verisimilitude: Yes, a stenotype may not be quite what I'm looking for after all.
verisimilitude: It's a shame I see no venue to purchase a CyKey from.
verisimilitude: What a further shame it looks like a wireless device, which becomes a security liability.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-15#1031591 << afaik that one's been extinct for many yrs. consider e.g. these. ( asciilifeform not personally tried linked vendor. but looks reasonably solid, and runs open fw )
snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-15 01:41:07 verisimilitude: It's a shame I see no venue to purchase a CyKey from.
thimbronion: I tried the Twiddler - don't recommend - tendon ripping buttons.
asciilifeform: found above via xah lee.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: not tried twiddler. if were playing with chorders again, would prefer one where can install standard-footprint clickies
asciilifeform: ftr 'microwriter' had absolutely perfect clickies. similar to a mouse's, but with metal levers to give'em good travel, and comfortably concave buttons
asciilifeform: !w poll
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asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $48491.21
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asciilifeform: PDogJr: didja read this chan's subj ??
asciilifeform: evidently not.
verisimilitude: I'm strongly considering this model, but I'd need to rebind all of it in software, which would be inconvenient.
verisimilitude: The Microwriter has a nicer chording model than this.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this is where the moar recent open fw items win
asciilifeform: i.e. can set up whatever chords and output codes you like
verisimilitude: One thing I've learned is I don't have both the discipline and the will to buy something unassembled.
verisimilitude: I've one ergonomic keyboard bought years ago I've never assembled, and it haunts me.
verisimilitude: I'd already come across gboards from looking at stenotypes, but appreciate the suggestion all the same; I may end up buying a cheap model here and testing it out.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there aint all that many chorders to choose from. gboard seems to be the cheapest / most customizable of the current crop.
verisimilitude: It's truly depressing that the situation hasn't improved in the nearly nine years since that article, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: situation with keyboards as a class, for the 3 decades asciilifeform's had contact with the subj, has been only deteriorating.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: outta curiosity, why do you want a 1-handed kbd ?
verisimilitude: I want to preserve my hands.
asciilifeform: naturally. but is idea here 'not type at all with $sparehand' ? 'don't look into laser with remaining eye'(tm)(r) ?
verisimilitude: No.
asciilifeform: then why not 2-handed chorder ?
verisimilitude: I'd use one, certainly.
verisimilitude: Plenty of the options I've seen are for one hand is all.
asciilifeform: iirc 'bat' has a 2-handed version.
verisimilitude: The BAT has a left and a right variant.
verisimilitude: That's four hundred dollars, though, so I'd probably buy a left and only a right later.
verisimilitude: I'd want to know I like it before buying both.
verisimilitude: Oddly, Xah Lee's article claims the BAT is less ergonomic, but that seems queer.
asciilifeform: may depend heavily on your particular hand geometry.
asciilifeform: (there's 0 reason why a chorder couldn't be made adjustible, but sadly most to date have not been, designer assumed that 'one size fits all')
verisimilitude: Unlike the gboard models, it has a case which looks like I could rest my wrist on it.
asciilifeform: can in principle retrofit wrist pillow on whichever device
verisimilitude: Yes.
asciilifeform: imho in world where chordism took off when it oughta have, they'd be made individually, like gloves once were (or eyeglasses still are)
verisimilitude: I agree.
verisimilitude: Ideally, I'd, but it would be exhausting to build this for myself, even with another's design, so I won't.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you find that chordism is the Right Thing for you, may eventually prove to be worth the effort
verisimilitude: That's something I loathe about this modern society, the lack of tailor-made items.
verisimilitude: My development in crafting such things for myself is also retarded by it.
verisimilitude: At least I've my tailor-made software.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i've found that quite often the only way to get the hardware i want, is to build.
asciilifeform: (and not only comp irons, but even seemingly simple things, e.g. furniture)
verisimilitude: I'd like to, but time passes and I never even start.
asciilifeform: here's an exercise -- try buying a 2+m desk ~from actual wood~ in usa.
verisimilitude: I agree, that would be a good start.
verisimilitude: I'll inform if I ever get around to doing this, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: spoiler -- unless you, personally, are in the biz of felling trees, and w/ access to sawmill -- prepare to pay $ 4figs.
verisimilitude: Unlike a keyboard, I know someone who could actually help me with this, also.
asciilifeform: good. otherwise -- will cost > than the electronics on/under it.
asciilifeform: this is merely 1 example.
verisimilitude: I see, ``actual wood'' doesn't mean pre-cut wood.
asciilifeform: 'actual' as in not mdf/particleboard/whatever other names ersatz wood goes by.
thimbronion was shocked to see the quality of wood used in "turd world" (extremely high) vs. pure plywood "homes" now all the rage here.
verisimilitude: I'm to understand this is as with food, thimbronion; bludgeon people until they don't know any better.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: on asciilifeform's homeworld, most folx lived in ferrocement boxes, rather than wooden
verisimilitude: Explain ``ferrocement'' here.
verisimilitude: Oh, just cement with metal.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: what I see down south is mostly poured cement + beautiful hardwood.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: e.g.
thimbronion: Idk what the shanties are made of - but at least lots of corrugated tin or something.
verisimilitude: Oh, I'm proud to write that, unlike building things, I've at the least been able to maintain a mostly-regular exercise routine for a ways now. At the very least, my body isn't decaying.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: a++
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i'ma bbl.
verisimilitude: Be well.