feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug << The Tar Pit -- A cursory look at the infamous TRB "wedge" bug
    
    asciilifeform: spyked: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-352
    
    asciilifeform: and s/DDOS/DOS
    
    asciilifeform: !w poll
    
    watchglass: Polling 11 nodes...
    
    watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.025s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289 (Operator: asciilifeform)
    
    watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.084s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
    
    watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
    
    watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.116s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286 (Operator: asciilifeform)
    
    watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.171s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
    
    watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.230s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
    
    watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.333s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635287
    
    watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.521s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
    
    watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.764s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289
    
    watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.400s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289
    
    watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.488s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
    
    spyked: asciilifeform, danke. fixed and answered: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-353
    
    asciilifeform: spyked: ty. http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-354 answered.
    
    asciilifeform: spyked: in case wasn't obv., 'feeder' is a kludge. i wrote it strictly because the 'catch-up' problem were still open. it beats the shit outta having to restart 9000 times to resync.
    
    asciilifeform: it does, naturally, require having at least 2 nodes, 1 of which at the moment is keeping up w/ the net.
    
    asciilifeform: previously i had an even moar barbaric kludge, powered by dumpblock, eatblock, and sftp ! to do same job.
    
    asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the fishwrap, lulz 'a la qntra'.
    
    shinohai: LMAO "His final note, filled with anger toward Robinhood, says that he had “no clue” what he was doing. "
    
    shinohai: Don't hate on the platform you alone decided to use to "trade stonks".
    
    asciilifeform: shinohai: it's pretty lulzy, traditionally these shops had a 'pay tenbux per trade' biz model. loox like nao, instead, casino
    
    asciilifeform: where 'bet 1 $ , lose 1mil'
    
    asciilifeform: at e.g. vegas at least you can't lose moar than you walk in with ( and yes there are kiosks there where can mortgage yer house in 10min, etc. but gotta actually have one )
    
    dpb: the article went on to say the kid wasn't actually in debt and it was an issue of being confused over the interface. The thing reads like an ad for the trading app veiled as a news story
    
    asciilifeform: dpb: entirely possible. i can't picture any stocks scamatron actually dumb enuff to extend $mil credit to rando penny-ante subscriber
    
    trinque: sounds very much like someone looking for a reason to off himself
    
    asciilifeform: supposing even this element of story -- factual
    
    thimbronion: mandatory masks nao in kkkalifornia.
    
    thimbronion: got to get out of here
    
    
    
    mats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaylSdd4QyY also notable
    
    asciilifeform: lol mats for whom is this horror ? folx who lost hands in power saw accident ?
    
    mats: ...yes
    
    asciilifeform: i suppose beats arse joystick
    
    asciilifeform admits, never felt the slightest desire to control comp via voice grunts
    
    mats: theres a good chance you will someday
    
    mats: rsi doesnt discriminate
    
    asciilifeform: i guess if enuff time with saw
    
    asciilifeform: mats: it does seem to afflict folx who enter great heaps of text -- perhaps surprisingly, asciilifeform doesn't
    
    mats: ive interacted with talon users who dont have rsi at all
    
    mats: and others who are paralysed neck down
    
    asciilifeform: i met a fella who used 'dragon' (in 2010s, i had last seen it on warez in 1990s) , he had parkinson's disease
    
    mats: until talon i had completely given up on speech recognition tools, things like dragon were and still are garbage
    
    asciilifeform: mats: already lost yer hands, or practicing in advance ?
    
    asciilifeform: ( and -- can't resist to ask -- gonna learn braille also ? )
    
    mats: one hand has been lost since i turned 18, the other one is in an early intermediate stage
    
    
    
    mats: i briefly contemplated learning to type with my feet
    
    asciilifeform: ever tried e.g. these kbd ?
    
    asciilifeform: ^ variant of ye olde microwriter iirc
    
    mats: key chording is how i initially developed the injury
    
    asciilifeform: re feet -- asciilifeform has pedals for 'meta keys' but not attempted text entry via pedal
    
    mats: lots of vim and then custom key combinations for gaming
    
    asciilifeform: hm i thought vi/vim were all about avoiding chordage
    
    asciilifeform: (e.g. the dreaded 'emacs pinky' disease)
    
    asciilifeform: and afaik current theory re rsi disease is that only lateral movement of fingers/wrist contributes
    
    asciilifeform: so theoretically a purpose-made chorder would not
    
    mats: maybe
    
    asciilifeform not expert on subj. had early symptoms of wrist rot 20y ago but halted as soon as discovered proper spring kbds
    
    thimbronion: asciilifeform: the chorder I tried had ridiculously bad keys.
    
    asciilifeform: thimbronion: there are folx selling kits where you can solder yer favourite switches nao
    
    asciilifeform: for chorders
    
    asciilifeform: ( same fella even has cast iron variant so properly sits still. however, i haven't tried. found by chance via xah lee's www. )
    
    thimbronion: asciilifeform: wow cool.  My hands seem to be in stasis with my current keyboard though.
    
    asciilifeform: thimbronion: i'm quite satisfied with my 'model f' circa '82.
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-10 23:12:50 asciilifeform: ( sadly can't buy'em anymoar, even heavily beaten ones. and mine i had to not only clean, but... paint, lol )
    
    asciilifeform: ( for thread-completeness, where to get controller board if you happen to come across this largely-extinct beast 1 day )
    
    
    
    thimbronion: asciilifeform: Have you tried a keyboard with a column stagger layout?
    
    asciilifeform: unlike the better-known 'model m', there's no rubber in these, nor rivets, 100% parts replaceable
    
    thimbronion: asciilifeform: I find with row stagger I need to contort my hands to fit.
    
    asciilifeform: thimbronion: have not. not sure what the point is ( plus they only seem to be available in heavily 'castrated' layouts, lacking not only 'left side f' but f keys in general )
    
    asciilifeform: imho if yer contorting, yer kbd is too small
    
    thimbronion: asciilifeform: was experiencing it on an 80s model m.
    
    asciilifeform: strange
    
    asciilifeform finds it odd that there's (afaik) no folx making custom-tailored kbd for individual measurements. when you get a suit, or prosthetic foot, or eyeglasses, it is ordinarily expected that it'll be cut to fit you. but for some odd reason not kbd.
    
    asciilifeform: it's rather like if erryone were expected to wear exactly the same shoes.
    
    thimbronion: hey well there are iphones of all sizes!
    
    asciilifeform: lol all 3 of'em or wat
    
    thimbronion: couple of different ipad sizes, maybe 3 different iphone sizes.
    
    asciilifeform: screen-drawn kbd ergonomic nightmare at any size
    
    thimbronion: indeed.
    
    asciilifeform: there's apparently a 'kbd customizing' subculture, but afaik 100% focused on cosmetic wankage ('lm-themed keycaps!111' etc). cuz actual shape customization requires cutting metal, i suppose
    
    shinohai: Best "modern" mechanical kbd I've found so far was unknown brand I found called "Redragon" ... been using the thing for 2 yrs now, handily cleans up in dishwasher nicely.
    
    asciilifeform: shinohai: i've thrown out, with disgust, erry 'modern' type bought so far -- they all eventually develop 'bounce' (contacts fatigue.) and none have left-side function keys, which i actually use, to avoid contortions
    
    shinohai: Yeah this one is "compact" and has no fn keys on side, but does sit atop the lappy keyboard just fine. (HP has a horrid keyboard on lappys)
    
    asciilifeform: shinohai: per asciilifeform's lights, if a kbd won't stop a .22 round (at least), then flimsy rubbish
    
    asciilifeform: e.g. 'model f', has ~6mm of steep b/w yer fingers and the desk.
    
    asciilifeform: *steel
    
    asciilifeform: 2 plates (1 holds the pistons, the other, 'anvil', is backstop )
    
    
    
    asciilifeform: ugh why
    
    shinohai: nfi
    
    asciilifeform: is exactly the kind of thing i was speaking of earlier
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 17:14:28 asciilifeform: there's apparently a 'kbd customizing' subculture, but afaik 100% focused on cosmetic wankage ('lm-themed keycaps!111' etc). cuz actual shape customization requires cutting metal, i suppose
    
    asciilifeform: homo redditus and his detritus.
    
    shinohai: https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/about-us  <<< in case anyone present doesn't know what homo redditus and "muh diversity" looks like in a keyboard "company".
    
    asciilifeform: ugh 'can't unsee'
    
    shinohai: kek
    
    asciilifeform: for historical lulz,  asciilifeform's 1st kbd.  (museum photo, not actual unit.) was nifty thing, magnetic reed switches, ~eternal
    
    asciilifeform: sadly, sovok never invented 'clicky' springs
    
    asciilifeform: still beat the shit outta current-day konsoomer junk, imho
    
    asciilifeform: item could be used as a blunt weapon and still function..
    
    asciilifeform: the little red button actually toggled rst line on cpu.
    
    asciilifeform: pretty handy in msdos.
    
    asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's brother introduced it to him as 'the any key' )
    
    feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-18 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Ellision Targeting toki pona
    
    BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014951 << Their mice and keyboards are sold at Tienda Inglesa of all places while noone's webcams are.
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 17:14:50 shinohai: Best "modern" mechanical kbd I've found so far was unknown brand I found called "Redragon" ... been using the thing for 2 yrs now, handily cleans up in dishwasher nicely.
    
    BingoBoingo: This not the make of the keyboard with mysterious entire left side failure.
    
    shinohai: I have had 0 problems with it so far, the last chinesium I ordered lasted maybe 6 months.
    
    feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/06/new-york-city-92-year-old-woman-attacked-by-31-year-old-male-registered-sex-offender-with-more-than-100-lifetime-arrests-atlanta-police-get-blue-flu-after-officer-charged-for-shooting-armed-suspect/ << The Montevideo Standard -- New York City: 92 Year Old Woman Attacked By 31 Year Old Male Registered Sex Offender With More Than 100 Lifetime Arrests; Atlanta Police Get Blue Flu After Officer Charged F
    
    BingoBoingo: Being displayed for sale at Tienda Inglesa isn't necessarily a damnation. Very good things and very awful things are sold there side by side. Does suggest the brand isn't entirely unknown.
    
    shinohai: I think it's an item more known amongst the pc-gamer populace. I bought simply for size and has backlit keys to make typing @ night much easier.
    
    shinohai: (Lappy also has backlit keyboard, but I hate chiclet keys)
    
    asciilifeform: verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014974 << in fact in 2007 (iirc) i wrote a lisp elizatron for toki pona. (sadly, lost in sands of time. not that much of a loss..)
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 19:18:51 feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-18 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Ellision Targeting toki pona
    
    asciilifeform hasn't had much truck w/ conlangs since
    
    asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014975 << y'know BingoBoingo , if you need irons from north ameristan, asciilifeform's magick iron teleportation service still inbiz
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 20:39:49 BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014951 << Their mice and keyboards are sold at Tienda Inglesa of all places while noone's webcams are.
    
    asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014977 << lol iirc this happened while i was there
    
    snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 20:40:47 BingoBoingo: This not the make of the keyboard with mysterious entire left side failure.
    
    asciilifeform wondered if in fact argentinian kbd
    
    asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not long ago had occasion to glue w/ cyanoacrylate, wondered 'wtf, came off right away' then looked -- argentinian tube. must've been from 1 of the expeditions to BingoBoingostan..
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Set on iron for a while.
    
    BingoBoingo has since found German cyanoacrylate here
    
    BingoBoingo: "UHU"