diana_coman: !o uptime
ossabot: diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 20h 48m
diana_coman: !s help
sonofawitch: !s is my prefix for commands: hi, help
diana_coman: !o uptime
ossabot: diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 21h 14m
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 26 Apr 2020
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/eulora-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for 26 Apr 2020
diana_coman: in advantages of publishing the logs like any other text on blog... backlinks ; might even make for more motivation to finally get to the bottom of missing trackbacks otherwise.
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Day in April
billymg: !!ratings
billymg: ^ finally got around to that bit of housekeeping
billymg: thank you to everyone who responded to my mp-wp survey, it cleared up a lot in my head about the desired direction for the project
billymg: i'll publish my interpretation of the results soon, but even reading the raw responses i think should be interesting to anyone who uses mp-wp
diana_coman: billymg: fwiw, after doing all the scripts to import logs and to get real-time logging into mpwp and all that, I realised that in the process I pretty much got also ~all I'd need to not even look at the web-based interface anymore
diana_coman: sure, there'd be a bit more work to make stuff like comment moderation more convenient but otherwise it kind of boggles the mind why exactly did I put up with the web-based login for so long.
diana_coman: (well: because I never took the time to really look at it; in turn, because there were bigger fires & more annoying things to sort out etc; as it always goes)
billymg: diana_coman: yeah, one of the big takeaways for me is that JS can be removed entirely sooner than i had previously thought (the "libraries" of which are a big portion of the overall weight of the codebase)
diana_coman: ah, that for sure.
diana_coman: billymg: I'm curious though what you make of it given that from what I saw, the answers from non-mpwp users were ~all mainly "shall never use it on ideological grounds"
diana_coman: maybe I should say even religious grounds by now, lol.
billymg: diana_coman: my read from the non-mpwp users was not quite as pessimistic. two of the three responses seemed to indicate that if the codebase was trimmed enough and a CLI introduced they would not be opposed to running it
diana_coman: I think you are very optimistic but I'll be very happy to be proved wrong in this as well as above.
diana_coman shall be back later at the usual 7pm utc
billymg: diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow
billymg: diana_coman: i think you might be right about users already invested in another solution though. even if mp-wp becomes palatable to them there are switching costs. but getting to the point where, hypothetically, if they were starting fresh again mp-wp would be their first choice, would still be a win
billymg bbl, breakfast is ready
lobbes: diana_comam: I have a massive log and blog debt to catch up on. Seems work on mpwp keeps moving forward and I'm still interested in lending a hand with any irc-to-blog work. The mp-wp-bot I was working on does indeed to real-time logging to mp-wp. I'll be spending today and early next week on getting back up to speed on things.
lobbes: speaking of, auctionbot is MIA I see; I will fix
diana_coman: oh hey, wb lobbes
diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia LizTurner
deedbot: LizTurner voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: LizTurner: hello
diana_coman: lobbes: what happened to you this almost full April, anyway?
diana_coman: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/#1025280 - this would be about the most generous interpretation indeed; to me there's a stark contrast between those answers and e.g. http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020/#1024027
sonofawitch: 2020-04-26 18:35:29 (#ossasepia) billymg: diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow
sonofawitch: 2020-04-09 16:14:08 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: ie make the trunk of mpwp so that I'm 2x more productive using it than whatever entrenched habits I might have, and I'll change the darned habits already
diana_coman: anyways, to my mind the benefit would be in reaching out to new people rather than trying to convince anyone who has already made their mind to not use it.
diana_coman: huh, those join-and-leave, not even spewing out some spam, boggles the mind
diana_coman: it's like children's games - ring at the door and run away sort of thing?
diana_coman: cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you?
sonofawitch: 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?"
cruciform: !!up #ossasepia cruciform
deedbot: You may not !!up yourself.
diana_coman: trinque: ^ what's wrong there ?
diana_coman: hm, I thought voice params were changed already.
sonofawitch: 2020-04-18 18:15:44 (#ossasepia) trinque: diana_coman: sitting down to another round of deedbot tweaking now, will make sure the voice params are also changed.
cruciform: diana_coman, I went from not-doing-a-lot-inside to not-doing-a-lot outside for the last few days; I'll have a post up by tomorrow eve http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-26#1025296
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-26 16:32:27 diana_coman: cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you?
sonofawitch: 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?"
diana_coman: cruciform: ahaha, at least a change of ...scenery!
cruciform: speaking of, enjoyed http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/
diana_coman: cruciform: oh hey, glad to hear it!
jfw: dorion: how's it going with the sales article revisions?
trinque: lemme see, cruciform stick around a minute so we can sort this.
trinque: ah crap, just noticed the timestamps.
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/27/ossasepia-logs-for-27-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 27 Apr 2020
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/27/eulora-logs-for-27-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for 27 Apr 2020
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-26#1025293 << noted, that makes sense
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-26 16:27:55 diana_coman: anyways, to my mind the benefit would be in reaching out to new people rather than trying to convince anyone who has already made their mind to not use it.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4232020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/23/2020
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4242020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/24/2020
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4252020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/25/2020
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/probably-the-best-personal-blog-of-the-moment/ << Trilema -- Probably the best personal blog of the moment