asciilifeform: trinque: my last attempt at 'vtronic portage' ran into the brick wall of 'there are nongenesisable items in the tarballss'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what precisely are you thinking of attempting?
asciilifeform: not speaking of machines here, i dun have a 'large comp that ain't a c machine' to even test with.
asciilifeform: the drooling idiot's 'i will Define By Implementation!' horror.
asciilifeform: this is not much of a definition, it encompasses more or less any comp that is large enough
asciilifeform: ('nqb' for instance is about half of a zero-otherpeoplescode implementation of same.)
asciilifeform: trb (the currently existing item) could quite conceivably run on entirely different type of machine, under emulation (smbx , for instance, shipped... believe -- a c compiler, in genera. along with fortran, ada..)
asciilifeform: 'c machine' has a specific meaning, refers to the type of cpu that traces descent to the transistor-impoverished 1970s, when bounds check was seen as unaffordable luxury.
asciilifeform: any day of the week, thing can be silently and imperceptibly broken.
asciilifeform: the presumption that i have to prove the negative here, is ludicrous.
asciilifeform: the compiler is now gargantuan. and neither it, nor the binaries disasmed, 'fit in head.'
asciilifeform: one possible 'fix' is ada-shaped -- compiler makes up for the retardations of c machine, inserts array bounds checks, type checks, etc.
asciilifeform: i also suspect that any system that can be thompsonized, eventually will be (given as it propagates, the transformation is permanent). but that is separate point.
asciilifeform: really reduces to 'any system that doesn't fit in head is trivially thompsonized.'
asciilifeform: but oughta see that thompson is an absolute bar to hygienic computing ~with gcc~ or any other similarly complex compiler.
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that mircea_popescu has a correct understanding of thompson.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has it, there is a variety of ways to break out of a hypothetically thompsonized universe. but -- for some reason -- ~entirely 'not done'.
asciilifeform: the one where 'i can read an eprom without a comp. and write it without a comp. now where is your thompson bomb.'
asciilifeform: but yes, you can elementarily 'exit the cave' by using grid paper, head compiler, toggles. in fact this was one of the first ( the first ?) threads with asciilifeform on mircea_popescu's www comment section
asciilifeform: (rather than by, as bellard did, compiling with gcc.)
asciilifeform: tcc not so, but only if you bootstrap it by hand-compiling to grid paper and entering via toggles.
asciilifeform: the problem with applying this principle to c compiler, is that c offers ~permanent~ fertile ground for booby
asciilifeform: take my old example, 'boobytrap an fpga.' elementarily you WILL need to somehow fit an ai in there, to create any serious problem for UNKNOWN bitstream
asciilifeform: phf: the basic theorem involved in breaking out of a thompsonism is specificity-of-diddling.
asciilifeform: (picture if two d00dz were sent into two separate dungeons , and promised impalement if they come out with c compilers that produce binaries for particular test program that differ EVEN IN ONE BIT. quite impossible for them to avoid the stake, because c is ~nonstandardized~, in the sense where the standard does NOT specify all cases)
asciilifeform: the standards group stopped short of 'any compiler that shits out a bitstring different from the official one for a particular cpu, is nonconformant', however.
asciilifeform: strictly so that they can be thus compared.
asciilifeform: incidentally the folx who designed ada, read thompson's paper. and immediately acted. which is why in ada you get 'driving stick'-style control over the compiler, the order in which it puts down routines, and data structures during 'elaboration', and can leave bread crumbs for manual binary auditor (yes) to look for when he compares (yes) binaries built on different systems for same rocket.
asciilifeform: but whereever in the loop one begins to use, e.g., gcc -- from that point on, thompsonized.
asciilifeform: (incidentally ~all extant c compilers 'thompsonize' and nobody even seems to notice, because it passes as 'optimize')
asciilifeform: thompson's demo worked for arbitrary N layers.
asciilifeform: i will add to phf's summary -- if the problem afflicted ~strictly~ compilers, it would be quite easy to solve -- write bootstrap in asm. but there is no rule that it has to affect strictly compiler. could just as easily be - say - the ~loader~.
asciilifeform: (can simply be row of lamps, and moving photo paper.)
asciilifeform: it is not difficult to build a gadget that dumps an eprom to paper tape
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if i can't connect comp to $othercomp at bus speed - you lost me.
asciilifeform: enemy pumps in new hardware that 'you MUST support, or otherwise you WILL buy your comps on ebay strictly' faster than you can driver.
asciilifeform: it isn't a 'separate matter', it is a lifetime of liquishit pumping
asciilifeform: aha. ideally something very simple, that 'looks like typo'
asciilifeform: ( not to say that this is practical, but it would be ~the~ thompson angle. )
asciilifeform: ( the other is to build system out of movable blocks in such a way that it becomes conceptually impossible to build a proper 'surprise' )
asciilifeform: phf: the need to 'trust the foundry' evaporates under the 'SOLELY fpga fabric' model of computation. we had the thread.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant is -- i buy comp hardware secondhand, almost always
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the availability of general-purpose comp was ~pure accident. and quite temporary. just like, say, lathes used to be ubiquitous back when auto repair needed one.
asciilifeform: is that very soon it will be impossible to build a usable comp on demand.
asciilifeform: phf: the reason why i have not attempted the contemplated exercise, nor seriously encouraged others to do so, is that you are right -- c and unix MUST die.
asciilifeform: it is physically impossible to do an honest job of such a thing.
asciilifeform: phf: problems that cannot be solved, are to be properly compartmentalized -- consider a house with a toilet, vs one where the occupants shit where they stand.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: at one time, gentoo came with instructions for how to build it from 0 (using only an existing c compiler, and buncha src tarballs)
asciilifeform: and ideally we would be killing the heathen swamp rather than placing it on life support
asciilifeform: the eulora thing is complicated because gpu
asciilifeform: phf: hey, they 'deprecated' flymake (that works with all sane compilers past and future) in favour of 'flycheck' liquishit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but the impression i used to get in the past, is of cynical fraud, well aware of the sheer lunacy of the claims
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: oh hey the allende central planning computer thing
asciilifeform: CompanionCube: ~90% of the yield to date, is on account of debian
asciilifeform: CompanionCube: this is the typical daily yield. it usually comes out in 2-3 bursts tho.
asciilifeform: and also shift with temperature.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's use, if it isn't obvious, is a fairly obvious abuse. the 'intended' use is of course for chump to be used as a 'content generator' draft horse by the hucksters, a la traditional publishing )
asciilifeform: or pump a man so full of lead, he gets taken to quicklime pit in a wheelbarrow
asciilifeform: as per naggum's example of 'comp industry 'learned' from microshit'.
asciilifeform: (d00d who thinks that he's a demigod, but i have nfi what he actually accomplished with ~own~ hands other than the tired old trick of 'turning a billion $ into a million')
asciilifeform: if d00d had toiled in a lab for 20 yrs -- that is some, bare, minimal contact with physical reality and cause-effect systems, perhaps comparable with an auto mechanic's 20 yrs in garage. and so i might listen to an experimentalist for ~that~ reason.
asciilifeform: '"You have reached the Russian embassy, your call is very important to us. To arrange a call from a Russian diplomat to your political opponent, press 1," the recording begins, in Russian and English. "To use the services of Russian hackers, press 2...'
asciilifeform: i've contemplated adding, e.g., 'download as pgp key', 'download as ssh key', etc buttons
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'comp has no business being anything other than large fpga' and 'swamp of nic drivers that have 0 legit reason to exist' are elementarily plagiarized from us
asciilifeform: in other lulz, for everyone who 'enjoyed' shitoshi's 'varints' -- the retardation apparently is endemic, and even has named!!111 'standards' complete with shitlang demo suites: http://msgpack.org
asciilifeform: microshit's sponsorship did not ~immediately~ turn openbsd to liquishit, but it is foolish to expect that it can withstand infinitely many years of it with 0 symptoms
asciilifeform: the comp flies it.
asciilifeform: can lordly hall be a dumpster in alley ?
asciilifeform: for selling chewing gum where wrapper had instruction 'climb to the top of a tall building and think of what you must accomplish before death'
asciilifeform: how is printolade ( the last time asciilifeform bought postage stamps, they came out of an INKJET PRINTER i shit thee not, right in the vending machine) a hedge of any sort ?
asciilifeform: so presently asciilifeform is unimpressed
asciilifeform: 'Huddleston, though, isn’t a hacker. He’s the author of a remote administration tool, or RAT, called NanoCore that happens to be popular with hackers. NanoCore has been linked to intrusions in at least 10 countries, including an attack on Middle Eastern energy firms in 2015, and a massive phishing campaign last August in which the perpetrators posed as major oil and gas company.'
asciilifeform: this is in their employment contracts.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/rGR0p >> '...federal public defender Colin Fieman wanted to admit some of the Wikileaks documents into court. The idea was to bolster his argument that even with a forensic examination of the defendant's computer, it would not be possible to see whether someone else planted child pornography on the machine, because the exhibits may show the US government has "the ability to hack into a computer witho
asciilifeform: trinque: erlang wasn't simply about 'uptime', or even 'no pointer arithmetic', it also was the only case i know of where process migration actually worked
asciilifeform: but if you scratch off the savage ochre paint etc. you can see '1958' stamped on the steel.
asciilifeform: (it has useful examples from telecom systems)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not to bytecode, not to forth-style threadedcode. had actual optimizing compiler, like gcc.
asciilifeform: it was a general-purpose thing that compiled down to x86.
asciilifeform: trinque: my current understanding is that derps say 'system language' when what is meant is 'has something that passes for a x86 compiler, and a c ffi'
asciilifeform: trinque: what means 'compile and you're a good boy' ..?
asciilifeform: why would anybody even name a comp lang 'rust' ? how about a surgical antiseptic named 'putrescence' ?
asciilifeform: it simply ain't believable
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'rust' link simply gotta be a parody
asciilifeform: 'Italy could soon offer menstrual leave Parliament is considering a bill that, if approved, would require employers to grant women three days of paid leave every month.' << from same rag
asciilifeform: 'And Taaki began to believe that returning to the UK and completing Dark Wallet’s development would allow him to help Rojava better use bitcoin as a fundraising tool, one that would circumvent the US and EU sanctions that prevent any funds from being transferred into Syria.' << wat.
asciilifeform: countless examples.
asciilifeform: like a motherfucking bumper ought to be.
asciilifeform: or, say, where the bumper is OF RUBBER
asciilifeform: or simply cardboard box.
asciilifeform: they still charge tax, it simply gets rolled into electric bill, etc.
asciilifeform: 'we won't take even 1$ from you -- we'll simply give 1$ to everyone not-you.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: complete with a 'basic income' article.
asciilifeform: CompanionCube: certainly looks quite like it.
asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/haisa.ro >> 'e to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. ...'
asciilifeform: not long ago i walked to post office along different, for no good reason, path, to mail a FG, and saw the largest and most impressive dog i ever saw
asciilifeform: but overall folx oughta remember mircea_popescu's observation from c3, that any attempt to reimplement ye olde grandfather's pistol from scratch, will almost certainly have at least one lethal 'accepts something the old -- would not' defect.
asciilifeform idly wonders how many folx who implemented 'btc protocol' also used 'the wrong megabyte'
asciilifeform: some example snips : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mJAHZ/?raw=true << handling of shitoshi's var-ints
asciilifeform: e.g. that it is possible to operate on a thing of bitcoin's complexity, in constant space AND time
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that a complete btctron can fit in 10k-line of ada.
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack : yes, it is possible to implement ecdsa in constant space. after all, the sigs are of constant size, and the payload is maxed at 10,000Bt.
asciilifeform: implements good chunk of shitoshi's liquishit.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: actually implementing script verification is a serious work, quite likely to take entire year.
asciilifeform: philosophically, the d00d who lights the match, and the one who stands and watches, are 'same' ; in practice -- different, in that if you shoot the latter, very soon your kingdom is empty
asciilifeform: approx, d00d : 'what is this' asciilifeform : 'technical samples' d00d : 'promise you'll take them back where you came from' asciilifeform : 'mmok'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg will loot everyone who is still worth anything who has any vulnerable limbs in usgdom -- just as it looted 'olympus'
asciilifeform: phf: there was a considerable shadow world of folx with 'big dreams' re sane comp, but ~0 technical capability, e.g., r. kulisz
asciilifeform: it is simply not possible if there are active graybeards, forming a perimeter defense
asciilifeform: the important thing is that this process is exactly like the growth of fungus in aids patient
asciilifeform: 'wanna install widget W ? ok, now install auto-liquishit-pump so it can download 10,001 turds and THEIR dependencies, and gender-fixes'
asciilifeform: hey it isn't impossible.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the animal, imho, doesn't have a skin that anyone might care to wear. if you remove the safety, it simply becomes a muchly verbose cpp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a thread a few days ago re sister-fucking, as example
asciilifeform: mod6: in principle you can always beg compiler for mercy and introduce 'unchecked', c-isms. or even (1 line, in fact) import arbitrary c.
asciilifeform: ada in particular is 'a harsh mistress', you can sit for 3 hrs and your thing simply won't build, gcc won't eat it, and you gotta actually open the book and grasp the reason why, brute force knob-twiddling will get you 0 result.
asciilifeform: (because the reference is a simple integer, showing where thing is found!)
asciilifeform: (i.e. fetching an output or input is a simple array access)
asciilifeform: ( as it is, it is simply a REALLY fast block and tx flow explorer )
asciilifeform: i must confess, this is 90% of the work there will be, in any attempt to convert nqb into a btctron.
asciilifeform: ( and fought, successfully, the temptation to release the thing before the mmap'd replaces-all-the-db-and-indices thing is properly done )
asciilifeform: Hasta siempre, Comandante!111
asciilifeform: 'In September 2006, Yau established a public relations website, which disputed points in it. Seventeen mathematicians, including two quoted in the New Yorker article, posted letters of strong support. On October 17, 2006, a more sympathetic profile of Yau appeared in The New York Times. ... The article stated that Yau had alienated some colleagues, but represented Yau's position as that Perelman's
asciilifeform: welcome, CompanionCube .
asciilifeform: good Bitcoin then sucks for current Bitcoin, it is no different from Novacoin or whatever flavor of the week failed altchain.' (mpoepr)
asciilifeform: and before that, they dabbled in eldritch horrors, e.g. optical comparators
asciilifeform: pet a pampas cat yet ?
asciilifeform: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837136.msg18324180#msg18324180 >> 'Note back in 2013, MPeX sent me (@AnonyMint) a PM. It was something about his enemy @rpietila who he refers to as "tortilla". Since then Risto has had his laptop hacked, been put in a mental ward and subjected to forced medications, etc..'
asciilifeform: mod6: imho manual knobs ~for unwedging~ are a fundamental mistake. nodes shouldn't be wedgeable, period. and the only use for a wedged node is to learn why it wedged and to make said scenario impossible in the future.
asciilifeform: mod6: the knob isn't strictly necessay, you can pipe dumpblock into sha512
asciilifeform: trinque: the mexicans, with their nominal christianity, iirc, seem to demolish the blacks wherever the turf wars include both. so maybe not so simple.
asciilifeform: mod6: it'd be a fairly trivial mod of dumpblock .
asciilifeform: this'd let you quickly compare the leading train of two nodes
asciilifeform: say, 'dumpblockhashes', eats an N, dumps sha512 of each of last N blocks known
asciilifeform: dump currentheight, currentheight-1, ..., a dozen, say.
asciilifeform: dumpblock also worx
asciilifeform: or possibly i simply missed it.
asciilifeform: 'If you're spewing off BS about "diversity" and "empowering women" while direct-depositing $1000s into nazis' bank accts every 2 weeks... ...then you're part of the problem, not part of the solution.' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: 'Assange has resorted to blackmailing tech companies with 0days.' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: let's say gavin writes a forked client that incorporates the entirety of traditional bitcoin, and keeps both blockchains around, simply to refuse to spend any output that's been already spent somewhere in actual bitcoinland.
asciilifeform: 'We will implement replay protection'
asciilifeform: 'Hello asciilifeform I see on coin.dance/nodes , The Real Bitcoin is listed with the 'Emergent Consensus' feature tag. Could you tell me if that's accurate - will you follow a HF to > 1MB , and could you tell me anything about how it's implemented in TRB ? Thx!'
asciilifeform: enjoy mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: classical trb simply throws those out, as malformed rubbish in ProcessBlock()
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i guessed this, from your statement.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632698 << zero instances in my trb logs to date, mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc above was from the mit derps
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: expand plox re 'expand the downstream'
asciilifeform: ( jurov might have details, he had some proprietary thing of his own that required a prb in the loop, complained of massive headaches )
asciilifeform: oh hey mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: and military equip. ( compasses, aircraft gauges )
asciilifeform: !!up CompanionCube
asciilifeform: !!up CompanionCube
asciilifeform: !~later tell TomServo you were right, it wasn't the clock, the original log is monotonic ( probably oughta post it publicly ) -- the boojum is a failed reorg, and it is impossible to say why it failed, could be disk rot.
asciilifeform: TomServo: odd, i don't see anything re timestamps in there
asciilifeform: (or , alternatively, a catastrophically buggy timestamp printer )
asciilifeform: physically impossible without a broken clock.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: he must've put in timestamps, at some point, iirc a few people did
asciilifeform: also what patch set do you use, TomServo ? my trb doesn't have time stamps, for instance.
asciilifeform: in the form of imposed 'living expenses.'
asciilifeform: the other end of it is that the afghani has no printing press dumping usd on him by the megatonne. and if he did -- someone would collect it back , yes
asciilifeform: barbed wire , mine field, machine gun for the locals who are slow to get the message; imported slaves working inside, extracting molybdenum or whichever.
asciilifeform: ( from luser pov -- price is 'exactly same', landlord simply collects the usg payola )
asciilifeform: fwiw i walked away with same impression as phf
asciilifeform: ( perhaps ought to point out : amphetamine is not food, and also is not sleep )
asciilifeform: where, for example, do i buy a nic that doesn't dma ? or a cpu that works with it.
asciilifeform: kinda hilarious, while the two 'cans of campbell soup' duke it out over massive-blox vs elephantine-blox, boring ol' workaday usgolade, e.g. 'pki', quietly made it into all prb variants
asciilifeform: the sheer depth of the retardation, ( https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0070.mediawiki ) >> 'Human-readable, secure payment destinations-- customers will be asked to authorize payment to "example.com" instead of an inscrutable, 34-character bitcoin address.' 'Resistance from man-in-the-middle attacks that replace a merchant's bitcoin address with an attacker's address before a transaction is authorized with a hardware w
asciilifeform: in other lulz, didjaknow, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/qt/paymentserver.cpp#L111 << prb imports ssl certs ! the whole shit soup
asciilifeform: the trick is not crapple-specific, either, most new laptop includes 'thunderbolt' plug, which is simply external pci
asciilifeform: 'Also included in this release is the manual for the CIA's "NightSkies 1.2" a "beacon/loader/implant tool" for the Apple iPhone. Noteworthy is that NightSkies had reached 1.2 by 2008, and is expressly designed to be physically installed onto factory fresh iPhones. i.e the CIA has been infecting the iPhone supply chain of its targets since at least 2008.'
asciilifeform: dun become tru simply by mircea_popescu saying it.
asciilifeform: it simply gotta die, pay has 0 to do with it.
asciilifeform: and -- for completeness -- Fyootoor Tech that mircea_popescu knows about, and asciilifeform -- does not.
asciilifeform: this, afaik, leaves 'get considerably reduced expectations of what comp can do, and start making out of 1980s parts, and TTL' -- which is great, except no bitcoin
asciilifeform: the gabriel_laddel approach -- 'oh hey i'll just pave over the swamp, nothing will ever fall through the pavement' -- also does not work, and is quite destructive to the sanity of folks who attempt it
asciilifeform: ye olde chip racket, as exemplified by xilinx (see thread), where 'by the time the docs leak, not only we stopped making it 15 years ago but go and buy even secondhand one!' -- remains operational.
asciilifeform: not missed , that's what prompted the line of thought
asciilifeform: i thought about getting one with amd g-series -- and was at the point of seriously attempting it when the latter began to show signs of death
asciilifeform: turning vectorade into bitmapola really oughat be happening inside, or at least near, the lcd -- rather than in the comp.
asciilifeform: amiga -- did; but this 'bolixed' it into a price point where it was outcompeted by the 64 !
asciilifeform: 'gimme a real comp, everything else can happen either later, or on dedicated nintendo'
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to pump audio, or animation, etc over it.
asciilifeform: on all comps, american, soviet, martian.
asciilifeform: and NO extant iron implements it honestly.
asciilifeform: we might have had this thread, but one example of unfixable yet ubiquitous braindamage in iron: usb.
asciilifeform: (and this is a 'clean' example, that mostly ~works!)
asciilifeform: so you gotta walk the buses, in turn, before it becomes even meaningful to attempt to speak to the thermometers.
asciilifeform: or, more pedestrian example,
asciilifeform: massive shit show, and it is only ONE example.
asciilifeform: often there are subsystems, i'll give concrete example:
asciilifeform: ( because pretends to an isolation that is physically impossible on the iron )
asciilifeform: the concepts in question reduce to very basic sanity, which the transistor-impoverished people of the '70s-'80s simply could not afford : cpu that understands context ('is this word part of a bignum? where does the array end?'), programs that hold enough info to restart/repair, and various other.
asciilifeform: but that no one else was even contemplating highres graphics in single user workstation.
asciilifeform: simply, the other minis had by then vanished.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/ADnD6 >> 'Nunes set off the firestorm with a news conference earlier in the day in which he described the surveillance of Trump aides through what’s called “incidental collection,” something he noted was routine and legal.'
asciilifeform: 'we live in the best of computings, bolix died on own power' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult to compress decade of archaeology into 1 persuasive paragraph. esp. to persuade a fella who in his panglossism has determined not to be persuadable.
asciilifeform: the result, however, is that the ~singularly~ most interesting comp from 1980s -- is ~entirely lost .
asciilifeform: it wasn't an outrageous / illogical / atrocious thing to do. smbx was a fabless chip maker which competed directly with, among others, TI ('explorer' lispm)
asciilifeform: re 'non-crown' jewels of bolixdom, one example of useful thing that does not publicly exist anywhere -- the mere pinout of the 'ivory'.
asciilifeform: the 'i know people...' is what prompted the req.
asciilifeform: 3) the uncensored (compl. with low-levels) src for last (8.3 afaik) genera.
asciilifeform: we had a lively thread not long ago, where asciilifeform complains re primary activity of the top bolixologists seems to consist of sitting quietly, dog-in-the-manger-style, on piles of unpublished goodies
asciilifeform: ( maybe 90% of the material is in some sense 'computer related' lol )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's wrong with stainless steel clamps ?
asciilifeform: ( and quite impervious to radiation )
asciilifeform: tru. which is why dead empire, in 'egyptological' museum, and not on the map
asciilifeform: had (surprisingly to some folx) the first 'elbrus', quite competitive with cray1
asciilifeform: orcs just pour golden toilet, and prop up western 'bank' chumpatron.
asciilifeform: ( and hitler was not even the champ, in his circle. consider the idiot chicken farmer's 'ahnenerbe' for instance. )
asciilifeform: in terms of alchemy impact.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tru! but won't be pin-compatible with traditional roms
asciilifeform: not without paying for the fabbing wholesale (at which point you have asic, and can simply have what you want in the asic)
asciilifeform: every couplea months i do an 'can haz otp rom?' and answer, as always, is 'nope', not at any price, simply not made in past 30 yrs.
asciilifeform: PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1601534 << example kernel config
asciilifeform: i tried five different ones, incl. compactflash adapters, no dice.
asciilifeform: presumption being that they took photos, of the 'crime scene'..?
asciilifeform: who ELSE could've possibly complained lel
asciilifeform: i set up a lisp in there once, even (i forget which, may have been clisp) but it was a pain, whole process had to be born when page is loaded, and promptly die
asciilifeform: the thing is hyper-optimized for hosting well-ddosed blogs. and specifically ones running on 1990s-style software, where the cpu is idle except when somebody is actually loading a page. but other than that imposes no restrictions on proggies you run, last i saw you even had gcc in there, could build own, run.
asciilifeform: at any rate, for the price it is quite impossible to beat, i have nfi how they are able to supply this kind of service, at that price.
asciilifeform: that one time i sent a sample of boards to mircea_popescu , in 2014, was a real lulzfest
asciilifeform: https://camp.hsbp.org/2016/pp7e0/fahrplan/system/attachments/22/original/camp__.pdf << sooo i look at his pcb -- antenna track?! then read, 'key exchange over 2.4GHz', 'post-quantum crypto (newhope and symmetric)'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when deciding what to plant on the 'criminal' comp, naturally
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/0qmNU << from same rag. 'The US Third Circuit Court of Appeals today upheld a lower court ruling of contempt against a chap who claimed he couldn't remember the password to decrypt his computer's hard drives.'
asciilifeform: ^ complete with 'oh it wasn't the tor, believe'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html << arm cross-flags example (from ye olde trb)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you really oughta cross-compile the whole shebang
asciilifeform: i did find myself wondering, what exactly microshit did to make sure that it in fact ended up happening in 'we heard of computer in 2010' planet.
asciilifeform: entirely inexplicable failure of any stream subclass whatsoever, from any example code whatsoever, to work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: americans also buy socks on layaway, it is simply structured differently.
asciilifeform: chix went wild as they watched the hempen jig danced, the jizz fall
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cabs in usistan are peculiarly expensive, i still have nfi why. it's the thing that ultimately spawned crackpot chumpatrons ('uber', 'lyft', etc)
asciilifeform: trinque: the one mega-road in md/dc that never, ever jams, and is gloriously empty, you can feel like chinese emperor on his private forbidden city road -- is 200; where you gotta pay ~tenbux end to end
asciilifeform: ( but oddly enough, even a very jumpable, strictly ceremonial fence -- keeps'em on the sidewalk. why -- i do not know. )
asciilifeform: there is a reason why the fence is the 'most stereotypically american' furniture of the landscape. everything, even the most worthless empty lot, ruined cement plinths overgrown with weeds, is fenced in -- and if you don't fence in even own front yard, sheeple will trample it to dirt within weeks
asciilifeform: 'Computer paranoia is inspired by an industry aggressive enough to liken internal competition to war and incompetent enough to ship faulty, dangerous products.'
asciilifeform: p.37: 'Market competitors wasted no time in knocking Microsoft's long awaited Windows environment... ...Microsoft, however, says that the criticisms ranged from unfair to incorrect. Says company spokesperson Marty Taucher "We changed the product significantly so it would support existing applications. Allegations that it does not, as (Quarterdeck president) Therese Myers says, and that you need to 'step aside' to support other progra
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is interesting, in the american 'computing' mags of the time, to see the ads, how the pictured people are dressed, even
asciilifeform: 'IBM PC Creator Dies. DALLAS--Philip D. "Don" Estridge, 47, IBM vice president of manufacturing and former head of the Entry Systems Division, which developed the IBM PC, was among the six IBM employees killed in the August 2 Delta Air Lines crash at the Dallas/Fort Worth airport...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have allergy to 'Simplicity! Is Best! Simple life, Simple toolz!!!' folx, who, on examination, are able to carry along in he delusion strictly because they do ~0 nontrivial work with own hands.
asciilifeform: bulldozer that amplifies my intelligence and makes such thing as, e.g., unravelling trb, possible, is not 'balcony tomato'.
asciilifeform: in fact discussing specific domain here, as example, commonlisp.
asciilifeform: but it consists of pumping liquishit from one vessel to another.
asciilifeform: 'imponade'
asciilifeform: anyway it isn't a 'replacement for emacs', and serious emacsists do sometimes spit, 'i can do this from TRAMP' etc.
asciilifeform: this is just an example, of 1 among 1,001 tools in the toolbox.
asciilifeform: y'know, many folx name comps/autos/rifles/etc.
asciilifeform: trinque: uniquely bad example, ww1+2 put a very permanent, i suspect, hole through 'euro civilization'