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assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.10001, Best ask: 135.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09899, Last trade: 135.10000, 24 hour volume: 26423.91159310, 24 hour low: 129.02000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 134.04095
Chaang-Noi: morning all
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.100005 = 1.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.261 = 5.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.24 = 2.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00070324 = 4.5007 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: front page of bbc, crazy
Chaang-Noi: this keeps happening
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
KRS-1: powerful article
Chaang-Noi: im shocked very shocked by the amount of press btc has gotten
SoulKhan: knowledge reigns supreme
taub: holy shit lmao
taub: is that mtux? giving the interview on a cyan gymnastic ball
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13858 @ 0.00069366 = 9.6127 BTC [-]
b0n1: taub, i think so
b0n1: KRS-1, what article do you mean?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00069806 = 3.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00070297 = 3.3342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00070377 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32000001 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 90 @ 0.32 = 28.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 408 @ 0.003 = 1.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00070377 = 2.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00070885 = 2.1733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071443 = 1.7146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.000715 = 2.3431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.016 = 0.448 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00069366 = 6.0695 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 81 @ 0.01 = 0.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 89 @ 0.01 = 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: so hrm
Diablo-D3: still wondering if I want to bid on those units
KRS-1: b0n1: this article <Chaang-Noi>
b0n1: Diablo-D3, which units?
Diablo-D3: asicminer blades
dub: fuck dat
Diablo-D3: dub: well yeah
Diablo-D3: the prices have gone up too high
Diablo-D3: they cant pay for themselves in 2 months anymore
b0n1: yeah too risky
davout: how much are they being sold for ?
Diablo-D3: current bids are heading up towards 40 btc
davout: for which kind of hashrate ?
Diablo-D3: davout: 10gh
davout: thanks! i'll have a look
Diablo-D3: how much did an avalon sell for?
Chaang-Noi: avolon is 60 or 80 ghs?>
Diablo-D3: the 4 blade ones are 88
Chaang-Noi: d3 you think that auction will get into the 60s?
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: yes, I just said exactly that in the htread
Chaang-Noi: i know, im just shocked
Chaang-Noi: i dont think it will get into the 50s
Diablo-D3: whats the top bid now? 45?
Chaang-Noi: but 36 now is still a valid bid
Chaang-Noi: no way we will get into the 60s
Chaang-Noi: maybe 50s... but i doubt that
Diablo-D3: look at the previous auction, it jumped like 30 btc during the last few hours
Chaang-Noi: well time will tell but id make a bet we dont go into the 60s :)
Diablo-D3: its probably not going to clear 70
Diablo-D3: I think we can both agree onthat
Chaang-Noi: well yeah :)
Chaang-Noi: mp that guy in finland just bought 700 more btc at 134.5 he said
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i wonder what his average buy in price is
Chaang-Noi: but still, long term i bet he does well
mircea_popescu: well it's impossible to know. if he were sane then i'm sure he'd do well. has a silver business or w/e, bought some btc, sounds good
mircea_popescu: unfortunately he doesn't sound sane.
Chaang-Noi: i sold him the coin, i wanted to call his bluff, i did not think he had the fiat
Chaang-Noi: so we will see if the fiat comes in, if not lu;z will be had
mircea_popescu: well wait
mircea_popescu: you sent btc first ?!
Diablo-D3: how many BTC?
Chaang-Noi: no i did not send first
mircea_popescu: o, escrew ?
Chaang-Noi: he is going to send first, if/when i get the money i send btc
Chaang-Noi: no escrow
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yuki's kitchen?
mircea_popescu: it's funny cause that's the first roast beast i've seen with the hair still on.
Chaang-Noi: so either he does send and we ahve a good trade or he does not send and i make some lulz
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: s/roast beast/long pig/
Chaang-Noi: Forbidden
Chaang-Noi: You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/133475342584.jpg on this server.
Chaang-Noi: Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Chaang-Noi: why i fail mp?
mircea_popescu: possibly got banned ?
Chaang-Noi: im happy he is sending directly to me in thailand
Chaang-Noi: taxes suck...
Chaang-Noi: im not sure how i got banned
Chaang-Noi: iv never posted
mircea_popescu: maybe you're on a shared ip or som,ething ?
mircea_popescu: are you on one of those pool things ?
Chaang-Noi: its synamic, or changes or what not, but i doubt many people here in thailand post on your blog
Chaang-Noi: dynamic
mircea_popescu: post probably not, try to spam possibly.
Chaang-Noi: not a big deal, but your site rejects me about 255 of the time for some odd reason
Chaang-Noi: oh, thailand has some spammers
Chaang-Noi: im blocked from 4chan for that reason
mircea_popescu: yeah well that'sd explain it
PsychoticBoy: good morning all
PsychoticBoy: yes even you mircea
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: since when did you enjoy cannibalism art?
PsychoticBoy: so whats up with the insane amount of btc ppl paying for ASICMINER eruptor blades??
Chaang-Noi: no idea
mircea_popescu: since forever
Chaang-Noi: but as a stock holder im happy
PsychoticBoy: I would be too Goat
DiabloD3: yeah really
DiabloD3: Im a stock holder and Im happy
PsychoticBoy: I have 500 shares and I am happy only thing is, they (the buyers ) are stupid
Chaang-Noi: am should sell as many as they can now before bfl fixes their shit
mircea_popescu: if you've not seen it
PsychoticBoy: but why should someone pay 40+ btc for a 10Gh/s miner? does it mean I can sell my 15Gh/s farm for 60+ btc? dont think so
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.297 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: if there is free electric then yeah
Chaang-Noi: asics as ytou know are awesome cuz energy use
PsychoticBoy: how much energy fot the blade? 200w
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i dont know
Chaang-Noi: but that seems high
mircea_popescu: CryptoTrader scammed me out of 500 FC
mircea_popescu: da fuck is a fc ?
PsychoticBoy: freicoin?
Chaang-Noi: feather coin?
PsychoticBoy: heilcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: could be both
Chaang-Noi: yeah i dont know
mircea_popescu: Hi, I want to borrow 782.1 BTC.
Chaang-Noi: me too
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 782 * 134
gribble: 104788
mircea_popescu: 100k loan w/o any of rthe paperwork.
mircea_popescu: he wants to copy zefir's plan, with opm
Chaang-Noi: well... that finland guy is suposidly sending me 1`00k with no paperwork
mircea_popescu: other people's money
Scrat: any loan over 100 btc should require sexual favors for life
Chaang-Noi: zefir is build the asics guy right?
Chaang-Noi: the avlon stuff?
mircea_popescu: lmao... wasn't i saying this last month ?
Chaang-Noi: charged with what?
mircea_popescu: the germans are investigationg a phishing ring
Chaang-Noi: oh really?
Chaang-Noi: i guess i just dont know enought about bitcoin 24
thestringpuller: oh wow mircea_popescu is awake
thestringpuller: but I guess it is like evening there
davout: it's actually noon in europe
thestringpuller: it's like 6 AM here
davout: oh, sorry you weren't talking about europe
thestringpuller: and probably fucking night time already in asian
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu was last awake around the time Game of Thrones was on
thestringpuller: ;;google install python-egg
gribble: A small introduction to Python Eggs - MrTopf: <>; setuptools 0.6c11 : Python Package Index: <>; [Tutor] How do you install EGG files - Mailing Lists: <>
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller whence this fascination with times ?
Scrat: thestringpuller: it was a good ep
DiabloD3: lol fucking python eggs
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10629 = 0.5315 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: another reason not to use python
thestringpuller: I don't have time to write C.
thestringpuller: Nor teach anyone C.
thestringpuller: Yes C is awesome. Best language ever.
thestringpuller: But it takes a long time to learn, and a long time to use.
DiabloD3: although rust is looking pretty nifty
thestringpuller: You probably love C because it's more granular to optimize no?
Scrat: he loves C because he is into BDSM
Scrat: no other reason really
thestringpuller: Or even to debug per machine :P
DiabloD3: I like C because it doesn't enforce broken behavior
thestringpuller: Because its like 30 years old.
DiabloD3: although I _really_ wish I didn't have to basically ignore the libc
DiabloD3: too much stuff written in C is thread safe
Scrat: i don't know why would anyone code in C anymore, unless they absolutely had to
DiabloD3: Scrat: because all other languages suck
DiabloD3: evernote:///view/30460238/s248/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/
DiabloD3: errr
DiabloD3: thanks evernote
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.016 = 0.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0164 = 0.1312 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: there, find me a language that does all of that
KRS-1: some of this would be blasphemy in to java
DiabloD3: yes, java is one of those languages that are wrong.
KRS-1: for real
KRS-1: so are a lot of the java developers i've had to work with
Scrat: I think there are more important matters, for example why the fuck would you have to use an external lib to have simple things like hash maps?
Scrat: hurrr static typing
KRS-1: hack code for a living?? really? never seen such people that don't take pride in their code in my life
DiabloD3: Scrat: well, with C, I'm working on a library that isnt just fucking shit.
KRS-1: where I work I have to support dev teams..some of the crap I've seen will make you cringe.
KRS-1: C is amazing..and been around a while..probably will be.
KRS-1: I never could grasp assembly though
KRS-1: its too primitive for me
Scrat: it will be around forever, probably like 90% of internet infrastructure is written in C
Scrat: C/C++
Scrat: DiabloD3 just had an embolism when I added the ++
Scrat: he is also a boost hater, and I'll agree with him there
Scrat: but it's needed to cover the suck
KRS-1: haha u have a cool way of putting things
DiabloD3: Scrat: thats why you dont use a shitty language to begin wtih
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00069685 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00069366 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: 28 years? the last time i heard about that or a differnt story they only got 2 years each
jurov: i like C. Except for string operations where I need pen and paper to visualize where the pointers end up.
Chaang-Noi: sell 700 btc, then we go up... lulz
jurov: wtf is "juvenile-prison developer"?
mircea_popescu: one that builds prisons for kids
jurov: oh, there is such a vocation in US nao?
Chaang-Noi: that page wont load for me, but im going to guess this is in the usa?
jurov: Chaang-Noi: just wait, takes time
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah.
Chaang-Noi: it failed twice for me
Chaang-Noi: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Chaang-Noi: HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
Chaang-Noi: pretty sure its just down
jurov: goat: here for ya
Chaang-Noi: thanks
Chaang-Noi: this is from 2011
Chaang-Noi: i heard about this but thought the judges only got 2 years
Chaang-Noi: and i thought there were two of them
Chaang-Noi: i saw a documentry on the prision system of the usa and they had a bit on this place
Chaang-Noi: one boy got 10 months for tossing a steak at his dad
KRS-1: wtf i was dead wrong on market price everything i looked at told me it was supposed to go down
KRS-1: i was seeing bouncing cat at first then rising wedge..this must be hype?
Chaang-Noi: 120 to 165 range for now
KRS-1: so mid day dip maybe
Chaang-Noi: there is a lot and lot of money pouring into btc now
Chaang-Noi: also i just sold 700 btc so there is that too:) it goes up if i sell
KRS-1: thanks a lot chaang-noi :P
KRS-1: no biggie i've been doing ok
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.50000, Best ask: 142.96302, Bid-ask spread: 0.46302, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 38895.80757496, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.06785
Uglux: you sold 700 coins to rpietila? ^^
mircea_popescu: Uglux well agreed to the sale.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069113 = 6.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00069036 = 0.863 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol jurov i see usagi & co are trolling you hard
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.00072 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1199 @ 0.00067649 = 0.8111 BTC [-]
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 135.84
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000651 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 466 @ 0.003 = 1.398 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00991 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.009901 = 0.3366 BTC [-]
error4733: ;;next
gribble: targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips: ) | disclaimer: | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.000651 = 0.0163 BTC [+]
error4733: ;;asks 151
gribble: There are currently 11295.425 bitcoins offered at or under 151.0 USD, worth 1664369.15133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
error4733: ;;bids 122
gribble: There are currently 27969.246 bitcoins demanded at or over 122.0 USD, worth 3617338.10143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.3214 seconds
error4733: ;;eightball 160$ today ?
gribble: Naturally.
error4733: second mortgage house
error4733: Oups wrong windows
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.002755 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Explosion shakes central Prague, as many as 40 injured
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: also, since i imagine this is what you folks
mircea_popescu: have been waiting for :
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.32440, Best ask: 143.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57560, Last trade: 143.32440, 24 hour volume: 42689.49700892, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.99000, 24 hour vwap: 136.88480
kakobrekla: what is this now
kakobrekla: i dun like it
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.013 = 0.078 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu make it stop
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hm ?
kakobrekla: post a blog or a twitter or smth
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.11110, Bid-ask spread: 0.00110, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47306.16273368, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 146.56373, 24 hour vwap: 137.70079
mircea_popescu: so what's wrong with 145
kakobrekla: 145 leads to 150 which leads to 160 which leads to 170
mircea_popescu: yes i agree. must be 0
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell Namworld please pm when you have a couple minutes, thanks!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
truff1es: ;;seen bowjob
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: books are good for you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00067147 = 7.2922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42006 @ 0.00068157 = 28.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15508 @ 0.00068592 = 10.6372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27935 @ 0.00069141 = 19.3145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069621 = 8.6678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2101 @ 0.00069808 = 1.4667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4811 = 4.811 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.4812 = 16.842 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.482 = 5.784 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.32 = 9.28 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.34300, Best ask: 146.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65699, Last trade: 146.99999, 24 hour volume: 58139.03194207, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 139.47241
kakobrekla: mmmmkay
kakobrekla: a great fuckin loan
kakobrekla: he got
kakobrekla: where do i sign up
error4733: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 19.402332 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0388820560887 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
error4733: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 55.095492 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110410749088 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
error4733: Monday shitstorm !! Goooooooooo ! i need more cheap coin !
kakobrekla: doesnt look like cheap to me
error4733: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.963318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00193047848615 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
error4733: always a little hope when i see 1m lag !
error4733: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 4.4809135e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20282289.5227 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9629 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.010025 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010025 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.010026 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Edge cases such as the month April 2013.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: o i got beta access to
thestringpuller: kakobrekla:
thestringpuller: were you at the mpex first dinner?
thestringpuller: you were weren't you :P
kakobrekla: mebbe
mircea_popescu: btc sex ?
davout: kakobrekla: you found how to wake mircea_popescu up
mircea_popescu: i was up already!
davout: this is dog indeed
kakobrekla: heh, i shared my access and apparently their site doesnt work with chrome but it works with ie
kakobrekla: kinda funny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22799 @ 0.00069808 = 15.9155 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: A maximum of 2 positions may be opened in both directions. This is not recommended unless it is part of a hedging strategy.
kakobrekla: omg why
kakobrekla: ill just create 10 accounts then wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14433 @ 0.0007083 = 10.2229 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: this wont go far or end well
Chaang-Noi: good wine is good....
mircea_popescu: Even after seven years of nonstop media hype, only 16 percent of Internet users tweet, the same as the percentage of 14-49-year-olds who have genital herpes. The difference being that the latter are not proud of their affliction, while the former never shut up about theirs.
kakobrekla: gential herpes is more successful than twitter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7798 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
lippoper1: and genital herpes has no advertisements
orkaa: should I safely assume that no one on twitter has genital herpes?
orkaa: that would be liberating to hear
orkaa: haha
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: moooooo
DiabloD3: wait I wonder if Im on that list
DiabloD3: seeing as I am an independent analyst for the bitcoin community
mircea_popescu: depends if you vote with the scammy Luke-Jr fuckwit.
DiabloD3: well the thing is
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i have no idea how i forgot this one
DiabloD3: even if Im not on that list
DiabloD3: people still email me
mircea_popescu: ;;everify mircea_popescu
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-ar;#bitcoin-otc-africa;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev;#gribble
DiabloD3: seriously, like, Ive gotten emails from people from a dozen major sites over the last month
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from
DiabloD3: trying to clarify points for upcoming bitcoin stories
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5ea2c50bc98b76e6ca36337ca6830abc919267f94dd8780773123bda
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
DiabloD3: nanotube: add #bitcoin-assets to that list of authentication channels
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Luke-Jr -1 Most recently, lied about BFL delivery (;all). Old history of being untrustworthy.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Luke-Jr has changed from 1 to -1.
DiabloD3: you know what
DiabloD3: Im going to do that too
DiabloD3: Im tired of his shit
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: you know what that cunt did recently?
DiabloD3: he +q'ed me in #-mining
DiabloD3: because I was telling the truth about BFL when someone asked me
mircea_popescu: i'm all for it, the bfl/gigavps/lukeetc troop wish to be publicly humiliated,
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of public humiliation to drown them in.
DiabloD3: I dont even care if they ship anymore
DiabloD3: it no longer matters
mircea_popescu: the only thing people fail to graps in time is that i am not done when they can't take it anymore,
DiabloD3: asicminer is in the process of dealing with their 200TH batch
mircea_popescu: i;'m done when i'm done. so...
DiabloD3: the 200TH will be sold, shipped, and mining by the time BFL starts shipping en masse
error4733: Diablo u rly want some blade ?
DiabloD3: error4733: Im considering it
DiabloD3: the prices went nutty again
error4733: way way overpriced no ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00070612 = 2.1191 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: I think I may just wait for the next round
PsychoticBoy: WAY overpriced
Luke-Jr: ;;rate mircea_popescu -2 Delusional troll. I wouldn't trust him with a penny.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -2 to -2.
DiabloD3: ;;eauth
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr get a penny one day, maybe that'll matter.
DiabloD3: ;;eauth Diablo-D3
gribble: Request successful for user Diablo-D3, hostmask DiabloD3! Get your encrypted OTP from
PsychoticBoy: If I can get it for 25 btc I might take a lot
error4733: 75 btc for first #, expect 45/55 for this one
lippoper1: Luke-Jr, is that the guy calling litecoin 51% attacked?
mircea_popescu: lippoper1 he's the guy running the shady pool.
mircea_popescu: or w/e, sold it after driving it into the ground/gave it away/we.
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: ?
DiabloD3: ;;everify
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
DiabloD3: ;;everify Diablo-D3
gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
DiabloD3: bah.
Scrat: you already authed
DiabloD3: Im already authed so I dont give a fuck.
PsychoticBoy: ++ident Diablo?d3
DiabloD3: I just wonder how mp did that
PsychoticBoy: ;;ident Diablo-D3\
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
PsychoticBoy: ;;ident Diablo-D3
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: DiabloD3 so read the scrollback neh
PsychoticBoy: ;;ident DiabloD3
gribble: Nick 'DiabloD3', with hostmask 'DiabloD3!', is identified as user Diablo-D3, with GPG key id 85C235C280C197A4, key fingerprint 16D15E73E75E4BF688E4F2A685C235C280C197A4, and bitcoin address None
lippoper1: poor Luke-Jr
DiabloD3: oh right Im missing the -
lippoper1: Litecoin 51% attack with fpga's
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I know about that, what about it?
lippoper1: you're the one starting that thread, what do you know about it? or where can i read up on it?
Diablo-D3: ;;rate Luke-Jr -10 Known troll.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Luke-Jr has been recorded.
Diablo-D3: -10 is as far as it goes, right?
lippoper1: i said poor Luke-Jr, cause mircea said you lost your pool or something
kakobrekla: -9000
mircea_popescu: is he even positive anymore ?
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust Luke-Jr
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Luke-Jr: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 19 via 10 connections. Graph:
kakobrekla: ;;getrating Luke-Jr
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Luke-Jr!~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49 . User luke-jr, rated since Sat Feb 5 10:37:04 2011. Cumulative rating 12, from 67 total ratings. Received ratings: 53 positive, 14 negative. Sent ratings: 49 positive, 26 negative. Details:
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: not at all, it's running great; I just don't have time for it, so I passed it on
Diablo-D3: ;;getrating Diablo-D3
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Diablo-D3! . User Diablo-D3, rated since Mon Apr 25 11:54:20 2011. Cumulative rating 10, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 7 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 1 negative. Details:
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I didn't start that thread..
lippoper1: can you point me to it?
Luke-Jr: no, I didn't know it existed until you said something lol
Diablo-D3: lol luke never fixed that lie
Diablo-D3: who runs otc?
Diablo-D3: because lol supa thinks I can ban people on bitcointalk
Scrat: nanotube, and he won't remove ratings
PsychoticBoy: ;;ident PsychoticBoy
gribble: Nick 'PsychoticBoy', with hostmask 'PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy', is identified as user PsychoticBoy, with GPG key id 06DC71AFE4DAC520, key fingerprint 9E476C16F877E988110787BC06DC71AFE4DAC520, and bitcoin address None
Diablo-D3: nanotube: remove the ratings from luke and supa.
mircea_popescu: lmao why ?
mircea_popescu: it's a graph dude, not a sum.
Scrat: he won't and he never has. it's against his policy
PsychoticBoy: ;;getrating PsychoticBoy
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy . User PsychoticBoy, rated since Tue May 1 12:39:15 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details:
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: remove the ratings yourself
Luke-Jr: your ratings are the lies
Diablo-D3: really? you +q'ed me in mining because I told the truth about BFL being a scam
Luke-Jr: well, supa's ratings are probably lies too, but not my concern
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: because you lie
Luke-Jr: BFL isn't a scam at all
Diablo-D3: how did I lie?
Diablo-D3: did BFL ship? no.
Diablo-D3: even if they ship now, its too late
Diablo-D3: they cant undo the fact they're a scam
Diablo-D3: they can ship thousands of TH, and its too late
ThickAsThieves: articles say theyve shipped 40 or so units
Luke-Jr: yes
Luke-Jr: they did ship
mircea_popescu: that's quite besides the point anyway. bitcoin mining isd about mining.
ThickAsThieves: whatever thats worth
Luke-Jr: and they never were a scam
mircea_popescu: whether he's an idiot or not, Diablo-D3 still is part of bitcoin mining.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: doesn't give him the right to slander others
Luke-Jr: I already told Diablo-D3 I'd remove the +q if he promised to stop that
Diablo-D3: how is it slander? I asked BFL repeatedly to prove there was development going on
mircea_popescu: no, you don't have the "right" to come up with offences.
ThickAsThieves: what do youc all sitting on people's money for a year, if not a scam?
Diablo-D3: they never even answered
mircea_popescu: whoever perceives they were "Slandered" is welcome to go to the courts.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: BFL has no obligation to prove anything to you
mircea_popescu: that's where slander has a meaning. here, it's meaningless.
Diablo-D3: if BFL wants the community's money yes they fucking do
Diablo-D3: as a founding member of this community, I have a fucking right to ask the questions.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: you don't represent the community
Luke-Jr: LOL
Luke-Jr: troll
mircea_popescu: this is a little ridiculous, we're arguing with some random lunatic who got a sandwich
mircea_popescu: so now he's going to what, spend his worthless time barking.
ThickAsThieves: but it's almost lunch time
lippoper1: BFL are scam artists
Diablo-D3: see, this is why I put people on ignore
ThickAsThieves: should be here in 2 weeks TM
Diablo-D3: Im just tired of this shit
lippoper1: they're jalapenos are nothing more than 6 fpgas running together
Scrat: this is so good, waiting for tiberiusiv to join in
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: 6 FPGAs don't use 30 W
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 he'd be on my ignore but normally he has the sense to stfu here so i never bothered.
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 whats the point, its the end of the world in 2016 isnt it so?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no in 2012.
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: I was kidding about that.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, but everyone forgets to add 3.5 years on top of that
ThickAsThieves: end of the world = reward halving
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: also, my ASIC runs at 28 Gh/s, explain that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the reign of satan will be 3.5 years, as long as jesus's ministry
lippoper1: let me see it
mircea_popescu: to quote missy-pr, This thread is epic. Calling all neckbeards (jgarzick, gmaxwell, puke-jr &co): YOU FAIL
mircea_popescu: This is because you suck. You're not good enough. The only option you have is exactly how much public humiliation comes with your failure.
mircea_popescu: Knock yourselves out.
lippoper1: i want a youtube video of the whole thing running, no hidden cables, no hidden outlets
lippoper1: no cables that run off the field of view
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hows this, pay me a thousand BTC, Ill just create a better coin
mircea_popescu: eh but why.
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: too bad, I don't have the time to get anywhere near that clean
kakobrekla: hey i got beard on my neck
mircea_popescu: this one is fine. so various idiots inexplicably think they matter in the contexrt. so ?
lippoper1: hahaha
ThickAsThieves: he wants BTC to create non-btc, hrm
Diablo-D3: because BFL morons wont be able to mine on it.
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu has more BTC than dollars.
lippoper1: i just want to see a non edited video of the thing in action
ThickAsThieves: i'm skeptical that mp doesnt have plenty fiat to match
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: there's plenty of those on the web now
lippoper1: and you follow the cables, haven't seen that in any of the 'unboxing' and whatnot videos
lippoper1: you went to BFL right?
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: enmaku even has a teardown video
lippoper1: in exchange they gave you an ASIC?
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: then by all means, post the fucking URL.
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I bought my ASICs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.199199 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: screw you, learn to google
lippoper1: sure, but yet you don't have any proof of it
lippoper1: wtf bud
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1992 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: but you're the one claiming it exists
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: it does. proving it to you is not my problem.
Diablo-D3: bwhahaha
lippoper1: hahahaha
Diablo-D3: Nice Christian attitude there, bud.
Luke-Jr: I couldn't care less if you believe it or not.
lippoper1: I have a Litecoin ASIC miner
lippoper1: yeah it does 28GH/s
Diablo-D3: dude, I have a DiabloCoin ASIC miner
Diablo-D3: and I havent even written DiabloCoin yet
lippoper1: oh you don't believe me, that's too bad, it's not my burden to provide you proof
Diablo-D3: its a sad ASIC :<
ThickAsThieves: Micon trusts this video
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: yep, I don't believe you. too bad.
Diablo-D3: you know what, it is lunch time
lippoper1: fine Luke-Jr., I don't have to prove it to you
Luke-Jr: nope, you don't.
Luke-Jr: I'll just go on not believing you.
ThickAsThieves: the youtube i posted is an unboxing btw
lippoper1: but don't call me a liar or a scam artist for taking everyone's money for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you know whats funny?
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: the difference is, the proof of BFL's ASICs exists. Diablo-D3 is just too lazy to look in obvious places for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I wrote DiabloMiner, con ported it to C as cgminer, then Luke-Jr forked it because con didnt want to merge his shitty patches
lippoper1: I've looked at the so called proof
Luke-Jr: lol, you wish Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: in other words, Luke-Jr's only fame relies on code I wrote.
lippoper1: i don't believe it, because they have hidden cables running behind the fucking laptop
mircea_popescu: ya well. the hope is that after another decade or so of getting people coffee he learns to code.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: that will probably never happen
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: fine, then don't believe it. your problem, not mine.
mircea_popescu: supposedly this happens
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: really, the best programmers in the world all started young
lippoper1: either wya, it doesn't bother me one bit
kakobrekla: am i still a neckbard if i shave, just like you can be a chinese and a nigger.
Diablo-D3: its too late for him
Diablo-D3: hes like, what, 40?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the neckbeard is inside not outside
Luke-Jr: I'm 28, and have been programming since 6 or 7
Diablo-D3: so why the fuck do you still suck at it?
mircea_popescu: how long since you've not been taking your pills would be more interesting.
ezdiy: mp, didnt know you host a talkshow for neckbeards :(
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: ask luke about the catholic church
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: only delusional people such as yourself have pills
mircea_popescu: ezdiy anything to survive in this tough makret
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 the neckbeard argument university.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he must have a fucking phd in that
Scrat: why did you stop?
lippoper1: ok, Diablo-D3, since you're amazing and all, can we start DiabloCoin?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000651 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Scrat out of mountain dew.
lippoper1: make it SHA-512 or something
Chaang-Noi: sd3 not even 50
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, probably Ill use scrypt correctly
Chaang-Noi: d3 not even 50 lol
Scrat: mircea_popescu: don't think there are any rednecks here
Diablo-D3: proof litecoin sucks dick: you can mine it on gpus.
Scrat: lippoper1: I've been saying this for months... someone with a clue needs to start an altcoin
Scrat: might as well be diablocoin
Diablo-D3: Scrat: Im seriously considering it
Diablo-D3: Im just not sure I want to sink that much time into it
kakobrekla: yeah the bitcoin is too mainstream
ThickAsThieves: warning more neckbeard
kakobrekla: must get out.
lippoper1: yeah
lippoper1: we need a better altcoin
ThickAsThieves: neckbeard jumped from big guy to new guy
kakobrekla: looool
Diablo-D3: so Im thinking possibly rust
Diablo-D3: I really want to try it out
lippoper1: scrypt is cool but can't we just mine that with GPUs now?
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, litecoin uses scrypt wrong
Diablo-D3: which is very dangerous
lippoper1: NVC is the same way
lippoper1: can be gpu mined
lippoper1: using scrypt
Diablo-D3: I thought nvc was sha256?
Diablo-D3: but yeah, I want to see a return of cpu mining
lippoper1: NovaCoin scrypt
Diablo-D3: make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
kakobrekla: BFL Bitcoin ASIC Teardown, related: How to make caramel
kakobrekla: gotta love youtube
ezdiy: Diablo-D3: timekoin >:)
Diablo-D3: ezdiy: but only the Doctor would have a use for that
ezdiy: hehe
ezdiy: 17:32 < Diablo-D3> make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
ezdiy: fills the bill tho
ThickAsThieves: most important thing about a new coin is a good name
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: you should use my altcoin
Diablo-D3: Im probably going to name it after a planet
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves: newcoin isn't taken yet
Diablo-D3: probably something lol like MarsCoin
Chaang-Noi: luke you have an alt coin?
BTCOxygen: Luke-Jr: Whats the name of your altcoin?
imsaguy: trollcoin?
Diablo-D3: software written explicitly for upcoming mars colonization missions
ThickAsThieves: newcoin is okay
ezdiy: Luke-Jr uses religious names
ezdiy: so um
ThickAsThieves: lacks sex
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: yep, the very first one ever
Diablo-D3: ezdiy: I should too
imsaguy: newsexcoin
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: Tonal bitcoin
Chaang-Noi: oh right
BTCOxygen: Luke-Jr: lol
Diablo-D3: oh and btw
Diablo-D3: theres one change Im making
Diablo-D3: rewards will be low and never decrease
ThickAsThieves: decepticoin
imsaguy: aww, cute:
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:07:45] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 1 | New rating: luke-jr > -1 > diablo-d3 | I advanced him 8 BTC in exchange for 16 BTC worth of shares in the DMC IPO. But in conversation lately, he's been exceedingly dishonest, so I dunno..
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:10:56] <+gribble> New rating | Diablo-D3 > -10 > Luke-Jr | Known troll.
lippoper1: hahaha
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: yeah, and luke still owns those DMC shares too
ThickAsThieves: autocoin
Diablo-D3: primecoin
lippoper1: name: GigaCoin
Diablo-D3: actually, lets just call it peniscoin
ThickAsThieves: metacoin
Diablo-D3: if we're going to troll, might as well push it up to 11
lippoper1: BetaCoin
BTCOxygen: Lukecoin
Diablo-D3: but yeah, we clearly need a silver to go with bitcoin's gold
lippoper1: LipCoin
BTCOxygen: Diablo-D3: Litecoin
Diablo-D3: litecoin is largely a failure
Diablo-D3: it never took off and it has no value
lippoper1: And we definitely need a Baryllium to the silver and gold coins
Uglux: wagnercoin :P
ezdiy: i think you need decent following to start a coin, so basically only contenders are RpiCoin and MPCoin
ThickAsThieves: cybercoin
lippoper1: litecoin is crap
Diablo-D3: do we even need coin in the name?
lippoper1: it's failing miserably right now
Diablo-D3: just call it Saturn
lippoper1: Call it pluto
ThickAsThieves: it might help in borrowing from bitcoins brand
Diablo-D3: each "coin" is a ring.
Diablo-D3: Im a bad bad person.
ThickAsThieves: hashlings
Diablo-D3: fucking korea
ThickAsThieves: cryptobits
ThickAsThieves: taste great with milk!
Diablo-D3: cereal killer.
ThickAsThieves: digigold
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11302 @ 0.00068056 = 7.6917 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it's even in stereo
Diablo-D3: that guy has lots of nifty shit
Diablo-D3: doom e1m1 is good too
Diablo-D3: so Im thinking
Diablo-D3: constant inflation, but the % of inflation decreases over time
lippoper1: ALTERA
Diablo-D3: use of network coding techniques to decrease the time of data dissemination
KRS1: Its a scam
Diablo-D3: I think we already covered that
lippoper1: yeah
lippoper1: it's the only unit in the wild
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2785 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: its lunch time
Diablo-D3: not sure what I want to eat
imsaguy: cat
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2787 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: no, I save eating pussy for dessert.
imsaguy: So what happens when bfl finally starts shipping in any sort of recognizable quantity
imsaguy: will it kill asicminer?
imsaguy: since their tech is newer
Diablo-D3: brb xchat is fucking up
Uglux: this is not a tech race (yet) more a delivery time race
Uglux: and bfl lost ^^
Diablo-D3: [11:50:53] <imsaguy> will it kill asicminer?
Diablo-D3: er, how does it kill asicminer?
Diablo-D3: asicminer will have 200th in customer's hands before bfl starts shipping en masse
Diablo-D3: if anything, BFL might as well just declare bankruptcy right now
ThickAsThieves: AM also has a lot of money to play with
Diablo-D3: LOTS of money
Diablo-D3: and they're already working on a next generation process
Diablo-D3: I shouldnt have said that.
Diablo-D3: friedcat is going to be mad with me now =/
imsaguy: Well, they'd be stupid to not be working on a next generation process
lippoper1: seriously Diablo, you need to make the new altcoin
Uglux: will you guys buy alibaba stocks?
lippoper1: please put Feathercoin out of its misery
Diablo-D3: wtf is feathercoin anyhow
Diablo-D3: I keep hearing people talk about that
lippoper1: some ahole, made a litecoin clone
lippoper1: with 4x the coins
lippoper1: that's it
lippoper1: there is no improvement or anything else to it.
Diablo-D3: what.
lippoper1: yes, that's why i'm serious about you making a serious altcoin
lippoper1: with the support of the community and some actual improvements over what litecoin does now, i think it would take off eventually
lippoper1: these clones of litecoin like feathercoin/novacoin are a joke to me
lippoper1: butterflylabs support forum golden quote of the day: "at this point I think it's safe to expect my jalapeno could arrive around the same time as the rapture and the second coming of Christ."
ThickAsThieves: if you want a good altcoin, you need a good name, minimal pre-mining, GPU mining, and support from at least one decent exchange
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: you know whats funny? the rapture is not supported by the bible
jurov: Luke-Jr: if BFL is real, why no one buys difficulty future anymore?
ThickAsThieves: it also wouldnt hurt to ding the confidence of litecoin somehow
ThickAsThieves: with your new coin
ThickAsThieves: jurov, could also be your pricing
lippoper1: hahaha
jurov: the prices are below bfl pudits estimations.
jurov: or, let's agree about collateral and undercut me, go on
ThickAsThieves: i'd be safer posting futures on mpex, no?
lippoper1: stupid waiting game
lippoper1: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.95000, Best ask: 143.96799, Bid-ask spread: 0.01799, Last trade: 143.96800, 24 hour volume: 65651.97862618, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.87244
jurov: ThickAsThieves, they are covered only up to 0.14 btc (no one knows for sure, tho)
jurov: so, not so much attractive
ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying your pricing is unreasonable, so much as priced perfectly above the likely hashrate
ThickAsThieves: you do well with your estimations
Uglux: lol @ bfl quote
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 233770 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 85 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10068449.7588 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.19208
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10068449.7588 based on data since last change | 10600052.17 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.80000, Best ask: 143.92220, Bid-ask spread: 0.12220, Last trade: 143.80000, 24 hour volume: 65712.09897859, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.88260
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: unfortunately his predications have rarely worked out
jurov: and i'm selling iDiff-E for 26m satoshi only
ThickAsThieves: he keeps assuming people will ship ;)
jurov: shhhh ThickAsThieves
jurov: :)
ThickAsThieves: there will be a about 5 diff changes before the 19th (excluding tomorrow's maybe)
ThickAsThieves: even if diff goes up 20% each time
ThickAsThieves: you still dont hit 26
ThickAsThieves: depends on how many diffs
ThickAsThieves: if it actually went up 20%
ThickAsThieves: we might get more
ThickAsThieves: not gonna bother with the math
jurov: yes, i'll prolly update it tomorrow
mircea_popescu: Chilca asciilifeform ^
Chilca: mircea_popescu: good morning
Chilca: do not understand what you sent me
topace: !ticker h vtx
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43990000 / 0.467525 / 0.48200000 (144 shares, 67.32360002 BTC), 7D: 0.40001000 / 0.45536846 / 0.49750000 (1346 shares, 612.92594387 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40162429 / 0.61488800 (6309 shares, 2533.84767053 BTC)
jurov: lists bitcoin now, with 1:4 leverage
jurov: hi mircea
mircea_popescu: Chilca i figure it's an article you'll enjoy.
mircea_popescu: line above.
Chilca: mircea_popescu: Great, will read it now!! thanks for share it.
mircea_popescu: jurov remarkable, i see a romanian page.
mircea_popescu: what's this like a poker site ?
jurov: trying to figure out, did not use it before
orkaa: i see a slovenian page
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 648 @ 0.00067673 = 0.4385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7799 BTC [+]
jurov: it's multinational, CFDs trading.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16019 @ 0.00068914 = 11.0393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43417 @ 0.0007083 = 30.7523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23566 @ 0.00071 = 16.7319 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i dont see it
kakobrekla: jurov in their interface
jurov: search for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86998 @ 0.00071 = 61.7686 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: they close the market for 1h
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6723 @ 0.000715 = 4.8069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4353 @ 0.00071588 = 3.1162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00071598 = 12.6728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00071609 = 3.9714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00071814 = 1.0054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.492 = 0.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00072 = 5.904 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 10 @ 0.36831645 = 3.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 5 @ 0.49704849 = 2.4852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00072 = 21.2249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 463 @ 0.000651 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 27 @ 0.003 = 0.081 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: ThickAsThieves> why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
PsychoticBoy: ^^ that is mircea trading ;)
PsychoticBoy: prentending there is volume
ThickAsThieves: not sure how that would benefit him
ThickAsThieves: it stays in a range
Diablo-D3: about an hour until the auction is done
Diablo-D3: I still may consider bidding on a single unit
ThickAsThieves: lotsa snipes last time, right?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol win.
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: LOTS of snipes last time
Diablo-D3: it traveled like 10btc last time
mircea_popescu: how much did it close for ?
ThickAsThieves: last time, like 74ish each i think
Diablo-D3: yeah
Diablo-D3: it was above 70 for all of the 10 boards
mircea_popescu: " changing your pass w/o the need of need to know the current one" da fuck ?!
mircea_popescu: can i change yours ?
Diablo-D3: wtf xchat, brb
Diablo-D3: but yeah
Diablo-D3: it'll probably clear 50
Diablo-D3: I think it might make it into the 60s
Diablo-D3: but dunno
ThickAsThieves: i like how he's including a free rack with purchase of 10
ThickAsThieves: firedcat was all like OMG when he saw those guys running theirs flat on a table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00072 = 8.1029 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
lippoper1: link please
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00072 = 72 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: actually, that was because of me
Diablo-D3: I said in the thread I'd consider continued bidding if I get a rack if I bid on 10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: but prices are just way beyond what Im willing to bid on
error4733: ok take those $70k but give me a rack
error4733: seems legit
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.27000, Best ask: 141.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 141.27000, 24 hour volume: 68300.17959196, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.22923
mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.C141T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.C140T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.C140T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048']
ThickAsThieves: how did this happen: [08:58] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
lippoper1: Diablo what auction, what's for sale?
mircea_popescu: shorting i guess
lippoper1: a true asic miner?
Diablo-D3: asicminer is selling more blades
mircea_popescu: Bang With Friends, the popular app that helps facilitate one-night stands with your Facebook friends, is reportedly raising a ~$1 million seed round, according to Business Insider.
lippoper1: 7. Is the blades compatible with P2Pool?
lippoper1: Our blades implements only the diff 1 getwork protocol. So p2pool is possible, but should be with proxies.
lippoper1: Wtf, does that mean it doesn't support stratum ;-)
lippoper1: cheapest blade available is at 41.5/42
lippoper1: each
lippoper1: and they only put out 5gh/s
lippoper1: each
lippoper1: $5,880.00 a blade cheapest
lippoper1: buahahaha
mircea_popescu: wait, wasn't it 10ghs ?
lippoper1: that's like a lifetime to break even
topace: yea each blade is 10gh
topace: not 5
lippoper1: ohhh
mircea_popescu: girl telling noob "you are the problem with bitcoin". priceless.
lippoper1: only 3 months to pay off if network difficulty remained the same
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4554 = 2.277 BTC [-]
ll: ;;genrate 10000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
lippoper1: ;;calc 0.0233493949273 * 140.56
gribble: 3.28199095098
lippoper1: per hour
ThickAsThieves: if they are lucky each blade will do 25btc in 2mos
mircea_popescu: if they are really lucky diff drops
ThickAsThieves: after 2mos, things will probly get pretty ugly
ll: ;;estimate
error4733: The next auction's most probably on USB stick miners, in a week. (the 300mhz type. Tongue)
error4733: Be rest assured that the blades aren't coming again so soon. Smiley
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10099802.9685 based on data since last change | 10607627.5042 based on data for last three days
error4733: quote from john
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00072 = 5.9098 BTC [+]
ll: ;;genrate 10000 10099803
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10099803.0, is 0.497936956227 BTC per day and 0.0207473731761 BTC per hour.
topace: Diablo-D3: are you buying some blades? seems pricey at only 10GH for 45+ BTC
Diablo-D3: topace: I have no active bids on that
topace: very politically correct answer...
topace: going to bid with 3 seconds to spare? :p
Diablo-D3: nope
Diablo-D3: too high
Diablo-D3: my threshold was 30 BTC
topace: heh mine was 40 :(
Diablo-D3: half hour left on asicminer blade auction
mircea_popescu: mine was like 4.5
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.276334 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I could reasonably make back 30 BTC in 2 months no matter how fast BFL ships units
Diablo-D3: any more than that probably not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: waitll you see how absurd budding gets for the USB miners
ThickAsThieves: bidding*
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 37 @ 0.00338 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: well, with those
Diablo-D3: I wonder if anyone makes a powered usb hub that can handle high power requirements
ThickAsThieves: i think one has been linked before
ThickAsThieves: but watch, people will pay like 5-8btc ea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8318 @ 0.00072251 = 6.0098 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: they're entirely USB powered so
Diablo-D3: each one uses 2.5 watts
Diablo-D3: or 0.5 amps
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: those I'd probably do a blanket bid on all of them 1 BTC each
ThickAsThieves: not gonna be nearly enough
ThickAsThieves: so many people want one
Diablo-D3: I have 487 BTC.
kakobrekla: oh so now we delete the fuckups
Diablo-D3: that does 0.5 amps per plug for all 7
kakobrekla: that works.
mircea_popescu: guy was funny lol
Diablo-D3: 4.5 amps
Diablo-D3: so not enough for 16
truff1es: ;;calc 487*135
gribble: 65745
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.000725 = 18.125 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: auction has crossed 50 btc.
Uglux: how long does friedcat usually need for a share transfer?
Diablo-D3: Uglux: usually before the next dividend payment
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00338 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
Uglux: thanks
Uglux: its the goldrush :)
mircea_popescu: ddue wtf, a 10gh itam is never mining two full blocks.
Diablo-D3: auction is over
Diablo-D3: I think that bid for 53 made it
PsychoticBoy: so for 40 btc you could have a eruptor blade
PsychoticBoy: ;;genrate 10000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
PsychoticBoy: lets say 0.5 a day for the next 2 weeks, after that 0.45 btc for 2 weeks hmmmn
PsychoticBoy: not such a great deal
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00338 = 0.338 BTC [+]
louong: but you get them now vs. (unknown time) with Avalon/BFL
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: was it you that said we wouldnt cross 50?
louong: part of the price includes the certainty
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 first off, diff is going up > 10% in a day
Diablo-D3: I agree.
Diablo-D3: I didnt have any active bids.
lippoper1: Diablo-D3: I have 487 BTC.
lippoper1: you mean 487k BTC?
Diablo-D3: no, 487.
PsychoticBoy: that belongs to DMC
PsychoticBoy: or what
Diablo-D3: no, mine.
lippoper1: why don't you have more?
lippoper1: did you also lose them day trading?
ThickAsThieves: how many shoulod he have?
PsychoticBoy: wow few months ago you were brooke
PsychoticBoy: sold your body lolz
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: why should I have more?
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: no, I sold 371 shares of ASICMINER
lippoper1: You're a great part of the community, I would just assume you probably had more than 480'ish
PsychoticBoy: good deal
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.276334 = 2.5527 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: I dont buy BTC, but I accept donations.
lippoper1: well, when you make our new Alt Coin, i will donate some DiabloCoins to you
ThickAsThieves: loppoper1, support your community send us all donations
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2768 BTC [+]
PsychoticBoy: 1PsychoKoNsM4iMyw7hHAYBRx3HgNqE28t
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: DiabloMiner probably hasnt even paid for itself
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.278 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: if you realize that a programmer with my skills could get paid $100+/hr
ThickAsThieves: why code when you can IRC all day
PsychoticBoy: why dont you work?
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I dont IRC as much as I used to
ThickAsThieves: i dont work as much as I used too
joecool: Diablo-D3: bullshit
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its not that I dont work
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its just I dont like working as a programmer fulltime
PsychoticBoy: I have a day time job although I dont need one
Diablo-D3: bosses tend to not understand the art
joecool: you just diversify your channels on IRC more to make it look like you talk less (but in reality you just talk more in more places)
lippoper1: That's why you need to program something you love
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: exactly.
lippoper1: like a new Alt Coin with its own proprietary miner
Diablo-D3: well, my alt coin would be cpu only
Diablo-D3: so the miner would be built in
lippoper1: i'm all for it
PsychoticBoy: like all clients begin with
lippoper1: except FeatherCoin
PsychoticBoy: one blow and all your feathercoins are gone lol
lippoper1: hahaha
lippoper1: you can't even keep them in a pillowcase without them flying out somehow
Diablo-D3: heh.
Diablo-D3: thats only because of nude women
Diablo-D3: they always want pillow fights
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
benkay: bosses want like 40 hours per week out of programmers
mircea_popescu: not women's fault
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.285 = 5.14 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the fuck?
Diablo-D3: benkay: which is actually fine
benkay: but I find an upper limit on my creative productivity at like 32
Diablo-D3: I program _more_ than 40 hours a week
Diablo-D3: the thing is
benkay: you probably also spend more time programming than I do
Diablo-D3: dont expect me to be doing anything than thinking about the problem for that.
benkay: i spend most of my time learning
Diablo-D3: btw, Ive found something rather productive
lippoper1: dude
Diablo-D3: macvim does fullscren.
lippoper1: let's make an alt coin with some benefits
lippoper1: that sounds like a great Diablo programmer task
Diablo-D3: benkay: I subscribe to the perl hubris type of school
Diablo-D3: 90% thinking 10% actual coding
benkay: that's why i'm diving into clojure
Diablo-D3: why code it wrong 4 times when you can code it right once
lippoper1: that's my approach to life
lippoper1: that's why I barely do anything
Diablo-D3: seriously, if your code has bugs you probably didnt think enough
ThickAsThieves: that approach probly works better with coding than with life
benkay: i'm at a point in my development where i need to fail and iterate rapidly
ThickAsThieves: sometimes you just gotta do something
benkay: in my development development :)
Diablo-D3: like, Ive been trying to make a very fast malloc for single threaded apps
lippoper1: I sit there and I think about it for 90% of the time
Diablo-D3: I keep whamming right into KISS hard
ThickAsThieves: i'm a fan of iteration and learning by doing
benkay: did you grow into being able to see the right approach? or were you always a 90% think, 10% crank guy
ThickAsThieves: i'm also not a programmer
lippoper1: then I just come to the conclusion that with the remaining 10% of the time I will not be able to do it to the best of my ability and move on
Diablo-D3: benkay: I kind have always been that
Diablo-D3: I'll rapidly iterate multiple designs during the 10% though
benkay: Diablo-D3 how long have you been at it?
Diablo-D3: hrm, awhile
Diablo-D3: Ive been doing C for like 15 years
Diablo-D3: and Im 29
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
benkay: coming up on mastery, it sounds like
lippoper1: wow you're sexy and you're 30
benkay: do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
benkay: or 17?
benkay: how was your process different then?
truff1es: <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30>>>> hmmm
ThickAsThieves: i was programming qbasic when i was in highschool, and some pascal, it was useful to learn coding concepts, especially since i got into web design after, but coding is much too tedious for me
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]
benkay: heh
ThickAsThieves: not the kind of brain i have
benkay: that was directed at Diablo-D3
benkay: buuuut, ThickAsThieves, what kind of brain *do* you have? where do you pull the currencies in from?
ThickAsThieves: i excel at other things
benkay: ...
ThickAsThieves: surely we dont need to turn this into more of a circle jerk
lippoper1: anyone want to mine some PPC?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8490998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.84909999 = 9.2455 BTC [+]
lippoper1: anyone mine FTC?
lippoper1: anyone in here mining?
Diablo-D3: [02:44:44] <benkay> do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
Diablo-D3: benkay: I was programming before that, C wasnt my first language
Diablo-D3: its just my favorite
Diablo-D3: I dont remember much of programming back then
Diablo-D3: [02:44:37] <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30
Diablo-D3: [02:44:42] <lippoper1> ;-)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000725 = 10.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86979999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.285 = 7.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
lippoper1: (2:55:05 PM) Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
Uglux: what is this? prison chat?
Uglux: :>
Diablo-D3: damnit, john k is still tallying those bids
error4733: its ok for you
Diablo-D3: THE SUSPENSE IS… well, not really doing anything for me at all. I get dividends no matter what.
error4733: 8@53 ?
Diablo-D3: I just wanna know if that 53 btc bid went through
lippoper1: was it yours?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000725 = 7.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9 = 5.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.94 = 11.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.95 = 9.75 BTC [+]
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.79999, Best ask: 142.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 142.81200, 24 hour volume: 70443.15925752, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.37852
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.96 = 19.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 3 @ 0.36016613 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.305 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 2 @ 0.6489861 = 1.298 BTC [-]
Uglux: mike is a good eater
kakobrekla: the title should be bitcoin for kindergarden kids
Diablo-D3: results posted
Diablo-D3: AHAHHA
Diablo-D3: I WIN
kakobrekla: interesting
Uglux: nerdgasm
kakobrekla: teek has ordered 10 units
kakobrekla: while not paying out his debts
kakobrekla: ;;getrating teek
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User teek, rated since Mon Jul 30 21:46:10 2012. Cumulative rating 4, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details:
mircea_popescu: what debts he had ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00072584 = 0.9073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00315598 = 13.4129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.462 = 0.924 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00073602 = 2.3876 BTC [+]
dub: heh
dub: aethero isnt a scammer, everyone is just out to get him
kakobrekla: no bitcoin for me-come back 1 year
mircea_popescu: The reason ZIGGAP is not currently up is because my competition has been selectively scamming me. You see the following organizations are all ran by the same group of organized crime and money launderers:
mircea_popescu: BitInstant
mircea_popescu: Coinbase
mircea_popescu: Coinabul
mircea_popescu: pretty good. so this is chiefly an issue of meds ?
mircea_popescu: BTCJam too
jurov: poor molecular, has to repay lost shipments in BTC after 6 months...
mircea_popescu: this makes a nice narrative. dwolla was created just to ach money through bitinstant before coinbase came about, all the while being in cahoots with mtgox and btcjam.
ThickAsThieves: like anyone cares about btcjam
mircea_popescu: you know who else is in cahoots with mtgox ? bitme and localbitoins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: whats with localbitcoins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.457 = 0.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003389 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
benkay: how is lbtc in bed with gox?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00355 = 0.071 BTC [+]
ezdiy: i knew it
ezdiy: so to get in the secret bitcoin market cabal one has to sell out half of the company, hmm
benkay: whatchoo mean, ezdiy?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3348 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
dub: I need some form of merit badge
dub: I'm the scam whisperer
kakobrekla: ;;rate dub 1 some form of merit badge
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
dub: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.199 = 0.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4611 = 2.3055 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 235 @ 0.01004 = 2.3594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.000725 = 10.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.305 = 22.185 BTC [+]
rikur: should be resolved as first miners have already been delivered and they are within +-10% of advertised specs (5.5 GH/s (+- 10% running variance))
ThickAsThieves: if so, then the July one is also resolved
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00338 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
rikur: ThickAsThieves: agreed
rikur: both should be resolved
rikur: I only have a small vote on the May one :)
rikur: very risky bet, but seems like it paid off
ThickAsThieves: it will be debated surely
ThickAsThieves: not sure which side I would lean toward
ThickAsThieves: they do appear to have shipped more than just testing units
ThickAsThieves: they use more power than originally anticipated
ThickAsThieves: but the bet says "advertised specs"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.3045 = 13.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3049 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you know in retrospect... that aethero post
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.305 = 11.745 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: and does not limit when those specs can be advertised
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what's the take away. the dazzling display of paranoia
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3099 = 2.6198 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it was probly just a diversion
deadweasel: it's really thick on that post. somebody is using too many drugs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30997 = 13.0997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: or the fact that bitcoin "businesses" and "infrastructure" are so shitty someone could end up with the impression he's being targetted
mircea_popescu: whereas they just naturally fail to work
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30998 = 13.0998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.312499 = 3.9375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3199 = 39.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
deadweasel: an unhealthy dose of paranoia and a shitty infrastructure = ranting and raving.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32475 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [+]
savetheinternet: hey dumbasses
savetheinternet: how are you all doing tonight
jurov: fine till you arrived
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it's "Dumas"
dub: mircea_popescu: I got a distinctly manic response from him when I asked his wife about the legality of her internet bakery
truff1es: why r u asking wifes anything...
rikur: ThickAsThieves: the product page has never mentioned any wattage, just GH/s. I pre-ordered products twice and never saw wattage mentioned anywhere, so if you ask me the No voters are just coming up with excuses.
dub: mircea_popescu: this was 6 months or so back, I assumed there was a train wreck coming at that point
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.9011 = 26.6154 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: rikur, I could swear that there used to be power specs on the page, also that the advertised GHs used to be higher for some products
ThickAsThieves: however even if so, what's advertised now, is still techincally meeting the terms of the bet text
ThickAsThieves: as it does not specify which specs advertised would be used
mircea_popescu: i think it was said a thousand times that a. specs are hash and power and b. the specs at the time of the bet count
ThickAsThieves: its not said in the bet
mircea_popescu: it is, inasmuch as it doesn't say otherwise.
ThickAsThieves: does that mean if specs were changed in the advertisment before the newer bets, that those specs will be referred to?
FabianB_: !t m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067147 / 0.00070786 / 0.00073602 (795906 shares, 563.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00069667 / 0.00073762 (2506507 shares, 1,746.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069187 / 0.00073891 (10333478 shares, 7,149.47 BTC)
kakobrekla: they were advertising 1gh/w
kakobrekla: big time
kakobrekla: you cant go around that
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves which do you mean ?
ThickAsThieves: not sure when they changed teh advertised specs
jborkl: they, since last year- have advertised 1gh/w
ThickAsThieves: but if a bet was made after that
jborkl: only recent changed
ThickAsThieves: then should not those specs be used
ThickAsThieves: made = created
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you can check the internet archive for the webby around the time the bet was made, no difference at all IIRC
mircea_popescu: well, since now bfl is not only a scammy piece of shit on all the other counts,
ThickAsThieves: and how do we determine what date the specs advertised were changed
mircea_popescu: but also on the count of altering specs
mircea_popescu: i would guess only bets clearly specifying it would be allowed.
jborkl: I do not have a bet at all
mircea_popescu: at the time these bets were allowed bfl hadn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000001 = 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.32 = 5.76 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 't pulled this particular dirty trick yet.
jborkl: but to me it would be clear that the specs are failed for the bet
ThickAsThieves: rikur you are wrong
ThickAsThieves: i'm pretty sure specs changed
jborkl: the Jala is much faster than specd and uses much more power
rikur: ThickAsThieves: just check the internet archive
mircea_popescu: fascinating what people are willing to say for a dime thi.
ThickAsThieves: no thanks
mircea_popescu: rikur you are lieing and you know it, stop already.
ThickAsThieves: wayback machine sux
ThickAsThieves: its only marginally useful
ThickAsThieves: particularly on dynamic pages
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you apparently don't know how the wayback machine works
ThickAsThieves: more that i dont care
ThickAsThieves: but sure
ThickAsThieves: you got me
rikur: mircea_popescu: sorry but no I
rikur: m not :)
mircea_popescu: quite clearly stated on their own forum. release specs : jalapeno 4.5 at 4.5 ; single 60 at 60 mini 1500 at 1500
ThickAsThieves: rikur did you look at those images mp just linked?
mircea_popescu: it's in the screenshot and ffs everyone knows it already.
kakobrekla: also says _FINAL_ spec
rikur: But I hope whoever resolves it really goes through the arguments and doesn't just pick one on a whim
ThickAsThieves: i do think them changing the specs advertised is sneaky
ThickAsThieves: and would find it amusing if that turned the bet
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ya, well, bitbet isn't betsofbitcoin
jborkl: it also is running at 5.8 gh on average - so it fails at 5gh bet also
ThickAsThieves: also, rikur, it is not in your best interest to rush bet resolution
ThickAsThieves: just in case BFL fixes the specs
ThickAsThieves: and meets original claims
ThickAsThieves: more obviously
rikur: ThickAsThieves: those posts are from last year, when the bet was created the product page only advertised GH/s.
mircea_popescu: what are they doing anyway, 28 gh/s at 150w or ?
ThickAsThieves: prove it
jborkl: Jalapeno is doin 5.8 and approx 30w
kakobrekla: rikur so you would have been ok with a box of gpus?
ThickAsThieves: also, its likely that the forum posts stille xist
ThickAsThieves: or are quoted
ThickAsThieves: is a forum post an advertisement?
kakobrekla: this is.
ThickAsThieves: it does say "announcem,ent"
rikur: but not advertisement :)
kakobrekla: ofc is advertisment
kakobrekla: its their forum
mircea_popescu: why does someone care about the 4 april 2013 snapshot ?
rikur: That's the oldest Jalopeno page on wayback machine, it's after the bet but hey, it's better than nothing. Do you have a product page that has wattage mentioned anywhere? Didn't think so :p
mircea_popescu: so wait wait.
mircea_popescu: 's after the bet but hey ?
mircea_popescu: Y and 11 others followed you
mircea_popescu: dude i'm hot stuff.
kakobrekla: well you can see the jalapeno went from 1 usb cable
kakobrekla: to 2 usb cables
rikur: mircea_popescu: please show me a single product page link that has wattage mentioned, from any date. If you don't have one, I think the April 4th link is valuable :)
kakobrekla: to usb cable and a brick
rikur: kakobrekla: has nothing to do with performance though :)
jborkl: mircea_popescu, it is running at 5.8 -from very reliable sources - so the bet is a fail
kakobrekla: it has
mircea_popescu: so you think the link is valuable, good for you.
kakobrekla: peformance is gh/s/w
rikur: jborkl: wrong, the advertised performance was with +-10% variance and the bet said that it has to be +-10% of that
deadweasel: also, it should not crap out in two weeks time..
mircea_popescu: jborkl tbh, the +- there is to be construed in their favour. at least this hash, no more than this wattage sort of thing.
kakobrekla: accually
deadweasel: that will be interesting... which bfl catches fire first?
kakobrekla: the case was not in the 10%
mircea_popescu: i don't think they'd count as failed for overdelivering
kakobrekla: case is much bigger
kakobrekla: peformance is also density
rikur: kakobrekla: size of a unit has nothing to do with performance, don't be silly
jborkl: oh, I would have rear the bet +- of 5gh or w\e
jborkl: read
kakobrekla: rikur they failed on so many levels you can just pick one favourite
jborkl: well, it was supposed to warm coffee also, it failed there also
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves rikur still thinks the web archive is valuable.
mircea_popescu: "Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem." << that's where the 10% came from im pretty sure.
mircea_popescu: as in, whoever put the bets in trying to match whatever bfl was claiming at the time
rikur: ThickAsThieves: that's not an an advertisement. Forum moderators claims/behaviour can't be used against a company in court.
rikur: It's not just in case of BFL, but for any forum posts
ThickAsThieves: what does court have to do with it
rikur: ThickAsThieves: they're the ones that eventually solve conflicts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4749 = 4.749 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the account is called BFL_office ;'/
rikur: I might sue over this for sure :)
ThickAsThieves: ad·ver·tise·ment [ad-ver-tahyz-muhnt, ad-vur-tis-muhnt, -tiz-] noun
ThickAsThieves: 1. a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc.
ThickAsThieves: 2. a public notice, especially in print.
ThickAsThieves: 3. the action of making generally known; a calling to the attention of the public
rikur: mircea_popescu: it only costs <300$ and I would win more bitcoins in this case, so it would be worth a shot
mircea_popescu: that's the term of art.
rikur: mircea_popescu: thanks, but I know my rights well enough
mircea_popescu: the problem would seem to be you imagine much more than you know.
rikur: sure
ThickAsThieves: rikur, your only argument is that the bet does not state what date of advertisement would be used, and you already see where mp lies on that
rikur: ThickAsThieves: nope, my argument is that the product page has never advertised wattage and I know this since I've ordered from them twice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00343999 = 0.0103 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: your anecdotal experience is not a factor
rikur: thus wayback machine
kakobrekla: where you ordered it from and what you have read has nothing to do with what they stated
ThickAsThieves: it's not just up to MP tho, he has a crew that decided the resolution
ThickAsThieves: so cross your fingers
ThickAsThieves: or tamper the jury pool
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
rikur: no like I said I just hope that they realy look into the arguments properly and take their time to resolve it in a fair way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4571 = 8.2278 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: they will
kakobrekla: or sue, obviously
mircea_popescu: betty sue
ThickAsThieves: peggy sue
ThickAsThieves: a boy named sue
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <+AssetBot> [Cado.AvalonB3] 1 @ 0.05000000 = 0.05000000 [+]
ThickAsThieves: and you thought people were overpaying for blades
ThickAsThieves: that is 1/11000 of an Avalon
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what that is.
ThickAsThieves: it's an asset on BitFunder
ThickAsThieves: guy is breaking up 3 Avalons on order into 33000 shares
kakobrekla: hey hey i got proprietary rights on that syntax
kakobrekla: scam.
ThickAsThieves: talk to Jezz
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, i think thats the guy who runs the BF bot
kakobrekla: say no more!
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 33000 * 0.05
gribble: 1650
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha what ?
mircea_popescu: eh get out.
ThickAsThieves: sales started at .03 tho
ThickAsThieves: so not AS bad
ThickAsThieves: but still
mircea_popescu: two hundred grand for three avalons ? what is this, sparta ?
ThickAsThieves: horrible
mircea_popescu: what are avalons anyway, 60 gh ?
jborkl: 88
ThickAsThieves: shit i'm so stupid, I shouldve boght AM blades amd then IPO'd at 10x
kakobrekla: yeah douches do that.
kakobrekla: or maybe is just peoples maff
kakobrekla: not sure on this one
mircea_popescu: so wait.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 88 * 3 / 1650
gribble: 0.16
ThickAsThieves: i think this is also evidence that a split share AM asset would do well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4729 = 5.6748 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: srsly ? 0.16 gh/btc ?
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1650 * 142 / 88 / 3
gribble: 887.5
mircea_popescu: 900 dollah PER GH ?!
mircea_popescu: this is more than gpus wtf.
ThickAsThieves: oh you have to pay elec + 1% mgmt fee too
kakobrekla: ztex fpga roughly
jborkl: not smart investment
jborkl: to say the least
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well i'm not even counting the usual scammy " X % of shares are reserved for management" with sliding X
mircea_popescu: that's par foer the course
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000725 = 7.5038 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 80-100 mh/s gpus are about 70-100 bux neh ?
kakobrekla: 50 bux is 250 mhash or so
ThickAsThieves: you can get a 7970 for like 340
ThickAsThieves: which does about 680/s on litecoin (more profitable)
kakobrekla: 5770 is 250 at ~50 bux
kakobrekla: at 110w
mircea_popescu: insanity.
ThickAsThieves: ignoranity
benkay: or you can buy a rack of gpus in a 6u mount from Elemental Technologies
benkay: stick it someone else's data center
benkay: their bread and butter is on-demand transcoding, so they may know what's up w/r/t box design
benkay: i'm about 1/10th of the way into talking my way into free development boxes from them
benkay: which i will ship to iceland
benkay: and generate bitcoins from geothermal power
benkay: or litecoins w/e
mircea_popescu: doesn't this look more like a snowdick ?
benkay: wee bit lumpy
benkay: my sample size for comparison isn't statistically valid tho
mircea_popescu: "Mircea Popescu once again demonstrates his utterly superior intellect: < Deep insight, prescience. Relentless logic."
mircea_popescu: ok, which one of you is this ?
ThickAsThieves: not me, but I do love the word prescience
unbalanced_: Not I, but good post man!
mircea_popescu: this is a fine example of why you shouldn't take twitter seriously.
dub: 250mh from 5770?
mircea_popescu: also i hope nassim taleb reads that and gets all pissed off.
dub: i was lucky to break 200 and running so hot they barf after a few hours
mircea_popescu: ya but you're not cool enough.
mircea_popescu: also not running on geopornal thewor.
benkay: geopornal thewor
benkay: geonormal tower
benkay: log-normal grower
mircea_popescu: fogdood.
benkay: dello? this is hog.
mircea_popescu: bwahayha
Scrat: pig benis
benkay: penistower power!
Chaang-Noi: im a goat!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45711 = 4.5711 BTC [-]
benkay: Pope Mercey
benkay: fuck
benkay: Pope Mercy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
benkay: that's actually not a bad name for an ultradom like you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4724 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the pope, the antipope and the mercypope
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4724 = 2.8344 BTC [+]
jurov: and its rota
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00072792 = 4.6587 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4601 = 2.7606 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47239 = 3.3067 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47239 BTC [+]
inhies: well
inhies: lets hope the july bet gets closed soon :)
inhies: "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win - in such cases bets are closed and paid early instead. "
jurov: btw just got a "why hammering nails with microscope" idea
inhies: seems like it should be closed early assuming the verdict is yes, the latest deliveries count
jurov: why casascius coins aren't charged after successful delivery only?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45651 = 4.5651 BTC [-]
jurov: no trouble with insurance and btc rate then...
mircea_popescu: i think they also have gold content no ?
jurov: the 1btc ones do not.. and the 5btc only plating
Chaang-Noi: 5btc is solid nickle
Chaang-Noi: 25 btc is plating
Chaang-Noi: 10 btc is silver
Chaang-Noi: and the 1000 btc is gold
mircea_popescu: wait, 1k btc is gold ?
Chaang-Noi: the 25 btc is gold plated
mircea_popescu: 1k btc = what, 100 oz fine gold /
Chaang-Noi: 1000 btc coin is solid gold .999 i has one
Chaang-Noi: its 1 oz
mircea_popescu: ia but what, 1 ounce ? lol k.
mircea_popescu: so tghen still irrelevant, jurov's point stands
Namworld: 1 oz of gold, + 1000 BTC key
Chaang-Noi: he has gold plated bars at 100 500 and 1000
Namworld: Inside it
Namworld: The coin itself is irrelevant, almost
Chaang-Noi: yeah, an oz of gold? fuck that lol
mircea_popescu: Namworld making the coin's value 99.9% btc
Namworld: Pretty much
mircea_popescu: here's this fine gold coin
Namworld: I'll take it wooden for all I care.
mircea_popescu: the gold in it is pretty much irrelevant.
Chaang-Noi: i did buy it when btc was worth much less than now
Namworld: Like, the sticker and key would burn in a fire anyway
Namworld: So why not a polished wooden coin?
Namworld: Stylish
Chaang-Noi: i have a bunch of the 10 btc silver ones and got them when 10 btc = an oz of silver
Chaang-Noi: my coins are in a 2 hour rates fire proof safe. no fire lol
Namworld: Firefighters take their sweet time, fire burns for 2.1 hour
Namworld: Hmm... do fireproof rating applies to content burning?
mircea_popescu: Namworld polished hardwood is pretty much impossible to catch on fire anyway
Namworld: Because plastic would melt way before burning
mircea_popescu: actually some plastic is thermosetting. it never melts.
Namworld: Yeah, idk what casascius uses...
jurov: biodegradable cellophane?
jurov: :D
mircea_popescu: whale mucus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.469899 = 4.2291 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.266 = 2.532 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : chemically, cellophane, rayon and cellulose are polymers of glucose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Namworld: Whale mucus? Why not ambergris? "Keeps that fresh Bitcoin smell longer than the competition!"
dub: at a guess I'd say he uses recycled mcdonalds burger wrappers
dub: which he will have in plentiful supply
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: namworld a house almost never burns for more than 30 mins, there is no way that safe will get damaged
Chaang-Noi: well the coins
Chaang-Noi: the only plasic on the coins is the holograms
benkay: namworld are you really counseling someone to dial down their fire insurance?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.013001 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol i dont think iv ever seen anyone type out ambergris or even know someone who knew what it was
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: namworld how do you know so much about whale vomit?
mircea_popescu: i know what it is.
Chaang-Noi: such a silly thing to know wh?
mircea_popescu: cause it's like very expensive
mircea_popescu: and also used in perfumery
Chaang-Noi: yeah it is
mircea_popescu: so that's two good reasons.
mircea_popescu: also he's canadian, thus weird.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698999 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i bet the have a lot of whales in canada
Chaang-Noi: maybe that is why
dub: I hear theres some moosecock in space atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4698999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i slept 4 hours last night... if that...
Chaang-Noi: getting up before the sun is weird to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.456001 = 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.4999 = 4.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19987 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1999 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00072792 = 1.3103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00073999 = 0.3448 BTC [+]
truff1es: dont the days go by so quickly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00073999 = 7.0551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00074202 = 1.3104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074004 = 2.1831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074202 = 3.7101 BTC [+]
dub: hrm AM offline on guild
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 78723.6093007
mircea_popescu: and yet...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2998 BTC [+]
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dub: lol
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kakobrekla: Then stop demanding hard and fast timeframes for things that we can't give hard and fast timeframes for. Simple as that. I say multiple times "We aren't sure when <fill in the blank>" and a chorus of people respond back "BUT GIVE US AN ESTIMATE!!!!" Repeat that about
kakobrekla: 20x and that describes the past 6+ months. Like I said earlier in this thread (or maybe it was another one) - the timelines were doled out long before I came on board with BFL. I have worked with what I was handed for this product cycle. Future product cycles, assuming I have
kakobrekla: the final authoritative say in the matter, will not contain shipping dates or definitive timelines. The one and only answer to "When?" is "When it's done." If you get something other than that from me on future product cycles, you'll either get it by that date or I have been
kakobrekla: overridden in my stance of not providing dates. I fully realize this statement will probably sneak up and bite me in the ass at some unspecified future date due to reasons I can't possibly imagine at the moment.
kakobrekla: fuck me
mircea_popescu: lmao spam!
kakobrekla: twas a bit much
mircea_popescu: stop demanding things in exchange for your money
mircea_popescu: this is bitcoin!
mircea_popescu: repost my article, get the site name wryng
mircea_popescu: priceless.
peterl: polymedia? there should be a good joke in there somewhere ...
mircea_popescu: i guess there must be
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.47498 = 4.7498 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so a little ago i used a flavoured condom to buttseks. the girl is now claiming she can taste teh flavour.
mircea_popescu: isthispossible.jpg
kakobrekla: taste the flavour by licking what?
mircea_popescu: not by licking anything.
taub: ... gox should offer volume discounts based on $ value
taub: not btc
taub: i hate them so much :(
truffles: 'Alcohol enemas': A frightening new hazing trend?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu did you also give her a vodka filled tampon?
thestringpuller: btw mircea_popescu your april 2013 MPOE report was empowering...
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assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: You really rallied the troops in that one.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4651 = 0.9302 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: could you elaborate this statement a little more: Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed
mircea_popescu: that entire max keiser & co meets mtgox lag episode
thestringpuller: but are you saying it's a war against the speculators?
mircea_popescu: speculation is one thing.
mircea_popescu: this idiocy where "We all believe the US is the best in the world therefore it is because we agree" programme is not speculation, it's marauding stupidity.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a right phenomena. it's natural enemy is the left. this means the horde of like minded lemmings.
mircea_popescu: this is the meaning of "decentralised".
taub: Loss : -2`320.17106571 BTC
taub: ouch :(
thestringpuller: enemy of the left?
thestringpuller: you mean socialism in general?
taub: enemy of the collectivists
mircea_popescu: anyone who expects solutions to problems come from the group is left.
mircea_popescu: anyone who expects solutions come from the individual is right
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much the whole story there.
thestringpuller: but even you depend on a group for mpex...non?
thestringpuller: or am I viewing this from a confused viewpoint?
ThickAsThieves: but but what about groups of individuals?
mircea_popescu: i think so. how do i depend ?
dub: why use condom?
kakobrekla: we all depend on blockchain ;)
dub: what point in cornholing if it aint bareback
thestringpuller: You depend on MPOE-PR for you PR. You have a board of directors you refer to for advice as quoted here: "Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed" it is implied this "we" is a collective.
mircea_popescu: dub pff. i always use condoms.
dub: prude
thestringpuller: quoted here: " been working hard taking apart and examining the price model"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but what's one to do with the other ?
dub: so an occaisional UTI results. deal with it
mircea_popescu: dub hehe i am dealing with it.
dub: take your vitamins
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I misquoted I'm sorry. I meant the latter.
thestringpuller: "We've been working hard..." is the key phrase
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no i get that part. but what's me having a board / employees to do with the group mindset ?
thestringpuller: Don't you all have to agree? Don't you bounce ideas off each other? Or is that still technically individualism?
taub: those groups are formed voluntarily
thestringpuller: When I think of pure individual contribution I think of people like Tesla.
taub: it's not a "everyone has to do their share or else" kinda deal
mircea_popescu: but what's "pure individual contribution" to do with anything ?
ThickAsThieves: i think mp's point may be when individuals release power of problem solving to a group
mircea_popescu: listen, there's kids sitting togetgher in a class. this is ideologically neutral.
mircea_popescu: there's kids working on the same homework. this is also ideologically neutral.
ThickAsThieves: or maybe rely on group thought?
mircea_popescu: if those kids were to go to the teacher and say "We're not doing our homework and you can't punish us cause you'd hacve to punish the whole class", that's socialist bs.
mircea_popescu: yet this is the "solution" of idiots since forever.
mircea_popescu: in the case at hand, "we will all buy btc and the price can only go up because of it and so we will all become millionaires"
ThickAsThieves: but that rgument seems to be used quite often by the right
mircea_popescu: they were going to pull themselves up by their own pants.
taub: using it already deadweasel :)
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as it is used it's fakeright
taub: hope their live trading gets rolled out soon
deadweasel: how do you like it?
kakobrekla: its gonna suck
taub: its good, very stable stream
kakobrekla: its gonna be as bad as mtgox
taub: well yes, it's just a link to mtgox
kakobrekla: exactly
kakobrekla: thats why its gonna suck
taub: but its easier to trade directly off the charts than to log into the site and enter the order every time
deadweasel: use goxtool
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu isn't that a different issue altogether, as you state in your fact, "You can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"
taub: somehow buying doesnt work on there for me
thestringpuller: can't type today
mircea_popescu: where's the difference
dub: sierra should lease an API/socket feed
deadweasel: did you put in the api key? gox --add-secret=
deadweasel: goxtoo*
taub: yea, i can sell, but the buy function doesn't work dunno
deadweasel: balls
deadweasel: oh well. i don't trade enought to purchase charting sfotware. but i want it.
dub: have you got permissions set in gox?
dub: deadweasel: can you run the native feed without paying?
taub: yes, the window for order entry doesn't appear
deadweasel: using windows?
taub: putty
thestringpuller: i'm using putty too
deadweasel: ya, change to xterm r6
dub: dont use putty
deadweasel: i forget the settings tab
dub: use kitty
deadweasel: ^ even bettah
deadweasel: but if you're already running putty, i know how to fix the keyboard fkeys issue.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is no difference is there? The group came up, with Max Keiser as their defacto leader, "We can pull ourselves up by our belts", whereas that is a physical impossibility, yet people believed it anyways because other people "said it was so". No?
dub: kitty is putty
dub: putty is no longer maintained
taub: i'm already using some putty variant with clickable urls
deadweasel: then feed that kitty and putt it across the room!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00072615 = 3.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.000725 = 1.6675 BTC [-]
taub: doesn't work in kitty :[
thestringpuller: Good news mircea_popescu: "Facebook Is Losing Millions Of Users In The US And Other Mature Markets"
nospinzy: I WONDER WHY
nospinzy: cause all the narsasists have taken over
taub: okay i got it working deadweasel, had to change the keyboard settings, ty
nospinzy: and making people rage quit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.4588 = 2.9176 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: how doe facebook lose users anyway? people actually take the time to close accounts?
nospinzy: analytics
nospinzy: you can see how many people come to your website...
nospinzy: its pretty basic
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: people go inactive, someone not logging in for X time is considered the same as losing a user to the social media world.
thestringpuller: as it depends on an active user base
ThickAsThieves: then they should just comment on user activity
ThickAsThieves: not user loss
ThickAsThieves: but i get it i guess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea: the gold in the casascius coin is a TEOTWAWKI "backup."
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well it'd have to be the end of PART of the world then
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2799 = 2.5598 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: new idea. 7.62x39mm round with built-in BTC chip.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for those who await the lead, rather than the gold, standard.
mircea_popescu: dude copumpkin is a twitter badass. check out what he dug up
mircea_popescu: Sexism is both discrimination based on gender and the attitudes, stereotypes, and the cultural elements that promote this discrimination. Given the historical and continued imbalance of power, where men as a class are privileged over women as a class (see male privilege), an important, but often overlooked, part of the term is that sexism is prejudice plus power. Thus feminists reject the notion that women can be sexis
mircea_popescu: t towards men because women lack the institutional power that men have.
mircea_popescu: also they reject e=mc2 as a sexed equation,
mircea_popescu: because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ho hum. there's a whole dark underworld of this crud, esp. in the U.S.; and the perpetrators are often salaried academics and their flunkies.
mircea_popescu: salaried pseudoacademics
mircea_popescu: doing whatever "social sciences" a la women's research or w/e
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actual academics mostly went extinct after ww2. (you'll meet the occasional one, preserved, like the occasional panda still alive in some zoo)
mircea_popescu: i am currently pining all hopes of universalist humanity on the taleb fellow
mircea_popescu: he's been doing off the deep end superbly on twitter.
dub: kweli
dub: ?
mircea_popescu: o look, she retweeted me too. dense is she.
mircea_popescu: dub nassim taleb
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assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22 = 2.44 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: aww grad school. poor modlbug
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.202 = 6.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
orkaa: hah, nassim
orkaa: i'm reading one of his books
orkaa: yeah, this one
orkaa: black swan
mircea_popescu: he's a clever fellow.
orkaa: yep, i like how he's questioning everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.45989998 = 2.9198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.46496 = 5.8598 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.46498 = 4.3949 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: is he really questioning everything?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19021 BTC [-]
mjr___: i loved antifragile
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17005 = 5.8503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17 = 5.85 BTC [-]
mjr___: it just felt so refreshing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.16914 = 9.3531 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: o hey mjr
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.167 BTC [-]
mjr___: hey guys
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.165 = 5.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.152 = 21.888 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: where have you been, you missed like 5 dudes rolling by on their skateboards announcing new exchanges
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.152 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1511 = 8.0577 BTC [-]
mjr___: kakobrekla: "The skateboard ride to Saks today was a little rough, but the skateboard back was great!" I am not joking that is the latest status update from coinsetter CEO...he's a nice guy
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.151 = 2.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.150101 = 11.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.1501 = 11.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [-]
mjr___: but i can't help but laugh after our convo in romania lol
mircea_popescu: he sounds like permafriendzoned
kakobrekla: WTF really?!
kakobrekla: poor guy
mjr___: i am not joking
mjr___: he's cool, he's in nyc
kakobrekla: you met him?
mjr___: yeah
mjr___: we were talking about working together, but couldn't get the equity to work...
mjr___: he already had prior investors etcf
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.13205 = 5.6603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
mjr___: they are opening sometime this summer i think?
mjr___: but mostly focusing on the shorting/margin side, from what i know...jaron from coinsetter
grubles: im selling my mpex account
grubles: if anyone is wanting one
grubles: there are no assets in it
grubles: it is mostly to get out of paying the ridiculous 30 btc fee
kakobrekla: mjr___ are they using gox or what
mjr___: grubles, how much?
mjr___: would you guarantee you won't retain the key?
mjr___: kakobrekla: not sure, but we just got market data working and order flow
truffles: whats on the radio now mjr?
mjr___: Gods and Monsters by Lana Del Rey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.000725 = 20.3363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13112 BTC [+]
truffles: Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness very nice
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.13 = 2.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.24 = 14.88 BTC [+]
grubles: mircea_popescu,
grubles: you around broseph
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2489 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
dub: hrm, got an ex specops buddy traveling to italy next week, should get him to pay alberto a visit
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: grubles sup
mjr___: mircea_popescu: hey what up
mircea_popescu: nothing much
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you are one of my favorite people
thestringpuller: if I bring you women can I hang out with you in Romania?
thestringpuller: I need a vacation...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2599 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.26 = 3.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
grubles: y u laffin
grubles: asicminer price?
mircea_popescu: the guy and his women
grubles: he is offering you women
grubles: why must you laugh
mircea_popescu: im just that sorta guy.
grubles: what, homo?
thestringpuller: so deal, 3 women for 1 night stay?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: (it feels like medieval times)
grubles: you can stay at my place if you have 3 women
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: where you gonna find 3 womenz.
grubles: strip bar
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