unpx[cgra]: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-01-10#1020359 <<< I see most people use it for availability and their free services (e.g. web hosting).
dulapbot: Logged on 2023-01-10 18:17:35 asciilifeform: billymg: already difficult to picture wtf one'd use e.g. shithub
awt[cgra]: They now do continuous integration, as well.
awt[cgra]: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $18248.36
awt[asciilifeform]: Sad times when such meagre price movement scraps provide any amount of entertainment.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: mornin' #pest
asciilifeform: wb crtdaydreams
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: woke up to go spraying awfully early (currently 0314 in oz) and ffs wind
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: hows progress on pestspec 0xFA?
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: slow. and may not update at all until get alpha version of 'pestilence' ( asciilifeform's gui pestron ) out; some of the spec details imho gotta be worked empirically.
asciilifeform doesn't expect the essentials of 0xfa to change much
asciilifeform unlikely to have the cycles to move quickly on this; ran outta winter holiday and back to commercial worx
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: hola shinohai o/
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform still outstanding questions of "bob v Bob" which proving to be big ugh (assuming this is what you were referencing as to requiring `emprical' solution
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: too much time in emacs, need parens matching soft for weechat :)
asciilifeform: crtdaydreams: nah, that one's imho well-settled q
asciilifeform: ( see thread )
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-01-08 16:08:56 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|deedbot|crawlerbot]: would seem that case-insensitive treatment of handles would win 0
asciilifeform: there are annoying details that so far ~not discussed, in re gui client (e.g. precisely in what order to display msgs -- e.g. if sorting by netchain, rather than time, how to display 'threads' ? and then need 'read/unread' mark? if so, how to handle? etc)
asciilifeform: ( and other details -- how to visually mark msgs with null self/net chain ? how to display chain linkages which aint to immed. preceding msg ? )
asciilifeform: most of this arguably not belongs in spec, but at same time has to be answered concretely to bake actual client
asciilifeform: ... on top of this, there are annoyances of the gui lib to work around.
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2023-01-09 23:04:17 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|deedbot|awt]: meanwhile, lulzily, found that the wx widget most suited to displaying log lines is atrociously slow on gtk/linux (blazing fast on crapple, for all the good that does asciilifeform) so will have
asciilifeform for instance, found that the knob for predicting pixel region occupied by $text dun actually work reliably with var-width fonts.
asciilifeform: ... nor is it possible in practice to use the platform-native text field with wrapping, links, etc and so has to be laboriously reimplemented 'by hand'
asciilifeform: ( native one, when you have 100+ of'em on the window -- dog-slow )
asciilifeform: ditto dog-slow if you use e.g. 1 of'em and update via 'inserts'
asciilifeform: annoyingly x9000 -- impossible to 'smooth scroll' the lines, the fast scroller that allows arbitrary array of lines rather than storing all text in memory can only scroll 1 full field up/down at minimum.
asciilifeform: ~all of this, again, quite orthogonal to protocol spec, but gotta be answered before can bake usable gui pestron.