asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 12 nodes...
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638153
watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638153 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.174s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638153
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.221s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.280s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=189709 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.622s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638153
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.128s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.381s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638153
watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.519s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.057s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=638155
shinohai: I've started tweeting pro-Trump and American stuff on twitter, and have amassed 1K followers in abt day. Any ideas for good trolls once the numbers increase?
billymg: shinohai: what's your handle on there?
shinohai: billymg: @SatoshiShinohai. Don't out me yet, I'm having too much fun.
billymg: shinohai: no worries, just wanted to follow for the occasional lulz
shinohai: I do in fact hate socialism, so most of 'em eat *that* up. I just think it would be hilarious to amass a few thousand conservative trumpateers then start tweeting porn or something.
shinohai: And omg the "QAnon" folks are absolutely Luke-Jr style batshit insane.
billymg: shinohai: i don't know how you have the stomach for it. it's something i regrettably check now and then, out of a sort of habit/addiction, to see what the current hysteria is, but extended exposure is noticeably corrosive
shinohai: I'm pretty used to sifting through internet dumpsters ... twitter fortunately still works under bitlbee so don't have to load all those dumb images and stuff, is also easily greppable.
shinohai: reddit actually makes me more nauseated than twitter. True story.
billymg: i quit checking reddit completely around five years ago, agree it's much worse
billymg: there's still some sane individuals on twitter, but every couple of months twitter purges a few more of them
billymg: speaking of the ever-creeping insanity, had to buy and then wear a mask for the first time yesterday simply to get into a nice grocery store
shinohai: srsly? Haven't encountered no mask, no entry store yet but most *do* limit # of ppl that can be inside.
billymg: shinohai: yeah, this particular store, in a heavy gringo tourist area, has been especially draconian in their policy since the whole thing started. also for whatever reason the "ministry of health" here has been amping up the fear lately
billymg: though even by their own numbers only a 0.4% mortality rate, and of those mostly elderly/sick
billymg: but the chart of cumulative cases sure looks scary
billymg: to idiots
shinohai: Mayor of Atlanta here conveniently became COVID stat after NatGuard called in. (See BingoBoingo 's latest article)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015910 << asciilifeform reads neither, wtf, life is too short to bathe in liquishit
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 12:08:44 shinohai: reddit actually makes me more nauseated than twitter. True story.
shinohai: I forgot to mention ycombinator, where nothing exists if not "muh rust, mug golang".
billymg: shinohai: lol, quit reading that entirely as well, don't even skim the headlines anymore
billymg: asciilifeform: i dunno what it is about twitter, it's an unhealthy addiction for sure
billymg: i think i check it mostly to see how the culture war is going
billymg: and as my grocery store example points out: like violence, even if you're not interested in it, it is interested in you
shinohai: I suppose it is for me too. I've noticed I can make 1 controversial statement, in come the lefties to hate on me then right wing joins the mosh pit against them. It's hilarious.
shinohai: I never even have to say another word and I get entertainment for 1/2 day
billymg: shinohai: lol
asciilifeform: imho approx. as appealing as burning ants w/ magnifying glass. but to each his own, i guess
billymg: asciilifeform: sure, but what happens when place where asciilifeform earns his bread announces mandatory "anti-racism training" or whatever. do you keep your dignity and quit, or submit and continue collecting salary?
asciilifeform: billymg: i've been to just about erry kind of salt mine. the usg contractor types had not only 'anti-sex' but 'anti-terrorist' and even 'anti-software-piracy' 'trainings'. these were multiple-choice www quiz things, baked by specialized law firm. and erry time they were announced it was a party, cuz was much moar fun than work..
asciilifeform: 'click on all the pictures of people who will get fragged if a grenade were to fall from the window'
billymg: asciilifeform: i've done the anti-"harassment" ones as well, agree it's just test taking
asciilifeform: they were hilarious, and a sort of comic relief from otherwise unimaginable snoar
shinohai: That's mainly the point of twitter thing, comic relief in sea of unimaginable idiocy.
asciilifeform: the twatter folx, near as i can tell, are serious tho
asciilifeform: ( whereas the quiz firm people were quite obviously mocking whole process even as they 'usg-certified' 9000 ways )
billymg: asciilifeform: hrm, at least in my situation, though the quiz material was bordering on satire, no employee dared openly joke about it
asciilifeform: hey trinque , deedbot has headache ?
asciilifeform: to return to http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015931 -- the 1 time really did end up 'cannot digest this, here's my resignation' was the place where the brass one day summoned asciilifeform to throne room, and unveiled : 'we have great honour for you! you will get 'top seekrit'(tm)(r) !'
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 12:57:59 billymg: asciilifeform: sure, but what happens when place where asciilifeform earns his bread announces mandatory "anti-racism training" or whatever. do you keep your dignity and quit, or submit and continue collecting salary?
asciilifeform: ( for non-usa folx : extremely unpleasant and irreversible 'join mafia' process, a la sovok, with numerous down sides and 0 corresponding increase in pay. but for some reason 'life dream' of just about erry galley slave. )
asciilifeform: iirc at 1 time, you couldn't be nominated if you had creditors or habitually took dope. which funnily enuff disqualified 90% of native usa folx.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015922 << last saw it, had progressed to 'mah start^H^H^H^Hpyramid scheme!'
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 12:46:57 shinohai: I forgot to mention ycombinator, where nothing exists if not "muh rust, mug golang".
thimbronion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015924 << I can't seem to stop checking @cernovich.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 12:48:18 billymg: asciilifeform: i dunno what it is about twitter, it's an unhealthy addiction for sure
thimbronion: he's really good at highlighting hypocrisies. I guess in a way I'm addicted to hypocrisy.
thimbronion: trinque: if you see ben_vulpes, plox to inform him of my reply: http://thimbron.com/2020/05/rule-britannica/#comment-127
gregorynyssa: very interested in 9th and 11th editions of Britannica.
gregorynyssa: also 1st edition (alleged existence of Tartaria).
thimbronion: gregorynyssa: I am very excited to see how this turns out.
thimbronion: the result will be here eventually: http://alethepedia.com/
gregorynyssa: thimbronion: nice. I will add that to my bookmarks.
gregorynyssa: on a related note, I wrote this entry about V for Vincular Science Encyclopedia (Chinese):
thimbronion: 迷人
gregorynyssa: thimbronion: yep (= trying to fix things up
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: amazing how useful IRC becomes when you have logging + reply-bot.
gregorynyssa: can't believe the IRC community looks down on logging.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: esp. given that fleanode/usg logs universally.
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: best i can tell, public idiots have a kind of 'ostrich' psychology, persuade selves that logging somehow 'isn't happening' if not public/searchable
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: right, I see...
asciilifeform: ( i suppose it also helps maintain appearance that their otherwise empty heads 'have activity', when can have exactly same thread 90000 times )
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: IIRC, TCP itself is rather broken, and we should ideally all be using UDP.
asciilifeform: megatonne of discussion in ye olde logs re braindamage of tcp (where e.g. any idjit can RST yer connection, or SYN flood, or make educated guesses re payloads via the plaintext sequence #s, etc )
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: saw the former link of course. will read the latter.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-07#1015952 << see also. (afaik most complete 20th c. encyclopaedia on www)
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-07 16:30:03 gregorynyssa: very interested in 9th and 11th editions of Britannica.
gregorynyssa: fascinating.
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: hadn't heard of Luby before this. would it be implemented upon UDP or raw IP?
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the only difference b/w the 2 is protocol# field..
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/07/new-national-drug-board-secretary-general-daniel-radio-moves-to-promote-cannabis-exports-by-simplifying-bureaucracy/ << The Montevideo Standard -- New National Drug Board Secretary General Daniel Rado Moves To Promote Cannabis Exports By Simplifying Bureaucracy
shinohai: re: earlier (reddit) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcXFEamWAAUa7Hd?format=jpg
asciilifeform: shinohai: snoar
gregorynyssa: shinohai: wow that is incredible
shinohai: laughable moar like it, but asciilifeform right - not really surprising.
shinohai: CEO already and said "Gibe my job to nigger"
gregorynyssa: in my exp. the Amer. left-wing serves ethnic enclaves, but cares little about individuals who are POC.
shinohai: (which honestly might be an improvement)
gregorynyssa: ie. cares little about "non enclave" individuals. the recent BLM effect on websites exceeded my prediction though.
gregorynyssa: Linode also had a BLM announcement.
shinohai: It's pretty much the only message any corporation cares to broadcast to the sheeple these days.
trinque: wtf is a poc
BingoBoingo: It's the lazy way to say coloured person
trinque: as part italian I feel my coloredness has been erased!
trinque: sicilian even. that's the blackest of italians
BingoBoingo: Right
trinque: gregorynyssa: the marketing people latch onto any meme they can; this one's distinct in no way.
asciilifeform for moment was quite confused, reads 'poc' as 'proof of concept'
feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-07-07 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- The Meta-Machine Code Targeted at CHIP-8: The Reimplementation
verisimilitude: I saw recently on Hacker News, from a smabie regarding the demo scene:
verisimilitude: ``I appreciate the anti-corporate vibe and at the same time wish they were a little more professional.''
verisimilitude: I do look upon Hacker News regularly, as it still has some interesting submissions, be they interesting unto themselves or interesting to mock for their stupidity; n-gate is also a nice weekly read.
verisimilitude: There's a similar community, Lobsters, which banned me for no rule violations, and it's slowly becoming more incestuous with this manner of banning.
verisimilitude: Now, PoC expands to ``Perpetrator of Crime'', trinque.