jfw: ah but you said 3.7.17, d'oh. Should be good on those counts then, so go with ".mode insert".
diana_coman: <danuker> salutari! as vrea sa va multumesc pentru datele de labac: http://ossasepia.com/bac-data/ - da' cu placere! In general sunt online pe aici pe la 7UTC, cred ca-i 10 ora ro.
diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia danuker
deedbot: danuker voiced for 30 minutes.
danuker: e 11 :)
diana_coman: atunci 11
diana_coman: la ce-au folosit datele?
danuker: am facut un top al liceelor mai recent; vreau sa fac o harta colorata
danuker: analiza pe site-ul tau e doar din 2011
diana_coman: foarte frumos; ai un sit ori lucrezi cu careva?
danuker: am site, https://danuker.go.ro/
diana_coman: eh, pai are ceva istoric, da
danuker: dar nu e pus inca
danuker: de vreme ce nu l-am nici terminat
danuker: am aflat de ce nu folosesti HTTPS xD
diana_coman: ha, si crypto, ce ai nimerit
danuker: adica v-am nimerit pe voi?
danuker: am cautat scraper de bac pe github
diana_coman: intre timp cred ca or mai fi schimbat formatul ala de vreo 100 de ori
danuker: eh; firma corupta
diana_coman: danuker - da' hai sa trecem totusi pe iengleza ca mai citesc si altii bietii
danuker: sure
danuker: I found out what you do in #therealbitcoin
diana_coman: ahahah
danuker: after re-reading "reflections on trusting trust" I realized I can not find something not compiled with a C compiler
diana_coman: danuker - here, have a read of some history there and the comments from those in #therealbitcoin
danuker: thanks; I am paralyzed overflowing with information
diana_coman: there's a deep rabbit... burrow, what hole, you found
diana_coman: yeah, I can imagine; kind of trying to keep it to a minimum as it is
diana_coman: !!key danuker
deedbot: Not registered.
danuker: yeh; I think they deleted my account for not logging in in ages
diana_coman: danuker - no, deedbot is nothing to do with chanserv/nickserv and the like
diana_coman: there's more to read (a lot!) right there!
danuker: oh, haha
diana_coman: hand around and you'll get to it though, there's time now, too much time even
diana_coman: danuker - do you mind saying how old are you?
diana_coman: hang around, I meant
danuker: I'm 28; why?
diana_coman: danuker - mainly to get some idea as to what makes most sense to you
diana_coman: and otherwise irc-able made me curious; apparently younger people never-heard-of-irc-omg
danuker: yeh :( the facebook and messenger and twatter drones
diana_coman: danuker - at any rate, trust and its issues makes for quite a solid root of things around here, so you'll probably find a lot of interesting things
diana_coman: I think messenger and twatter are so last season already, it must be discord nao!
diana_coman: and telegram or whatwasit
danuker: well, you got one trustpoint from me for that grade list; and one for NOT using HTTPS?
diana_coman: danuker - did you stumble upon the web of trust (WoT) yet?
danuker: yes, but I did not learn how to use it yet
danuker: i'll just keep the trust in my mind
diana_coman: well, for starters you need an identity to at least be part of it; that atm means a RSA keypair & registering it with deedbot, hence my earlier !!key
diana_coman: !!help
diana_coman: as for the WoT, this is the canonical reference.
danuker: I have to finish my map first; then I'll help you remove crud from BTC; though my C is very rusty
danuker: haha, the official approved canonical WoT, eh?
diana_coman: ahaha, no
diana_coman: danuker - you'll trip over a LOT of things if you just take words to mean exactly what you found them to mean so far, you know?
diana_coman: canonical reference for one thing has nothing to do with "approved wot" , lolz
danuker: oh, I thought it was keys on that page
diana_coman: it's the main source explaining *what the thing is*
danuker: but it's teh technical manual
diana_coman: well, reference, d'oh
danuker: right
diana_coman: not even that, lol!
diana_coman: although thinking of trilema.com as a compendium of technical manuals makes me chuckle :))
diana_coman: danuker - if you want the keys and to explore the wot, you want wot.deedbot.org
diana_coman: but note that WoT as a concept is one thing, while *one particular implementation of it* is another
danuker: thank you; I hope I can find the reference again, I am in over my head
danuker: I have to put all the links in one place
diana_coman: btw re cleaning btc code and the like - for one thing it's quite a tall order to start directly with it (and yes, trust has to do with this too!), for another, there's more than what #therealbitcoin pretends there is.
danuker: there are other projects?
diana_coman: danuker - this chan is logged, you can always find all of it later, see e.g. http://ossasepia.com/2020/07/01/ossasepia-logs-for-Jul-2020/#1027771
sonofawitch: 2020-07-12 10:10:49 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: danuker - here, have a read of some history there and the comments from those in #therealbitcoin
diana_coman: danuker - well, for starters, see jfw's , e.g. http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/build-system-overhaul-for-bitcoind/
diana_coman: more links!
diana_coman: danuker - what do you do other than highschool maps, if you don't mind saying?
danuker: I was a web developer; but in the past few years I was not employed
danuker: I worked on a project to do algorithmic trading
diana_coman: heh, I was just typing "riding btc, eh?"
danuker: on my own
danuker: well, I hodled yes, and am still evaluating the system
danuker: I am not positive it would make more money than lose yet :D
danuker: my daily routine involves lots of youtube :(
diana_coman: well, projects are around aplenty; fwiw, if you haven't found it yet, I'm cto for minigame and eulora (the game) has a lot of ~all sorts, just waiting for some intelligent people, really
danuker: wow, I haven't seen it, but looks nice
danuker: the game I mean
diana_coman: so you have then the advantage that it's very, very easy to get all of a sudden way more productive - just ditch the stupid videos and read + write, it's way better for your mind
diana_coman: danuker - if you manage to register a key with deedbot, I'll rate you and then you can simply !!up #ossasepia yourself so you can talk whenever you want to
diana_coman: right on cue, deedbot, pfft
diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia danuker
deedbot: danuker voiced for 30 minutes.
danuker: =D will do, thanks!
diana_coman: no problem; and just ask when/if you're stuck with anything, this is *meant* even as a learning place to start with.
danuker: does Ossa Sepia mean something?
diana_coman: (that being said, it's usually around 7pm UTC that I get around to answer but others might be around anyway)
diana_coman: well, ossasepia does; ossa sepia also; lol, see from my About page
diana_coman: and perhaps younghands.club too (just in case you were running out of links already!)
danuker: xD thanks for the chat, data, and community
diana_coman: no problem; enjoy!
danuker: I'm sure I clicked on that link also at some point today
danuker: is ASCII-armored a joke name for plaintext, or an encryption method?
diana_coman: lol, neither
diana_coman: in a nutshell, it's binary to text
diana_coman: !!key danuker
diana_coman: oh hey, cool; well done, danuker!
diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia danuker
deedbot: danuker voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: I'll get around sometime today to rate you.
danuker: No hurry; I don't have much to say, nor do I expect any trust. For all you know, I could be a covert agent.
diana_coman: lol, a covert agent of.... what exactly?
diana_coman: the "subversion with words" shtick anyways does exactly 0
diana_coman: !!v FA312C3C3E9FD093AB2CCDF9B3A164797E50EEF8221D651CB7E41FE101966602
deedbot: diana_coman rated danuker 1 << found his way around following the bac-data track; writes at danuker.go.ro
diana_coman: danuker - there you go.
danuker: why, thank you ^_^
danuker: by the way, I find it perplexing that many parents in Romania use the entrance exam averages to judge high schools, instead of the "exit exam" (bac). You should not judge a school by demand, but by performance!
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/07/12/making-short-work-of-a-squirrels-winter-stores/ << Ossa Sepia -- Making Short Work of a Squirrel's Winter Stores
diana_coman: danuker - heh, no idea why that might be? (perplexing is usually a good sign there's more to the thing than you notice yet)
danuker: diana_coman, you are right, I must state in my article that what goes in matters also; and that I do not keep track of that
danuker: I changed to a local IRC client and I had to re-up myself; does that only happen when changing network?
danuker: also, I am worried about polluting the channel; I don't know what this channel likes
whaack: hey danuker, i had a debate with an irl friend the other day about using / not using https, thought you may have been him. there's no list of likes, but good questions are well received
whaack: cruciform: what ever happened to you? you seemed to join at a moment I was inactive here, so never got to say hi
diana_coman: danuker - there's even more to that evaluating-based-on-what-goes-in that simply "well, obviously can't make silk purse out of sow's ear"; a whole cultural trip just in there, if you truly want to make it.
diana_coman: re deedbot - you'll have to re-up whenever you reconnect, basically; think of it: how can deedbot know it's still "you" if you reconnect?
danuker: whaack, I am not that friend of yours, sorry
danuker: my position on HTTPS right now is to make it optional
danuker: and I will configure my website soon
whaack: danuker: I learned when I saw the romanian
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/07/01/ossasepia-logs-for-Jul-2020/#1027867 - eh, for starters, don't worry - worry never helped anyone, ever; for follow up - don't worry about likes and in general about what the "outcome", focus instead of why and how as they are more important anyway; to follow up even further - basically what I'll bash on sight is
diana_coman: militant ignorance and stubborn idiocy, that's about it.
sonofawitch: 2020-07-12 18:21:00 (#ossasepia) danuker: also, I am worried about polluting the channel; I don't know what this channel likes
whaack: jfw: ack re .mode insert, ty
diana_coman: jfw, btw here's your previous question about why and how "curiosity" seems to come and go in fact answered plainly recently.
sonofawitch: 2020-02-15 15:38:49 (#ossasepia) jfw: I mean that I'm not too aware of when or why that kind of motivation comes or goes, or how to make it more useful for me
sonofawitch: 2020-07-02 22:27:02 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: worth perhaps noting also that absent any other ways to commit to one or another piece of work, what gets done or not (and in a more general sense, not specifically about trb now) is always decided simply by perceived cost-of-improvement vs pain-of-current-state, there isn't much else left.
diana_coman: not as much about curiosity, after all.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/minigame-smg-statement-on-q2-2020/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG) Statement on Q2 2020
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/07/12/eulora-logs-for-Jul-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for Jul 2020
danuker: motivation just magically appears after you start work - https://www.wisdomination.com/screw-motivation-what-you-need-is-discipline/
diana_coman: eh, danuker, that is true but hard to get across the ocean, you know?
danuker: you mean the day-in-day-out, eh?
diana_coman: no, I mean that your understanding of it comes rooted in a certain environment that is *very* different from theirs
diana_coman: and as such, it makes way easier/more sense for you
diana_coman: it is true - what works each and every time and without fail is indeed discipline
diana_coman: trouble is that being disciplined is a habit itself
danuker: I have no way of knowing what they are going through, that is right
diana_coman: and one that is moreover supported or quite the opposite by the environment, too
danuker: all I can say is good luck, then!
danuker: I'm out for today
danuker: laters
feedbot: http://ztkfg.com/2020/07/sorting-out-big-and-little-endian/ << whaack -- Representing Data - Notes on Big And Little Endian Encodings