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diana_coman: spyked: you know, I had just found out about Stanasila and then saw your article and thought it's too much coincidence not to be about him too; other than the course we had with him though, I could never quite figure out if/what he managed to build otherwise in that hole, to me he seemed rather one of the few exceptions to be grateful for.
spyked: diana_coman, there's a small group there that teaches math properly... or it still was when I last looked. other than that, it depends how much patience you have to dig through academic journals, iirc he co-authored some stuff 3-5 years ago.
spyked: well, I'm not sure that teaching is going to amount to much, it also requires willing students.
diana_coman: spyked: ah, I'm sure research wise he had contributions and otherwise the well known textbooks/workbooks at the very least certainly stand for "built"; what I meant was specifically at UPB - maybe it was just my very limited understanding of the whole environment at the time but he was very little visible other than that 1 course.
spyked: iirc he actually retired in 2008 or so, I think he was already old by then. but almost all of the people teaching analysis in UPB were his students; the ones who remain were his colleagues, lol (tbh, I'm surprised to hear Flondor is still teaching)
diana_coman: ah, he certainly was already quite old when I met him, yes; that was though ~2002 so possibly not yet retired; re those teaching analysis/anything else there nowadays, I am not really up to date.
diana_coman: not sure otherwise anyway what does "his students" mean in the sense that yes, there was that 1 course so I was his student too; for all my preference for the course, it was nevertheless a very, very small part of the Maths learnt in those years so not really sure if it's all that appropriate otherwise to claim "his student"
diana_coman: (and I suppose ~all in the same year as me could by the above token claim they were his students, but uhm)
spyked: diana_coman, people with whom he worked closely, taught them the trade, brought them up.
spyked: or conversely, people who wanted to learn the stuff he taught. as opposed to people who were nominally "students", but weren't interested.
diana_coman: the first would be the definition I normally agree with; and in this sense I wasn't his student; I'll believe you if you say (some of) those teaching now analysis there, have been.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/walks-among-the-quaint-quarantruins/ << Trilema -- Walks among the quaint quarantruins
diana_coman: jfw: what's on the agenda for this week in the end?
jfw: diana_coman: I was trying to work that out just now, but pretty much got to feeling down about the seeming futility of getting myself to follow a plan anyway.
jfw: dunno what I have against gardening but it hasn't made it onto the draft yet.
jfw: we did have the first lesson for a beginner training client yesterday, which was refreshing, I've got some things to tend to on that
diana_coman: jfw: hm, better curious than down about something like that, it's not unchangeable nor without some causes; anyways, how about leaving the plans be for now and draw up instead the summary of the week/day to see what "plan" emerges out of the free-form
diana_coman: tbh considering the trouble you seemed to have in cutting stuff out of the plan because "it should be there", I suspect at least some significant part of the "can't follow a plan" stems from that really - it's not that you can't follow a plan, it's more that you can't bring yourself to plan for what you'd follow rather than for what "should be"
diana_coman: great to hear your beginner training client started, that's good news anyway.
jfw: thanks, and yeah, could be!
jfw: for summaries do you mean my choice of weekly or daily, or what?
diana_coman: jfw: ideally daily but literally take max 15 minutes to put it together (can even be as a comment at last article of yours or something) so at the end of the week it's there and therefore the "plan" whatever it was is clear enough; is that doable?
jfw: ("could be" I meant about planning for what I'd follow. I should remember by now that 'saving typing' by leaving out context doesn't really work out...)
diana_coman: jfw: I got that, no worries there.
jfw: diana_coman: yep that's doable.
diana_coman: so please do it then, starting today with yesterday's summary so it's a full week by Friday and then there's something to have a look at.
diana_coman: jfw: what's thawing blog-side?
jfw: I will. On the blog, I'd started on writing up a fairly simple "eatblock" script for bitcoin, can possibly get that done today
diana_coman: sounds good
diana_coman: and then publishing that wallet?
diana_coman: :P
jfw: for sure :)
diana_coman: to quote last October's words
sonofawitch: 2019-10-26 18:00:59 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: because you know, I can let you slide and take a whole month on one post; at that rate possibly we'll get to have a look at your software sometime before I die of old age or something.
jfw: wallet reminds me, I need to redo some genesis patches to follow the project name subdir convention
diana_coman: jfw: so what happens in cases like this (ie with this sort of reminder coming unexpectedly)?
diana_coman: speaking of remembering stuff, hm; dorion any chance you'll still write that hunting article or what happened to it anyway?
jfw: diana_coman: in this case I'd noticed earlier it needed doing, but hadn't mentioned it. Not sure what happens there in general.
diana_coman: do you keep some sort of list and add it there? or make a note mentally (in principle; aka if it doesn't fade away, it might get done)? or do you drop whatever it was and do it? none of those?
jfw: pretty much the make a note mentally I'd have to say.
diana_coman: so either it's then basically taking up mental space or otherwise it's in the category ~"if it's truly important, I'll surely get annoyed with it enough to do it in the end!"
diana_coman: it works, I know; not very efficiently, but it sort of works while there is enough slack otherwise, indeed.
jfw: I've sometimes kept a todo list but it eventually ends up the list of things I wish I'd do but probably won't anyway...
diana_coman: well yes, the list itself does not change the above; it goes the other way around ie only when you have (for whatever reason) enough of the above, only then the list (or other device/system) will come in handy too
diana_coman: (this is not to say the change-genesis is now some very urgent or must-do-now thing, just in case it's not clear)
jfw: you're saying the system comes in handy once there are more important/annoying things than fit in the mental space?
diana_coman: the system comes in handy once the current efficiency level is not enough for yourself anymore; whether that's because there are more important/annoying things than fit your mental space or whether it's because the available time is less than the work you absolutely find you must do or whether it's for any other possible reason matters less
jfw: makes sense, it changes once it has to
diana_coman: pretty much; the part worth also saying in clear is that whether you push it towards some "has to" or quite push it at all times the opposite is your choice too.
jfw: such as by choosing to take up responsibilities or not?
diana_coman: come to think of it, there's something in there linking even to that older question re systematic curiosity, hm.
diana_coman: jfw: such as that indeed; such as pushing towards or away from what seems unpleasant/uncomfortable
diana_coman: linking it to what likes actually mean ie habit and existing adaptation, it's hopefully quite clear why the need to change is unlikely to come that much from what one likes, huh.
sonofawitch: 2020-05-13 21:57:02 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: so many likes are a matter of habit (and deeper than that - a matter of wider specific adaptation really) that it's not really all that hard to throw people off if you want to; part and parcel of having lived in many places though is getting to see just how much of what people claim otherwise as fixed and "the truth" and all that is in the end just a matter of context really.
diana_coman: anyways, the tiny bit that started this thread quite went already longer than the genesis-change example itself has legs; so it can certainly take a rest.
jfw: alright yeah, all seems to make sense but a bit abstract for me so far.
jfw: diana_coman: just noticed, CTCP ACTIONs possibly misparsed on log import? http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/20/ossasepia-logs-for-02-Sep-2019/#1001032
sonofawitch: 2019-09-02 19:14:01 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: will be back tomorrow\\x01
diana_coman: jfw: looks like that, darn; thanks for pointing it out, it'll have to wait until I get to look at that again.
jfw: np.