awt[asciilifeform]: $ticker btc usd
busybot[asciilifeform]: Current BTC price in USD: $20026.41
awt[asciilifeform]: Damn I always miss the sub 20k level
asciilifeform misses 'abstractly', as has nobody to buy from (won't use goxes)
awt[asciilifeform]: A mutable web UI for pest might not be that hard to put together. Wouldn't even require js.
awt[asciilifeform]: lol why hope for cheapcoinz if even then you can't buy them?
shinohai[asciilifeform]: I won't KYC either, usually get BTC from shitcoin consulting, but the sad thing is *no one hires you* when exchange rate is this low. So haven't had any coins in months now. :(
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-06-29#1008237 << hypothetically, for some value of 'cheap', sumbody in l1 might offer to sell
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-29 10:33:18 awt[asciilifeform]: lol why hope for cheapcoinz if even then you can't buy them?
asciilifeform: shinohai: wai would the consulting dry up or otherwise depending on exch rate ?
shinohai[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: I believe their thought process to be "You charge $1K USD to do `x` job, paid in BTC - so we pay you 0.05 and then 1-2 weeks later price skyrockets and that 0.05 is worth $2500!!!!"
shinohai[asciilifeform]: i.e. they always think solely in fiat terms.
asciilifeform: hm but if they thought in fiat terms, and given that they aint averse to using goxes, would expect they'd think e.g. 'it's still 100$ no matter what exch rate is' neh
asciilifeform: i.e. client can walk straight to a gox and pay you the '100$' regardless of exch rate
asciilifeform: ( so long as takes care to do it at the time of the deal, rather than some unspecified later )
shinohai[asciilifeform]: One would think, but above is the main objection I get - nevermind that year or so later it could do exact same thing or even 4x in fiat terms.
shinohai[asciilifeform] suspects this is why so many folks now try to offer you "tether" coinz .....
asciilifeform: would naively expect algo would be 1) contract shinohai to do $job for $x 2) immediately buy $x of btc at gox 3) wait for $job result 4) send the coin
asciilifeform: then no 'exch risk'
shinohai[asciilifeform]: Folks in the shitcoin sewers rarely have ideas like that it seems, the folks behind "zclassic" being notable exception. Paid 50% of agreed fee up front, no quibbling or questions asked at all.
awt[asciilifeform]: Just counted the number of lines after a "full" sync using a copy of the #pest logs. Missing about 600 lines out of 4405 total.
awt[asciilifeform]: jonsykkel: did you do anything to test syncing wild logs or verify all logs synced?
awt[asciilifeform]: I found that syncing selfchain only resulted in a full sync of all lines originating from a station, but following netchain doesn't seem to work all that well.
asciilifeform: awt: at the risk of pedantry, in 3.3.1.6.4: 'A GetData Message may be emitted by a station... ...in possession of a Message for which the SelfChain or NetChain antecedent has not been received'
asciilifeform: i.e. either oughta trigger getdata.
awt[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform: yeah that is what *should* be happening in blatta.
awt[asciilifeform]: Seems like right now some antecedents are unreachable for some reason.
awt[asciilifeform]: Sadly I can't link to the relevant logic right now: http://btcbase.org/patches/9978-bugfixes/tree/blatta/lib/message.py
asciilifeform: aa makes sense
asciilifeform: awt: seems like the relevant logic is in station.py tho
asciilifeform: in 'report_error'
asciilifeform: awt: the logic in clean_getdata_requests dun make sense to asciilifeform
asciilifeform: if (self.getdata_requests.get(message_hash) <
asciilifeform: time.time() - self.state.get_knob('getdata_requests_expiration_seconds')):
asciilifeform: del self.getdata_requests[message_hash]
asciilifeform: awt: e.g. this is how oughta work
asciilifeform: awt: seems to me that in your current blatta, getdata's expire immediately
asciilifeform: may explain wai often enuff they go unanswered
asciilifeform: or hm, nm
asciilifeform: the given algo, while seems 'backward', oughta work