lobbes: diana_coman: since my first deadline of Aug 4 has come, I want to give you an update on the logotron progress thus far:
lobbes: I believe I have the initial php bits figured out. However, I underestimated the complexity of the permissions system in postgres. Specifically, since the intent will be to have a logbot and log viewer on the same server, I want to be sure I really understand the permissions so that the web-facing bits do not interfere with the logline snarfing bits. I'll give you daily updates on my progress as I work
lobbes: through this understanding.
lobbes: In the meantime, do you care if I bring auctionbot into this channel? Since it sits on top of the logbot code, I figure it can start snarfing loglines while I research. (It will not list auctions in this channel unless I explicity tell it to, so no worries of spam)
lobbes bbl:sleep
diana_coman: lobbes: you can bring auctionbot in here, sure
lobbes: excellent. ty!
lobbes: http://ossasepia.com/2019/08/03/silently-unhappened-on-theodinprojectcom/ << btw comment in modqueue
diana_coman: lobbes: good you said something - I had to fish it out of the spam (not sure why it went there directly, hm)
diana_coman: shrysr: are you still alive ?
shrysr: diana_coman: yes, i am. sorry. I've had to catch up on office work and have not made much progress with v.py, and my daily writing has been lagging as well.
diana_coman: shrysr: it can happen but the important thing is: SAY it; as quickly as you notice it
shrysr: yes.. i apologise. I was going to update you and got distracted.
diana_coman: far better to say it upfront than to have me either shout after you as above or otherwise... assume whatever I might end up assuming instead, you know?
shrysr: yes
diana_coman: ha! what was the distracting thing?
diana_coman: anyways, glad to hear you're still alive :D
diana_coman: re v.py, since it seems to be a hard task, maybe write down what you did /tried so far and where/what got you stuck; you might even get some help then
shrysr: yes, i will need help :D .. but I do think i can push a little further, and want to.
shrysr: the distracting thing!! lol what is not distracting :D as you've said i try to optimise when I shdnt, and if i remember right - i thought I should get something done and then report, and then thought i should send out an interim update ... and then went on to something else to finish first. God knows what at that time.
diana_coman: shrysr: sounds like a mess; report is fixed: set aside a day and *stick to it*; i.e. *every week* on Sunday you write down on younghands.club the summary of what you did during the week and how it went
diana_coman: it has nothing to do with that first or the other second
diana_coman: the above is the minimum and *fixed*
diana_coman: if you want in addition to set yourself a daily blog post too on whatever you worked on during that day, fine
diana_coman: but again, it's a fixed thing, non-negotiable once set; whatever it is you did or did not do, goes in there
shrysr: :) okay. Understood.
diana_coman: the point of those posts is to *record what happened* , not to paint you in some light or another
shrysr: okay.
shrysr: i will do it.
diana_coman: cool then
shrysr: diana_coman: where are you in UK? hehe I did my masters in Leeds uni, but have only visited birmingham. Not even London.
diana_coman: shrysr: I'm in Reading
diana_coman: well, near Reading
diana_coman: why so travel-adverse shrysr ?
diana_coman: shrysr: where are you from more precisely?
shrysr: Well in the past - mostly because of the money. I guess nowadays its also abt the effort involved in planning stuff out. hey at that time, i had no money left over after the drugs and cigs.
shrysr: I'm from the south of india. You could say the city Chennai. However, I was born in Mumbai and we've been there for a longgg time.
shrysr: so essentially... i live in Mumbai, India.
diana_coman: shrysr: how often do you go back to India nowadays? (re no money, students tend to not have money but yeah, usually through their own doing, lolz; basically drugs and cigs were more interesting than london which tbh sounds like a rather sensible assessment for that age)
diana_coman: not to mention that I can't honestly point out something you "missed out" on by not going to London; onth missing out on trying unhealthy stuff while young enough to make it through kind of sucks because trying it later is not really a viable option
shrysr: its been 2 years since I've been to India... i.e I havent been back since I shifted to canada. My sister lives in New Jersey. My parents visit her now and then.. I met all of them there last year, and they are visiting her again around december.
diana_coman: oh, visiting the poorer shithole to the south, I see
shrysr: well she has a kid... its more entertaining i presume for them. I'm quite certain that they w
diana_coman: your line got cut at w
shrysr: they would not want to be where i am now. :))
diana_coman: lol; that's at the end of the day their problem though, not yours
shrysr: well for one thing they wdnt fit into my tinyyyyy motel room.. Hey i'd like them to hang out with me, so its kindda my problem too.
diana_coman: part of being an adult is that you don't care anymore about your parents' opinions and ideas as - hopefully - you outgrew them essentially
diana_coman: well, so go back to India from time to time, you get to hang out with any and all friends still there too, much better anyway
shrysr: yes. thats the plan. hmm.. i agree there has been a growing disconnect, but i still consult with them on most major decisions... there's nobody else i can trust completely.
diana_coman: I get that you "can trust" as in they want the best for you; the trouble however is whether they still can evaluate correctly that "best" given that you are outside what they actually know, it's pretty much this
diana_coman: and if they are fully honest, the truth is that "best for you" is inevitably being able to take and stand by your major decisions on your own
diana_coman: even if you have to fall down a couple of times and hurt yourself until you get there - it's still learning
shrysr: they can't ... and you are right. thats why i said there is a growing disconnect... as such even before i came out here - they always insisted that the decision should be mine.
diana_coman: the other way of looking at it is that it's increasingly a burden on them - having to share responsibility for what it's not their lot; anyway, good on them and on you for stating that much
shrysr: i.e they acknowledge that i know the situation better than them, and I shd move in the direction needed. in those cases my sister has been a lot more helpful since shez been out here a lot longer.
diana_coman: lol; gathering information is one thing; making decisions a different step though
shrysr: :D yes
diana_coman: well, you know, let me know if I should instead talk to your sister :D
shrysr: lol she has her hands full with my 3 year old nephew who is ridiculously intelligent and cunning..
diana_coman: the point there is whether you are on her hands too or on your own