gregorynyssa: verisimilitude: Giacomo Tesio [banned from Lobsters][https://dev.to/shamar/i-have-been-banned-from-lobsters-ask-me-anything-5041] for pointing out a security-flaw in HTTP.
gregorynyssa: [See also.][https://medium.com/@giacomo_59737/the-web-is-still-a-darpa-weapon-31e3c3b032b8]
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: plz put link 1st, then text if you want it to work in logger
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: re tesio -- he aint wrong re wwwism, but i can't help but fall down & laff at fact that he hosts this essay on 'medium', where serves up MBs of liquishit, incl. js
asciilifeform: 'doctor, first heal self'.
asciilifeform has only 1 jsism on his www -- the highlighter thing
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015996 << 'professional' in these heathen pits is typically code for 'establishment stooge'.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 23:41:56 verisimilitude: ``I appreciate the anti-corporate vibe and at the same time wish they were a little more professional.''
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015997 << afaik last time had anyffin interesting was decade+ ago
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 23:42:37 verisimilitude: I do look upon Hacker News regularly, as it still has some interesting submissions, be they interesting unto themselves or interesting to mock for their stupidity; n-gate is also a nice weekly read.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 12 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.049s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.051s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.146s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.206s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.236s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.167s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.268s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.355s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.631s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638307
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) (Operator: jurov)
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/07/ley-de-urgente-consideracion-passes-the-senate-goes-to-the-president/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Ley de Urgente Consideracin Passes The Senate Goes To The President
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: no wonder. thanks.
gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-08#1016005 << that feature is nice. it is like a shallow realization of Xanadu's promise of transclusion.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-08 10:39:40 asciilifeform: has only 1 jsism on his www -- the highlighter thing
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: unfortunately the resemblance is skin deep -- in nelson's scheme, transcluded object ~knows~ that it was transcluded, and, conversely, the transclusions ~know~ when it has moved
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the js highlighter is simply blunt text offset pair.
asciilifeform: ( even that, doesn't 100% work , e.g. comments can't be highlighted. and mp's replacement mechanism (free of js) could not even span paragraphs or 'divs', so even e.g. this dunwork there )
asciilifeform: in principle it should be possible to bake a server-end highlighter that worx w/ arbitrary items on a www. but wp is gnarly enuff to turn this into an apparently permanent open problem.
asciilifeform: jsless variant also turns the process of making a highlight link into 'an adventure', but this one could live with. if the thing actually worked 100% otherwise.
asciilifeform: kludges that fail to make any kinda dent in the root of the orig. problem -- are ugly. 'news at 11.'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 13337 w4r3z.