shinohai[asciilifeform]: crtdaydreams: Will echo asciilifeform, atmega328 (or similar) not worst I've ever tinkered with, can run ulisp even! http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-30#1011976
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-30 23:34:08 asciilifeform[5]: crtdaydreams: take e.g. this one, marketed to abject n00bs, has pretty good library for commonplace situations and virtually efforless toolchain setup
phf[asciilifeform]: does anybody have copies of the recent-ish taocp pdfs that have table of contents and internal links. the stuff that floats around and that i have are old scans
phf[asciilifeform]: it's the ones that are listed as ebooks here https://www.informit.com/promotions/art-of-computer-programming-books-and-ebooks-140521
phf[asciilifeform]: there used to be sample chapters posted, i think even at that link, but i can't find them anymore, but to quote knuth
phf[asciilifeform]: “These volumes are now available also in portable electronic form, using PDF format prepared by the experts at Mathematical Sciences Publishers. Special care has been taken to make the search feature work well. Thousands of useful "clickable" cross-references are also provided — from exercises to their answers and back
phf[asciilifeform]: , from the index to the text, from the text to important tables and figures, etc.
phf[asciilifeform]: i'll go out on a limb and say that i suspect that not a single digital copy of taocp that's circulating in pirate version has ever been read, and that it's all larp and chan style hoarding “got some lit warez bro, makes you smart”
phf[asciilifeform]: mathematical sciences publisher ebooks have been out for a while, and if there was a genuine need among “the people” to use taocp as reference material, they would've long been leaked
phf[asciilifeform]: i should just bite the bullet and buy the pdfs, but pearson are such utter grifters, the whole thing is disgusting. even the fact that they list “eBooks include EPUB, MOBI, and PDF formats.” where PDF, last, is carefully handcrafted by master texnicians from msp, where's epub and mobi are junk conversions by bottom fee
phf[asciilifeform]: ding scum.
phf[asciilifeform]: “ Unfortunately, however, non-PDF versions have also appeared, against my recommendations, and those versions are frankly quite awful. A great deal of expertise and care is necessary to do the job right. If you have been misled into purchasing one of these inferior versions (for example, a Kindle edition), the publishers
phf[asciilifeform]: have told me that they will replace your copy with the PDF edition that I have personally approved. Do not purchase eTAOCP in Kindle format if you expect the mathematics to make sense. (The ePUB format may be just as bad; I really don't want to know, and I am really sorry that it was released.)”
phf[asciilifeform]: oh yeah, i forgot that they also watermark the pdf, which i'm sure is done in the most aesthetically pleasing considered way, and not just an automated shit taken over a carefully crafted artifact
asciilifeform: phf: the only warez of taocp asciilifeform ever had was that shit scan
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-31#1012014 << asciilifeform freely admits to having seriously eaten such sections as were relevant to things he was doing at the time; most recently ffaism
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-31 08:54:01 phf[awt]: i'll go out on a limb and say that i suspect that not a single digital copy of taocp that's circulating in pirate version has ever been read, and that it's all larp and chan style hoarding “got some lit warez bro, makes you smart”
asciilifeform: *only such sections
asciilifeform: the 'cover to cover' read -- saving for prison...
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-31#1012020 << lulzily/apropos not long ago asciilifeform for 1st time in life actually 'bought pdf' of an obscure item where could not find warez at all; found riotously insulting that the author must've ocr'd and never bothered to fix the obv barf !
bitbot[asciilifeform]: Logged on 2022-08-31 09:12:10 phf[awt]: oh yeah, i forgot that they also watermark the pdf, which i'm sure is done in the most aesthetically pleasing considered way, and not just an automated shit taken over a carefully crafted artifact
asciilifeform: ( the offender, for public shame )
asciilifeform: worth to mention also the fact that he evidently formatted via microshit , with the characteristic ugh of broken-up tables etc
asciilifeform: normally could throw such thing in rubbish and fughet, but this piece was re a subj on which the texts can be counted on fingers of 1 hand; and, annoyingly, by far the best
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: have these in nonshit at least
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: inded with links yes
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: neato, seems to be the item 'with links' phf was referring to
asciilifeform: PeterL: evidently author did not know
PeterL[asciilifeform]: If you know what you are doing, you can get microshit to not break up tables, it is not too hard
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crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: tyty jonsykkel, also is the random 8-byte string there as tempdir?
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: crtdaydreams: its not a temp dir unles i delete it
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: i puted that in my uplode script just to prevent ppl from guessing urls
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: thought as much, but was unsure.
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: cannot webcrawl or browse a directory listing
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: ask in you shall recieve
crtdaydreams[asciilifeform]: ask and you shall recieve
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: dont have infinite space on my 1dolar sewer grade vps so it might wel become a temp dir in a few years
PeterL[asciilifeform]: in other words, if you want it grab it soon?
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: yes, clok ticking