billymg[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-23#1016798 << i have the black one with 24gb of ram. it's a great machine, can actually use on your lap without burning your legs
bitbot[busybot]: Logged on 2022-11-23 13:32:55 asciilifeform[5]: phf: moar re new crapples : on 'm2' fanless lappy, built ffa, and this benchmark ran in 1min 41s.
asciilifeform: billymg: so happens is same box asciilifeform bought (24G ram , 1TB disk)
asciilifeform: complete with the black paint (that possibly flakes off), is what they had in stock lol
billymg[busybot]: ha, yup, exact same specs
billymg[asciilifeform]: like they did with the m1 they'll eventually have the 'max' and 'ultra' (moar cores) versions out soon
billymg[asciilifeform]: soon more so than eventually i think
asciilifeform: billymg: moar cores, eat moar battery, tho
asciilifeform: so prolly not for the micro fanless lappy. but whoknows.
billymg[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: yeah, meant for the larger laptops and even desktops
asciilifeform: iirc they already sell a 2-cpu desktop variant
asciilifeform: brick-shaped thing
billymg[asciilifeform]: possibly this one? https://www.apple.com/mac-studio/specs/
billymg[asciilifeform]: with the M1
asciilifeform[busybot]: aha that
billymg[asciilifeform]: yeah, will switch over to M2 soon enough
asciilifeform would even buy it and try e.g. bsd on it, if the thing ate standard ssd
asciilifeform: (as it is, reportedly has proprietary disk, socketed but boobytrapped to work only with given machine, i.e. not replaceable)
billymg[busybot]: supposedly even their configurable-to-cost-of-new-BMW mac pro will switch over to the M2 next year (currently still intel xeon)
asciilifeform: 'cheese grater'(tm) aha
asciilifeform: afaik that's their 1 remaining box that takes standard parts
asciilifeform: (but imho uninteresting, who wants xeon knows where to get it without 'new bmw')
asciilifeform: non-replaceable ssd's on multi-$k 'pro' machines are a mega-lol imho.
asciilifeform: sorta like hypothetical 'bmw' where can't change tyres.
asciilifeform: got a flat? 'dun worry, it's recyclable, get 5% off new bmw when you send back the scrap heap'
billymg[busybot]: yeah, i think the cheese grater mac pro is really their last machine where you can drop in your own sticks of ram, m.2 ssds, maybe even GPUs
billymg[busybot]: sad about the 'pro' laptops losing swappable m.2 ssds
billymg[busybot]: was fairly recently that that happened
asciilifeform: with laptops at least excuse where 'most lusers smash the lcd before disk has chance to wear through'
billymg[busybot]: asciilifeform: unless they make the mistake of not upgrading the ram config and the thing swaps to disk 24/7
asciilifeform: or that.
asciilifeform: in 'good ol' days' of slow mech disks, at least would immediately notice if yer swapping
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $16542.33
billymg[asciilifeform]: speaking of btc price suppression, the criminal behind ftx not only not in handcuffs, but in fact speaking at some nytimes 'dealbook summit' https://www.nytimes.com/events/dealbook-summit#speakers
billymg[asciilifeform]: only adding for the log record, not because it's any surprise
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: karpeles iirc also walking around as if were a normal human
asciilifeform: (to prolly nobody's surprise. they're both working for the reich and did a++ work)
shinohai[busybot]: oh snap busybot down?
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Anywho got my lilygo watch in the post, am coding up a horrid bash script to assist with serial functions then gonna shove ulisp into it.