shinohai: BingoBoingo: http://btc.info.gf/paste/968905@raw
BingoBoingo: tyvm
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I've got a revision/expansion for you to check out before I hit publish http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=APhB
shinohai: ack, reading nau
shinohai: I like BingoBoingo ^.^
shinohai: Kudos on the ref thing, imma add a macro in vim to append that to all links in future if you have no objections.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: No problem at all. Rethinking things Qntra did, and seeing how archive.is appears increasingly unreliable... adding the ref tag to urls seems to be the way.
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/04/colombian-cruise-ship-sinks-venezuelan-patrol-boat-after-the-latter-rams-reinforced-bow/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Colombian Cruise Ship Sinks Venezuelan Patrol Boat After The Latter Rams Reinforced Bow
thimbronion: Who archives the archiver?
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: At some point I think lobbes may have tried to put that project on his plate, but the archiving web 2.X stuff presents a lot of hard hard problems.
BingoBoingo: Javascript for presentation and all manner of cruft.
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I do recall.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I plan to keep archiving anything reuters or AP since those fall off the web in mere weeks, but otherwise make the mvdstd known in the linked publication's logs
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I'm sure this was discussed back in the day but archive.is does allow downloading zips of all archives. Might possibly be worth setting up a cron job to download any archive.is links in published stories.
thimbronion: This is something I could do.
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: Well, when this was discussed with respect to Qntra, the idea was that while such a thing could be nice the reputation of the WoT publication would grow such that people would realize the linked stuff rots over time.
BingoBoingo: I also wonder how much of a demand there really is for the .zips
thimbronion: Certainly worth asking before putting the time into it.
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: Yeah, compared to doing something with http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/agriculturalsupremacy/2020-04-02#1001720 the upside to archive fiddling seems low
ossabot: Logged on 2020-04-02 14:17:48 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: I have some more jumping off points wrt quantifying how much it costs China to buy USG policy: https://archive.is/ingEa, https://archive.is/wJAUl, https://archive.is/D25N0. I don't know exactly what do do with these, but creating some sort of table with hard figures comes to mind.
thimbronion: I admit though that I thoroughly enjoy juxtapositions of past positions of pantsuit media with current positions relative to subject, though I also admit I've never done that myself and I'm not even sure Qntra did a lot of that.
thimbronion: BingoBoingo: noted.
BingoBoingo: thimbronion: I don't recall too many hard examples from Qntra, but the shiftiness could be observed looking through the archives on a number of matters though... Much of the pro-fat, into-the-trans stuff was already set or started by 2015
feedbot: http://mvdstandard.net/2020/04/new-york-governor-cuomo-sends-troops-to-take-ventilators-from-rural-hospitals/ << The Montevideo Standard -- New York Governor Cuomo Sends Troops To Take Ventilators From Rural Hospitals