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asciilifeform: meanwhile in oddities : apparently #a readership includes.. mp . evidently even this didn't help.
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-28 mircea_popescu: it gets you stuck saying patently dumb shit like "alliance of the smart against the stupid" when what you quite transparently ~really~ mean is very much "i thought this guy was gonna vouch for my imaginary partitions of a) above!" ;
snsabot: Logged on 2019-12-26 15:33:02 asciilifeform: in other noose, this apparently nao settled.
asciilifeform: ( Official pos. re what we have here, is 'lamer cemetery'. whatcha doing in the crypts, mp ?? )
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-28 mircea_popescu: no sucks because... it really doesn't. once you decide you actually "like" your dysfunction, or in any case you're not equal to its remedial, you're stuck hanging out in #asciilifeform with all the other cripples.
shinohai: I thought we were an alt #bitcoin-wizards
asciilifeform: lol, the old nsa altcoin chan? wonder if still alive somewhere
shinohai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-12-26#1956038 <<< subj, from the "Hey vassals, gotta remove creators name from header" debacle.
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-26 mp_en_viaje: in other housekeeping, hey diana_coman lobbes wouldja mind taking alf's derpy alt-bitcoinwizards off the loggers header list ?
shinohai: And heh, #bitcoin-wizards still operational under gmaxwell. Seems that whitequark guy still logs it.
asciilifeform: shinohai: hey, it was a freely-published proggy ( under 'mp's license' no less. ) folx can use it if they want. and in fact i made it 'from old shoe' in <week.
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that even after months of 'discipline' , and even coin thrown at the problem, mp et al still ~using~ it..
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-12-28 mircea_popescu: so listen... while you were away there's been a lot of progress ongoing in the republic, these guys now have blogs and stick to publishing planning schedules and such wunderbar alien techs. you gonna catch up with the group ?
snsabot: (trilema) 2019-10-30 mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.
shinohai: Because php is such a non-ass-sucking dependency.
asciilifeform: maybe in another yr+ the 'ask permission to play guitar' people will deliver php logotron.
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-17 diana_coman: whaack: well, the fun of guitar + surfing, for all the fun that it is, will need to be earned rather than just taken for granted.
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-26 diana_coman: well, if you don't update it then your end of week review should note you failed to deliver what you promised and as a basic consequence, next week there's no guitar and no surfing and no spanish; easy.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, i find diana's thing fascinating and read it erry day. and in fact read all '9000' kilometres of it. apparently no org is too small to re-create, if smart, dedicated folx are determined to do it, sclerotic bureaucracy of late-era sovok )
whaack: asciilifeform: fwiw i'm working on a mega logotron
asciilifeform: whaack: i saw. wanted to ask : didja find 'intelligent life off-planet' ?
whaack: asciilifeform: well i'm seen some great ascii art from connecting to different servers.
asciilifeform: whaack: last i tried this sorta experiment, this also was all i found.
shinohai thinks the lisp logbot is a fine bot, just sorely needs www front-end published.
whaack: asciilifeform: but as of yesterday I just got the channel list, hopefully the logging will begin on a 1month timescale rather than 1yr
asciilifeform: whaack: in all seriousness, this is good experiment ( tho you may want to add proper reconnect logic, which cl-irc off-the-shelf does not have )
whaack: asciilifeform: I am extending logbot which has reconnect logic, and also putting a restart mechanism in case one of the network's sends some message that makes cl-irc barf http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thefleet-a-systematic-exploration-of-the-irc-space/?b=The+next+step+is+to+cre&e=they+sink#select
asciilifeform: whaack: neato. may want to learn php tho, i suspect you'll be asked to rewrite it in php..
whaack: asciilifeform: lol i hope not
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-12-28#1004619 << gotta publish whole thing, shinohai .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 16:03:53 shinohai: thinks the lisp logbot is a fine bot, just sorely needs www front-end published.
whaack: asciilifeform: you pinged me at the right moment, i'm writing my thoughts on shrysr leaving DCU which necessarily includes how I've perceived your excommunication
asciilifeform: whaack: best not to get distracted; 'ilsa, she-wolf of auschwitz' doesn't like when folx are late. but if afterwards you have sumthing for asciilifeform in particular, this is where to post.
shinohai: lmao @ "Ilsa, she-wolf of auschwitz"
asciilifeform: hey, shinohai , some folx ~like~ s&m. some -- coprophagia. some prolly can't even stand up their cock w/out it. who am i to say they oughtn't ?
asciilifeform: some folx even enjoy being treated like 'indian visa coder' w/out the pay.
shinohai: All things have their place I suppose, BDSMisms just part of the "New Republic" or whatever.
asciilifeform: ( not applicable to diana, who -- last i knew -- ~was~ being handsomely paid )
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's an aging thing. forebrain sometimes atrophies, leaving what remains. e.g. american writer r. a. heinlein, wrote passable yarns for half century, but in old age became ~unreadable, ~100% of material started to be about his secret inner desire to turn into woman and get fucked by copies of self
asciilifeform: ( aficionados say that he may've 'flipped' sooner, but the editors wouldn't print such lulz. but in 1980s, became 'respected & famous' and unencumbered by 'narrow-minded censors', and so... )
Apocalyptic: re Heinelein, is "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress" worth a read ?
shrysr: whaack: iirc it was called younghands.. nfi whatz 'DCU'; anyway - while I tried to learn from observing what asciilifeform faced, my decision process was based on things I identified as relevant to myself.
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: it aint bad, imho. tho h's attempt to 'language of the future' made it difficult to eat.
Apocalyptic: shrysr, it stands for "Diana Coman University"
Apocalyptic: and indeed the chan is an interesting read
shinohai waits for the day when acolytes must be issued a bathroom pass and ask for permission to eat also.
asciilifeform: shinohai: this is already , as i understand, implemented -- at mp's meatspace s&m inpatient clinic
shrysr: Apocalyptic: really ? :) is that like an upgrade?
asciilifeform: shinohai: possibly diana will build own copy, w/ boys rather than gurlz , ordered to eat from dog bowl etc
Apocalyptic: shrysr, I'm afraid I didn't read that far
shrysr: okz, holler if/when you do ;)
asciilifeform will bbl: meat.
shinohai: Приятного аппетита!
whaack: shrysr: DCU (diana_coman university) is a nickname for younghands coined by lobbes
whaack: Apocalyptic: derp, i missed that you answered first
shinohai off to range to practice with rapid-onset-lead-injection-devices ...
adlai: dunno wth you think that hyphenated verb means, but unless you're shooting targets constructed in quite a precise fashion, you are either perforating, or causing hydrostatic shock.
adlai must admit to having never, not even once, found the bullets in the farther half of the range, during the minutes leftover while those responsible for other targets were still computing groupings
adlai: poverty-engineered infantries do not use much fancy technology for this kind of activity, so it takes a bit of time to figure out who fired the bullet responsible for each target's each perforation
adlai: although for all i know, these days they just leave a self-owned cellphone a meter from the cutout's heart, and have the soldiers bear responsibility for hitting the wrong trajectory
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/12/phillippines-bars-two-us-pantsuitist-senators-from-entry-threatens-imposing-visa-requirement-on-all-us-nationals/ << Qntra -- Phillippines Bars Two US Pantsuitist Senators From Entry Threatens Imposing Visa Requirement On All US Nationals
whaack: shrysr and asciilifeform: http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thoughts-on-shrysr-leaving-younghands-and-asciilifeforms-excommunication/
asciilifeform: notbad piece, whaack , but gotta nitpick -- shrysr aint ' working for asciilifeform nao ' ; simply happened to tune in.
whaack: asciilifeform: ty. will respond later, stepping out
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: re 'booting people out' -- presently i dun have a spam/bandwidth problem, given the very low traffic. nor atm much concerned w/ 'freeloaders', as presently neither giving folx anything nor asking for any. if someone dumps kilometres of nonsense, may have to put in 'voice' door. but so far 0 reason to bother.
asciilifeform: as such, who wants to tune in, can do so (or simply read log) , incl. 'biorobots', or more generally folx i disagree with.
asciilifeform: 1 of the reasons why liked working w/ mp, was that he was a reliable & methodical critic. these -- quite rare.

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