(trilema) ben_vulpes: my popesculator appears to function just fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see any disagreement here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i thought?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "yes i let you use her but she's still mine no matter what show you two got up to in the bedroom"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda surprised to not see a gf lending metaphor from mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has the republic dispelled with the illusion of the multi-user unix machine yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure but it's been going on like this for what three years how
(trilema) ben_vulpes: omfg colander
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then i waste a year and untold piles of shitbucks on docker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is seen as an inevitability and not a cancer somehow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: shibboleth of ruby where nothing gets installed cleanly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grow a budget, get some servers, problem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > isolation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not great for anything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "great for development environments" no, no it is not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: worse than mongo in that it contaminates /everything/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: silicon-valley developer finger trap. can't go away soon enough.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no bitch, you will give me that process that is hosed. i want to diddle it further.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh, no, why would you ever want to do that? aren't you a professional opsbro? with centralized logging? containers are ephemeral, you low-dough derp! they crash and go away!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but that's not all! say one wants to get into a running container where something went wrong to inspect it's state
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i--dirty. it--enjoyed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have wrestled this pig
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you say this as though you think i'm unaware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: "if you care about your data integrity, our tool is not for you"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the endless pile of "i would like to perform what i consider a basic operation of type X" "here have a shell script of awk and sed"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let us not mention the ever-shifting api, the utter failure of to do MOTHERFUCKING GARBAGE COLLECTION, the miserable and useless state in which it leaves disks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude *the* problem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the hft guy" wrote what i consider the canonical beating, mirrors my experience quite exactly
(trilema) ben_vulpes happy to chime in on docker shit parade
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did you get your number yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yes, i move extremely slowly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624970 << where once you were a crackpot laboring in public obscurity, now you are a luminary of the republic. defections will continue apace until the old empires yield their last secret.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not a c proggy, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HAVE YE VISITED MOUNT DILDO FORGE, NEWCOMER?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > forged from used dildos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no dick sucky, no javascripty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (not that the barf in question makes any goddamn sense in the first place...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well how am i supposed to advise without being able to repro?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh heh heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey trinque didja hear that one about cups and the symlinks?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relatedly, from #elsewhere, "dude shows up with a thousand farmers on camels. what, tell him to fuck off?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or grow up and get a bouncer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: onlooker: close the tab and read the logs proper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not i
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'some regiments may be cut to ribbons and run on contact, but that does not make them useless'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque sez, 'running around with phorkz not defense in breadth'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i'm up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have never understood what 'scripting language' was
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i miss the point then, try it like i'm five?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: has nothing to do with language choice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: and then there would be only one logger, which is not in my book the best of worlds.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: defense in breadth.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the other point i didn't get to make is that i dont' buy the 'personal failing' line; redundancy uber alles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suspect a pythong?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: has an html wrapper around his irc bouncer, phf's is custom (afaik), no idea what jhvh1 and lobbes run
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unimportant, like trinque said
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well now i've lost the frame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: not to knock what you've built, or aggrandize myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: 3 bots operated by one man are not 'in breadth'
(trilema) ben_vulpes can tick off at least 3 republicans not in chan
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623540 << something something defense in breadth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: taking part in the republic, also a mess of a concept.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/wallet.cpp?v=makefiles#0306 << the "no seriously i mean it" flag in action
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh i've yet to get my sucking tonight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol much surprise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ironclad dood wrote the thing in college and then got a job?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh no i'm thinking of ccl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clisp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuckin waste of a temple
(trilema) ben_vulpes blows brains out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other water-related engineering projects, here's something that is very definitely not a lock: http://gcaptain.com/worlds-first-ship-tunnel-to-bypass-dangerous-seas-in-norway/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nominally
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, it's julia tourianski!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also something something maersk and ibm cockchain tekmologies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in more lcs gold: http://archive.is/XcC3N << not only are the damned things made of paper and disintegrate as soon as you drop them in the water, but the amount of money that the usg.navy has burnt on them is actually so embarrassing as to be worth a classification fight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wakefulness ad libitum!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have nfi what is in it, but spied the cover on the way out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaand in other ultra amusing covers unearthed while partying at the cousins... http://archive.is/udKgb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the thing that finally sold me was unique footnote references across corpus.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, doing it right is a small shitton of work, very nearly all of which and more is wrapped up in oldish wordpress.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what else lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my trinque-simulator sez "wtf with this sqlite; have a process listening for changes to the comments table and re-rendering the comments page upon submission"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw i thought long and hard about this and ultimately migrated to mp-wp.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!key Framedragger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know we have 'fraud prevention without js' already
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: siempre
(trilema) ben_vulpes: denominated*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if invest time as well, returns are denominate in knowledge.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh i'd rather invest in dirt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rip cash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor cash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and where's cash in the 2007 col
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol, n. am equities did so badly they didn't even make the screenshot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, won't be at this place long enough to make proper rotation worthwhile
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, do sector rotation next!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gains in any asset.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no idea what you're getting at by pointing out that cash outperformed everything (incl. vg index funds, duh?) plus that index gains occur on a limited number of days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't cash outperform everything in 2007?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm, part of the sro song and dance they do down here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski missed vanguard takeover of the world? ria's successfully still hawk high load funds in the northeast?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lolk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > find two or three prospective all stars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other rallies and gendered binary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKdi7MN7lCQ
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey at least we get an interesting pricing exercise out of it!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myup.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of the things i took away from the past week of mega logs is that blockchains may have finite lifespans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, if you want to drive, must have a car.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well there is the protocolitic commitment that if the transaction is included, the miner will receive a fee, but that's it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is the cask system design necessarily exclusive of a mempool design?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and there's no way to get transactions into blocks absent casks, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, you walked the promises side of the problem exhaustively.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: roll i mean, not ask
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of trbi, did i miss a way for a parent to cancel a cask ask shy of fibbing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: rotation and timestamping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a desirable situation? that trb logging include timestamps and shit into log that which came from whom?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aight, aight, i forget that i'm the only person using svlogd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hash and height for that matter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well come now, "it didn't connect at minute 1, 2, 4..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: off the cuff, would an exponential whine backoff suck?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: congrats to you, you did all the hard work. tank brigade goes nowhere without the engineers laying down bridgework
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is what, ten minutes of work to set the master up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't have a master in place yet, but i am also willing to extend wire peerings to my l1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neat street, stan my man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey hey! i've got a node wired up to dulap.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting etymology
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this bhai bhai?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slow to the show, but http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks/419373
(trilema) ben_vulpes: previous block hash claims to be 0000000000000000036D2AFA6270C3A58C9A2093C706F0EACA4018E54BF2879C
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doubtful that i would find it in the web interface, but possible in the blocks.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and this doesn't actually render the header in a digestible form. okay, disregard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in *my parser
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with the caveat that there is something funky with satoshi counts in this parser that i have yet to properly nail: http://cascadianhacker.com/2584.txt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in order of receipt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yes, that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: linear barring orphans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there a straightforward mapping of height to position in blk.dat i missed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: block of interest is last in blk0036.dat?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it'll procure previous hash from a given block, could be taped into making a list of blocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 0036.dat downloaded
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what means "draw the motherfucking tree"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: ty, fixed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aya, give me a few
(trilema) ben_vulpes wouldn't know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > 404
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same url?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > page not found
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 0036.dat also implies a trb .dat file, not a dumpblocked file? happy to crack it open and see though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tape has since self-destructed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aye, let me find the log line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd be happy to send you any relevant bits, let me package up what i have for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it doesn't do too much, depends on blocks having been dumped via dumpblock.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not in toto, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes yes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: such naivte
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: that piece was stuffed full of 'gdb', 'gnu debugger' screenshots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: baww fuq
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no idea what goes on in these certificate program scams but i can't imagine not leaving if someone actually put a coloring book in front of me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > TR 30 uses the familiar Windows 2000 operating system with graphical representations of the entire radiochemical process
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nope and nope.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > I guess and I don't bother to check, so check it yourself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, that does sound useful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no butt and i must lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am but a lol-sniffing pig of the web
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see also http://imgur.com/a/jiX1g
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's how i differentiate myself from the basket of undesirables; their hrcb comes with penises which is just i can't even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i like my highly-refined corn byproducts generously seasoned with WOKE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "tearing libtards arms off and beating them to death with them since before you quit facebook"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cracks in the edifice of ideological hegemony are starting to show, though: "You have the choice between standing for a cause or standing against whoever disagrees with you. One choice may result in a boycott. The other can build a bridge."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "in the pussy? in the mouth? in the butt? YES."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the other day, one of these wha ads streaked across my vision and i was amused at how /female/ the campaign is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://gradybritton.com/advertising/engaging-political-action-brand-rising-noise-without-alienating-consumers-2/ solid chuckles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pig*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what means "giving back the yet-unfucked-once ping back to the late von neumann"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: awwww ye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in which donny t demonstrates complete twitter mastery: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/836933725602656256
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: spot on, as always
(trilema) ben_vulpes: open bsd mitm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ty, mircea_popescu's line that '(I suspect USGtards would call it a "PRNG")' had me thinking in that line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can anyone recommend a paper or book with a rigorous definition of "computationally secure pseudo-random number generator"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those interests are pretty much providing a home to the royal sons of whereverthefuckistan, and effete boys with which they frolic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tell a nigga bout it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oregon is a sovereign, dontchaknow! has...interests!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other truly top notch lols, "Moreover, the executive order forces Oregon to violate its own laws against discrimination, frustrating Oregon's sovereign interest in providing a welcoming home to people from all over the world"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tried again, with possibly adequate specificity this time!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-121460 << bug in screw examples?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > we love microchips - that's why we boil them in acid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa pretty phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620306 << to round the thread out, i also enjoy veen's company tremendously
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not the pipes necessarily, but the garden; dog; wife; child; engines of my own...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would watch all day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: to entertain your scenario, i go elsewhere because i'd rather watch the big hydraulics.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would you rather go watch pipes be dug out of the ground than whatever it is you went elsewhere to do?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: escape is a rather mean characterization, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes is weak, especially to joys of flesh and fatherhood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: child is fairly engaging too.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: raging sea of dopamine at haus is difficult to carve focus space out of
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what minions? what order?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: metaphor is rather thick, i cannot see through it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: talking about driving to get the compost.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all things i want more of in my life, just like regular americans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: move, drive further, waste more time in cars, depreciate ice assets faster, depreciate spinal column faster
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "moving" does not produce compost for growing veggies, wtf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: digging peat out of the ground kills me; i grew up running around on 100yr old moss blankets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: how so fail?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: getting right with the dirt spirits, though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has nothing to do with cost of disposal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i have time and energy, i'll be experimenting with the pickled food waste compost + charcoal in a different corner of the yard, in planters to mitigate externalities
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my 'experts' suggested fish compost, coconut coir instead of peat, pumice, rice hulls, misc. fertilizer and rabbit manure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bad day for der clerd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i heard parts of the bezosnet went out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh is heroli down as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i attended one sometime in the last five years, and it'd been sadly neutered and taken over by the mayos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tits and spankings frequently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some grooming and recruiting obviously
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: in portland, when i was a wee one, they were a deliberately not-as-raunchy-as-they-could-be bdsm-lite-junior-queers-and-thespians social club
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not in my wot, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also something something mildly transgressive with the homostuff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess there were raves as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: horny teen girls need a culturally sanctioned place to be horny in public, 'twas the best most of america had post y2k
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't much know about paths out, but hatred is definitely the fuel for the torch i use to burn a moat around my tiny castle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1619682 << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRiZRMLGjCY ("down, down, down, down!")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: excellent logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: valuing reserves sounds a lot like "multivariate calculus for experts"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can saudi arabia not buy russia?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: since it's quiet: http://archive.is/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-23/saudi-arabia-2-trillion-aramco-vision-runs-into-market-reality
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll just keep mashing buttons not hooked up to anything, like an ape
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, no rush
(trilema) ben_vulpes: join, part, /me thinks cool!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't see the final part