verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076317 My Meta-Machine Code is a structure editor of a sorts. All programming should be done in a human mind first, and in such tools second.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 15:53:17 asciilifeform: structure editors would be a++ even for folx w/ working hands..
verisimilitude: It also has the nice quality of heavily reducing the typing required for such hacking.
mats: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076359 << no, theres a separate ladder for income tax now, since iirc trump tax cut and jerbs act
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-25 18:03:57 billymg: and what mats mentioned here i believe is based on your total income for that year. e.g. if you make $50k salary and then sell some asset for a profit you're already in that "kicks in at 40k" range
mats: nvm, i went to double check, think i misread something a while back
mats: https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409 "The tax rate on most net capital gain is no higher than 15% for most individuals. Some or all net capital gain may be taxed at 0% if your taxable income is less than or equal to $40,400 for single or $80,800 for married filing jointly ... A capital gain rate of 15% applies if your taxable income is more than $40,400 but less than or equal to $445,850 for single"
mats: there is a separate ladder but it didn't work the way i thought it does
mats: cap gains tax treatment is still hella good compared to the fed income ladder, which is 35% up to 520k
mats: and the carveout for primary home ownership sale, which protects (250k usd single/500k married) in profit from tax
mats: or the 1031 exchange, which lets homeowners sell their (nonprimary, investment) home, buy another, and pay no capital gains tax. but i digress
vex: that sounds not too bad mats.
vex: compared to oz. we're much closer to 50 pc. can sell your primary house & keep profit upto maxint tho
vex: the quoted is kinda vauge tho huh?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 14:49:38 signpost: repudiable could be used for blocks which have no children and have a competitor with no children, and repudiated when they are left behind.
cgra: signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
bitbot: (pest) 2022-01-27 signpost[asciilifeform|billymg]: the refactoring tools are god-tier.
bitbot: (pest) 2022-01-27 whaack[asciilifeform]: but i have paid for jetbrains products before and would happily do it again
cgra: re >6 block reorgs there's http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-11-05#1024349][this report]
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 15:00:58 asciilifeform: and iirc whaack turned up >6 long reorgs in early history.
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-11-05 12:45:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, 8-block-long reorg earlier today (on .27 ; and the initial attempt to resolve it, in fact caused that noad to OOM)
cgra: re the 'orphan' misnomer, drawing the line between 'losing' and 'loser', instead of 'extinct' and 'resurrected', perhaps worth considering.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 14:57:45 whaack: asciilifeform: given our emperical evidence so far i think it's fair to call loser/repudiated blocks extinct blocks, and should we learn that in practice losers can be revived, then that will be a resurrection
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 14:59:50 asciilifeform: ( the well-known tradition is 'declared dead after 6' but there's no fundamental physical basis for it )
cgra: coupla examples: losing/loser, 'losing' until declared 'loser'. how about the chain that recovers after initial losing position, a 'runner-up'?
cgra: dying/dead, 'dying' until declared 'dead'/'extinct', then a 'recoverer'/'recovering chain'?
cgra: then there's that, say, the node operator had a knob to decide how long a lead declares the losers/the winner. then the operator found out he had underestimated realistic reorg length and wants to adjust: now a previously declared 'loser' and the old 'winner' are swapped. i kinda feel the term 'resurrected' fits this scenario better, but prolly someone better in english can find a fitting 'sports term' here, too
cgra: * 'fits this scenario better' --> 'fits this scenario well'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 << asciilifeform was never able to get 'GPS' to build under dulap-gentoo. ( tried it on crapple & mswin, runs, but i dun ada there so can't comment in depth )
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 02:48:05 cgra: signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
asciilifeform: cgra: afaik there aint any other 'ada ide'. ( asciilifeform uses classical emacs for all adaism )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077115 << oh ha yes. possibly others in log
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 03:09:15 dulapbot: Logged on 2020-11-05 12:45:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, 8-block-long reorg earlier today (on .27 ; and the initial attempt to resolve it, in fact caused that noad to OOM)
asciilifeform: the tricky bit re looking for mega-reorgs in one's trb db is that they'll only be there if the install is ancient (i.e. actually saw the now-'dead' chains)
asciilifeform: if it was synced in modern times, will appear ~entirely linear w/ exception of very occasional 'splinter'
asciilifeform: this was why asciilifeform did not catch but in own 'dumpblocks' for yrs
asciilifeform: *bug
asciilifeform: (the 1 whaack found last yr)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077102 << for comparison, in e.g. ru (last asciilifeform knew) flat 12% .
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 00:50:04 mats: cap gains tax treatment is still hella good compared to the fed income ladder, which is 35% up to 520k
cgra: somekinda eclipse ada thingy supposedly existed, which i so far didn't get around to dig up -- already deprecated, in favor of GPS i think. the thingy might also be a torso as well
asciilifeform: cgra: one time on a mswin box installed some kinda warez commercial ada, the editor was a complete joke (no highlighting, no completion, etc), can't presently recall which one
asciilifeform: there's afaik no equiv. of ms-vs for adaism. (this dun bother asciilifeform tho)
cgra: asciilifeform: hehe, perhaps best forgotten
signpost: cgra: intellij ultimate has a plugin, which I found to be trash.
signpost: crashed often, seemed left for dead.
cgra: signpost: right
signpost: https://github.com/AdaCore/ada_language_server << curious if this is any good. emacs-lsp is a thing.
asciilifeform still uses conventional 'ada-mode'
asciilifeform: ( w/ 'flymake', 'auto-complete', and 'popup')
asciilifeform: the lsp thing might be useful. ada aint imho an item which desperately needs one, tho (at least not in asciilifeform's style of adaing), typically they're direly needed for 'fat' langs w/ massive libs, when yer sweating over a pile of heathen coad which uses 'all but kitchen sink'
signpost: yeah, imagine the explicitness of the code itself gets one quite far.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 14 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.145s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.317s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.319s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.375s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720319
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.584s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.385s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform thinking further about this -- would be interesting (if arduous) to bake a 'zoo' of deadchains. if the requisite fossils could be turned up.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 09:57:22 asciilifeform: the tricky bit re looking for mega-reorgs in one's trb db is that they'll only be there if the install is ancient (i.e. actually saw the now-'dead' chains)
asciilifeform: ( as things stand, afaik the only way atm to test long reorgs in trb is to bake synthetic alt-histories in the low-diff era )
asciilifeform: this was 'aonix', ftr.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 10:03:56 asciilifeform: cgra: one time on a mswin box installed some kinda warez commercial ada, the editor was a complete joke (no highlighting, no completion, etc), can't presently recall which one
asciilifeform: ( still to this day, supposedly, avail. who uses / why, remains a mystery to asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: ^ from the marketing maculature, seems to be merely a skin on adacorpses's '2012' nao
lc_hodl: oh hi
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shinohai: heya lc_hodl I dm'd you
shinohai: !!v 938537DD4AD0E4620426E7D0E57E2C6E169648A7D9AAE3B4839BEC5E891ECEE7
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lc_hodl: ^_^
whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 <-- no idea, not proud to say this, but i have never written even 1 LoC in ada
bitbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 07:47:56 cgra: signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077116 <-- we should keep an updated bitcoin terminology page for the foundation's ministry of truth department
bitbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 08:45:08 cgra: re the 'orphan' misnomer, drawing the line between 'losing' and 'loser', instead of 'extinct' and 'resurrected', perhaps worth considering.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 14:57:45 whaack: asciilifeform: given our emperical evidence so far i think it's fair to call loser/repudiated blocks extinct blocks, and should we learn that in practice losers can be revived, then that will be a resurrection
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-27 14:59:50 asciilifeform: ( the well-known tradition is 'declared dead after 6' but there's no fundamental physical basis for it )
whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077166 < -- seems like a worthy project
bitbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 19:15:52 asciilifeform: ( as things stand, afaik the only way atm to test long reorgs in trb is to bake synthetic alt-histories in the low-diff era )
whaack: best way to do that would be , imo, to make a patch that sets the genesis block's difficulty as low as possible, then feed blocks with fake timestamps to make it so that there are no difficulty adjustments
whaack: these blocks also would need to have thousands of faux txns etc. to get the most accurate simulation
whaack: no small feat, that's for sure
asciilifeform: whaack: no particular need to patch genesis, if yer baking synthetic blox anyway
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077177 << come to think of it, asciilifeform may be the only 1 of folx currently tuned in to have ada'd
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 15:42:46 whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 <-- no idea, not proud to say this, but i have never written even 1 LoC in ada
asciilifeform: ( tho e.g. cgra reads it just fine )
asciilifeform: arguably may be easier to read it than to write edibly.
asciilifeform found ~all published heathen ada to be ~total rubbish
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077179 << notbad idea. which reminds asciilifeform , he still owes a new trb www.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 15:43:59 whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077116 <-- we should keep an updated bitcoin terminology page for the foundation's ministry of truth department
asciilifeform 1st gotta recover the ml from his mirror in some edible format
asciilifeform must bbl: meat chores
whaack: asciilifeform: the genesis starts with a decently high difficulty, it would take a while to generate the synthetic blocks on a home computer
whaack: !e view-block 0
whaack: block 0's hash = 000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f
whaack: also timestamp is jan 3, 2009, i would put a timestamp way in the past (maybe even 0 epoch)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077198 << w/ current-day gpu, asciilifeform suspects wouldn't take even coupla days per
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-01-29 16:06:04 whaack: asciilifeform: the genesis starts with a decently high difficulty, it would take a while to generate the synthetic blocks on a home computer
vex: anyone got the ATC chain?
vex: wasn't that just a new genesis with v4ish?
vex: I forget, but I seriously doubt tat cooked it for a week
vex: possible readymade reorg initial testchain, replete with wayoff timestamps
vex: may not exist in any zoo
asciilifeform dun have it
vex: arguably a waste of kwhrs in anycase
vex: although, potential for previously unknown weird exists