verisimilitude: Learning Latin is delightful.
verisimilitude: I know believe I know the etymology of ``absent'', being derived from ``absunt'', being the opposite of ``adsunt'', meaning ``hic sunt'', meaning multiple entities being present.
trinque: it is truly delightful, both in itself and how it lends mastery of this other "language" I speak.
trinque: verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-09-07#1711284
snsabot: (trilema) 2017-09-07 trinque: tangentially, but I was taken aback by the beauty the moment I realized that the consonant sound in "ad" was closer to me than the one in "ab".
trinque: some of it can't even enter english with any semblance of grace.
trinque: consider "pro". derps translate with "of" or "for".
trinque: it'd be truer to say "the part which carries the essense of the whole"
trinque: "nuntius pro regis" is not the messenger of the king. the former emanates as a connected part of the latter's extended self.
verisimilitude: It seems a common pattern, for educated men to learn another language to escape their native tongues.
asciilifeform: trinque: outta curiosity, was this your 1st encounter w/ a lang which retains the knobs that fell off english ?
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-09-29 asciilifeform: this is btw a long-standing q in asciilifeform's head -- wai is it that lang knobs only ever seem to ~fall off~ in archaeologically-visible period. almost as if they were only formed in 'supernovae' of some sort, and then afterwards only decay
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $54830.84
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.037s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.031s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671182
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=671269 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.171s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.253s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.376s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.334s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671024
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.592s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=671311
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
dpb: asciilifeform, is there a rate limit on the download speed from dulap.xyz ? no matter where i try to connect from, i get max download of 200 KB/s averaging 50k
asciilifeform: dpb: no official limit.
dpb: i currently sit at a computer cafe, plugged into ethernet that i paid for the hour, it is supposed to be very fast
asciilifeform: dpb: likely bottleneck is on yer local end -- i get ~2MB/s here
asciilifeform: dpb: i rec to use wget w/ resume
asciilifeform: ( given as seems you're still trying to grab it week+ after i posted.. )
dpb: i have been resuming lol. That's not really the point. It would make more sense to have it mailed at this rate
shinohai: Think it took < hr for me to mirroe dulap, wasn't terrible amount of time. Had tea, was finished.
asciilifeform: dpb: in various tests i get 1-2MB/s from dulap (outside of the cage, naturally). at e.g. lulazon closer to 2; from desk fiber -- ~1.5
asciilifeform: i expect depends heavily on your isp / its peerings
asciilifeform discovered very similar dynamics back in the day of piz
dpb: internet cafe insists it is not their end, but they are kids. I'm curious to get the boss out here and see what's up
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's cage is on a 100mb pipe; and, on most days, not very crowded.
asciilifeform: for 1.5x the current cost, it'd turn into a Gb/s; but again thing aint exactly packed, and i dun expect 100% of subscribed folx are itching to pay 1.5x moar.
verisimilitude: A nicety of renting a server is I can simply download things to it rather quickly and then pull from it at my leisure.
verisimilitude: I'm accustomed to waiting hours or days for downloads to finish, however, so I wouldn't be bothered anyway.
verisimilitude: The worst is how some HTTP servers disable download resumption.
verisimilitude: I've noticed that awful Dropbox company does this, and I've not decided whether it's more likely incompetence or malice.
verisimilitude: It probably wants only its client to be used.