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(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you don't see that from your career of programmering to date?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: complexity is a the self-justifying disease of the programmer's mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while we're doing these, i'd be much obliged if folks with a copy of drakma on hand would run `(drakma:http-request "https://untrusted-root.badssl.com")` and let me know what you get
(trilema) ben_vulpes: weeks+ is prudent, review is slow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~google trout trolling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a freshwater river thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one trawls for lolz, trolls for trout.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trolling is /fishing/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is snark, not trolling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh we could just give up on verification
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keep 'em comin boys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: second gross of the day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'members' threw me off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trb builds with buildroot though, does that with which the kernel is compiled affect that pipeline?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "baby why do you hate it?" "because it's sooo baaaad"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: board books are costly, but yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bad bad agitprop masquerading as a children's book
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of the $libgirls in $othertown
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone else, possibly 2/10 troll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i prohibited spending money on it when i saw the cover for the first time months ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: zero rhyme, and let us not speak of the reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah and corporate is capitalized but vulture oddly not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: t i shit thee not is for trans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which tbqh i did not think was possible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and if you thought the ideological brainrot was bad, the writing is /even worse/.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had a similar experience recently, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty cool, barely a week
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the last one strikes me as terrible experimental design
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also the weakening tests
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that last tidbit is interesting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well visualizer of 'M' doesn't mean much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque's visualizer lives at http://wot.deedbot.org/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if your time has no value :D
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thing is terrifyingly long-lifed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > break into the community
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (but this is asciilifeform's line...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: child abuse i tell you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relatedly, i recently saw a pitch for a very 'colorful' animated tv show (?) that would teach children the basics of html/css/js
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it has stapled shameful brass brand plates onto the beautiful old customs building
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is a wework right down the street
(trilema) ben_vulpes: minimum buy 1.2/mo for 'office'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you have to go up to 350/mo for 24/7 access
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 130/mo for hot desk, not actually too bad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: origin story of this particular side quest is that i wanted to remove things from a list without having to jump through the hoops of remove and erase by using std::list remove_if
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could be wrong, pre c++11 might have adequate for loops
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first step towards slicing boost, if that's even possibru
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, i'm not looking into it too deeply beyond "m yeah blocks seem to be accruing"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the spaces gcc wanted for Real True C++11 Standard Compliance appears to have not affected node behavior
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nominal nsf grantee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kicker is that they're nsf funded
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wiley hackers, i tell you! they could be trying to get in, right this minute, through the window! or maybe just by talking to their wife, they can learn enough to put into their artificial intelligence hackery machines to make guesses at your password! you need this thing! that we sell!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "You can then add some data protection by remotely encrypting data during the closed business hours when data could be exposed to wiley hackers."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sheeeeit i do say this is some highly refined snake oil: http://www.spotcyber.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ho ho ho si se puede indeed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: none of it much larger than "cottage industry"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: printing of tshirts and stickers, leatherworking/seaming, i believe the glass fabrication folks are in on it as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even funnier is the "car lease"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think this gets the rest of the gcc bitching: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/k9CNE/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes have stale strange in tooling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although wtf, perhaps this vpatch does not nuke all barfage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one sec, brain liquifier running
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can reproduce up the specific barf if you'd like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something along the lines of string literals next to template macros
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gcc's c++11 mode began complaining about such
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there a reason to think that it wouldn't?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: unless i've made a terrible mistake, do believe it builds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 1% compiler flags, 99% syntax gynmastics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, /me testing a node compiling under c++11 rules, wild vpatch for anyone who wants to play along: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/p2A0L/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something something also "involved in 'porn'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: glorious socialist republic, at the forefront of socialist innovations claimed and actual, from right to die to filthy black-brigaders messing up all of our lovely peaceful protests
(trilema) ben_vulpes loled at an old local liberal spitting on the ground when having to discuss "eugene anarchists"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who could've predicted that a transportation system designed to give every schmuck their own car for driving as far as they can would be so expensive in the long run. who could've predicted the automatic transmission would accelerate the trend, or that robocars idem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaaand because the rail system is nonexistent, freight weight will not change and continue to rip roads up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mitigation actually runs in two directions; reduction in wear on road from lighter vehicles and reduction in wear on lighter vehicles from their own asses bouncing around. human-mass will keep going up, though, which will also eat the savings.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bridges still fall down in the great again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a very real lower bound on the savings to be delivered with this vehicle though, and they're probably going to get burnt down by the poor folks who can't afford any better than the plastic having to drive further because must ams cities.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plastification of typical vehicle mitigates against wear and tear from ever more degraded roads. less mass, less demand on the shock absorption system.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the naive counter that "cars and more land area covered with rapidly-depreciated asphault solve nothing either!" is stupidly ignorant of path-dependent processes. america is the land of cars (thanks eisenhower) and will remain so for as far out as i can see.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tar me not with their wailing!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relatedly, light industry in p-town is gearing up for some serious wailing on the topic of how all of the cheap housing for their cheap labor is ~gone and now cheap labor has to buy a car and fuel/maintain/operate/park it instead of biking ten minutes to the shabby-chic warehouse from their squalid shared living setups
(trilema) ben_vulpes: craigslist for the maga demo?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm halfway curious about the cl it poops out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am making very serious faces of 'no fucking idea'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'mezzano'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty good reason to stay in florida
(trilema) ben_vulpes: little 'lisp os' doesn't have its own c compiler, author makes "transpiler": https://github.com/froggey/Iota
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "vip" rates are "30 us per song with no touching", "ultra vip" rates are "100/10 min and maybe we let you touch something", ben_vulpes rates are "just sit down and tip like normal and we'll writhe all over you for reasons"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well from the cause of "i was just watching but okay" and not towards the purpose of "how much for how little"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not really a squeeze, "no, come on. we'll grab a side stage. you've been great just come along."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and this is why i don't play eulora
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i got two of the established girls to clear one of the minor's booths for the three of us this evening! for a whole set! for less than the cost of a single song in the vip room!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm playing with how much they'll do in the club for how little this year
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i should ask i suppose
(trilema) ben_vulpes: upon consideration it's probably just observation bias from asking "so whose dancing do you like"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, this particular club of its own accord mandates bottoms at all times. result is that the dancers are of markedly higher dancing quality than girls in the clubs up the street, charging 5x cover.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: glorious socialist utopia of pac nw: best water, bare cunts and right to die
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also 2 decades of right to die, but that's neither here nor there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nudity is free speech in oregon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, bare cunts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: commodity pdx strip clubs have an utterly inane rhythm. 3 dances: first sorta-clothed, second no top, third no bottoms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean heckle subtly, from the booths. with eyes and conversation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i found the strip club where bottoms stay on and hey what do you know, average dancer expertise is through the roof
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey you know what's great fun at the strip club? find the girls whose rodeo this is not their first and heckle the noobs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1643059 << aye, concede. can we move on to the failures of "culturing * populations and rubbing them across the sensitive mucous membranes is a bad idea" now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh shame, cohen got embroiled in shit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make friends with girls in nursing school is probably the only mitigating strat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you pay a shitload of money and then try to never make a claim
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we have health insurance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we don't have healthcare
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well there's a whole world of coordination i've never really explored
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey who wants to tell me that biking fucked my back up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i biked by a gaggle of old women doing precisely this a few weeks ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i watched some related lols play out with 'poly' friends this year. $girl couldn't bring herself to break it off with her wikipedia editor, $guy didn't offer the platform to which to jump or demand the jump, tension built and $girl doubled down on the socialistoid anxiety production machines to everyone's dismay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "universal fuckwit income"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more on the "compulsively answers questions on quora"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "golden helicopter"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exceptionally short thread omg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: may i have a concrete pointer s'il vous plait?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who knows if they even read their bouncer's scrollback instead of cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for as long as randos can join #trilema and lurk they will do so instead of reading the logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't strike me as a "needs" thing. will be a "can" thing for as long as mircea_popescu refrains from turning the lights on and setting +i or whichever arcane fleanode flag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's the safe and easy space in between "i am a gentoo nerd and have an irc bouncer" and "i am willing to undertake gpg key mgmt as the basis of identity"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform doppler?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger also guilty of this in spades
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who, CompanionCube ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-but mircea_popescu how is one supposed to authenticate to a database server over the webternet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: god i hate this shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > Are you blind? Don't you see the above logo? It is an indisputable fact that it is a critical vulnerability available on the Internet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: goes against the whole grain of how those systems work. single accountable individual with life and death power.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah who in fiatorg holds keys? controller? ceo?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "modern banking is wholly owned subsidiary of usg" "what? no it's not" "yes it is: https://medium.com/@msuiche/the-nsa-compromised-swift-network-50ec3000b195" "...oh but that's different somehow"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: palpable difference between that which came from grandpa's estate and the fresh purchases.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eventually parents bought shiny new
(trilema) ben_vulpes: older, rougher
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i grew up on prayer rugs quite like it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 4 mentions of pgp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the brief quiet, a surprising cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyRm5kc9ZUY
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) wat, b) SURPRISE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other constantly increasing costs of cross-referencing all of the inanity all of the time, "'ai' picks up biases from texts on which it's trained"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another lesson in ongoing curation of one's wot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more like absolutely appropriate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: alas mod6. my condolences as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why does gawk even socket?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did we ever do the "brain parasite from flushing sinuses with not-entirely-clean-water" thread?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is a thing ben_vulpes is baseline familiar with, believe it or not!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: length of plumbing lines from gums and nasal membranes to brain ispretty short
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642721 << you mean to tell me that you're culturing some weird population on your floss and then rubbing that all over delicate, highly permeable mucous membranes wired directly to your brain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: openssl, surprise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's a vacuum cleaner, get to work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every single spiderweb does not get its own trial
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 37 seconds from join to up, just shy of two minutes from up to first line, ~same from first line to quit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody listens to dumb ol visual memory ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a rerun from today, innit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: burger king triggered the "google home" devices' voice recognition, got them to blather about burger king products after the ad roll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/12/15259400/burger-king-google-home-ad-wikipedia in which the complexity cost of networked life starts becoming apparent to everyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other eerie coincidences of manufactured life, this coffee cup weighs about as much as the water it holds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: /ineffective/ sandpaper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not a bad thing qua itself, shows up in normal fucking foods all the time, but keeping a shaker of it around is Not Great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see also popularity of msg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that last one is mostly a mystery to me, but boost demands it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, anyone playing along with c11quest may consider the following CXXFLAGS: -std=cxx11 -DBOOST_NO_CXX11_SCOPED_ENUMS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu had story about discovering this the hard way, yes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well don't marinade it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: real men clean ballsacks with slavegirl faces!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: de-lint ballsack folds?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, trinque does not wash arsehole either?
(trilema) ben_vulpes is full of ignorance in re oral health
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also this mouthwash thing, does one really want to nuke the commensal population regularly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol "justice"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: brushes his teeth with an angle grinder ofc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever ditch it for a week?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways i'm in search of someone who used the 43kHz machine for a week and then voluntarily gave it up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that must be why my memory's going
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol brain liquifier?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know i don't think we've ever done the "sonicare" thread in here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trainputing is not tortue today, joy of joys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i can put one foot on the other leg's knee today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wonder of wonders, the sun is out and the lawn sprouting seedlings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's called practice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh oh i have one of those too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all sorts of interesting and amusing barf compiling trb with -std=c+=11
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it has javascript in it; my bag of fucks is empty except insofar as the poor sods who make "electron apps" provide lol fodder
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my humor gland is on the blink so i may have nfi what you're actually getting at
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "on macos it [chrome] even contains a userland usb driver for xbox 360 controllers. i know it's there because i wrote it. sorry."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a yeah right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no vouching for whores?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, i can see it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my back problems stem from the scoliosis, and growing lax about maintaining muscle tone on both sides of the spine typically
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have seen too many spines ruined at the hands of people who suggest fixes that "might work, might leave you crippled! we don't even know what's wrong to begin with!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am very suspicious of back doctors fwiw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, anyone besides me ever try compiling trb with -std=c++11?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but if you know of a good ice golem i'd love an introduction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "momma called the doctor and the doctor said (yeah kid your back's just as fucked as it's ever been), 'that'll be six thousand dollars'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (with acupuncture)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've had great success in relieving spasms from the scoliosis, but what i need is less inflammation right now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: the pain feels like its in the discs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mm, great point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody is walking on my back in this state shinohai.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's an improvement over this morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey at least i can remember how jokes are supposed to be shaped
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've never been...straight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah not unlikely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then found myself on the floor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as far as i can tell, i brushed my teeth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hard to give a shit about database rows when seeing through my own pain is a task in my life all of a sudden
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: i miss the spine i had that worked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh funny, 'score' was removed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "not those pants, these pants"

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