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BingoBoingo: I got a quarter pound of Indian knock off Viagra in my bottom draw. Fuck them, I'm ready to fuck them, these pants are so tight.
BingoBoingo: I hate Reddit so much.
BingoBoingo: Fuckers make Thermos's shit site look good
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8663 @ 0.000844 = 7.3116 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: And I'm banned from /r/Justice
BingoBoingo: Father fucking cockass doesn't know that Blogs are like Books++
Duffer1: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00084398 = 1.899 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Seriously the BTC Reddit Circle jerk doesn't seem so bad by comparison
BingoBoingo: I mean their no social media site rule. What fucking websites can't qualify as social media.
asciilifeform: damn, the day people actually ask questions i know the answers to, i miss it all.
asciilifeform: compiler diddler is a dime a dozen: any EXE-infector on winblows technically qualifies.
asciilifeform: e.g. 'Virut'
BingoBoingo: Right now I am on an altcoin chat site offering 0.001 BTC to anyone who can name the Litecoin developer whi isn't Coblee and had 1/4 the BTC network hashpower at one point.
BingoBoingo: Noone guessed Artforz yet who had a GPU scrypt miner from the start.
BingoBoingo: 10 months ago that knowledge made a big fuss.
KRS1: A man's anus is a licked
ozbot: Eat Da Poo Poo AUTOTUNE REMIX - YouTube
KRS1: ..like ice cream.
BingoBoingo: Seriously how long will it take for one of these Coinyes to say Artforz? Does noone read history?
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KRS1: lol kids..
lippoper: yeah
lippoper: are you also up with your kids?
KRS1: eh
KRS1: hehe HI!
lippoper: much wow
KRS1: such fun
BingoBoingo: So... Moyer numbers are a thing now. Begin adjusting the way you price risk accordingly now, because spring training starts all too soon.
ozbot: The Moyer Number | Bingo Blog
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 94 @ 0.00305353 = 0.287 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10445 @ 0.0008453 = 8.8292 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00084666 = 10.6679 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26005 @ 0.00084494 = 21.9727 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9942 @ 0.00009319 = 0.9265 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1095 @ 0.0008435 = 0.9236 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.5449475 = 6.5394 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 292 @ 0.00042522 = 0.1242 BTC [+]
KRS1: The Feds Are Ready To Sell $25 Million of Bitcoin Seized From The Silk Road
KRS1: It’s likely that the U.S. Marshals will instead auction off the Bitcoins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0008489 = 13.158 BTC [+]
KRS1: Jeez, when the U.S. sleeps, bitcoin on freenode goes dead? A lot of channels are quiet.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22681 @ 0.00085013 = 19.2818 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54008989 = 1.0802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5016 @ 0.00084979 = 4.2625 BTC [-]
jurov: KRS1: mostly only muricans spend 10+ hours in work plus commute
jurov: to be able to linger here all the time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999997 = 0.2 BTC [+] {2}
betta: help
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 140 @ 0.04999997 = 7 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: yo mike_c you here ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://imgur.com/XOKeKA7 for the lolz :D
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 222 @ 0.00089127 = 0.1979 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 753 @ 0.00089007 = 0.6702 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00084842 = 9.1205 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 513 @ 0.00081201 = 0.4166 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: btw, if anyone's looking for a sure thing :
ozbot: BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014
mircea_popescu: it's a lock!
mircea_popescu: ;;google mircea popescu
gribble: Mircea Popescu (Mircea_Popescu) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu>; Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/>; MPEx - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx>
mircea_popescu: herp. google you got the top 3 backwards!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13547 @ 0.00084997 = 11.5145 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7303 @ 0.00085058 = 6.2118 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i am now.
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pankkake: BingoBoingo: reddit, like twitter, is good because you can ignore it altogether. the people that spend their time there have almost no influence outside of it
KRS1: Ahoj rumunčina milovníci a priatelia!!
pankkake: just delete your account. you will feel better
kakobrekla: ;;tslb
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mircea_popescu: KRS1 is that something about romanians ?
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KRS1: "Hello Romanian lovers and friends!" I'm just being stupid and playing with google translate..i was going to paste that in #bitcoin-romania but hardly anyone is in there. I found that chan listed on a wiki
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KRS1: I was using google translate last night with my spanish housekeeper...we never talked so much before.
KRS1: Hey there LorenzoMoney
KRS1: laughter and lel make only human
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.04999998 = 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5342 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4326 @ 0.00078757 = 3.407 BTC [-] {8}
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mircea_popescu: thinking the feds are investigating is like thinking alcoholics are drinking.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck else would they do ? skip down the street, go shopping for pretty bows, strip down to bras and panties for a tickle fight ?
TomServo: such imagery
mircea_popescu: much teenoge.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.545 = 1.09 BTC [+]
KRS1: haha
Duffer1: " Early on I made the strategic decision to make my exchange inaccessible to the offensively stupid poor. I do not mean the poor, poverty in itself is just a state, it means nothing. I do not mean the stupid, stupidity in itself is just a state, it means nothing. The offensively stupid poor are however not simply stupid and not simply poor. They are something like Inaba."
Duffer1: damn man that is harsh lol
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: is that true, that Remus Cernea will accept Bitcoins?
mircea_popescu: afaik he'd accept used towels and half eaten chips
mircea_popescu: possibly romania's most spineless attention seeking whore, that guy.
mircea_popescu: i hadn't, no.
ozbot: Mici si bere. Si circ. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: guy announced he's going to set himself on fire in front of some tv station
mircea_popescu: but get this : in protest of political gimmickry!
mircea_popescu: so people were like... um... ?
mircea_popescu: and then he set on fire... a... picture of himself printed on paper.
mircea_popescu: kinda the shortest political career in history, lasted all of thirty seconds.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00529998 = 0.212 BTC [+]
rattaTATatatat: obama on tv speaking on NSA
asciilifeform: and he spewed forth his placebo: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/ppd-28.pdf
Duffer1: i like that the Dishfire story hit the day before obama's speech
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rattaTATatatat: sounds mostly like obama is defending the status
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rattaTATatatat: he's mad at snowden
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rattaTATatatat: says some countries feigned surprise about snowden leaks
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14773 @ 0.00084784 = 12.5251 BTC [+]
nubbins`: so this happened earlier today: http://imgur.com/NfSJfko
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00085215 = 6.4763 BTC [+]
nubbins`: apparently three dozen was too many to carry in his current state of inxotication
nubbins`: FWIW those are empties
nubbins`: HAHAHA
nubbins`: jesus wept
mircea_popescu: jesus ver ?
nubbins`: i see what you did there!
nubbins`: ("Jesus wept" is a popular mild oath here)
nubbins`: two of those boxes and fifteen of the empties were left where they fell, :(
deadweasel: damn, he probably didn't have enough return change to get a 40
nubbins`: the third box was left smashed outside the store
deadweasel: he's going to have to settle for unhooking the freon fromt his window AC unit.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999998 = 0.15 BTC [+]
ozbot: 'Thank an Indian' shirt generates intense reaction - Saskatchewan - CBC News
nubbins`: "This is racism," she said. "Canadians are really getting sick of the double-standard. No white kid could walk into a school with a shirt that says that in reverse."
nubbins`: I'm trying to imagine a white kid wearing a shirt that says "Got land? Thank whitey"
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deadweasel: nubbins`: don't imagine it, create it, send it to me, I"ll send you pics of me in public
ll: more like "Got Smallpox? Thank whitey"
deadweasel: They're both good!
deadweasel: and nobody has smallpox anymore
deadweasel: they all died, just in a lab now, afaik
deadweasel: so nobody would thank me
ll: ...declared eradicated in 2011 :/
ll: mmm sry 1979
deadweasel: as long as it's in a lab, I wouldn't call it eradicated..
deadweasel: on ice maybe
thestringpuller: nubbins`: can we talk?
nubbins`: always!
benkay: asciilifeform: would love to hear your thoughts on flaws and such in cjdns: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
KRS1: whats to stop me from spoofing an address?
jurov: KRS1 but that was Slovak language... wtf?
jurov: don't tell me you're in fact around here, too
KRS1: lol no, but i am suprised there are that many in that part of the world
KRS1: i was in a humerous mood earlier..
KRS1: it finally went below 73 degrees fahrenheit here and I was all energiezed
nubbins`: lovely
nubbins`: it was 14c here today
KRS1: nubbins..
KRS1: lol
nubbins`: almost all of the snow has melted
KRS1: you get +1 for Fireball
KRS1: The Canadian Cinnamon Whiskey
nubbins`: only in your books ;)
KRS1: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00529998 = 0.1855 BTC [+]
nubbins`: try to track down some iceberg vodka
KRS1: haha ok ill letcha know
KRS1: I'm off to the liquor store now for more smokes and more cinnamon whiskey
KRS1: Its not like cinnamon schnapps, which is oily and thick..this is nice and smooth..can sip it for hours.
nubbins`: cool
nubbins`: are you a beer drinker at all?
KRS1: yes but only beer, mainly domestic like Bud or Miller. If I go foreign its either Heineken or Becks..but only beer, no lager or that thick crap the Brits drink.
nubbins`: i can't get into porters or stouts
nubbins`: do enjoy the scattered pint of ale
KRS1: bbiaf liquor store run
nubbins`: nah, join us
KRS1: outta smokes :O
nubbins`: past year or two, i've been drinking wheat beers almost exclusively
nubbins`: krombacher wiezen being the current favourite
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Neil: .d
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benkay: beers make my tummy sad
asciilifeform: benkay: admittedly i only read the intro, but i see nothing about counter-MITM strategy.
asciilifeform: overall, crypto tastes best when used deliberately, by human trigger, rather than an invisible protocol layer.
KRS1: right..IP is just another layer of the osi model..while this DNS solution is a nice one, probably pretty secure, its not an end-all solution for network security.
KRS1: I like how cryptography is a part of it, but imo still subject to the classic weak points.
diametric: i'm still mad i spent all that time learning the OSI model and its not even used really.
deadweasel: omg corporate fucking rage
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deadweasel: if these people have another fucking opinion, I'm going to tweak their application so that every pet who uses these labs will die.
deadweasel: poor little pets don't deserve it
deadweasel: but i want to kill something
deadweasel: someone
deadweasel: death to corporate middle management!~
nubbins`: better get this day started
nubbins`: peace
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KRS1: corporate middle management typically are Asperger at best.
KRS1: Many claim to understand I.T.
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KRS1: This typically comes with delusional behavior accompanied by marked characteristic megalomaniac traits.
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pankkake: "Cognitive is not a real company."
Apocalyptic: dat statement
Apocalyptic: mind-blowing
Namworld: What statement?
Apocalyptic: <pankkake> "Cognitive is not a real company."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00534795 = 0.1016 BTC [+]
pankkake: maybe he meant virtual; but that's not how I read it first
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02629999 = 0.1052 BTC [+]
KRS1: deadweasel hang in there, you arent the only one dealing with mental retardation in suits and ties
deadweasel: thanks KRS1, I've been writing rae emails for 2 hours and deleting them.
deadweasel: rage*
deadweasel: i'm rage crashing now
KRS1: oh shit careful
KRS1: i know that feeling very well..its almost therapeudic
KRS1: my last job i had to stop caring..after a wihle it was like a load of bricks was lifted off me..the problems that i was solving then became quite apparent.
KRS1: email is a fucked up thing once you hit send there is little you can do =/
KRS1: some emails i was glad i sent and turned out okay..others..well people dont want to be told what they dont want to hear
deadweasel: My boss pulls me aside, for the first feedback whatsoever in 1.75 years, tells me his boss asked about my 'absence' which is less than any other employee on my team... I just sit in front of his office.
deadweasel: also, the family men are jealous of my single freedom.
deadweasel: motherfuckers
KRS1: yes that happens
Apocalyptic: dem haters
deadweasel: i delete all rage emails these days.
KRS1: seems like they have to come up with something..just for the derp of it..i came to realize my bosses had bosses too and shit goes downhill
deadweasel: didn't use to... my father doesnt talk to me much anymore.
deadweasel: asshole
the20year: wonder how long it took for him to kill his victim
the20year: oops
deadweasel: i haven't done it yet
deadweasel: *YET*
KRS1: its not the technology thats hard, its the people
KRS1: my last I.T. position was a political nightmare
deadweasel: IT is a nightmare altogether.
KRS1: it can be with the wrong company
KRS1: but ya takes effort..gotta always stay on top of things..knowledge..but thats with any kind of knowledge job.
deadweasel: So yeah, I'm supposed to now manage the perceptions of his boss and two developers who stay at work long time cos they hate their families
deadweasel: FUCK THEM IN THE FUCKING EARHOLE
KRS1: www.dice.com
KRS1: Be happy..move.
deadweasel: i'm at the best company in the state.
KRS1: One thing I hate about IT is the jobs dont last long..4-6 yrs was all I could get tops..otherwise its been 1-3 yrs and some consulting gigs that payed well
deadweasel: good money, I'm just addicted to rageahol
KRS1: haha that will catch up to you one day..not good for the health
deadweasel: no, today is the most rage in upwards of 3 years, i have headache whole 9 yards, usually i'm very accepting
KRS1: I'm in south florida..IT sucks here..I figure if I can make it here I can make it anywhere. Pay is about the same as Atlanta
deadweasel: my ex is moving there to improve the lives of chimpanzees
deadweasel: real chimpanzees, not floridians
KRS1: usually...its the fucken people that make the job sux.
KRS1: oh lol
deadweasel: it is always the people
KRS1: If she's single, someone..somewhere...is tired of her shit.
deadweasel: and my raction to them
deadweasel: haha, she's a fucking angel, I just moved on.
KRS1: good deal..imo lifes too short to be with one, I've had a blast being a bachelor
KRS1: most american women are..fucked in the head.
deadweasel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
deadweasel: best to love'em and leave'em
KRS1: U can usually spot the ones with good upbringing..usually the parents are still together.
deadweasel: find an exotic one if you can, from some 3rd world country
KRS1: Cuban girls are great
deadweasel: i bet! would love ot find out
KRS1: Hard working and devoted..but dont fuck em over..they will love you forever but literally kill you if you cheat.
KRS1: and I mean psycho bitch kill you with a knife in the heart just after you wake up on some idle tuesday at 4am
deadweasel: literally
deadweasel: i've had the cops come before
deadweasel: wathc out for the viking blondes too
KRS1: love the viking blondes
KRS1: FUCKING LOVE THEM
benkay: hey what cheapo laptop do i want to buy for dual-booting windows and nixen?
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twizt: lol
the20year: Check walmart
the20year: Pretty disappointed, had to pass up on a really nice foreclosure locally. 5br 2ba , 2.35ac, 2000sf, 3-4 car garage, $42.5k
diametric: KRS1: so did the vikings, thats why they killed the rest.
KRS1: holy shit the20yearwhat kind of price is that..cant be in the US
deadweasel: oh yeah it cn
deadweasel: detroit
deadweasel: chicago
deadweasel: you can get 10k houses
deadweasel: in shithole hoods
KRS1: best I found was $220 here in south florida for 3800 sqft 4 br
the20year: *Ohio
the20year: Rural area
KRS1: no shit
KRS1: south florida is overpriced
the20year: Where our company is out of (Buying houses and rehabbing them)
KRS1: thats bankroll..teh flip
the20year: Depends all on where you look, there are still deals in Miami and Orlando
KRS1: I'm not far from snobs ville Boca Raton
KRS1: big money
the20year: There's a girl in my town who sells a few dozen condos in orlando a year running $25k/ea
the20year: yeah, in boca, you won't find anything cheap
KRS1: i
the20year: ohio on the otherhand......we've lost most of our younger risk-takers, so the real estate market is ripe for the picking
KRS1: i'm trying to get a place near where i live (in the country past the suburbs) 3800-4000sq fq for low to mid $200K-$250K on 1-2 acres
the20year: Not bad
KRS1: its doable but getting harder to find
KRS1: cant find acreage anymore here
the20year: If I wanted something big, there's a subdivison where the owner went bankrupt, every so often you can get 6k+ finished for under $175k
KRS1: hole
KRS1: ly
KRS1: shit
the20year: 3car garage
the20year: leme see if I cna find the MLS sheet from the one i inspected
KRS1: whats nearest city?
the20year: Granite wet bar plus a walk in sauna room
KRS1: lies!
KRS1: any land?
the20year: If you google commercial point ohio that'll put you darn close
the20year: it was just like a 3/rd of an acre
KRS1: not much in ohio
KRS1: for IT
KRS1: heard horror stories about trying to make a living there
the20year: Depends on the neighborhood
KRS1: im sure its a great place to retire
KRS1: looks nice
the20year: Not a bad area, my grandma has a farm about 5mi south of hte town
KRS1: suburban Atlanta is real nice too
KRS1: I like the brick homes
the20year: atlanta is huge, columbus is much smaller
the20year: easy competetion too with real estate
KRS1: are u looking to buy?
KRS1: or is that your biz?
the20year: Atlanta? Not realy, but i've got a guy I want to make a franchise partner
the20year: At some point I want to franchise rental/rehab startups
KRS1: this is the time to do that!
the20year: Just waiting on re-listing
KRS1: im not keen on owning real estate long term though..not confident enough in it..many sectors of our economy are not doing well and I think agricultural land is one
KRS1: for an investment for instance
the20year: Real estate is pretty localized, I want to diversify via the franchise method, i've got some guys outside of the US i think I can work with that would do quite well in their localities
KRS1: no better time than now to flip imo
KRS1: ya franchising will get you the funding to do a lot and get you going..smart.
the20year: Real estate is in a stealth mode right now, thankfully the big guys aren't too involved
KRS1: ya not sure what to make of that
the20year: i figure I have 4-5 years before it's hot again, at that time we can re-position
KRS1: probably because credit is hard to get
the20year: yeah
the20year: thus why we're issuing more shares...banks aren't wanting to deal with us
KRS1: i gotta get in before the intrest rates go up
the20year: I'm willing to pay 5%-6% and still can't get a loan
KRS1: i have a phenominal credit score and i'm still afraid of being accepted
KRS1: 5%-6% and cant get a loan damn
the20year: you likely could, rentals can be another ball game, i'm getting denied based on credit + income
KRS1: wtf do they want? 50% down?
the20year: No clue, we're offering 30%
KRS1: thats historically plenty
the20year: Yeah
KRS1: jumbo loans or something?
the20year: Nah , all I asked for was $100k on $170k of property
KRS1: oh give me a break
the20year: Maybe they jsut don't like me, or the business
KRS1: you are almost at the point to look for private funding
the20year: We are/have, the private guys want 8%+
KRS1: maybe its the real estate economy
KRS1: banks took a beating in RE
the20year: The other options have been issuign a private bond at 5.5% , or just growing bigger, than looking for a large portfolio instituion
the20year: Yeah
KRS1: I have a guy who is a genius at this shit lmk if you want his # he has done shit for me that i thought was both illegal and impossible..including buying tradelines
the20year: I would list on mpex, but the shareholders won't sign off due to fees
the20year: Sure
the20year: he do email?
Apocalyptic: the20year, they can via coinbr
KRS1: totally
the20year: I know, but they didn't want the company to foot the listing bill
KRS1: the shit this guy has done i think he's even more kickass than a lawyer f'n amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
KRS1: lol
the20year: i like our lawyer
the20year: but, we're in a good place, low vacancy rates, and houses are nothing
the20year: i've got like 14 candidates right now
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1217 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.4833% in 6d 23h 18m 16s
the20year: listing fee is 30btc for mpex, right mircea_popescu?
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 2000 @ 0.00162868 = 3.2574 BTC [-] {2}
TomServo: the20year: or 25 with a referral, last I heard.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0262 = 0.1834 BTC [-]
mike_c: that's the fee to get account.
the20year: what is it for issuers?
mike_c: don't know. probably negotiable :)
the20year: Wish i could just ask for mircea to take a cut off a 2nd round of capital raising
KRS1: NO SOUP FOR YOU!
mike_c: you can certainly ask for anything.
mike_c: to be clear, you do need an account to list.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0262 = 0.3406 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 356 @ 0.00042034 = 0.1496 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00534795 = 0.123 BTC [+]
the20year: And the account cost is 25btc?
Duffer1: i thought you were moving forward with havelock listing
the20year: We are, but we still can list other places too
Duffer1: i see i see
the20year: the migration will take place to HL
the20year: i'm considering it due to the volumes i see on HL Vs mpex, the volumes on mpex seem fantastic
Duffer1: i can see justification for 30btc for a mpex user account
Duffer1: but i can see problems with issuers needing similar amounts
Duffer1: 30btc is no small amount of capital to a business with fiat exposure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41009 @ 0.00085181 = 34.9319 BTC [-] {3}
the20year: correct, and thus why the s hareholders rejected the motion initially, but i'm now free to try to be a little more creative
mike_c: the20year: yeah, account cost with referral is 25 btc. listing fee idk.
KRS1: the Wall St. Journal will soon be doing an article on the angel investment made to bitcoin startups.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 635 @ 0.00047991 = 0.3047 BTC [+] {5}
the20year: not surprised
the20year: won't be long before they're doing articles on angel startups founded by bitcoin
the20year: Gonna go look at a house tomorrow, hoping to pick it up under $10k
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.005348 = 0.1123 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.005348 = 0.2834 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: $10k is close to the price per square meter around here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00084936 = 16.4351 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00084828 = 11.1973 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1504 @ 0.00009102 = 0.1369 BTC [-]
ozbot: closed
mircea_popescu: now i've seen everything o.O
mike_c: 4 hours from launch to failure? the cycle is quickening.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16930 @ 0.00084827 = 14.3612 BTC [-]
Duffer1: someone took mpoe-prs advice before they lost their ass
Duffer1: nice ^.^
mircea_popescu: it may be a first actually.
jborkl: us marshall service going to auction off the SR bitcoins soon
jborkl: can I pay with Paypal? heh
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406712.msg4539197#msg4539197 << anyone actually see a purpose to this other than stealing people's coins ?
ozbot: WalletBuddy 1.10 Released
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've never used that site. Bitbet came around roughly the same time I started using coin.
mircea_popescu: o for some reason i thought you had an acct
mircea_popescu: well... does anyone here have a betsofbitco.in account can verify if they split or not yet ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.55999599 = 2.8 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02629999 = 0.1052 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00512285 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 485 @ 0.00080242 = 0.3892 BTC [-] {5}
the20year: this is a 2 bedroom house with a 2 car garage and a basement
ozbot: Blanket Of Snow Creates Illusion That Town Not A Total Shithole | Video | The Onion - America's Fine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.0000942 = 0.2826 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0263 = 0.1315 BTC [+]
Duffer1: thought you might like that 20 :P
the20year: Thankfully we're not Detroit, or cleveland for that matter
KRS1: damn i love this stuff..bought another bottle
kakobrekla: was dat
kakobrekla: whiskey for kids?
KRS1: i guess
KRS1: its not like schnapps or anything thick..real smooth
kakobrekla: speaking of drinks, i just gave away a bottle of www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/yamazaki-12-year-old-whisky/?srh=1
MCM-Mike: never tried Yamazaki, will give it a try . did you give it away because you didnt like it or as a gift ? :)
kakobrekla: i dont drink normally, i buy this shit for gifts.
kakobrekla: i have no idea if its any good
kakobrekla: but whats neat is they have samples
kakobrekla: so you can try it before you buy it
MCM-Mike: ok :) let see if they shipp to ger
kakobrekla: they do
kakobrekla: not my fault if you dont like it :)
MCM-Mike: np, looks fancy will tell you how I liked it
kakobrekla: well look around
kakobrekla: maybe you will see something that looks better to you.
kakobrekla: i just wanted something that is not easy to get.
MCM-Mike: saw some single malts which I liked on the page
kakobrekla: tastings sets prooved to be a nice new years gift.
assbot: 123!
kakobrekla: 123 ball!
mircea_popescu: lol assbot got excited
Diablo-D3: I'd impale her on my dick, if you know what I mean
kakobrekla: dont you have DMC t o run
mircea_popescu: whoa did hashpower take a slap or what.
mircea_popescu: barely 13 atm.
asciilifeform: batch of boobietrapped asics quit?
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1202 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.5839% in 6d 20h 45m 44s
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, but it shed about 30% over the past 6-10 hours
asciilifeform: or they're changing a transformer at ft. meade.
mircea_popescu: the us isn't doing 30% by any means. like 8.
asciilifeform: USS Satoshi, atomic mining ship (free cooling!) ran aground and bent its dish.
KRS1: .bait
KRS1: look at all that genetalia..not bad looking but she got baloney for days.
mircea_popescu: girl knows what she wants and how to get it.
KRS1: love how nobody notices the completely naked bitch..must be somewhere in Europe.
KRS1: all tha roast beef
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14330 @ 0.00084845 = 12.1583 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.545 = 1.09 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: how much electric power do the atomic subs have anyway ? is it 1mw ?
asciilifeform: up to 500mw, i think
mircea_popescu: wouldn't do too much hashing.
mircea_popescu: wait, 500mw ?!
mircea_popescu: that seems excessive
kakobrekla: can you get one?
asciilifeform: one source
ozbot: Nuclear-Powered Ships | Nuclear Submarines
asciilifeform: "The largest submarines are the 26,500 tonne (34,000 t submerged) Russian Typhoon-class, powered by twin 190 MWt PWR reactors..."
kakobrekla: the floating power station kicks in only 70mw
mircea_popescu: but that's the nominal thermal output of the reactor or actual useful electricity ?
kakobrekla: 70mw electricity
kakobrekla: 300mw heat
asciilifeform: "... the Los Angeles class submarines formed the backbone of the US SSN (attack) fleet, and 62 were built. They are 6900 dwt submerged, and have a 165 MW GE S6G reactor driving two 26 MW steam turbines."
mircea_popescu: ya but that's steam
asciilifeform: so yes, efficiency is not 100 %.
asciilifeform: to no one's great surprise.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess a nuclear sub could actually hash pretty well.
asciilifeform: great place to do it, too
asciilifeform: sea water cooling
asciilifeform: want bandwidth? tap a fiber...
kakobrekla: chip density might be a problem
mircea_popescu: lol the cooling miners part is the least of their problems
mircea_popescu: they gotta cool the core anyway
kakobrekla: you are left with bunch of unused elect
asciilifeform: propulsion screw will readily eat the remainder.
kakobrekla: oh yeah, that thingy.
mircea_popescu: it boggles my mind that they can somehow put 1mw through a propeller
mircea_popescu: da fuck they're made out of, adamantium ?
kakobrekla: unobtanium
jurov: large wind turbines have 1MW too
asciilifeform: 1) there can be >1 prop 2) you can get marine diesels, 100,000 horse.
jurov: it's doable
asciilifeform: pistons as wide as a man is tall
mircea_popescu: that looks like a great orgy apparatus
Duffer1: holy crankshaft batman
kakobrekla: and the reach of these diesel subs?
kakobrekla: 20miles?
Duffer1: hehe
mircea_popescu: prolly 50-100-200 knots
KRS1: dat crankshaft
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1200 @ 0.00174483 = 2.0938 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so nice to see the euro priced as a few bitcents
mircea_popescu: i dunno why everyone keeps pricing bitcoin in fiats rather than the fiats in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: it's quite obvious which is the correct way.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1200 @ 0.00174483 = 2.0938 BTC [+]
KRS1: heh
pankkake: coinion did it
KRS1: <Power_Word> will anybody here pay BTC?
KRS1: <Power_Word> I will cut my chest
KRS1: <Power_Word> I need BTC, I'll cut myself for btc
KRS1: Darwin hasn't caught up to this one yet.
kakobrekla: ask how much for a buttcoin
pankkake: what I wonder is why people aren't doing it for euros already
pankkake: I mean fiat
kakobrekla: they are just not on irc.
KRS1: <KRS1> Power_Word: What would you do for a buttcoin? <Power_Word> I'd cut ur name in my chest
KRS1: dafuq?
KRS1: <KRS1> Power_Word: what would you do for .25 BTC? <Power_Word> .25 <Power_Word> I'd cut whatever you want
KRS1: now hes begging
kakobrekla: seems like he will cut in any case
kakobrekla: he can pay us to watch it.
KRS1: yea im sure..ppl do that all the time like on omeagle
kakobrekla: anyway nuff of this, go to -otc for more.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 200 @ 0.00174483 = 0.349 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04870001 = 0.1461 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: rather check up upon bit billions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0487 = 0.1948 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.0016245 / 0.00169433 / 0.00174483 (4600 shares, 7.79 BTC), 7D: 0.0016245 / 0.00169433 / 0.00174483 (4600 shares, 7.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0016245 / 0.00188399 / 0.00333333 (10501 shares, 19.78 BTC)
mircea_popescu: starting to move a little i guess.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1000 @ 0.00174483 = 1.7448 BTC [+]
KRS1: Nom nom nom
KRS1: perfect..thats my dream girl
pankkake: pig 'n whistle restaurant?
KRS1: Have to feed her first.
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 885.005, Best ask: 892.9, Bid-ask spread: 7.89500, Last trade: 892.9, 24 hour volume: 9854.40663961, 24 hour low: 867.43, 24 hour high: 930.0, 24 hour vwap: 894.86934
pankkake: she certainly needs feeding
KRS1: a tad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56948997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13308 @ 0.00085035 = 11.3165 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00084798 = 25.1002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 2250 @ 0.00195527 = 4.3994 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00084798 = 13.6525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 200 @ 0.0019975 = 0.3995 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.0019975
gribble: 500.625782228
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00175
gribble: 571.428571429
jurov: so bearish
KRS1: why are markets this way? because it rose up so quick?
KRS1: seems there has been good news lately..idk
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 906.625 USD = 669.7238875 eur
jurov: ;;ticker --last --currency eur --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCEUR last: 658.33, vol: 1386.72019629 | Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 592.444787, vol: 16631.24159665 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 597.99996, vol: 398.29529 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 590.96, vol: 163.33309995 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 599.238717, vol: 4465.72000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 597.811355208
KRS1: i dont think there is anything to blame for the bearish markets..perhaps people are just wanting to sell after the recent run up.
jurov: it's going for a week already
mircea_popescu: maybe btc is actually pricing the eur/usd pair better than the fiat markets ?
mircea_popescu: ie, not bearish on btc, bullish on eur ?
KRS1: interesting..hmm.
kakobrekla: the differences there are nothing compared to btc
kakobrekla: volatility to be exact
mircea_popescu: sure, but the thing is... a triangle is a triangle. you never know which si the wrong side.
kakobrekla: if you have a big exposure to btc you can not possibly whine about a tiny eur usd difference
KRS1: nov btc was around $500 this is probably just a correction
kakobrekla: it would make sense to make btc of eurusd like panacea does
kakobrekla: but i do not think this is the case here
ozbot: The Feds Are Ready To Sell $25 Million of Bitcoin Seized From The Silk Road - Forbes
kakobrekla: those will be auctioned off
kakobrekla: i bet there are buyers waiting.
pankkake: buyers that might buy less from the usual exchanges, then
pizzaman1337: it seems to be scaring people at least
kakobrekla: i doubt it
kakobrekla: this is not for regular folks
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> this is not for regular folks // +1
jurov: no i think it will be buyers who don't like these play exchanges
jurov: banksters must be pretty scared of how gox and their ilk handles stuff
pankkake: that's understandable, but I would be surprised if it had no influence
Apocalyptic: may be a good way for institutional players to get some coins without wreaking the exchange price
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you can participate in a public auction, sure, why not
pankkake: doing it outside of exchanges is pretty much the only way
pankkake: but they might be buying already; maybe they buy from bitpay or stuff?
KRS1: oh wow ebay allowing virt currency sales/trading by feb.
pankkake: reliable source?
KRS1: is coindesk reliable?
kakobrekla: even if its public, regular folks dont buy such quantities of coin at once
KRS1: idk
pankkake: lol, so they are adding a category
KRS1: its certainly not bad news
mircea_popescu: coindesk is not very reliable, but then again ebay is in fact going to bow to virtuals.
pankkake: nothing really changing from what is already there really
pankkake: at least it means they won't ban it
KRS1: perhaps more people will at least be exposed to it if they havent already.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 352 @ 0.0008899 = 0.3132 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i think by now pretty much anyone alive has been so exposed.
mircea_popescu: the btc rift guild is like 500 people strong, maybe half actually came from trilema, the rest just, randomly, from in game
mircea_popescu: but anyone i ever talked to knows what btc is
pankkake: gamers know what is bitcoin
pankkake: no real surprise
pankkake: ebay is a slow, bulky, money hungry monster. don't think they'll have bitcoin as a payment anytime soon
mircea_popescu: thge funny think is that we did have the opportunity to crush ebay
mircea_popescu: except we didn't have the talent to do it
mircea_popescu: and so... it survives.
pankkake: did?
mircea_popescu: well, the window is closing.
pankkake: why? :(
mircea_popescu: well that's what windows do lol
pankkake: so it's closing because it's closing
pankkake: ebay is good because you are pretty sure you can sell fast at a good price
kakobrekla: not, its closing because its a window.
pankkake: why is it a window?
pankkake: but what if it was painless to list on both?
mircea_popescu: pankkake well, because time is going by
pankkake: that's not very helpful
pankkake: "Havelock is where the future of bitcoin is being made"
jurov: bitmit was something, but was relentlessly driven to ground
jurov: and no significant contender appeared
pankkake: yet!
kakobrekla: bitmit wasnt something.
pankkake: it was mostly left to rot
ozbot: NSA-O-Matic
mircea_popescu: jurov actually the dread pirate guy was a worse threat.
mircea_popescu: pankkake you gotta be kidding me ? what's that ?
kakobrekla: mp's first time on the internet.
kakobrekla: refresh taht page a couple of times.
kakobrekla: randomized bullshit-
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i meant the havelock quote.
kakobrekla: nvm then
mircea_popescu: which sounded to me like an incredibly lame mp-wannabe moment.
ozbot: Cryptostocks Turnaround
mircea_popescu: most airplanes crashing into the ground spin all the way there.
kakobrekla: gosh i dont remember last time i played sturmikov
kakobrekla: must be years.
mircea_popescu: f-19 ftw!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55988799 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: its so long i spelled it wrong.
mircea_popescu: ;;google f-19 micropose
gribble: F-19 Stealth Fighter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter>; F 19 Stealth Fighter MICROPROSE - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mErEdWCSZtY>; Microprose F19 Stealth Fighter, DOS - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCvSyJaYbc>
kakobrekla: ;;google il2 sturmovik
gribble: IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad: <http://il2sturmovik.com/>; IL-2 Sturmovik (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik_(video_game)>; Ilyushin Il-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-2>
kakobrekla: the shit.
KRS1: ah the good ole days
asciilifeform: played that as a boy
asciilifeform: someone remembers!
mircea_popescu: the day my colonel died...
mircea_popescu: was such a sad, sad day.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00081495 = 0.815 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00084699 = 23.1652 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1174 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.5075% in 6d 17h 23m 59s
the20year2: cost to issue a stock on mpex if eligible is 25-30btc, right mircea?
mircea_popescu: you need an account in the first place. other than that, the listing fees are negotiated as part of the listing process.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00084642 = 18.8752 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00534976 = 0.2407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48363 @ 0.00085 = 41.1086 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30637 @ 0.00085157 = 26.0896 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5595 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00085172 = 26.8292 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62236 @ 0.0008528 = 53.0749 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00084952 = 16.5232 BTC [-]
ozbot: 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1162 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.5418% in 6d 15h 36m 20s
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28839 @ 0.0008488 = 24.4785 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00085338 = 4.8216 BTC [+] {3}
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