
nubbins`: as if we're supposed to gasp and point
nubbins`: smash a stone tablet or something
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00114 = 0.1767 BTC [+]
nubbins`: man, deal coin is all over the place
nubbins`: it's gotta suck to buy ipo shares and see them being traded at 0.6x par three days later
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i think it's a good lesson really.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing for all the pro conment to be startying "asic miners"
mircea_popescu: it's another for every two bit kid with a modem to be doing the same.
mircea_popescu: at least this way they learn they have to take losses in the process.
nubbins`: well, i'm not sure how much learning takes place
benkay: infinite idiots problem
nubbins`: i've got some ideas about an e-ink based hardware wallet that i haven't fully thought through, maybe i could collect 600 BTC in an ipo as well
nubbins`: spend 20 minutes making a website
nubbins`: geocities is gone, right?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002469 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00088589 = 2.6577 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 3 @ 0.000243 = 0.0007 BTC [+]
ozbot: Using the Kobo Mini eReader as a dynamic (BIP0032) Bitcoin tip jar
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.000645 = 0.0019 BTC [+]
nubbins`: yeah, just saw that, coincidentally
nubbins`: but those e-ink displays are cheap
nubbins`: CHEAP
nubbins`: and you could make hardware wallets WAY less complicated than the trezor
nubbins`: no need for usb cables or any of that risky shit
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 12 @ 0.000561 = 0.0067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 10 @ 0.00056 = 0.0056 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 80 @ 0.000551 = 0.0441 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can see collecting a few hundred btc for making a hardware wallet if you can convince you know wtf you're doing.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000516 BTC [-]
nubbins`: oh, i've got it all figured out, and it's brilliantly simple. i just don't have any contacts with the hardware know-how.
nubbins`: it's so simple that i'm surprised it hasn't been done already
nubbins`: and instead people are fucking with usb cables
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 101 @ 0.009884 = 0.9983 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 101 @ 0.00241 = 0.2434 BTC [-]
nubbins`: problem is, you try to IPO the idea, and someone with hardware know-how just implements the idea before you get everything in place
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 101 @ 0.01209 = 1.2211 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
mircea_popescu: so find someone with the hardware know how to help you and ipo after.
nubbins`: yeah, you'd have a hard time convincing someone with the know-how to get on board without already being stacked with cash
mircea_popescu: this is where your own personal credentials get to play.
nubbins`: well, easy for you to say
mircea_popescu: but someone earlier was like they don't care about respek
mircea_popescu: well... it matters, at the very least because it resolves this catch 22 situation.
nubbins`: anyway, it could just as easily be implemented in a static web page with a couple lines of javascript
nubbins`: it's just that having a hardware version would be cute
nubbins`: and we know how people feel about cute things
mircea_popescu: talk to a chinese vibrator manufacturer then
nubbins`: besides, you can't fit a smartphone on your keychain
nubbins`: cheapie e-ink displays, on the other hand
nubbins`: supermarkets are already using them for live-updated price tags on shelves
nubbins`: the beauty is that they don't even need any sort of net connectivity
nubbins`: no physical connectivity at all, aside from your own PC at home
benkay: mircea_popescu: browser as universal runtime
benkay: mircea_popescu: COME ON
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02025 = 0.2025 BTC [+]
benkay: 5 dollar roll-to-roll printed smart phones are coming (eventually)
benkay: javascript and html can be super light if done correctly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02025 = 0.2025 BTC [+]
nubbins`: even a web browser is pretty heavy for this sort of thing
nubbins`: all you really need is the ability to display images and do some math
mircea_popescu: nubbins` he was referencing some earlier discussion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 13 @ 0.001145 = 0.0149 BTC [+]
nubbins`: you mean it's not all about me? ;p
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.1094 = 0.6564 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 31 @ 0.1095 = 3.3945 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1122 = 0.2244 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1188 = 0.2376 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.197 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: spain or italy next ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003962 = 0.0792 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003963 = 0.0396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003965 = 0.0397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 372 @ 0.003974 = 1.4783 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 372 @ 0.003976 = 1.4791 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 363 @ 0.003989 = 1.448 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.00399 = 0.9975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 324 @ 0.003996 = 1.2947 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 283 @ 0.003996 = 1.1309 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 141 @ 0.003999 = 0.5639 BTC [+]
Namworld: If they can get away with it somewhere, they'll start doing it elsewhere.
Namworld: and keep doing it more and more until they can no longer get away with it
mircea_popescu: there's a good example. the polish government just stole ~100bn dollars worth of private pensions
mircea_popescu: because people having their own private pensions makes it pretty impossible for the state flytrap to borrow as nobody credits them
Namworld: By my estimates, that should occur somewhere between people left with 5% of their wealth and people being officially enslaved.
Namworld: Like they need to borrow more. If they can't function without constantly borrowing more...
mircea_popescu: the best part ? "While the funds won’t be allowed to buy government bonds, they’ll be able to buy more corporate debt and will be freed from having to comply with performance benchmarks, according to comments from the labor and finance ministers."
mircea_popescu: so basically... now that it's state run it may be bankrupt.
mircea_popescu: puts any sort of statal proceeding against the free world on the very uneasy footing of "we know you're thieves"
lolstate: !seen ThickAsThieves
lolstate: ; seen ThickAsThieves
lolstate: ;; ThickAsThieves
gribble: Error: "ThickAsThieves" is not a valid command.
lolstate: ;; seen ThickAsThieves
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> all companies are a scam, cuz like 99% of them go out of business someday
Duffer1: hehe
lolstate: Any thoughts on the Neo & Bee IPO?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003403 = 0.017 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 145 @ 0.003402 = 0.4933 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02099 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.237 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.237 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.238 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.238 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.239 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.09423 = 0.6596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003995 = 0.0879 BTC [-]
nubbins`: anyone ever used alibaba?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003996 = 0.024 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nope. it's a thing tho, like ebay.
mircea_popescu: perhaps with more scammers on.
nubbins`: yeah, just browsing now
nubbins`: i think with even low quantity (5-10k units) i can get these HW wallets made insanely cheap
nubbins`: like retail for < 0.1 BTC
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of jeff goldblum in the fly, "i'm more like a supply chain manager"
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.09432 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 176 @ 0.00241 = 0.4242 BTC [-]
nubbins`: if you haven't seen a mutated, melting jeff goldblum whimpering "kill me", you haven't seen jeff goldblum
nubbins`: anyway, time for a beach fire
mircea_popescu: "I farm bits and pieces out to the guys who are much more brilliant than I am. I say, "build me a laser", this. "Design me a molecular analyzer", that. They do, and I just stick 'em together. But, none of them know what the project really is. So..."
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003477 = 0.0174 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5 @ 0.001145 = 0.0057 BTC [+]
benkay: i am very curious about those raw asic chips all over alibaba
benkay: data is hard to come by in the asic mining space.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 28 @ 0.003477 = 0.0974 BTC [+]
jurov: i finally bought decent gpu.. not to mine but to play eve lmao
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 79 @ 0.01209 = 0.9551 BTC [-]
jurov: had only onboard radeon 55xx.. it was playable but reacted slowly, sucked at combat
jurov: with 7790 it's smooth at high setting
pankkake: did buying nvidia cross your mind? ;)
jurov: figured it would be easier to upgrade.. and what if i change my mind on mining? xD
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02042 = 0.2042 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02041 = 0.0816 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.0204 = 0.4488 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i never used anything but nvidia.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02026 = 0.0405 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02025 = 0.2633 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0202 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02002 = 0.6006 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: since about 1998 or so
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.02002 = 0.7608 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]
pankkake: as it's a sunk cost, it would make sense to mine (unless electricity price is too high of course)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000642 BTC [+]
pankkake: I left nvidia as soon as I could (decent open source drivers)
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.001145 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+]
jurov: afaik the opensource ati driver is more advanced than nvidia
jurov: but maybe rms had in mind sometihng else
pankkake: well that's pretty normal. the ati one has paid amd devs behind it and they release specs
pankkake: oh, that rms picture is very old
pankkake: things changed a lot since then
pankkake: nivida does not release code or specs
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 497 @ 0.00247 = 1.2276 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake i wonder if it was typeset with latex
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 13 @ 0.00247 = 0.0321 BTC [+]
pankkake: why? :o
mircea_popescu: just so lol
mircea_popescu: and for our daily plato read,
mircea_popescu: the earth, as being their mother, delivered them, and now, as if their land were their mother and their nurse, they ought to take thought for her and defend her against any attack, and regard the other citizens as their brothers and children of the self-same earth. . . While all of you, in the city, are brothers, we will say in our tale, yet god, in fashioning those of you who are fitted to hold rule, mingled gold in t
mircea_popescu: heir generation, for which reason they are the most precious — but in the helpers, silver, and iron and brass in the farmers and other craftsmen. And, as you are all akin, though for the most part you will breed after your kinds, it may sometimes happen that a golden father would beget a silver son, and that a golden offspring would come from a silver sire, and that the rest would, in like manner, be born of one anot
mircea_popescu: her. So that the first and chief injunction that the god lays upon the rulers is that of nothing else are they to be such careful guardians, and so intently observant as of the intermixture of these metals in the souls of their offspring, and if sons are born to them with an infusion of brass or iron they shall by no means give way to pity in their treatment of them, but shall assign to each the status due to his natur
mircea_popescu: e and thrust them out among the artisans or the farmers. And again, if from these there is born a son with unexpected gold or silver in his composition they shall honor such and bid them go up higher, some to the office of guardian, some to the assistanceship, alleging that there is an oracle that the city shall then be overthrown when the man of iron or brass is its guardian.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0008012 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 53 @ 0.002479 = 0.1314 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.002479 = 0.124 BTC [+]
jurov: now only if we had densitometer for characters
jurov: or densimeter
jurov: lol "dense character" would be a compliment in plato's eyes then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00088649 = 0.8865 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol ya. "hey pal, you're fucken dense"
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.003478 = 0.3339 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 98 @ 0.003477 = 0.3407 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 652 @ 0.003479 = 2.2683 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 98 @ 0.003479 = 0.3409 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00088794 = 1.9979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001145 = 0.1145 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.00248 = 0.0124 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1185 @ 0.00114 = 1.3509 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 20 @ 0.01209 = 0.2418 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.000642 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00248 = 0.248 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.00248 = 0.124 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 22 @ 0.000642 = 0.0141 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 97 @ 0.002489 = 0.2414 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 358 @ 0.00248 = 0.8878 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 34 @ 0.00248 = 0.0843 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.003479 = 1.7395 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.00241 = 0.0241 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 3 @ 0.01209 = 0.0363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003995 = 0.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 95 @ 0.003996 = 0.3796 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 150 @ 0.003996 = 0.5994 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02087 = 0.2087 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00088649 = 4.8757 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02087 = 0.2087 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02087 = 0.1044 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003423 = 0.0685 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003422 = 0.0171 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 907 @ 0.00341 = 3.0929 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.01 = 0.14 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0024 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003996 = 0.0879 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 477 @ 0.003996 = 1.9061 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 208 @ 0.003411 = 0.7095 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.00341 = 0.3274 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 30 @ 0.01209 = 0.3627 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 222 @ 0.002499 = 0.5548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 140 @ 0.0025 = 0.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.02085 = 0.5213 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 103 @ 0.02086 = 2.1486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00088649 = 3.3687 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: is it me or has bitcointalk pretty much degenerated into five scammers talking to each other through > 100 sockpuppets ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 2 @ 0.6598 = 1.3196 BTC [-]
tyrion70: which 5 are those?
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.6599 = 3.9594 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well that's an arbitrary determination, you can name them alpha, bravo, cunt, delta and echo
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 1.118 BTC [-]
tyrion70: hehe
tyrion70: *wonders who cunt is.. haven't seen charlie for a while :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.001091 = 1.7456 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.00109 = 0.3815 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00108 = 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 50 @ 0.00107 = 0.0535 BTC [-]
tyrion70: what do u make of these 200TH ups and downs the last few days
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 47 @ 0.00253 = 0.1189 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.002579 = 0.2579 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 150 @ 0.002753 = 0.413 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 160 @ 0.002754 = 0.4406 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 79 @ 0.0028 = 0.2212 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0028 = 0.07 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 41 @ 0.0028 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00295 = 0.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 510 @ 0.002985 = 1.5224 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 16 @ 0.002999 = 0.048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 73 @ 0.00306 = 0.2234 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 48 @ 0.0031 = 0.1488 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0031 = 0.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 11 @ 0.0031 = 0.0341 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1000 @ 0.00315 = 3.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 393 @ 0.00319 = 1.2537 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.0032 = 0.096 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [+]
wogwog: after reading this thread, i think i can safely say I won't be using BitBet again
ozbot: BitBet incorrectly declares yes to a no bet. Stay Away from BitBet!
wogwog: wow. can't belive they totally scammed the no betters on that one... it clearly should have been a no
wogwog: also, is it true that Anduck bribed bitbet for them to vote yes?
pankkake: you're bad
Anduck: what?
pankkake: so bad
Anduck: wogwog: yes
pankkake: 0/10
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 1.015 = 2.03 BTC [-]
Anduck: what the duck is problem with these guys? it was about delivering and they delivered!! and they delivered the advertised hashrate at advertised performance. end of
mircea_popescu: here's a tip you wannabe you : next time you want to sock, use a different https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_79.129.41.134
pankkake: not even able to change his ip
mircea_popescu: honeypotted ip than the one you normally log from.
mircea_popescu: Anduck basically it's some btc noob trying his "i can do anything" muscles.
wogwog: my nick in the thread is 'Luke-Jr'
mircea_popescu: Sep 07 02:12:05 <gribble>Nick 'fractal', with hostmask 'fractal!4f812986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.41.134', is not identified.
wogwog: i'll personally keep posting to that thread... i suggest you guys keep posting too, the more it gets bumped to the top of the gambling forum the better, more exposure so that innocent betters will be saved
wogwog: mp: can't belive you spent time looking up my ip. it was obvious from the first 3 messages
wogwog: lol
wogwog: derp.
Anduck: why dont you use the nick "fractal" we all know
mircea_popescu: Anduck because he's a junior in psychology and that's what the book of reversal says
Anduck: fine...
Luke-Jr: look up IP? it says right there when you join..
Luke-Jr: [22:16:24] --> wogwog has joined this channel (4f812986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.41.134).
wogwog: Anduck: because i use a different nick every time i log in here. also, i have respected identities in the bitcoin community. and dont need to ruin them with trollfests and conspiracy theories
pankkake: wogwog: any respected client (i.e. no web irc crap) shows hostmasks of people who join
Luke-Jr: so you admit this is a trollfest and conspiracy theory.
wogwog: Luke-Jr: the trollfest is not me. its the yes betters and yourself
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr he doesn't know that cause webirc doesn't show em iirc
tyrion70: *opens the popcorn*
wogwog: Luke-Jr: you've clearly been trolling me since its totally illogical for you to think that 2 units == 1 unit
wogwog: only a troll would try to convince people that 2 units == 1 unit
Anduck: wogwog: nobody ever said 1 unit = 1 m-board with 16 hboards!!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
Anduck: no no no no no
wogwog: Anduck: punin did.
Anduck: well uhh did not
wogwog: yes he did
wogwog: check the forum post
pankkake: actually it is irrelevant
wogwog: he called the 400Gh unit a unit
wogwog: said it underperforms
wogwog: and he'd have to ship out more hardware
Anduck: dude you tried to get easy money by betting on a result you "knew" and were 100% sure. and you failed.. and now you whine, right?
tyrion70: *enjoys the deja ecrit*
wogwog: no. i'm spreading the truth. that the bet was fraudlenty passed as yes
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0206 = 1.03 BTC [-]
wogwog: it did not meet performance stats
Luke-Jr: Anduck: he must be trying to set a record for most epic fail
pankkake: but what is relevant, about this discussion: http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/no.gif
wogwog: Luke-Jr: the only epic fail is that you can't read. you think 2 units == 1 unit
mircea_popescu: wogwog you srsly don't need to worry, nobody respects noagendamarket/etc either.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0206 = 0.1854 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 300 @ 0.0206 = 6.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6345 @ 0.00088737 = 5.6304 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00088794 = 3.3742 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.008201 = 0.0246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.000888 = 3.5964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 699 @ 0.00088829 = 0.6209 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 260 @ 0.00109999 = 0.286 BTC [+]
Anduck: wogwog: unit can be a group of units
Anduck: wogwog: you need to read the whole thread you started. it's got pretty valid points there
wogwog: pankkake: you're pretty bad at not feeding the troll
jurov: if punin really limited the unit to 1 m-board with 16 hboards, he'd ship it that way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2630 @ 0.0011 = 2.893 BTC [+]
wogwog: pankkake: you think that thread is a troll, but you keep posting
wogwog: lol
jurov: but he did not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [+]
wogwog: truth is you know its not a troll. its logic.
pankkake: yeah my posting call for ignoring your antics
wogwog: jurov: the 400Gh unit does not exist.
jurov: neither does your 1 m-board with 16 hboards
jurov: you can't order it
wogwog: jurov: yes you can order it
wogwog: pankkake: too bad you were outed as a paid shrill/troll
Anduck: wogwog: but seriously. you lost the bet, deal with it. think about it like you tried to get advantage of the wording of the bet and failed. http://www.wallchan.com/images/mediums/30784.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1193 = 0.2386 BTC [-]
pankkake: wogwog: there is nothing to "out" as it's public
jurov: wogwog: so do order it and then demostrate the hw you got does not match advertised performance
mircea_popescu: pankkake anyone actually paid you yet ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1193 = 0.2386 BTC [-]
wogwog_: Anduck. I didn't bet. I'm just defending the NO side.
pankkake: mircea_popescu: no :(
wogwog_: You've just assumed that I bet.
pankkake: but I don't get anything I can actually fullfil
mircea_popescu: you suck!
dexX7: yesterday i asked about how much you invested and you mentioned that it's negatable, thus i believe your goal is not to be reimbursed, so i ask: what is your goal? being annoying as much as you can?
pankkake: my dream of getting paid to insult people isn't working
mircea_popescu: all the other trolls out there are making five figures out of dorking it out on the webs all day
mircea_popescu: /sarcasm
pankkake: paid shills on the internet are a fact though. the European Union got caught doing it
mircea_popescu: pankkake supposedly making money spamming is also a fact. tenouous as it may sound.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless most spammers do it for something between free and nothing at all.
pankkake: paid papers published too - I knew a guy who did that. what he wrote wasn't *wrong* though, nor lies
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1193 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00088649 = 3.28 BTC [-]
wogwog_: dexX7: my goal is that people acknowledge that the bet was incorrectly labelled yes. the 400Gh unit only does 365Gh. it did not meet advertised performance. the bet is a no.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9616 @ 0.00088589 = 8.5187 BTC [-]
pankkake: I wouldn't do something I would consider unethical (like spamming, lying)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00088585 = 2.9233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284 @ 0.00088452 = 0.2512 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: just sayin', the things that anyone can do aren't usually paid.
wogwog_: by the way, i'm not integrty42. tho i'm glad someone made a forum post regarding this........
dexX7: but you do realize that coming here with different nicks and starting hate threads on btctalk is probably not the best way to achive this goal?
pankkake: sure
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1194 = 0.2388 BTC [+]
pankkake: it's a question of time, that's what I tried to advertise in my offer: some guy is dumb on the internet and you're busy? here I am!
pankkake: and there's chances I will not rage while he will
mircea_popescu: pankkake but he's too raged out to realise this.
wogwog_: dexX7: this is all noise -- as long as the facts are laid out -- the unit did not perform as advertised -- thats what matters
mircea_popescu: why do you think people "invest" their own bitdust, and do their own plumbing ?
wogwog_: pankkake is more enraged then i am.
wogwog_: pankkake loves me and the thread. i am his reason for living.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.0011 = 0.099 BTC [+]
pankkake: investing bitdust is fun - to a point, now it's wasting my time
pankkake: wogwog_: I have like 10 average continuous trollings in my life
wogwog_: pankkake: the second you replied to a thing i said, you wasted your time.... you'll never get it back
pankkake: I'm guilty of doing my own plumbing, too, I'm a thinkerer
wogwog_: pankkake: lets talk about that for a minute. think of the time you wasted because of me.... just think about it. you could have spent it reading a book, bettering yourself... enjoying the outdoors, getting laid...... yet. you spent it on me.
mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes. people start a game of mudbitcoin, it's fun cause it's so wtf. that last a while, then it wears off, then they lose interest.
wogwog_: thats a pretty powerful connection we have, the two of us
Anduck: wogwog_: but in the thread you said you bet no and lost????
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1196 BTC [+]
Anduck: wogwog_: since after all, you _are_ fractal and the starter of the thread
pankkake: wogwog_: my activity is high right now because I have free time to do only dumb things, sadly
wogwog_: wogwog_: i'm not integrtiy42... i told you.
pankkake: I'd rather write code but can't
Anduck: wogwog_: but you are?
wogwog_: Anduck: nope
Anduck: but you are?
wogwog_: nope
Anduck: ...but you are
wogwog_: nope
Anduck: dude you ARE
wogwog_: nope
Anduck: you talk like him and you have same statements
Anduck: dooont lie
wogwog_: nope
pankkake: but fractal is integrity42
pankkake: and you're fractal
pankkake: logic!
wogwog_: nope
pankkake: defeat!
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0209 BTC [+]
wogwog_: Anduck: if someone uses the same statements as me, they must have been reading this chat, and think that i have good points to make.
wogwog_: not surprising,
dexX7: wogwog_: more: the bet stated "Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W)" and not "25 GH/s PER unit 40W" => unit is not used as measuring unit, but as label (e.g. "the product "25 gh/s miner" has to perform at > 25 gh/s & < 1 w / gh/s")
mircea_popescu: we should make a bet on fractal's bet site as to whether bitcoin.oz using the same ip as wogwog and fractal makes it the same unit or not.
wogwog_: dexX7: the 25GH unit performed as advertised, since they could add another H-card... but that isnt possible with the 400Gh unit
wogwog_: dexX7: the 25Gh unit passed!
wogwog_: if the bet was 25Gh unit, it was a yes
dexX7: it's not about the cards
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02095 = 0.0419 BTC [+]
wogwog_: dexX7: its about the definition of the term 'unit'
dexX7: correct
Anduck: wogwog_: so you want to change the bet "bitfury will ship on time and deliver the performance they said" to "no" because of wording or definition of "unit" ?
Anduck: duuuude
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 15 @ 0.00406 = 0.0609 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02095 BTC [+]
pankkake: the best that could have happened is a cancellation
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.1196 = 1.0764 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1193 BTC [-]
dexX7: wogwog_: "400 GH/s unit 400W" what does that mean in a simple sentence?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003474 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
wogwog_: dexX7: it means the unit must be over 400Gh and under 400W
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C101N] 5 @ 0.64848614 = 3.2424 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.00406 = 0.0162 BTC [+]
wogwog_: it wasn't over 400Gh. it was 365Gh
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P101N] 5 @ 0.53553951 = 2.6777 BTC [-]
wogwog_: theres a picture of the unit on the thread. go look with your eyes. thats what a unit is
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
dexX7: which unit?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9 @ 0.003474 = 0.0313 BTC [+]
dexX7: could it be that "400 gh/s unit" is the product?
Anduck: pankkake: there was no reason for cancellation.. that or "no" would've been just wrong.
wogwog_: this unit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3050985#msg3050985
Anduck: says you.
dexX7: aha
wogwog_: Anduck: no. says punin.
pankkake: Anduck: the reason "fractal would shut up" would be enough IMHO :p
wogwog_: Anduck: out of punins mouth "We can't deliver 400Gh in 1 unit" -- paraphrase
wogwog_: his quote is on the thread
pankkake: I'm saying the *best* in the sense of fractal, not mine - I think it's a No
pankkake: I mean Yes
pankkake: fuck
Anduck: hmmm
wogwog_: guys, punin himself admitted the '400Gh unit' doesn't do 400Gh... i dont know what else to say....
Anduck: but really betting at a bitbet because of "knowing the outcome" and in the thoughts of "easy 100% sure money".... lol
mircea_popescu: well that often doesn't pan out.
mircea_popescu: it's more likely for the subject to have misunderstood something than for the entire world to have.
wogwog_: Anduck: I didn't know the outcome. punin could have fixed the 400Gh unit and shipped it by sept 1.
wogwog_: and I would have lost
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00088452 = 5.8378 BTC [-]
Anduck: if he says "our h-cards are underperforming.".................
Anduck: and you expect that there might be a fix for that coming in 5 days or so?
Anduck: dude admit it
Anduck: you tried to benefit it
wogwog_: Anduck: he said the 400Gh unit doesn't do 400Gh.
Anduck: he said 16 h-cards don't do it
wogwog_: Anduck: if its just a resistor to change , then its easy to fix and ship in 5 days
Anduck: (which, btw now do 380 or 375 ghash already)
wogwog_: or maybe even a software firmware issue
Anduck: wogwog_: it's not really easy change.....
wogwog_: 380 < 400
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.0025 = 0.005 BTC [-]
Anduck: thousands of boards and the changing of the resistor is hard
Anduck: plus it ducks up the efficiency part a bit
Anduck: they're made to be as energy efficient as possible
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [+]
wogwog_: Anduck: regardless, its possible, which means i didn't know the outcome. they only had to fix and ship 1 to for the bet to be a yes. although at least i think that you are starting to admit that a unit is 1M-board
wogwog_: Anduck: also, bitbet says that bets aren't cancelled even if it becomes impossible to win. its in the FAQ.
wogwog_: Anduck: so you take that risk when betting
Anduck: yeah yeah
Anduck: but since you dont even admit of being the starter of the thread...
Anduck: and i've made clear what i think a unit means....
Anduck: it's really not worth the discussion, right?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.01209 = 1.209 BTC [-]
wogwog_: if you don't think so, feel free to stop discussing
wogwog_: hopefully punin will clearly define what a 'unit' is and put this to rest
wogwog_: i'll be monitoring the thread for that.
Luke-Jr: punin's definition of a unit has no bearing on the bet
wogwog_: haha pankkake keeps posting in that thread... he thinkts the thread is a troll, but he keeps posting
pankkake: I don't understand your point
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003917 = 0.047 BTC [-]
wogwog_: Luke-Jr: it does, because he is bitfurystrikesback.com , which is where the performance of the unit was advertised -- and the bet states it must follow the advertised performance
wogwog_: Luke-Jr: read english
Luke-Jr: performance, not "unit definition"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003916 = 0.047 BTC [-]
wogwog_: performance of the unit...
wogwog_: which is 1M-board
Luke-Jr: the bet did not define it as a 1M-board
wogwog_: but the website did
Luke-Jr: the website is not part of the bet
wogwog_: which is why the bet says 'as advertsied'
dexX7: no, you did
wogwog_: yes it is!!!!! lol
wogwog_: read the bet
mircea_popescu: i hope fractal makes the 0% site so i can make a bet about which bitbet bet will next take up all the fucking chan space on -assets.
wogwog_: Bitfurystrikesback.com (Bitfury EU reseller) will ship their 25 and 400 gigahash mining units before 1st of September 2013. Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) in order to be accepted as valid. Atleast 5 deliveries confirmed by respected members of the community required.
wogwog_: 'must meet advertised performance' and 400Gh UNIT
wogwog_: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/
wogwog_: which is this
Luke-Jr: wogwog_: go back the the dictionary
wogwog_: damn Luke-Jr , i thought you could read man
Luke-Jr: that link does not use the term "unit" anywhere
wogwog_: miner == unit
Luke-Jr: that's not what my dictionary says
wogwog_: thats what the bet says
Luke-Jr: nope
wogwog_: Luke-Jr: yes.
pankkake: the only good thing a dictionnary would be for now is bashing wogwog's head
wogwog_: man, its funny, you guys think i'm trolling.... but if i was, you keep feeding the troll. why not just admit you're wrong?
Luke-Jr: the bet did not define "unit" at all
Luke-Jr: it simply said that the 400 Gh must be 400 W or better
wogwog_: pankkake: thats not nice. you're not a nice person.
wogwog_: pankkake: that statement proves that you're a bad person and are likely a paid shill
wogwog_: Luke-Jr: no it didn't
Luke-Jr: the term "unit" used in the bet infers that those who paid for that item got 400 Gh/s running under 400 W
Luke-Jr: they did
wogwog_: no it doesn't
Luke-Jr: does
wogwog_: does not
Luke-Jr: now stop being a retard and shut up
wogwog_: the term unit in the bet refers to this http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/
wogwog_: its right there on the forums
wogwog_: he's the one who runs the company
wogwog_: he says that the 400Gh UNIT underperforms
wogwog_: you basically can't come to terms with the fact that you're wrong. its amazing.
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 195.15803475 / 195.15803475 (4 shares, 1.65 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
wogwog_: 2 Units != 1 Unit
pankkake: wogwog_: I intend to get paid writing valid arguments, talking about dictionnaries on your head wouldn't be very good
pankkake: unless my client would want you to get MAD
Luke-Jr: pankkake: also, didn't your troll-for-hire thread say you refused to use your own identity with the trolling?
pankkake: yes, as I point repeatedly :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 38 @ 0.003916 = 0.1488 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003902 = 0.039 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: pankkake: btw, have you ever been hired to troll me?
pankkake: no, lol
Luke-Jr: surprising
pankkake: but here is a little troll: you interact with me already with another identity
Luke-Jr: I guess the people who hate me are already trolls on their own, so they don't need to hire one <.<
pankkake: (if you ever guess it, don't guess it in public, it's my real name)
Luke-Jr: lol
Anduck: wogwog?
Anduck: that would be ducked up situation right
pankkake: Yes I am Dr. Wogwog Dombalog, King of the Blululus
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0055 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0039 BTC [-]
Anduck: ohh i know the blululus guis
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8 @ 0.003474 = 0.0278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003475 = 0.0174 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003478 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 180 @ 0.003478 = 0.626 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: pankkake: did I meet you at the conference?
pankkake: no, only online
pankkake: haven't met any famous bitcoiner yet :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 2 @ 0.001875 = 0.0038 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: twist: pankkake is a gurl.
pankkake: and I usually meet as pankkake
pankkake: mircea_popescu: I wish! I would just whore myself for bitcoins
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003479 = 0.0244 BTC [+]
pankkake: Isn't mircea's a girl name?
mircea_popescu: well it's certainly becoming one these days, what with that american starlet.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise it's a thousand old male name.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003479 BTC [+]
pankkake: the -a is confusing, it usually hints female
Luke-Jr: pankkake: it's because he uses a female avatar on bitcointroll
mircea_popescu: that actually is a girl.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.009795 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.002895 = 0.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 4 @ 0.009795 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.009796 = 0.4898 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00088452 = 0.4122 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.0008842 = 4.0532 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
Namworld: Who are famous bitcoiners?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.01209 = 0.6045 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: me apparently
pankkake: haha
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002504 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002502 = 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 45 @ 0.002502 = 0.1126 BTC [-]
pankkake: well I had in mind guys behind known services/software; for example the bitcoin-central guys are living pretty close to me I think
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003412 = 0.0682 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003411 = 3.411 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 738 @ 0.003403 = 2.5114 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 308 @ 0.003402 = 1.0478 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.003381 = 0.4057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00088829 = 3.8196 BTC [+]
Anduck: u live in france?
Anduck: french always loses wars
pankkake: and love complaining
Anduck: u know france has lost like 1 war?
Anduck: =P
pankkake: won, you mean?
Anduck: but people only remembers WWII
Anduck: no, they've lost just WWII
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 607 @ 0.003361 = 2.0401 BTC [-]
Anduck: pretty much every other war they've won
Anduck: but people remembers france as a loser country
Luke-Jr: France sucks anymore
Luke-Jr: French Revolution on onward especially, France is like one of the worst countries of all time
pankkake: well, there's Algeria
pankkake: French people who are proud of Napolean disgust me
pankkake: I'd rather lose wars
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00107 = 0.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.001066 = 0.4264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001065 = 0.0213 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00106001 = 0.0106 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00106 = 0.0212 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 25 @ 0.00105501 = 0.0264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.001055 = 0.3693 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 666 @ 0.00105026 = 0.6995 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.0010501 = 0.021 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 25 @ 0.00105002 = 0.0263 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.00105001 = 0.0945 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2124 @ 0.00105 = 2.2302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3206 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 9 @ 0.002504 = 0.0225 BTC [+]
pankkake: 1 is true, 3 isn't at all and is very weird, 4 wine and cheese yes, others no
pankkake: 9 is very weird too. the only smelly people I meet are tourists and the homeless
Luke-Jr: pankkake: history aside, the laws suck bad
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: I would never live there as it is now
pankkake: I'm not really sure where to go
Luke-Jr: there is nowhere
pankkake: but we are headed for some dark times
Luke-Jr: the US is the best there is today, and it sucks pretty bad too
Luke-Jr: and if you try to make a new manmade isle, some existing governments will steal it
Luke-Jr: wish moon colonies were affordable
Luke-Jr: it'd be hard to bother us there
pankkake: I learned about the US gold confiscations, France is certainly gearing towards doing that, but there are signs in the US too - namely, preventing you from buying it anonymously
Luke-Jr: I already can't buy it anonymously, last I checked
benkay: to bitcoin, mes ami
pankkake: you can buy gold on silk road
Luke-Jr: benkay: unfortunately, governments could kill bitcoin overnight if they really wanted to
pankkake: didn't compare prices, it's likely expensive
jurov: best to buy some eastern european country
benkay: Luke-Jr: do go on.
jurov: or southern american, better climate
Luke-Jr: benkay: even with all the ASICs ordered online, it probably won't be even 0.1% of the defense budget of even small nations :/
benkay: true dat
benkay: let's stay under the radar for a little longer, shall we?
pankkake: or add proof of stake? ;)
benkay: i'm hoping to sell asic floor tile heaters at some point in the next decade
Luke-Jr: pankkake: there hasn't been a usable implementation done yet :/
benkay: as well as asic water heaters
benkay: and asic furnaces
pankkake: asic saunas
benkay: why not
benkay: great heat source
benkay: i'd ipo something idiotic sounding like ASICHEAT but then idiots would fund it and i'd have to go fucking deal with stuff
benkay: rent on next office is going to include utilities tho i tell you that
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident
benkay: i've seriously been pondering doing a warehouse or a shittily insulated office and putting ASIC blades by every desk
benkay: "just run your heater"
benkay: "what if it's not cold?"
benkay: "..."
benkay: "run your heater."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.00114567 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> well, there's Algeria << now we know she's really french :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00114666 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 11 @ 0.002879 = 0.0317 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr they could kill my erection, and that is about the limit of what they can do.
mircea_popescu: put that pelosi underspeaker on webcam or something
kakobrekla: 01:59.51 ( Luke-Jr ) the US is the best there is today, and it sucks pretty bad too [01:43:31]
kakobrekla: recheck your pill schedule
mircea_popescu: benkay you know, you might grossly overestimate the hundred bitcoin teh muppets keep moving bakc and forth.
kakobrekla: log.bitcoin-assets
benkay: mircea_popescu: heh. there's not that much in the entire mining scam?
kakobrekla: hit me up if there was anything of importance
mircea_popescu: benkay yes there's that much, in the sense that muppets keep buying btc. but the pool keeps getting drained and the sharks keep multiplying so...
benkay: there's some time, then.
benkay: i'm just going to keep on keeping on with my personal capitalization project.
mircea_popescu: can't hurt.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.002538 = 0.0127 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: not even a boob or anything eh
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how was pula ?
kakobrekla: quite decent really
mircea_popescu: dja know it's cock in romanian ?
kakobrekla: lol no
kakobrekla: ill let everyone know next time
mircea_popescu: i think they probably do by now lol
kakobrekla: mebbe
kakobrekla: still a good rub in the face
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002538 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002504 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.213 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 2.69851570 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 89 satoshi per share
benkay: so: retroshare. anyone played with it?
benkay: retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
mircea_popescu: no but the gpg part at least is the righ way
benkay: thestringpuller: same thing
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003478 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 37 @ 0.003479 = 0.1287 BTC [+]
pankkake: tried to install it but the dependencies annoyed me
pankkake: I like the name
pankkake: actually wanted to use that name for a different project of mine
ozbot: Eve Online corp Bitcoin Hegemony
mircea_popescu: lets copy all the things!
pankkake: must show you're doing something right
mircea_popescu: no, i'm the only dude in bitcoin doing EVERYTHING WRONG ALL THE TIME
mircea_popescu: just ask around.
ozbot: Loper OS » RIP Douglas Engelbart.
mircea_popescu: i like the anger in the 1st paragraph lol.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 0.001055 * 500
gribble: 0.5275
ClivePalmer: rip phag
thestringpuller: ;;calc 0.5275 + 0.23480582
gribble: 0.76230582
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000642 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.001055 = 1.055 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.001051 = 2.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3995 @ 0.00105 = 4.1948 BTC [-]
gesell: what is the fastest way to get money out to a US account?
gesell: bitstamp, coinbase?
gesell: i got coin, want to sell and want to get $ in less then a week
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.003916 = 0.0117 BTC [+]
BigBitz: yeah OTC.
gesell: pff OTC as too high a premium
kakobrekla: well, you said you want it in this decade.
kakobrekla: you cant have it all
kakobrekla: just like i cant have it all, goddamn external pillows.
gesell: coinbase in 2-3 days... seems pretty beneath a decade
kakobrekla: well it seems you already have the answer to the question you are asking
gesell: got it in another IRC channel at the same time, but yeah
BigBitz: 2-3 days after you auth/verify though, right?
gesell: yeah, have to check how long that takes
BigBitz: 30 days.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003479 = 0.0244 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.020285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 7 @ 0.000642 = 0.0045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 1.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 22 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0173 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 601 @ 0.00088829 = 0.5339 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00088925 = 4.0016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.0008896 = 2.6697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1098 @ 0.00089243 = 0.9799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 133 @ 0.01209 = 1.608 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003478 BTC [-]
Namworld: Who the fuck are these guys?
kakobrekla: looks like some idiots
Namworld: Asking for 25250 BTC
kakobrekla: you know ThickAsThieves your practices are becoming more and more shady and borderline scammy
Namworld: I can making fancy graphics of buildings and credit cards too, I have GIMP
kakobrekla: just FYI, carry on.
Namworld: and Blender, let's not forget Blender
ThickAsThieves: The graphics are supplied by Telia & Pavla BBDO ­ http://www.tpbbdo.com.cy/, not sure what software they use
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: elaborate the shadiness?
kakobrekla: i dont need to.
thestringpuller: then why did you say it?
kakobrekla: cause its true.
kakobrekla: lurk moar
thestringpuller: no. lurkers suck. hydras a so much better.
pankkake: hehe
pankkake: *kekeke
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003478 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: so just spit it or quit it,don't make me wanna smack ya mr. kakobtekla
pankkake: tldr #bitcoin-assets everything sucks and is a scam
kakobrekla: BFL is doing great.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.002523 = 0.2523 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003386 = 0.0169 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 350 @ 0.003386 = 1.1851 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 105 @ 0.003385 = 0.3554 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 63 @ 0.02089 = 1.3161 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02089 = 0.2089 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02095 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.02095 = 0.5447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.02096 = 0.7546 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: o lol garr255 has a new shill account
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02096 = 0.4192 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 1.119 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.02096 = 0.8384 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02096 = 0.0629 BTC [+]
dexX7: anotheranon/dvd-rewritable said that earlier, but i was wondering.. would he participate in a group-buy? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241414.msg2571226#msg2571226
kakobrekla: 2 btc isnt much for you to be questioning this
kakobrekla: he did get caught before
kakobrekla: so i assume he will make more effort next time
kakobrekla: and the next
kakobrekla: and the next
dexX7: true
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 60 @ 0.0011 = 0.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003386 = 0.0169 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 195 @ 0.003385 = 0.6601 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 571 @ 0.003382 = 1.9311 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003475 = 0.0174 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003475 = 0.0348 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003475 = 0.0139 BTC [+]
dexX7: group-buy user said the shipping address of theterabyte doesn't match with garr's idaho address
kakobrekla: so the chance of shill went down from 90 to 75%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0008879 = 1.687 BTC [-]
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