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(trilema) mike_c: if you want to short BTC there are better ways than investing in one of these companies.
(trilema) mike_c: the problem is that the company is then competing with the BTC/fiat ROI
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: its paginated. bitcoinscammers.com/page/3/ bitcoinscammers.com/page/4/, etc
(trilema) mike_c: this practically is a complete list of current:
(trilema) mike_c: harder though
(trilema) mike_c: plus, doesn't have to be complete to publish. start with recent ones and work backwards.
(trilema) mike_c: yes. the20year is going to be on the wrong side of that unfortunately.
(trilema) mike_c: kako won't come to the us
(trilema) mike_c: four more months i think until my 1 year bitcoin-assets birthday.
(trilema) mike_c: it took mysterious other parties to convince him there was a point.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks for link jurov. good post, i will be bookmarking for the six times a week i forget how to calculate the profit on those.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't get it. which of those do you have trouble getting money out of?
(trilema) mike_c: mpex + JD = more excitement
(trilema) mike_c: apparently the batteries don't do well when pierced from the bottom by road debris
(trilema) mike_c: re: telsa fire. this video caused a stir stateside a few months ago:
(trilema) mike_c: hm. vimeo is choking. i think this the link:
(trilema) mike_c: carrying stuff will not be its forte.
(trilema) mike_c: whatever i tell it to! raspberry pi driven. has camera, distance sensor.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm excited. my robot is coming soon.
(trilema) mike_c: they are on github
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, cross-compiling early is usually a good idea. especially when you get other people to do it.
(trilema) mike_c: any plans on updating git?
(trilema) mike_c: damn, see, my client converts it
(trilema) mike_c: “ copy and paste ftw “
(trilema) mike_c: blank and blank
(trilema) mike_c: i think it depends on irc client. i don't think my client could even send anything that would break it.
(trilema) mike_c: dang, i forgot to apply for my innovation permit.
(trilema) mike_c: “ off the record? “
(trilema) mike_c: damn, didn't work
(trilema) mike_c: ۞ so, like, this line should be off the record.
(trilema) mike_c: anybody know why some log lines show up blank?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but you have to multiply the BTC x the exchange rate at the time :)
(trilema) mike_c: this might be it. over 1000% return, not bad.
(trilema) mike_c: a demanding bunch.
(trilema) mike_c: that was a house bet. i'm curious what the best gain on a user bet was. i'll look through.
(trilema) mike_c: 277 was a special bet though
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, i glanced over the "on #277" somehow
(trilema) mike_c: hm, but hard to tell which bet the wagers were on, right?
(trilema) mike_c: who won the lotto?
(trilema) mike_c: anticipation..
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. i was kidding. except about the good for business part.
(trilema) mike_c: i figured that was one of your sock puppets. those scam threads are good for business :)
(trilema) mike_c: i'm sure they were poor. i did not pay much.
(trilema) mike_c: you might be surprised. i've hired some odeskers for transcribing before and it worked pretty well. hit and miss though i'm sure.
(trilema) mike_c: google needs to get those internet blimps out there already.
(trilema) mike_c: bitcoincharts seems to be up, but not mpoe
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
(trilema) mike_c: heh. odesk is probably best to keep sanity intact.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but i couldn't see the video because it was on edgecast. on a different connection now and it works. thanks for the link.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, you did like the sting though. great movie, also with some odd plotlines.
(trilema) mike_c: only if done entertainingly though.
(trilema) mike_c: i hope you weren't saying you didn't enjoy boiler room. granted, it's not good film, but it is enjoyable.
(trilema) mike_c: pigs i can't help with.
(trilema) mike_c: "The number of goat is about 1220000." hehe
(trilema) mike_c: how could it not be true?
(trilema) mike_c: random internet page of course.
(trilema) mike_c: wow, there are over 1m goats in romania.
(trilema) mike_c: lowlife goatherder. harsh!
(trilema) mike_c: good luck.
(trilema) mike_c: i am curious how the havelock crowd will react to what is at least a good fiat investment.
(trilema) mike_c: date set?
(trilema) mike_c: can't access edgecast servers.
(trilema) mike_c: i wish i could watch. fking internet is broken today.
(trilema) mike_c: i love your posts, just not sure if they are universally admired
(trilema) mike_c: bitbet proposal: kako is re-banned on bitcointalk by march
(trilema) mike_c: right. light bulb. that is a significant difference between shorting with options vs. x.eur :)
(trilema) mike_c: wasn't that coindesk's problem with mpex shorting? that you still end up with bitcoins.
(trilema) mike_c: that would also work.
(trilema) mike_c: sure there is. rename it to cognitive V2.0
(trilema) mike_c: i know we are beating this thread to death, but davout made me lol hard
(trilema) mike_c: legal ambiguity. hence his first comment about being able to afford a lobbyist.
(trilema) mike_c: but i do have a few beat up coins i could sell you
(trilema) mike_c: i am not.
(trilema) mike_c: mpoe shares are on sale today. get 'em while they're cheap.
(trilema) mike_c: bitbet isn't laundering money for drugs. you can come to the us. i hear ohio is lovely.
(trilema) mike_c: i like gold implants though
(trilema) mike_c: that was a hefty price for a tooth given a dental implant is only about $3k
(trilema) mike_c: daily email maybe. i'd pay for that.
(trilema) mike_c: you should publish mpoe-pr's btctalk summaries and charge for them.
(trilema) mike_c: jackpot is usually like 100k though
(trilema) mike_c: carribean stud tries to do that with a table game
(trilema) mike_c: plus there is a world of blue-haired ladies with nothing better to do.
(trilema) mike_c: er, i meant to send that to BingoBoingo :) re: floorspace for slots vs table games
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: last time i looked at a casino profit chart it read like: 11b profit on slots, 1b on table games.
(trilema) mike_c: looks like everything is there. thanks kakobrekla, that will be useful.
(trilema) mike_c: awesome. you are hailed. kako is booed.
(trilema) mike_c: Namworld: i don't think it's fair to say mpex bizness went down when btc price went up. november and december were high volume on the options exchange, it's just that mpex was on the losing side of the bets.
(trilema) mike_c: round numbers! so exciting!
(trilema) mike_c: ~150 btc between s.mpoe and 0.001
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. what is their final review? they check if you have a pulse? ;)
(trilema) mike_c: good news? date set?
(trilema) mike_c: there you go
(trilema) mike_c: no, you gotta get the full name. that would probably trigger scripts people have that check for their name. then you would *really* piss everyone off.
(trilema) mike_c: just trying to help. it would boost your conversion funnel for sure.
(trilema) mike_c: who's going to respond to "Guest"?
(trilema) mike_c: you should write a script that grabs a bunch of the names of the people in the channel and prints those out with your spam. you'd probably get more attention that way.
(trilema) mike_c: congrats on that btw.
(trilema) mike_c: happy birthday to bitbet. 1 year old, here's 20btc!
(trilema) mike_c: bitbet is going to make 20btc on this one bet. wow.
(trilema) mike_c: i just said totally. shoot me please.
(trilema) mike_c: i would totally buy the snsa wallet pack with a device for cold storage and a device for lukewarm storage.
(trilema) mike_c: nubbins`: yes, but wouldn't you like to replace your hot wallet with a snsa wallet?
(trilema) mike_c: that seems attractive to me. i can keep more money in a lukewarm wallet instead of a hot one.
(trilema) mike_c: what's the word the20year? havelock ipo moving along?
(trilema) mike_c: 4 hours from launch to failure? the cycle is quickening.
(trilema) mike_c: the20year: yeah, account cost with referral is 25 btc. listing fee idk.
(trilema) mike_c: to be clear, you do need an account to list.
(trilema) mike_c: you can certainly ask for anything.
(trilema) mike_c: don't know. probably negotiable :)
(trilema) mike_c: that's the fee to get account.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: i am now.
(trilema) mike_c: but action potential can't be responsible for responding to sound can it? that seems like a lot of brain function for a decapitated head
(trilema) mike_c: pankkake i find that hard to believe, but if true that is the creepiest thing ever.
(trilema) mike_c: what do i win for my search skills? :)
(trilema) mike_c: quick, bet no :)
(trilema) mike_c: maybe the gaydar is working. how revealing.
(trilema) mike_c: seriously. i want green.
(trilema) mike_c: pankkake why is my name pink?
(trilema) mike_c: i prefer >>>>> spammy! <<<<<<<<<
(trilema) mike_c: too late, spammer left.
(trilema) mike_c: it will improved soon. easy fix.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, it looks dumb.
(trilema) mike_c: efficient market pricing at its finest
(trilema) mike_c: yes, stocks that aren't tied to a fiat income stream.
(trilema) mike_c: because i don't think your roi will be better than just holding btc
(trilema) mike_c: good luck. i still don't think you should be raising btc, but you should be one of the better investments on hl :)
(trilema) mike_c: are you officially listing on hl?
(trilema) mike_c: nice, great bet.
(trilema) mike_c: i didn't want to force it though. start arbitrarily applying divs to certain months. because like, what about when a div is paid wrong? do I "fix" it? it does need to be more clear.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, will do. it's not super clear.
(trilema) mike_c: not much i find interesting on havelock.
(trilema) mike_c: btcalpha is mine, just launched recently. deals with things i find interesting in btc finance.
(trilema) mike_c: no. the stock price went up a lot last year, so the div. yield is pretty small.
(trilema) mike_c: 136 BTC in one month. probably bigger than yours.
(trilema) mike_c: and to jurov's point, it was actually 13.65 satoshi per share
(trilema) mike_c: last s.mpoe dividend was 13 satoshi per share. but it has 1bn shares :)
(trilema) mike_c: hm. ok, thanks. i'll make it more accurate.
(trilema) mike_c: i believe satoshi per share is accurate. at least, it is the same as on mpex
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: the table is aligned as designed. whether it's clear is another question. I went with showing the dividends in the month they were paid, which is generally the month after the profit was earned.
(trilema) mike_c: it's defined as 0 book value.
(trilema) mike_c: i better term might be "zero tangible assets company", but that is a mouthful.
(trilema) mike_c: "This accounting system is not intended for zero asset corporations"
(trilema) mike_c: ah, no, i didn't make it up
(trilema) mike_c: i possibly made up that term as a differentiator from mp's "nonzero asset corporation"
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell kakobrekla does this one work for you? http://www.btcalpha.com/feed/atom/
(trilema) mike_c: the feed?
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. nah. django is a great accelerator. lot of out-of-the-box stuff that works well. like that rss-generator.
(trilema) mike_c: omg. what a pain.
(trilema) mike_c: for what?
(trilema) mike_c: thanks duffer
(trilema) mike_c: mostly django
(trilema) mike_c: per request:
(trilema) mike_c: paywall for content. like tinypass.
(trilema) mike_c: tournament director can give you a time penalty, making you sit out for awhile and get blinded off.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, his nickname is the poker brat for a reason.
(trilema) mike_c: no rss feed yet. coming this week.
(trilema) mike_c: industrialists acquire wealth, they are not financiers.
(trilema) mike_c: no, he won at 24
(trilema) mike_c: he was youngest main event winner for a long time
(trilema) mike_c: although that is probably pigeon-holing it a bit.
(trilema) mike_c: so you are saying gambling=carpentry and finance=house building. in that case, i am interested in the carpentry aspect of finance.
(trilema) mike_c: like phil hellmuth
(trilema) mike_c: but not by definition. there are gamblers that are responsible with money.
(trilema) mike_c: my day job is engineering.
(trilema) mike_c: i have a serious interest in gambling. I include finance under that category.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks! it won't be long.
(trilema) mike_c: mine is probably limited by the fact that i don't intend to waste time dissecting the scams.
(trilema) mike_c: i have the numbers with those bets in as well. not as different as you would think. the sum of btc isn't that high.
(trilema) mike_c: i also ran the numbers bucketing by weight instead of by time, but it gets weird because bets can close early when there is still a high weight.
(trilema) mike_c: i didn't want it to throw off the results. what i wanted to see was whether other people are being attracted to bets early.
(trilema) mike_c: i was surprised by the results too
(trilema) mike_c: thanks mp!
(trilema) mike_c: hm. thanks, i'll investigate.
(trilema) mike_c: one thing i think it helps with is finding the most profitable strike given an 'expected price'.
(trilema) mike_c: ROI is different from profit, but yeah, that would be helpful.
(trilema) mike_c: as far as ROI you mean
(trilema) mike_c: put value = (strike/spot - 1). so when you sell, your profit is whatever you got for the sale minus that.
(trilema) mike_c: calculation: is.. strike / (1 + price) i think for value of put. lemme check
(trilema) mike_c: 100% means if you sell puts for 1btc you will keep it all
(trilema) mike_c: blog is just a piece, if you use mpex hopefully the tools are useful.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, thanks. i'll add one.
(trilema) mike_c: Garman-Kohlhagen
(trilema) mike_c: blog is a piece of it, yeah. inaugural post is up.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks. please send bug reports/suggestions.
(trilema) mike_c: not as much javascript, a blog post:
(trilema) mike_c: and an overview page for mpex stocks:
(trilema) mike_c: for those not afraid of a little javascript, a mpex option P/L tool:
(trilema) mike_c: new website announcement. assbot thinks its amazing.
(trilema) mike_c: isn't it a bit early to be wasted vex?
(trilema) mike_c: speaking of virtual reality, i tried an oculus rift for the first time recently. mindblowing.
(trilema) mike_c: quiet month i guess
(trilema) mike_c: is mpex taking wire transfers now? blockchain isn't showing any deposits since november.
(trilema) mike_c: for lolz:
(trilema) mike_c: selling them on ebay
(trilema) mike_c: they can keep the cheap kewpie doll ip.
(trilema) mike_c: invisible ip? what are they doing that is so cool?
(trilema) mike_c: it collects ip. hoarding would indicate it is creating ip and not sharing.
(trilema) mike_c: at least until it starts hoarding btc
(trilema) mike_c: that's why. gold is the only thing it hoards.
(trilema) mike_c: no way china would lend us gold
(trilema) mike_c: not having the stamps is interesting. yet another confirmation that the fed plays games with other countries deposits.
(trilema) mike_c: well, they do trip occasionally and then got shot right out on the track.
(trilema) mike_c: totally agreed! that's why horse races are more exciting than nascar.
(trilema) mike_c: that's a big problem with bitcoin. you can't roll up a fat stack with a rubber band and slap them on the table.
(trilema) mike_c: biz idea: "super-deep frozen storage".
(trilema) mike_c: whoa, they use "deep cold storage". that sounds better.
(trilema) mike_c: pure comedy:
(trilema) mike_c: no such thing as bad publicity. ask bitbet :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but that one at least had it right that he was going after coinye, not the "makers of bitcoin".
(trilema) mike_c: i heard a report that kanye is suing the "makers of bitcoin". i don't know why it still astounds me how stupid journalists are.
(trilema) mike_c: taking out that one hard drive that was holding the whole thing up? :D
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