awt_akris[asciilifeform]: !!ticker btc usd
deedbot[asciilifeform]: $30,594
signpost[asciilifeform]: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-boosts-defenses-north-satellite-images-show-likely-wagner-base-belarus lol!!
signpost[asciilifeform]: where is Prigozhin’s oscar
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: Where is the best place to get ahold of phf's V these days? I have it, but I'm attempting to document the installation process for the new station and would like to link to a V.
signpost[asciilifeform]: It is present in my pentacle system
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: signpost: http://trinque.org is not loading for me at the moment. I am out of date on where you're hosting pentacle.
signpost[asciilifeform]: I did a dumb and emitted hsts headers from that domain; it's up but everyone's chrome who loaded it with https is stuck until removing them from w/e hsts cache, but I have another link, sec
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: Ah ok I can see it in a private tab.
signpost[asciilifeform]: awt_akris: http://problematic.site/src/pentacle.tar.gz http://problematic.site/src/pentacle.tar.gz.asc
signpost[asciilifeform]: should be able to just untar and bootstrap, and then inside the chroot it produces you'll have a gnat, vtools, etc
signpost[asciilifeform]: thing can fart out a trb for ya too.
signpost[asciilifeform]: all statically built, so the bins can be plucked out and used wherever.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: signpost: perfect! ty. was aware it could do this but link between v <-> pentacle somehow was deleted in my mind.
signpost[asciilifeform] would like to get back to development on it at some point. grander ambitions there than just a static builder, but useful as is for that.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: lol "A file named pentacle.tar.gz already exists in your downloads folder. Would you like to replace it?"
signpost[asciilifeform]: the eventual notion is that signed jobs containing a squashfs payload can be distributed to controlled machines via pest.
signpost[asciilifeform]: anyway, if bitgod wants me to continue to build this, he will tell me next year.
signpost[asciilifeform]: an aggressively censorship resistant stack is possible with pest, something like I described above, occ (aka squirt/slurp), etc
asciilifeform: re: censors, was thinking : possibly pest oughta take 1st 496 bytes of incoming packet (i.e. permit rng padding to random size within some range), station ops may need to trade 'no frags' for 'not making pesticity obvious to snoops by size'
asciilifeform: currently it is far too easy to zap pest traffic with ids rule 'length == 496'
signpost[asciilifeform]: yeah might make good sense.
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: signpost: currently seeing this error attempting to build pentacle: http://paste.deedbot.org/
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: hrm - paste is a bit messed up in akris.
signpost[asciilifeform]: what's line 104?
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: $DEB_DIR/target/src/chroot "$DEB_DIR" /target/src/pbuild install autoconf --nodeps
signpost[asciilifeform]: is there a shell at the place the shebang in src/chroot expects one on your system?
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: nope
signpost[asciilifeform]: interesting, what distro?
signpost[asciilifeform]: a temporary symlink to bash or a posix-ish shell oughta do ya
signpost[asciilifeform]: reqs on the host system are minimal but not zero
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: PopOS - Ubuntu variant.
signpost[asciilifeform]: ah maybe they did the "everything in /usr" thing
awt_akris[asciilifeform]: Sorry, I was incorrect, there in fact is a /bin/bash on my system.
signpost[asciilifeform]: running it over here on a bleeding edge gentoo
signpost[asciilifeform]: had to emerge dpkg but otherwise works fine
signpost[asciilifeform]: might consider putting -x in a few of the scripts and seeing where it's barfing
signpost[asciilifeform]: if you can get it to enter the chroot should be home free
signpost[asciilifeform]: sucks how the world drifts and breaks things like this, but it does.
signpost[asciilifeform]: shinohai: curious if you hit what awt did when you built.
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Nope, never had that issue. Pentacle built flawless for me (but on Gentoo, never PoopOS).
signpost[asciilifeform]: at some point I'll just break and sign a build
signpost[asciilifeform]: would really like multiple paths to that binary, but it's becoming a bit autistic at this point.
awt[asciilifeform]: Gonna test it out on a gentoo docker image
awt[asciilifeform]: I am aware this totally defeats the purpose of building on iron
awt[asciilifeform]: "Couldn't work out current architecture"
signpost[asciilifeform]: Needs dpkg
signpost[asciilifeform]: I thought debootstrap ran on it own but nope
shinohai[asciilifeform]: awt: mebbe would work with gentoo stage3 from mnt/, then you could say "Yo dawg, I heard you like chroots so I built you a chroot inside your chroot!"