#asciilifeform | 2020-08-02

gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-01#1017693 << I must say that my own experience with substances has been somewhat to the contrary.

snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-01 20:15:27 asciilifeform: it is however my understanding that no dope can cause the eater to develop wholly new character flaws. can only magnify existing ones.

gregorynyssa: I expect you may have heard of this, but it wasn't in the logs, so I thought I would share it here, having just stumbled upon it myself:

gregorynyssa: https://collapseos.org/

gregorynyssa: "I expect our global supply chain to collapse before we reach 2030. With this collapse, we won't be able to produce most of our electronics because their production depends on a very complex supply chain that we won't be able to achieve again."

gregorynyssa: "To avoid this fate, we need to have a system that can be designed from scavenged parts and program microcontrollers. We also need the generation of engineers that will follow us to be able to create new designs instead of inheriting a legacy of machines that they can't recreate and barely maintain. "

asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: 'Built from a POSIX environment with minimal tooling: only cc, make and ncurses are needed.' << lol, 'minimal'

asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: this is leaving aside the 64e3 $ question, of why the everliving fuck does a z80 ~need~ an 'os'.

asciilifeform: aaand so fucking typical anglotard, 'discusses collapse' w/out any ref to e.g. orlov.

asciilifeform: ( nor bothers to discuss for ~what~ one might want a microcomp in the imagined apocalyptic hellscape. you can't productively rsa on z80 ( asciilifeform tried ) . so wat's left ? one last game of tetris before you eat yer .45 ? )

shinohai: Is there even bignum class for 8 bit microcontrollers ?

asciilifeform: shinohai: ffa-style bignum worx on whatever bus width. the issue is horsepower.

asciilifeform: ... and not only speaking of clocks here. for instance, neither z80 nor 6502 had an iron multiplier.

asciilifeform: so yer stuck w/ 'egypt'.

shinohai: But I added a turbo button.

asciilifeform: dontcha know these only work w/ 486!111

shinohai: Turbo button on z80 for whopping 5 MHz performance

asciilifeform: shinohai: it was from iron poverty that rsa did not catch on, even in 'golden toilet' circles, until '90s..

asciilifeform: shinohai: i have a 30mhz 6502 (yes) in parts drawer. (made on modern 120nm.) but these aint found in junkyards.

shinohai: neato

asciilifeform still laffing over 'build ncurses w/ gnumake for z80'

asciilifeform: !w poll

watchglass: Polling 12 nodes...

watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.029s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.136s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908 (Operator: asciilifeform)

watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.207s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

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watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.351s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.335s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

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watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.651s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908

watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.535s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=641908 (Operator: asciilifeform)

watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: jurov)