(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: negative space is not the very same as unknown or even unknown unknowns (so better & rather than /), see the discussion there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what research did you do for the WoT?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you realise at writing stage that something is missing then yes, you have no choice than to go back and dig, what can you do; but that is rather poor initial plan & research there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: how do you research a topic and when do you decide you researched it enough?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, so I chose it well; precisely.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: say I ask you to write next week an article on Aspasia of Miletus; are you going to just write what you already know? (how much do you know?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, by the end of it, you'll have it (hopefully) all in head but ..not always at the start too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and whether you have enough or not depends on how well it covers all the aspects or how many it basically leaves hanging/not even spotted.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you start ofc with what you have but that's a starting point
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it might not be *all* in head yet and then yes, you find you'll need to read more before you can write about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you try to write solely from within your head, no wonder you find it hard on non-tech: you probably don't have the same depth that you simply get by direct practice on the tech.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you need to actually look at the topic and start cutting out the scope as it were; cutting it out as neatly as possible out of the whole world with which it is connected, of course.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically your process there - whether knowingly or not - focuses on your thoughts, not on the topic.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: coherence you might even get in principle (you say you do look for the sequence so probably with enough iterations you can get there) but what you can't get at all with that approach are those pesky parts that you might not yet know about the topic to start with; and this can easily feed into your "sweat blood to write" really because if you don't yet know enough, you are quite stuck.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: do you see any problem there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how do you plan/choose what should go in an article?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: yes and with reference(s), ofc; the point is not about claiming something you don't know; the point is about giving a round account of whatever issue you choose to talk about; reader can't read your mind, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yeah, I'm messing up your deadline :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the more appropriate title there would also be "my present thinking on the potential-maybe-perhaps? role the WoT might (one-day-if-it-aint-borked-really) play (but I won't stake my word on it either way!!)"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thanks for testing the IP.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: there would be quite a few things to say even when reading both parts of the WoT articles together but at the very least, you can't just plonk at the end something like if this works and then leave it at that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: carrying over from #t : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951634
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you considered it done anyway, what was there to load, ofc.
(trilema) diana_coman: I've moved ossasepia.com to 85.25.134.66 where I hope it will stay for longer really; please update hosts files accordingly and sorry for the repeated moves; I've updated DNS records too but those might take a while, as they do.
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: no; I did get though an opteron.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re WoT series, it doesn't quite come together and I suspect you didn't really have a very clear idea as to what you wanted to say overall either; or did you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and lolz @ uncategorized; that does say something too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: for http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2019/the-road-to-ossasepia-part-6/ you say there yourself that there was more you should be saying, don't you>
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: thanks; I'll get to it by the end of this week for sure (most likely even earlier).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: now that's interesting; would you kindly link me to last article of each series, maybe I missed it somehow?
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: asciilifeform: it doesn't have to be in lieu of coin really; just invoice me anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: it worked fine for me for 6 years already, honestly
(asciilifeform) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/asciilifeform/2019-11-17#1002484 - I will make one space more empty on that train so that nobody else loses out; thank you asciilifeform for the service, I don't have any complaints with it really and I would still prefer to pay for this month that I used it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well,atm it's.. more than 1 UPS but anyways
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: APC
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: look here: http://younghands.club/2019/11/04/jfw-plan-week-of-nov-4-2019/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: iirc you still had some unfinished, didn't you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz; had the battery-beeps-at-2am only the other day, ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ^
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I gather that the rest of the week's articles will not be still-wallet though, correct?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: works, thanks.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, and an estimate for the estimates :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: do say what you plan to do next, preferably without me asking for each and every step, all right?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: works.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, you can push them to the front of the queue if you prefer, that much is fine.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you will not push the backup scripts anywhere.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so based on this revised plan for the wallet, what's your estimated time required?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: yes, do that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you need to figure out a full list preferably before you go to the hardware store, no? and also, there are some basic things (such as a good set of screwdrivers, yes!) that you should have in the house ANYWAY.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so check again first.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that's the idea, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: did you check again?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it's up to you really but don't you think it belongs there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what's the status re cables and other needed small parts?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you should add the log discussion of yest as comment to yesterday's post.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: if I read the latest article correctly, you looked in more detail at those tasks and mainly found that some are actually done, some should not take too long and a few more are not all that clear but have to be done; is this it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what, are samsung ssds not found in cr ??
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, meant to add that if ssd then Samsung.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: those "savings" of yours belong in that pile of stupid to burn.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: re hdd atm go with ssd, you are probably better off getting used to them anyway; for that matter, why exactly did you not want that Kingston ssd?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so it should work; and if it doesn't you certainly have something interesting to write about if the actual spec is false.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then what was your question again?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: asciilifeform: I can believe. I guess at some point I'll finally move on with the times on this too or something, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: and you know, that gigabyte website actually has categories, supported sockets etc; it's made to be useful, just use it and stop just looking around maybe someone else did all the thinking for you already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: SSD* ofc, no idea why I keep writing it as SDD.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the SPEC! that is the reference, not whatever someone you don't know wrote on a website, gah.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: for btc node certainly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: at any rate, there's nothing wrong with either option sdd or sata really, just know what you choose and why
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, I use them in servers, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: while I fully agree that using SDD gives a speed boost, tbh I never bothered with them on my desktops really, not like I ever *needed* that boost.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: also, I think you got confused re drives or it reads like that atm on your blog: you seem to have swapped a Kingston SDD for a SATA (mine is SATA, not SDD)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is your cpu in the list of supported cpus for that motherboard or not? it should be in the specs there, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it's not going to make any difference; call them since it's good for your Spanish practice but other than that, it doesn't matter.
(trilema) diana_coman: lol, the phone users.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: did you get that deedbot/invoice problem sorted?
(trinque) diana_coman: thank you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you can always aim wget and mirror any site for that matter, not much of a script to write as such; but yes, do backup your yh posts for sure; and as a rule, you *always* do your own backups, no matter what others might or might not be doing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good; I'll be back tomorrow.
(trinque) diana_coman: trinque: mean to clarify also why this wallet now: jfw is meant to finish the work on it this December (as they committed to delivering it to their clients) and after that he'll be available for the work on tmsr os as discussed in #t.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: anything else or all set for now?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so join #trinque anyway, I asked him in chan there and see.
(trinque) diana_coman: trinque: would you be available to provide some help/answers re trb and transactions for jfw? he's working on a bitcoin wallet and he has some familiarity with trb codebase but he might still need some help
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll ask him in his chan too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: trinque, if he is available.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you're both welcome.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: if you can spell them better, do it at least directly when talking to him, certainly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: timing is not the best for sure, yes; as mentioned earlier, I'd rather think it's fastest if you coordinate on this between the two of you and get it done but if there's any help you think I can provide, just ask/speak up.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: even if you need to discuss further between the two of you, not necessarily right now.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: do you have some clear(er) idea as to what would be absolutely crucial from his tasks there? ie can you give him any help prioritizing stuff in there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, not all of the S.MG board meetings are public and not all documents can be public either; that's fine; but look at the pile that is anyway public and realise that there is even more behind it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you know, that summary I linked only the other day for a different reason & all the graphics in eulora series and so on.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: when I say I claim no management expertise I mean it in a very practical term: I have much more experience with (and frankly, preference for) the tech role; it doesn't mean though that I have no idea whatsoever of anything that management does (though I am sure I don't know *all* there is to do there, either).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: dorion you know, those s.mg board discussions in public in #t were not just for MP's and my convenience or something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: well yes; you need to tell him what the business needs and to communicate as clearly as possible what the priorities are + ask for information/details when/as you require them (and preferably with reasonable time in advance too, obv); he needs to provide you with clear, useful and timely updates on the work and with notice (preferably with enough time in advance) of forks int the road/the need for decisions.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so you know, you both want to help the other with their task, certainly but part of this is *also* letting and enabling the other to actually do their part.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but just as jfw, you wrestle with the tech to find a working way, note that dorion has to wrestle with a much less clearly defined beast - namely the market and the future - to figure out something that works
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and you can - if needed - give justification also ie why you'd rather this than that
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: yes, you can and should provide as much relevant information as you can; including "what I think it's best from tech pov" but note that it's always with *that* mention: from tech pov;
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: yes, you are not to ask him the impossible, certainly; but you should have certainly asked for something like this article, way sooner; and jfw should have provided one even unasked, yes; but at least one of you there to have taken some steps.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: basically you should provide dorion with some options that are realistic & then ask/discuss on the decision.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you see, that's part of the question you should ask dorion really - can some parts be done more manually at first? ie is that acceptable/better than ending up moving the whole thing later/crucial etc?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: part of that is also to lean on the tech to support you, not to end up supporting the tech; not saying this is what happened/is happening here but just making sure it's said in clear, just in case.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: I don't really know how fast you work in general and on this in particular (and esp since you haven't touched it in a while if I understand correctly) but as the list stands vs the 2-3 weeks available, it still seems quite a lot & esp a lot of unknowns to me.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: well yes but ...priorities first; hence my first question earlier re what is absolutely crucial.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what's your current plan there on tackling those and fitting them within your 13th Dec deadline?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I do gather that dorion is more at ease first of all with marketing in fact; but he's clearly working on growing up the management skills too because yes, crucial.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you clearly owe him a cerveza for that at least, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: this sort of choices (to the extent it's about something rather important eg new rpc/btc protocol?) are normally management's decision really; precisely because that's the role of management - to be able to make the correct choice *for the business* not based on "technical difficulties encountered on the route" as such; tech supports aka provides as much relevant info from the tech perspective as required/available.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at times simply because they don't kill the whole thing in the medium/long term; you can say lead to more growth (if you are talking of the whole business indeed) but that is in itself already quite optimistic.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: a big problem with that sort of approach in general is also that some difficulties are really way better to have than others, *even if they are harder*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I don't know if I envy you all the time you had or shudder at the idea there, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: uhm, so you try A and if you run into ...too hard difficulties then you backtrack and try B and if that runs (later on) into harder difficulties you go back to A or search for C?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: huh, that give it a try...how exactly do you "see how it's going" anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at this point and given the little time I'd say it's more likely faster whichever way you usually go about it; ie ~any outside mix in there is more likely to slow you down than make it faster.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what's the way you normally decide on those ? in there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: doesn't sound likely to save much, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: is that the minimum you can get away with currently (ie to actually have a working wallet)?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re footnote 1 , preferable is one thing but required atm and given the tight timeframe you have there anyway, certainly not.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: was that footnote 3 required by your clients or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: Sept 2016 in crypto.py, huh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: over what interval have you been developing that wallet? if I read correctly it has already had a few iterations.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all right; help is and remains available, just focus on what you need to do and otherwise ask & speak up.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that sort of "merrily" is the insane sort really; way better off miserable while working to actually fix it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: say something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll read the updated plan tomorrow; and let me know how it goes/if you have questions.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: decaying, yes; that much is true; so focus this week and sort it because it's fucking unbearable from here, I have no idea how can you live *with it* there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: move the reading and the review of an outpost of progress to next week; this week you have a mess to sort.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good, do that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ups is next on the list and you buy it together with those computer parts already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: those get sorted and sorted first.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: listen here, put that guitar in the box instead of the hard drives and get your working place in proper order before touching it again; update this week's plan by this evening (your time) with clear tasks *in order of importance* to fix all this mess so that a. no more manual anything b. no more not-working anything c. proper backups d. hard-drives put to use
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: there's no ups even mentioned in that prententiously named list of first build
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I hope so.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so will you or won't you take care of yourself without prodding?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I certainly do not want to set & follow up on tasks at the level of a 5 yo; seriously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at that basic level, teeth and whatnot.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you know, part and parcel of being an adult is taking care of *yourself*; can you start actually doing that?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at least to see it all in its full glory, can't clean anything properly otherwise.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is there more to add to this mess?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you are clearly not judging anything there in any sense; you have some reactions and that's about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the glory of manually doing the work of the machine, so responsible.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how do you figure out whether something is "expensive" or not?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the UPS is expensive but a 20 yo car leaking oil is somehow perfectly not expensive at 0.5 btcv
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you do realise that for one thing a desktop won't have battery and for the other, an UPS offers also some protection against spikes for instance if nothing else (you could in principle get that from a proper socket too but I won't dream you have that somehow).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so listen here, no more talks of any car until you get your house and working place in proper order as someone *working with computers* ffs, not just clucking at the screen in between surfing or whatever.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well sure, why get or look for something like that, since there's no friend pushing to sell one and it's only useful but not that much fun, right?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's a shoddy mud-and-sticks-building, that's what it is, if you are looking for comparisons.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's a LACK not a leak; namely a lack of your planning, not a leak of anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: did you get an ups?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter iirc there was some discussion of an ups but I gather that was also not-as-sexy-as-a-car, wasn't it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what are you calling a leak there exactly?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so do backup *all* your local stuff possibly; if there is anything worth anything you actually care about in there anywya.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: since your local "comp" is anyway a mac something, there's surely no raid so everything might go pouf quite easily at that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as you set up the backups properly too, from blog to local comp (and do backup everything needed) and then at least one more layer from local comp to an external drive.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: this week and I don't care when you find the time for it but this week on top of what you have planned already, you get everything out of the boxes and in use.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: must be extremely useful in the boxes, obviously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you know, with this "will live with it broken" you are doing there exactly the no capacity and no disposition to ever mind effectively anything
(ossasepia) diana_coman: myeah; what else is in the boxes still?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because - I hope in my naivety here - that you DO have ALSO backups of your local drive to some external medium, yes?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie sure, you can and possibly should keep versions but that is layer 2 aka locally ffs.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the way this goes is in layers really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: myeah; but listen here: it was clearly and obviously and even painfully a problem; which you happily chose to live with for 13 days and presumably would have continued to live with until...when?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahaha, so your "crontabs not working" is just that you...turned off the computer while they were supposed to be working?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: man rsync
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you use rsync and transfer only what's different, not all each time, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and ugh, no, it should NOT take 3 hours EACH TIME, eurgh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why didn't you just...fix the cron tasks to start with?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do NOT live with broken stuff like that, ffs.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: let me see: you set up the cron tasks but wrongly so they didn't work and you didn't check until today when you noticed it had been going on like that for 13 days so you did a manual backup; is this what you are saying there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: pfft, I meant to ask what was wrong with your blog earlier today, lolz; but ...why and how come manual backups??
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all right.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how's it going today?
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, I can guess: she... stood out. Too much!
(trilema) diana_coman: by now I start thinking it would be a lot of fun to write this sort of thing in purely religious terms because it fits so well really.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah, what did the poor IP do!
(trilema) diana_coman: basically they ...excommunicated her ? lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, if you don't, I can tell you (from experience) that one day I'll throw a block of ro-text at you and then be all surprised you don't get it already, lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I do this at times and end up speaking not-the-language-I-thought so just ...say something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://younghands.club/2019/11/18/rmd-review-nov-11th-nov-17th/#comment-136 - speaking of foreign languages, if that's English article, than I'm talking Romanian here; dorion why not say something there? lol
(agriculturalsupremacy) diana_coman: lobbes: aren't you interested in BingoBoingo's writing for qntra course?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, I'll be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: do respect your own time and plan more and simply schedule people for later when they just come like that to make a mess.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: after all, if you were working somewhere, you wouldn't just nip out because they want you to go to the mechanic, would you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: myeah; you know,stick to your plan, it's there to *take care* of you really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, that will mean tomorrow waking late/tired though, won't it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and why was cars-running/looking not even in the plan at all
(ossasepia) diana_coman: or did you end up wasting the whole day running around with this/cars ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do you even get 4 hours of those original 8 hours of saltmines work today?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: mkay.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: ahahah; and I still noticed you noticed & changed the category in the end, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: on the wallet thing and *only* if you have time otherwise ie without snoballing anything, you can take more time and add to it; the writing IS part of the work on the wallet and you need to do as much of that as you can as soon as possible really since you don't have all that much time left anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: and in general: do NOT mix different things, it's quite unsanitary; if you use numbered lists, you should be able to reference any point by numbers-only (sure, have the headings too but not as replacement for numbers).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I do NOT want to write Monday 1 and Wednesday 14th and the year of the rabbit after Mohammed, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll use 1.1 and so on; you'll figure it out + update afterwards.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: how the fuck am I supposed to refer to "monday 1 and tuesday 2" in your plan?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: argggh, learn to use numberings properly already, will you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, ok; just meant to say that you can always publish it earlier if you prefer/planned it/have it done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I mean this review
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: when did you have that review ready/done ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: next time someone pesters me to make an account on their website must-have, I'll tell them in all seriousness about being a greater decide for oneself.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for a demo account and then be a greater decide for yourself."
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-17#1010573 - well, they are all ~same but anyway, had a laugh indeed: "If you’re still hesitant to put in your laborious-earned currency, sign up
(ossasepia) diana_coman: happy birthday, jfw !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: you should re-read today's log/convo too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, in general of anything you need to report :) but yes, that's what I had in mind.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: if you need to, feel free to report in chan too, there's no problem with it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the jobs for the previous day; fully; obv, for that, you need to have planned them properly to start with, hence next week you do that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: any questions for next week?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do you still need a US bank account?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: also, maybe I should specifically say it: make *sure* thos reviews don't end up taking ages to do,lol! the point is to give yourself something to start with/from next time ie jot down the important bits and what next perhaps but at any rate, do not become exhaustive about it/start polishing it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so try that and see how it goes; and feel free to experiment there to find what works best for you - the important part is that you *develop* a way to put down/pick up tasks that *works*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: glad to hear it; and you're welcome.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: there was one yest though it wasn't a question; it was just adding up and getting weird; it's cleared up now.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all right; I'll let you get on with the work then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the advantage with local bank is usually/normally that you can supposedly go directly to them and sort it out; + not sure I ever saw/heard of anything *worse* than US bank accounts but at any rate, you know that part best.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I see.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the 1st para is relevant to you, lolz; not that I mind you reading all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways; did you figure out any part of MP's title?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I wanted to ask why you need one since you've been not in the US for quite some time already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: o.O the joys of US bank accounts
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: read that 1st para in http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/05/a-summers-summary-and-next-steps-in-eulora/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that is very possible; the other part to this is to start getting better at helping your recall and reload really; let me fish something out for you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: this doesn't mean that you have to stop at *every* enjoyable point, lol; just make sure that you stop only at such a point, *never* at "the dreaded part"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: exactly; and not only frustrating but naturally something you'll ...avoid; obviously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but look at it from "getting back to work later", it should make sense.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you look at it from the "enjoy now" pov, it surely is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: good; so at that point you find a way to ... stop; the point is to stop while you have something easy & enjoyable & clearly set up to do; so that it's easy to re-start + you even want to restart; do you get what I mean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: when you work, do you ever get to some point where you really enjoy it and actually want to keep doing it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, the fun of guitar + surfing, for all the fun that it is, will need to be earned rather than just taken for granted.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for the other thing, there is some approach to your trouble that would work but you'll have a lot of fighting to do with yourself.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I see; for one thing you need to plan your stop/start better ie make it easier for yourself to get back into the work; this is most likely something you are getting horribly wrong there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: let me see if I got this straight: you *do* enjoy the work you've got in here but it's an effort and therefore getting started on it gets pushed to the latest moment (or beyond if possible) while all the fun to be easily had around is taken advantage of; is this correct?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ah, you mean that absent-fun you'll do even work-you-hate, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: and if there's still no fun to be had after those 3 days?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: what's specific to those situations? and how sporadic + long are they?
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: yay! and thanks for the ping.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so how did you approach/handle the longer-term commitments and work? ie ok, you managed yourself *somehow*; how?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: did you get micromanaged before? (dunno, at home, at school, whatevers)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: was this the root of not quite sure if agree with 2nd point?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that I can fully believe indeed; but note that the discipline part is not really about intelligence, I'd say; it's more of a skill really ie something you need to... practice.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: do this: set in the plan for next week some daily deadlines ie split your tasks into smaller chunks if needed and/or fit them day-by-day
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ok, thanks.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re discipline, it's really about taking full responsibility for yourself; you are quite intelligent, not like you don't know /can't see exactly what you are doing and when you are doing it; but for as long as you either think it doesn't matter or choose to ignore it anyway, it will go on, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, that sounds more on the "will always do this" rather than "it always spill waaay into everything else"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hm, you know it but you don't want it, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: do you know by any chance if dorion is out with the fairies or something? he was meant to pong the pings but dunno if too much excitement lately or what.