cgra: is it already time to consider how online codes doable in integer/(lean-ada/fpga)-friendly math? plenty of floats atm
cgra: i suppose, if going to eventually lock into constant oc parameters, 'un-floating' not difficult (nfi about fpga...). may as well do it now, on numpy/scipy rng-isms replacement? but could keep max_check_block_degree (F) calculation as is, until parameters chosen
cgra: and afaict, ocpy-relevant numpy Generator's choice() and integers() here, but an apparent pointless puzzle, as phf suggested.
asciilifeform: cgra: 'unfloating' imho a+++ idea
asciilifeform will note tho that he did not have notion of stuffing lubyism decoder per se into fpga; rather, to use the latter as a pass-through packet filter, with regular comp receiving valid packets strictly
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere shinohai
dulapbot: shinohai last seen in #asciilifeform on 2022-11-30 14:36:28: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-11-30#1114242 << email received, did not unpeer but will dive in firther when back @ desk later.
asciilifeform: hrm nm, asciilifeform's bot not eats foo[bar|baz|etc] properly
phf: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021940 << first one is correct, xorshift1024_next is taken exactly from http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-01#1021924
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-02 05:48:49 cgra[jonsykkel]: afaict, ocpy's xorshift here, and maybe here.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-01 22:33:46 phf[deedbot|awt]: i assume "xorshift1024" that they use is from this paper https://vigna.di.unimi.it/ftp/papers/xorshift.pdf, but i'm not quite sure what sort of magic scipy's generator use to e.g. produce Generator(…).random() or choice() or any other results
phf: the second one is "jump" it lets you rotate the state equivalent to 2**512 individual generations. it is somehow used in parallel code…
cgra: phf, right. couldn't immediately tell whether this 'jump' would end up being useful or not
cgra: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021943 << valid signatures only or even broader validation? something that requires memory (like getdata flagging)?
bitbot[cgra|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-02 10:13:12 asciilifeform[4]: will note tho that he did not have notion of stuffing lubyism decoder per se into fpga; rather, to use the latter as a pass-through packet filter, with regular comp receiving valid packets strictly
billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-01-30#1021796 << i do think there would be a market for that here with expats who [thought that they] escaped the totalitarian west
bitbot[cgra|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-01-30 14:29:45 signpost: billymg thinks there is an expat community in CR that may buy this type of product.
billymg[cgra]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-01-30#1021803 << i'm in a similar mode currently. at some point towards the end of last year something finally flipped for me and i decided to fully embrace living on a farm/compound vs. the sort of "digital nomad" / "i'm just a tourist here" mindset i was stuck in before
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-01-30 14:34:27 signpost: yep, would like to hear more thoughts from billymg. I'm still sorta in get fiats, convert to buttcorn, ammo, and land mode, but not impossible to persuade.
billymg[asciilifeform]: i've been getting my hands dirty with actual physical work on the property, just this morning finished tearing down some old wooden shelves in the bodega in preparation for a remodel (tons of fun doing so with a sledge hammer)
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021952 << nah, simply 'martian or not', i.e. iron anti-ddos pill
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 12:56:12 cgra[jonsykkel|signpost]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021943 << valid signatures only or even broader validation? something that requires memory (like getdata flagging)?
asciilifeform: ( will note, asciilifeform not expects to actually bake these, because not knows how to bake any iron whatsoever economically )
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-01-30 14:36:13 asciilifeform[5]: the unfortunate thing is that the only 'cheap' iron is likely to be whatever you currently have, + what's in scrapyard
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021956 << actual farm, i.e. taking things to market ? (or simply home garden?)
bitbot[asciilifeform|cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 13:30:22 billymg[jonsykkel|awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-01-30#1021803 << i'm in a similar mode currently. at some point towards the end of last year something finally flipped for me and i decided to fully embrace living on a farm/compound vs. the sort of "digital nomad" / "i'm just a tourist
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1021954 << asciilifeform still wonders how many ~actually~ escaped, given observation 'where you actually live is where yer dough lives'
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-02-02 13:27:49 billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-01-30#1021796 << i do think there would be a market for that here with expats who [thought that they] escaped the totalitarian west
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: i don't even have a home garden, only some chickens
asciilifeform: billymg: even here lotsa folx have these nao
asciilifeform: cheap worm-to-food converter
billymg[cgra]: yeah, i didn't mean i'm prepping for when the grocery stores close
billymg[asciilifeform]: for one i don't think that will happen, and there are enough small farm operations in my area that i could probably barter with them
asciilifeform: a, saw 'farm/compound', assumed > 'backyard chicken'
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: there was just so much that needed to be done, it was overwhelming, realized i would have to get involved myself. can't just hire idiot contractor and not know what they're doing
billymg[asciilifeform]: when i got up into one of the ceiling recently to run the wire for a security cam system realized how bad things can turn out when you just let the contractor do it
asciilifeform personally not sees appeal of bananistan, after learned about prices, not only of real estate but extortionate import taxes, remailer fees, etc
asciilifeform: de gustibus non est disputandum (tm) tho.
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: don't need bananistan, plenty of rural parts of the US where you could do this
billymg[cgra] is not trying to convince asciilifeform, already knows the 9001 reasons why he can't/won't
asciilifeform: billymg: 'rural usa' tends to mean 'satellite net pipe' and (what can't buy from local farm) phood -- from lolmart
asciilifeform periodically looks into subj
billymg[asciilifeform] has cheap fiber here, believe it or not
asciilifeform: iirc phf got it to work (tho didn't say how much time/dough spends on 'going to town' to resupply)
asciilifeform: as asciilifeform understands, it only worx well 'as part of balanced diet' of actually socializing with the locals / building into meatwot
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: is what i'm doing now, and part of what i meant by no longer in the "digital nomad" / tourist mentality
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: billymg: got new passport yet ?
billymg[asciilifeform]: for instance, first remodeling project i did here pretty much just forked over dough to an expat, gave design direction, waited for result
billymg[cgra]: now i work with workers directly
asciilifeform spent a great deal of time remodeling w/ hands.
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: passport in costa rica is only after 5-7 years
billymg[asciilifeform|phf]: asciilifeform: it's nice, i like doing it
asciilifeform[cgra]: continuous?
billymg[cgra]: no, but in doses large enough for http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-05-31#1104372
bitbot[asciilifeform]: (asciilifeform) 2022-05-31 asciilifeform: juggling bits, interestingly, appears not to provide this basic nutrient. even on modern shitcomp, softs behave too much like ideal 'spherical horse' philosophical object, do not supply the needed contact with reality ( and, worse, dysfunctional in ways which ~actively promote~ ins
billymg[cgra]: or did you mean for passport? in that case, yes
billymg[cgra]: can take trips, but some limit on how long you can be away from the us
billymg[cgra]: away from cr i mean
billymg[asciilifeform]: no one here cares about anything though, see e.g.
bitbot[cgra|asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-01-09 13:55:41 awt: asciilifeform: I was in fact already stopped a few days after the limit. For some reason they let me off and gave me a fist bump.
billymg[asciilifeform]: so no real need for passport
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-01-09 14:10:58 asciilifeform: awt: not only report, but this appears to be enuff of a headache for'em that in many places they simply tell you to fuckoff if you've only us passport.
asciilifeform: reich won't letcha outta their tax plantation unless you have new 1
billymg[asciilifeform]: ah, not had that problem yet
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: that's true, still gotta file taxes every year
asciilifeform: not only file, but pay twice neh
billymg[cgra]: asciilifeform: to be fair though, i imagine you could even officially renounce, have it officially accepted, and still be shaken down at some later date if some bureaucrat is having a bad day and happens to notice you for whatever reason
billymg[asciilifeform]: There is no Rule of Law™
billymg[asciilifeform]: so why bother?
billymg[asciilifeform]: see, e.g. the "liberty reserve" guy
asciilifeform: billymg: not heard of a documented case of this actually happening to date. tho obv not impossible
asciilifeform: (outside of cases where victim voluntarily returned to usa)
signpost[cgra] learned recently that can't renounce on behalf of one's child, lol
billymg[cgra]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1022006 << i don't pay taxes twice, no
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 14:11:04 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|deedbot]: not only file, but pay twice neh
billymg[cgra]: cr doesn't tax foreign sourced income
asciilifeform: billymg: iirc usa inmate Officially owes tax even if living off reservation
asciilifeform: usa afaik the only jursdiction that does
billymg[asciilifeform]: signpost: not your child, belongs to the 'village'
signpost[cgra]: yup, beaten into one at every step of the journey.
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: right, but where's the "double"?
billymg[cgra] files taxes in the US with same accountant he was using when he resided there
asciilifeform: billymg: a, makes sense, not 'double' if cr not taxes foreign
signpost[cgra]: how are the property taxes?
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov, tho, 90% of the point of getting outta usa is to get outta their tax
billymg[asciilifeform]: 0.25% !
signpost[cgra] not in any rush, but might buy an exit option at some point.
signpost[cgra]: hot damn
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1022013 << afaik only worx 1-way, 'roach motel'-style (can enlist child into usg slavery, but not take out)
asciilifeform: unsurprise.
bitbot[asciilifeform|cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 14:12:50 signpost: learned recently that can't renounce on behalf of one's child, lol
billymg[asciilifeform]: signpost: re: non-pozzed security system market, i haven't done any of the exploration legwork yet, so still just a hunch that there would be demand for it
signpost[cgra]: can get her dual. kid's responsible for her own conscience from there. :)
asciilifeform: billymg: q is whether 'there's demand' at the price point where could actually make anyffin, rather than in abstract
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: right, that too
signpost[cgra]: https://github.com/OpenIPC << found this thing, and bought some cameras that purport to be supported. haven't had a chance to attempt reflash yet.
asciilifeform: ( elementarily, there 'is demand' for damn near anyffin, if price is ~= lolmart's )
signpost[cgra]: but open firmware can be had, apparently.
asciilifeform: signpost: asciilifeform quite disillusioned with chinesium 'linux cameras', they crash
asciilifeform: (why? not found out)
asciilifeform: ( and if anyone knows of 1 such where multi-yr uptimes, plox to post )
awt[cgra]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1022025 << see foreign earned income exclusion
bitbot[asciilifeform|cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 14:16:59 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|deedbot]: from asciilifeform's pov, tho, 90% of the point of getting outta usa is to get outta their tax
asciilifeform: awt: iirc the max exclusion is a pittance
awt[asciilifeform]: 112k is not a pittance me personally
asciilifeform: given 'the real inflation'(tm), will be in not too long
awt[cgra]: 30k here, 25k there, pretty soon you're talking big numbers.
signpost[cgra]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1022039 << will let ya know. no crashes out of this guy yet, but haven't paid close attention.
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 14:22:00 asciilifeform[5]: signpost: asciilifeform quite disillusioned with chinesium 'linux cameras', they crash
signpost[cgra]: ideally would like to put an open firmware on one and have the thing take commands over pest (move, zoom, etc) and fart out video feed probably over fountain code. something like that.
asciilifeform: signpost: asciilifeform was thinking of some non-obv. applications (e.g. camera pointed at sumthing nonseekrit, or at least sumthing you wouldn't mind yer l1 seeing, as a pill against 'gestapo steals errything, confiscates camera hdd' etc
asciilifeform: ( in context of auto-p2pwarez, that is )
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2022-12-28 18:58:31 asciilifeform[4]: hypothetically, if asciilifeform is in yer l1, you end up with a complete .../you/asciilifeform/*
signpost[cgra]: yep I'd participate in that. no problem with l1 being able to see me mowing the lawn, and thereby see if the pigs come blazing in without a warrant, etc.
asciilifeform: idea was moar of a 'l1-powered distributed backup disk' than 'they watch' but yes
signpost[cgra]: sure, that's useful too.
asciilifeform: prolly not so interesting w/out the shortwave replacement for reichnet, tho
asciilifeform: (atm 1st thing 'the pigs' do in an 'interesting' case is to cut yer net pipe)
phf: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-01#1021937 << i managed to get same result with same seeds from Xorshift1024.random_raw() and own common lisp implementation
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-01 23:56:16 phf[deedbot]: yeah, i got the seeds out of initialized Xorshift1024, and at this point i should be getting same number out of random_raw() as my lisp version, but no such luck
phf: this was not a complete waste of time, because involved porting c xorshift1024 to lisp and have it work correctly
signpost[cgra]: ah that's pretty cool.
signpost[cgra]: curious to see if your impl trounces mine in performance (which I hope!)
signpost[cgra]: should be very parallel friendly without python's limitations.
phf: which brought up an issue i've encountered before and never had a satisfying solution: there's no way to restrict lisp bit operations to produce direct rewrite of c code, without relying on non-portable hacks
phf: a non-portable solution (in sbcl/cmucl) is to crank up speed 3 safety 0, type annotate everything and then lisp will generate equivalent code that truncates values to specified types
phf: e.g. xorsfhit1024 becomes http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=UZma, and it still generates garbage on that last multiply (it bignums and then truncates, i can't figure out how to make it use a int64bit version of *)
phf: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-02-02#1022064 << i'm kind of hoping it'll outperform python single threaded, but seeing as how you use numpy all over the place maybe that won't be the case…
bitbot[cgra]: Logged on 2023-02-02 17:13:50 signpost[deedbot]: curious to see if your impl trounces mine in performance (which I hope!)