jonsykkel[asciilifeform|billymg]: not updated, will have oportunity tomorow
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Blatta update: commencing work on partial support for PROD packets. Should help with missing messages in some cases.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: I might have to move here permanently. For whatever reason verisimilitude both bores the hell out of me and drives me nuts
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 20:52:46: is vex better or worse? at least with vex it is usually a big block of text in the middle of the night, so easy to skip over in the log
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: sometimes vex is funny
signpost[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 20:58:20: awt: yeah, but keep in mind that tmsr failed first at assimilation, then at everything else.
signpost[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 20:58:30: I'm not arguing with him because he's making me upset.
asciilifeform wonders why sees timestamps in almost erry msg
signpost[asciilifeform] messages
asciilifeform messages' << moar bug?
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 21:00:38: hmm and billymg's bot also recv'd barf?
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 21:00:41: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=tTDv << what was sent
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 21:01:16: awt: with all due respect the current ver. of blatta imho inedibly buggy
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 21:01:52: a good %% of what asciilifeform threw in, thus far, didn't come out on any end, or came out mangled beyond recognition
signpost[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 21:02:32: might want to get everyone up to date first, iirc that was a hypothesis on cause
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 21:02:40: aite
asciilifeform: awt: asciilifeform is thinking, for next spec rev., that timestamps in playbacks oughta be emitted outta band (e.g. wallop to irc client) rather than inband (i.e. chomping away part of space avail. for msg text)
asciilifeform: that way also could handle'em in a log bot appropriately (or not)
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Which message is missing?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: read log re: timestamps: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-26#1003810
bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-26 21:46:49 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: if your clock is far enough ahead of the speaker, blatta may think your last received message is newer than a message just sent, and will apply the timestamp.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: read log re: timestamps: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-26#1003810
bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-26 21:46:49 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: if your clock is far enough ahead of the speaker, blatta may think your last received message is newer than a message just sent, and will apply the timestamp.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg] messages with a timestamp prepended
awt[billymg|asciilifeform]: I have this in my log going to your client: INFO 2022-02-27 18:18:44,597: [71.191.220.241:10628 asciilifeform] <- BROADCAST a hrm actually the issue... Did you receive?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: how do you know that bot received barf and isn't just producing barf? Why assume that?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: I can't debug missing messages from you if you don't tell me what messages are missing
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: signpost: yes - it's mostly my issue.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: signpost: yes - it's mostly my issue.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: also if you belive others are not getting your messages, you can verify through the debug log which I have shared: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/logs/
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: roger re: timestamps out of band
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo hello
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-28#1003876 << good point awt
bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 21:25:24 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-28#1003876 << good point awt
bitbot: Logged on 2022-02-28 21:25:24 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
asciilifeform: hm and still receiving self-echos, e.g. just nao 'asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|signpost] ...'
asciilifeform: and bot logged twice
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: as per several previous comments asciilifeform we will be getting echos when there is whitespace at the end as long as jonsykkel is running 9983
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 22:39:35: hmm
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: at least, that's the best explanation I have for now
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 22:39:53: dunthink i put a whitespc at the end there tho
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: if you tab complete, you'll get whitespace after the name
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 22:40:26: a
asciilifeform recalls nao
asciilifeform: 2022-02-28 22:40:44: ty awt
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:39:53: awt: do I need to do anything to migrate the db from 9983 to 9982, or does that just happen automatically when I run 9982 the first time?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: the migration happens automatically. Do back up your db, however.
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:41:10: I don't need no stinking backups, bonzai! (j/k)
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:41:33: brb, upgrading
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:46:26: hi again?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: wb PeterL
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo hello
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:47:59: awt: maybe change the example start script to not use --log-level since it is not an option anymore?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: will do
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo hello
pestbot[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:28:56: hello from pestbot
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:54:41: test
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: lol finally
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:54:41: test
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo hello
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:57:25: finally?
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:57:59: is it normal to get a wall of text a couple minutes after connecting?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: yeah
pestbot[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 22:56:54: hello
PeterL[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 23:00:14: I feel like with the new version there is a lot more lag than the previous version?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg|asciilifeform]: PeterL: finally was wrt pestbot's echo
awt[billymg]: PeterL: what I'm seeing with pestbot right now is that everything is going into the order buffer, which gets cleared out every 5 min. by default.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: what I'm seeing with pestbot right now is that everything is going into the order buffer, which gets cleared out every 5 min. by default.
pestbot[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 23:11:31: hello
pestbot[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 23:11:31: hello
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: PeterL: you can verify be looking for "message received out of order" in the debug log.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Yep, I'm seeing way too many GETDATA messages from people that have not been offline
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: I think message order is, tragically, getting messed up in the order queue and the chain tips are getting updated to the wrong messages.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo hello
pestbot[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 23:25:16: hello
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Oh looks like pestbot is finally up to date.
jonsykkel[asciilifeform|billymg]: 2022-02-28 23:31:15: 123
signpost[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 23:32:09: 456
jonsykkel[asciilifeform|billymg]: indeed
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo 789
pestbot[asciilifeform]: 2022-02-28 23:41:38: 789
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: pestbot: echo 10 11 12
pestbot[asciilifeform|billymg]: 10 11 12
jonsykkel[asciilifeform|billymg]: getdataspam seems to have run its course, 24min
awt[billymg|asciilifeform]: jonsykkel: was just about to say I see your GETDATA packets
awt[billymg|asciilifeform]: Seeing a lot fewer timestamps now that my clock is not almost 10 minutes fast.
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: am getting some messages with up to [12] in the hearsay count
jonsykkel[asciilifeform]: (have 6 peers)
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: jonsykkel: that's not good
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: testing whitespace
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: jonsykkel: were those messages with a relayer count of 12 GETDATA responses?
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: ok noted, thx
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: something wrong with the arithmetic there
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: I suspect mod6 has not updated, so there's still the potential for dupes.
awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: whaack also, afaik