signpost: sounds like the scammers have turned on each other now?
signpost to bed, cya
vex: when the ato raided his pad he was already to london. there's questions that won't get aked in this trial
vex also bed
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-04#1063339 <<< The "troo believers" in all this still as delusional as ever: https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1456255091892121606
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-04 00:20:34 signpost: sounds like the scammers have turned on each other now?
asciilifeform: shinohai: i wouldn't be so sure there are 'troo believers' at all -- wright had an extensive apparatus of usg shills pushing his nonsense (recall hearn, boeck, et al)
dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-08-17 asciilifeform: 'it never happened, and, oh, incidentally, hanno boeck! and hey craigwright is satoshi, and hey, big blox! and it never happened.'
asciilifeform: i.e. was last (perhaps) gasp of their 'let's create a shitoshi' project (an 'authority' who could, it was hoped, push through usg.'useful' changes to bitcoin)
shinohai: I'll add Gavin to that list of usg shills useful to the hoaxtoshi scam.
asciilifeform: long list
asciilifeform: most of'em afaik hung out to dry by nao
asciilifeform: recall how the entire chorus, in perfect sync, pushed wright
shinohai looks for his tiny violin, doesn't find it .....
asciilifeform: for all i know, they're still auditioning 'satoshis'
asciilifeform: ( and recall mp's version of the ploy )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2015-11-14 mircea_popescu: i have this pile of very secret derpage here including the very expert "profile" of some random derp explaining how an elderly, principled gentleman is perhaps going to react crazily to the crass injustice of this entire scheme.
signpost: recall the mp article on "metaphysical domination" ?
signpost: quite a while ago by now, placed pouring arbitrary lies into heads at the pinnacle of a hierarchy of servitude.
signpost: so this, the DAO claim, all well contextualized.
signpost: and, shocker, this turns out to backflow into the deranger.
asciilifeform: signpost: elaborate?
asciilifeform: the linked mpism btw was pre-dao, was re: some usg 'professor' proposing to award a nobel 'to satoshi' with himself as stand-in 'for safekeeping'
asciilifeform: (iirc was laughed off & vanished into obscurity)
signpost: the claims to the piles of intelligence.
signpost: possibly considered it useful propaganda, but I don't see the fruits of having had it.
asciilifeform: iirc that particular lul actually checked out but yes
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-04#1063356 << iirc that piece was about the pleasure of winning a gamble, rather than of promulgating nonsense 'party line'.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-04 12:31:15 signpost: recall the mp article on "metaphysical domination" ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-01-20 15:43:03 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the history is contested, but concept 100% applies. you can't found a religion on '1+1==2' or 'fire is hot'. but on idiocies -- can, makes simple to distinguish 'believers'. in current-day game-theoretical parlance, 'expensive signal'.
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $61059.16
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=708004
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.086s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=708199
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.092s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.175s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=707660 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.162s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.246s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.259s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708158
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.338s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.604s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=708199
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
signpost cannot find the article, but it had several numbered stages of "domination" defined.
signpost: highest of which was "this head will accept any nonsense jammed in"
asciilifeform: iirc it was level 4 of 5
asciilifeform can't be arsed to dig up orig. item atm
signpost: *mystical domination
signpost: semantic search when, this text-based thing is lacking.
signpost: upon rereading, this was put much more self-aware than memory served.
asciilifeform: aha that's the piece
asciilifeform: is ~exactly as asciilifeform recalled it
shinohai: Still poking blatta with a stick thimbronion and found the def for `peer_handler` would barf if peer already existed in db, added an except an worx fine now.
thimbronion: shinohai: noted, ty