PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-05-07#1011418 << If we don't sign you complain "nobody reads", if we do sign you complain "idiots, should have caught mistake".
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-07 15:16:05 asciilifeform: fat lotta good the folx who supposedly 'read' and then signed ch15, did.
asciilifeform: PeterL: the readers aint any dumber than i. mildly surprised that nobody saw the hole, is all.
PeterL: BTW, in National Geographic Mag last mo there was an article about the Siberian Chukki people, included picture of a guy throwing a harpoon. Made me smile, made me think of you talkinging about "chukka" and throwing spears
asciilifeform: PeterL: i also wonder whether something about the flavour of the thing discouraged folx from looking critically.
PeterL: not sure if I got spelling right
asciilifeform: chukcha
asciilifeform: but i'm not one, so cannot authoritatively say re the translit
PeterL: you do have a very authoratitative tone, it is intimidating to question your works
asciilifeform: unintentional; but i can picture it. is is difficult to write maffs at any length w/out a certainty that what you've written is correct, and this bleeds into the picture
PeterL: I guess the ch15 problem is an example of the limits of testing - you could pick a bunch of ways it does give the correct answer and miss the one way it fails
asciilifeform: PeterL: worse. even tho relied on proof, rather than testing, my proof was braindamaged.
asciilifeform: ( as was the test, oughta have iterated through extremes as well as random liquishit. )
asciilifeform: PeterL: i have the fix, the eggogology, an' the new proof, written; will post after properly massaged.
asciilifeform: no particular point to hurrying these, esp. nao that my 'fans' , the ones who 'faster, faster' went home.
asciilifeform: in tangentially-related noose, i finally installed one of these . pretty great for taking maffs into sunlight. 0 oven warm-up wait, unlike laser printer. and ~indestructible, no rubber belts, nada. an' fanfold is great for reading, always stays in order.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-04 00:03:59 asciilifeform: in other noose, found out that not only are dot-matrix 'fanfold' printers still made, but one can get very fast (i.e. >1ln/s) one that eat a3 paper !
asciilifeform: a++ linux support, also. again unlike various konsoomer garbage.
asciilifeform: this particular one is a 'tally dascom 2600'. recommended, to anyone who comes across a 2ndhand one.
PeterL: Of course you would use the commie scum paper size of A3 instead of the good old American, God-given ledger paper size. You proabably want us all to use metric too, don't you?
PeterL: </sarc>
asciilifeform: lol where in usa could get a3.
PeterL: I dunno, A# paper sizes make more sense to me, I wish Americans would switch.
asciilifeform agrees
verisimilitude: Does this recent issue change the opinion on solutions such as SPARK at all, asciilifeform?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it aint clear to me how spark could've helped. item was an algo, rather than programming, mistake.
asciilifeform: on top of this, i've yet to witness a mecha-proof thing that doesn't turn 1 pg of coad into 40pg of barfola.
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 11 nodes...
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.133s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.174s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.346s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.317s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.623s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=629570
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
asciilifeform: in other lulz, jurov -- dekulakized apparently?
asciilifeform mildly surprised that there was apparently remaining fodder for the 'haha, i'ma unperson folx & eat their coinz' mill.
asciilifeform: with what organ were you thinking, jurov ..? when you left coin there.
asciilifeform: incidentally, jurov , perhaps my monitor's defective, but i dun see any mention of mp in the tbf charter.