mats: i feel your pain
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness -- Apocalyptic's barrett.
mats: in stale news, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/11/accelerationism-how-a-fringe-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in
mats: https://www.c4isrnet.com/intel-geoint/sensors/2019/09/30/stealthy-no-more-a-german-radar-vendor-says-it-tracked-the-f-35-jet-in-2018-from-a-pony-farm
mats: https://thediplomat.com/2018/07/why-the-civil-nuclear-trap-is-part-and-parcel-of-the-belt-and-road-strategy funny that beijing is picking up where eisenhower's 'atoms for peace' left off
mats: more than a little condescending to imply BRI nations are too corrupt or stupid to understand the deals being made
adlai: mats: the reason i inquire, is that there's no magic to how bitbet worked: the parimutuel weighing is straightforward for anyone to reimplement, and the bookkeeping of potential payout addresses is only a slight headache; the escrow of funds is the primary problem, but i'm certain mircea isn't the only person in history willing to play such a role
adlai: my point being: the "sporting spirit" is far from dead; it seems to me that the main trouble is that, during the ~recent~ aftermath of the bitbet liquidation, folks don't trust each other enough for such an enterprise to work
adlai: merely saying that someone gets "ten out of ten on my kyristor" is near-meaningless; the much more effective kyristor is "how much of your coin does that person owe you"
adlai: re:atoms, an amusing anecdote from Karman's autobiography is his answer to Einstein, when the latter petitioned him to add his signature to some shared letter about how nuclear weapons will be the death of humanity
adlai: twas along the lines of q:"will you join our coalition of nuclear physicists against weaponization?" a:"no, i'm just a rocket scientist"
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-01-05#1004828 << pretty lulzy usg agitprop. (apparently the quality dropped through the floor even 2y ago, i simply did not notice, not being aficionado)
snsabot: Logged on 2020-01-05 05:14:53 mats: https://thediplomat.com/2018/07/why-the-civil-nuclear-trap-is-part-and-parcel-of-the-belt-and-road-strategy funny that beijing is picking up where eisenhower's 'atoms for peace' left off
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-01-05#1004831 << nuffin stops you even now from making bets with a friend
snsabot: Logged on 2020-01-05 09:54:22 adlai: my point being: the "sporting spirit" is far from dead; it seems to me that the main trouble is that, during the ~recent~ aftermath of the bitbet liquidation, folks don't trust each other enough for such an enterprise to work
asciilifeform: it worked 1000y ago and will still work in 1000y from nao.
shinohai: ^
shinohai: yay oglaf is back https://www.oglaf.com/supplies/
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/01/iraqs-parliament-votes-for-removal-of-us-troops/ << Qntra -- Iraq's Parliament Votes For Removal Of US Troops
shinohai: "despite the USG troops in Iraq fighting just about everybody except ISIS" >gold
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, you mentioned earlier some ru forums were using triple integrals as captchas, mind sharing some urls ? I've yet to see such beasts with my own eyes
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: this was in distant past. but some examples: limits puzzler on 'lurkmore' ;
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: integrals captcha in php
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: i dun know of any places where currently in battlefield use. ( i suspect, were phased out as schooling deteriorated to the point where not 1 in 1000 can solve the puzzle in anyffin like reasonable time)
asciilifeform: the ~triple~ integral specifically, iirc was on a physics forum that has vanished.
shinohai: I always liked your xor captcha
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's just a notch above e.g. bbet's arithmetic puzzle.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2020/week-1-2020-review-wrestling-with-nsd-after-standing-up-trb-nodes/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Week 1 2020 Review - Wrestling With NSD After Standing Up TRB Nodes