mp_en_viaje: you've supposedly been reading each trilema article just as it came off the presses for YEARS, yet you're still doing the exact fucking opposite, both of what you see, of what you claim to like, and what you know to work.
mp_en_viaje: can't you just fucking do ANY THING without five hand holdings and nine proddings and what the fuck already.
mp_en_viaje: why thr fuck can't you just live ? why can't you be ? why does it always have to hang on whether the planets allign and the socks discolor into the right hue of pink and the tree leaves fall into your drink at the right time ?
mp_en_viaje: what the fuck is wrong with you, that your entire life must always hang on the most idiotic, immaterially irrelevant and utterly unrelated conditionals ?
mp_en_viaje: your article has no LENGTHY EXPLANATION of the important fucking subject, "how the fuck i unfucked my head and stopped using google because google does nothing and here's what does and why and wherefore and what it means"
mp_en_viaje: listen to this inept shit : "Currently I will not mention the vendor by name here, as I do not yet know the quality of the service"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945691 << you are completely fucked in the head ; and it's evidently not something anyone can fix.
lobbes: (i.e. it wasn't parsing the "1" from the config, as it was reading it as a string. Thus couldn't properly toggle to debug mode.)
lobbes: in logotronics news, I discovered a tiny bug in bot.py's debug toggle (of all places). the "if irc_dbg == 1" should be "if int(irc_dbg) == 1"
asciilifeform purchased metered pdu for cage an' other misc. related necessities.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for thread-completeness, they 'if you want'em RIGHT NAO' 'we can hook you up with broker' 'howmuch' '6k for /24'
asciilifeform: 'grandfathered-in' owners apparently pay ~0.
asciilifeform: 'they also want justification' 'this means what?' 'that you actually use' 'how they verify?' 'that they ping' 'mmok'
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 16:25:46 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945465 << i'd rather delegate wholesale than create a bits-and-pieces madness.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: last detail, ips are 2.34 $ ea. ( unless e.g. mp lends piece of ip . mp do you want ? what wouldja like in exchange ? ) and 2 come 'phree' w/ the basic halftower.
asciilifeform: 'how does that fella clean that bottom 'dell' in there?' 'ask him, not us'
BingoBoingo: How they keep folks in though is they have a relatively lavish and unfunded "caja militar" for retirement
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well the Armada is also the coast guard. Lots of small boat for that. Also a Naval Infantry that does the motorcycle escort thing.
BingoBoingo: Privates/sailors get around 10,000 pesos a month which is below the minimum for any other activity in the country at 15,000 pesos
BingoBoingo: And the military pay here is... Abysmal. By Uruguay standards. Director of the Hospital Militar makes 70,000 pesos a month, because that what his rank gets him. 35+ pesos to the dollar...
asciilifeform: nao, i do not yet know whether these people are Officially 'ixp'. but appears that serve a similar function, several regional isp are tied together there, and they can process bgpism, service client-owned ip real estate etc
BingoBoingo: Interesting. Sound like when they went shopping they were looking at buildings and the datacenter already happened to be there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i inquired whether dc is primary line of biz in that shop. seems that it is not, they bolt together and sell 1 of those 'disk array' things, petabyte ea. there's a factory floor of sorts.
asciilifeform: cart and hydraulic crane is shared, 1 of each per hall, there's 2 halls.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i even asked 'where is the display/kbd cart', it was wheeled to me to inspect.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other nice thing, apparently 'if dun like -- can spit and leave'. month-to-month subscription.
asciilifeform: the full tower comes with 10x (not misprint) pipe, 1GB.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they dun seem to have side holes, but may be able to 'cheat' and bolt to rear of shelf. if it actually comes that i have a packed booth.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile , kindergarten arithm: in machine rack (22u) 1 hole occupied by patch panel (1u), power strip (1u), then will need 1u moar of mains sockets , 1u for switch, 1u for shelf (entrance router, apu's) , 1u asciilifeform will reserve for own www box, leaving 16 holes ; in 1 , rk plant will live. 15 for the courageous among l1 .
BingoBoingo this week at the feria ended up walking out with just some arepas and one of those nylon web belts with the friction buckle
asciilifeform: over here they're fiddibux. look in orc shoppe.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the shithole is so impoverished that ~nuffin can be had, an oxypropane torch will work just as well.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll try not to let this consume too much time, but the destructive abrasive decapping of at least some of the NAND should be informative. Should be able to jump from 80 grit to take the plastic off to the diamond bits to ruin the lithography.
BingoBoingo: I focused my search too much Sunday on the camping firestarter blocks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whichever method of execution is used, make sure whole thing caught on camera. will be likbez for others.
BingoBoingo: trinque: As it stands the plan is destructively decap and then abrade chips before hammering.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hit the sunday market and buy 1 of those crates of old photoflash cubes i saw there, if found. otherwise what you said.
BingoBoingo: trinque: I do not have a concrete cremation plan yet. Magnesium blocks are not as ubiquitous here as in old country. Will be hitting up large 'big box' type operation tomorrow shopping packing supplies and will check their outdoors section.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: btw interesting similarities in that dc thing to your 'cowork'. there's toilets, showers, kitchens, workshops w/ antistatic desks etc.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945710 << was, fwiw, set, it's set in the published recipe.
asciilifeform: trinque: currently this is for asciilifeform's pre-cuntoo gentoo, but i expect the method can be later transplanted to cuntoo.
trinque: can't recall what. w/e it was, I did it on the two-headed server in uy to use the larger disks
asciilifeform: trinque: quick q for when you have 5m : do you know how to 'bless' usb stick into bootability ? for some reason stuck on this ( machine is known to boot stix, boots the heathen gentoo 'live' thing. but not mine, tho is set up exactly like the hdd from earlier test w/ diana_coman )
trinque: stood up another bouncer now, so I should be more reachable.
trinque: BingoBoingo: no thanks, I'm going to take the opportunity to simplify my server situation a bit and consolidate.
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 20 hours and 8 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945643 << bought, btw, if wasn't clear from thrd, it's goin' in the switch.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ article will disappoint folx who wanted to see the coffee, board rooms, other 'imponade', these can show later if anyone gives a shit. so far just the goods.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: place seems to have a++ service , asciilifeform was sat in the board room in the throne and treated like royalty. fwiw.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm for. q then for mod6 .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw, ~all the isps in the US that I even looked at were significantly cheaper than similar eu-based ones (which in turn cheaper than some more exotic locations)
diana_coman: and I still want to take a rk there, as soon as it's available really; atm my sad pile of isp idiots is only growing ,with not much useful to show for it.
asciilifeform: unmarked bldg, in the middle of nowhere. inside, tho, resembling hybrid of dc and lobby of 5star hotel, flunkies bring coffee etc.
BingoBoingo: ty for the good news
asciilifeform: also came back with some photos (unlike latech, these people not allergic, apparently, to photo), will post.
asciilifeform: took a while to go over the contract, cross out things i didn't like , etc. but all eaten. rack people took the dough, promised keys on friday (apparently needs day to clear cheque and day to run wire.)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 20:54:58 BingoBoingo: bvt: Do you want me to stand up an instance of your blog from the UY1 backup?
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945443 << please proceed with the installation
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty. Once more friendly boxes start getting stood up I'd like to start meaningfully speading the DNS around. Different c-blocks, different continents, etc.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, the above is now done, in the sense that http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl are being announced ; mind though that you're not supposed to have all these in the same c block ideally.
mp_en_viaje: there won't be a yes/no until there's a specific list of what pizarro actually proposes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:44:22 asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945586 << the question keeps shifting, seeing how originally discussion was re coupla servers, not 28 fgs. in any case, the answer was then just as what is now : nsa will take .9 btc as it's owed in either cash or some other thing of equal value, for pizarro's convenience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
diana_coman: lolz, the unpredictable script
mp_en_viaje: the joys of modern computing, do the exact same thing 10k times, get different results 0.02% of the time
diana_coman: hm, let me try from somewhere else; atm it says "Both comments and pings are currently closed." on http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 00:29:12 BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945502 << i expect to be ble to put these in within ~hour.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 22:18:49 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945465 << i'd rather delegate wholesale than create a bits-and-pieces madness.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:34:02 asciilifeform: it did. which is why i'ma take the half hr to go there an' recon.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 18:22:21 asciilifeform: meanwhile, dig update : found a smaller isp literally 5km from my chair, 300/mo (us) for 22u half-cab, 100Mb/s unlim.; asked re ddos, d00d answr'd 'multiple balanced pipes, and we dun block, eat.' no contract commits. will be goin' there tomorrow to see with eyes before buying. ( fella pleasant enuff, offered to broker a /24 from arin , '5-6k', i said '1st lesse' . w/out arin, 2.50 $ / ea. ip from shop. )
mp_en_viaje: ahh, what a pleasure with these logs already!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 14:18:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
mp_en_viaje: and in other news, holy hell prague's into bon jovi. wtf happened here
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945425 << aha, this'll be it. was using the right tld, but ... yeah
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/how-germany-got-itself-banned-and-western-europe-altogether-isnt-all-that-far-behind/ << Trilema -- How Germany got itself banned, and Western Europe altogether isn't all that far behind.
mp_en_viaje: hot damn, again with the bs ?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Be aware your box down here is heavier and longer than any other. Shipping the whole box in you case is likely to be the lowest return way to handle your.
mod6: asciilifeform: He said 'he wouldn't know who to nominate.' I'm sure we'll dig into what do re: foundation when the Piz stuff is settled.
asciilifeform: mod6: didja ever get an output from ben re his replacement in tbf ? afaik any possible transmutation of tbf requires at least a nod from the fella, given as he seems to be alive, and not yet formally drummed out
mod6: Then could have the drives emplaced, racked, and off we go. Could simply sell the old box in .uy to orcs.
mod6: As far as the foundation is concerned... I was thinking, originally, that I would have the whole box (with drives) shipped back from .uy. Then could be re-racked somewhere. But now, with the possibility that there might be some new rack space available, maybe the foundation should just have the drives shipped back, to be used inside of the 2nd box, currently not in use.
asciilifeform would at least like to settle the q of whether even makes sense for anyone to fetch boxes, and if so, which
asciilifeform: mod6: i bring up subj only to avoid possible recursive dependencies ( i.e. for some subscribers, whether to transport box or bake new , may depend on the costs -- and time involved ; and this in turn has effect on what's left to liquidate, etc )
mod6: Yeah, let's see what we can find out there. But let's not put the cart before horse. Let's first get all the customers situated with irons and whatever remittance is required via liquidation.
asciilifeform: ( along w/ anyffin else that the owners decide to move. )
mod6: I'm not sure how it'll work out exactly, but somehow not selling the very finite resources of working/tested FGs to orcs would be in the best interest of the Republic.
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform opposes the sale of remaining FG stockpile to orcs at flea market. but mod6 is majority holder, and so will mention even this, for thread-completeness strictly.
mod6: asciilifeform: Ah, ok. Sounds like we can work it out with mp then, one way or anohter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 13:12:00 mp_en_viaje: otherwise, if you two(/three, whatevs) decide you absolutely not want to sell boxes locally (preferably after having considered the matter, rather than some inept guesswork in the blind), sna can take gear in lieu of cash, but not at arbitrary rates of nonsense.
asciilifeform: mp actually left the q 'in what pay' open until liquidation set up. but imho oughta ask him again , if we're actually considering a transport run .
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, there is also a possible variant where 4 boxen need pick up, but want to go to somewhere other than asciilifeform's. this is to be left to the owners, if indeed 4 boxen, and their owners want to move'em.
mod6: If the FG's (28 or so??) were purchased from nosuchlabs via the .9 BTC worth of investment agreement, then yeah, should be repaid in coin.
asciilifeform: per my reading of last wk's log, to mod6 is also left the fate of the piz FG's (mp asked to be repayed in coin, rather than iron, as i parsed it)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma leave it 1) up to indiv. subscribers, for subscriber-owned boxen 2) mod6 for piz boxen. if 1+2 add up to 4, then it is worth for asciilifeform to physically pick up. otherwise not.
asciilifeform: mod6: on top of this, imho the '20 boxen w/ no hot spares'-in-one-cage thing oughta be avoided . it tempts fate.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. This is not Argentina, so there should not be any export taxes in the reading I've done so far. Anyways priced per rack unit, it may vale la pena for the custodial benefit if you can make it down.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945550 << In my opinion, Pizarro is done, and should be liquidated. Whatever the next isp-like-item that comes up should be a new thing of its own.
asciilifeform: mp actually suggested this last week, as a possible backup for ordinary post if the degree of retardation involved in the latter is beyond what can be digested
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the orcs double-taxation thing appears to make transportation impractical, we may want to consider a pickup flight by asciilifeform . can remove 4u of boxen for ~2k (us) total . for certain machines even this may be +ev.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect you still have the ~import~ receipts from the boxen that ben botched. that oughta do ~sumthing~ ? try an' find out.
mod6: Alright, I've got the ML archives back up. http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/ and http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite. It involves retaining a customs dispatcher. I'll see what they want to produce this type of paperwork.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find out what this involves. could 'make or break' the calculation.
BingoBoingo: Also anything going to with a declared value of 200 USD or above needs some export paperwork done. The past few months have seen rather large outbound cocaine busts bound for Europe, so the export inspection folk that haven't been arrested are likely a bit on edge.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i wanted the ballpark figure (ty) in log so that subscribers can start making decision 'i'ma ship' or 'i'ma make own new from 0'.
BingoBoingo: DHL offers a more predictable per kilogram pricing model versus the FedEx black box, but they supposed just under 450 figuring an extra kilogram of packing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my current thinking is, to usa, to move the beefier (24, 32 cpu) boxen -- +ev ; but to europistan , where i expect would cost 1.5x-2x, + oddball europistani taxes, may not be, if anyone contemplating the latter, oughta do separate estimate
BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you recall the estimate for 'crate from BingoBoingostan to usa' ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: +EV for some, maybe. The TBF box with its dell badge is probably going to get its greatest return on the local market where folks pay to posture. Haven't yet dig into seeing much in the way of what the supermicros might return with some small amount of patience.
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo appears to have prelim. data re the cost of transporting'em, it seems to be +ev.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the very least, imho the purely piz-owned irons oughta live in new racks asap rather than go through the cycle of sell-for-penny-on-dollar-to-orcs etc. but no such thing will be done w/out agreement of shareholders ( and mod6 is majority holder. )
asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts, as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: Aight, ima keep working on this website thing here. Will write in when the archives are at least visible.
mod6: Oh, that's very reasonable. Thanks for finding the place.
asciilifeform: i'ma 1st get the rack tho, and its ~exact~ cost, and ~then~ come up with prices. ( will be cheaper than piz, cuz elementarily , in a quite high-risk location , not to mention the rack per se is 5x cheaper per u )
mod6: I'll wait a bit to see how things progress on that matter, and if all good, maybe will have bv just send the box directly there. Would save me a bunch of shipping fees.
mod6: Ah, well then!
mod6: Yeah, not sure if we care about the ML any more as far as a communication tool for development or what not. So getting the archives back up is a decent start.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma be inspecting and possibly leasing a rack today. if this goes properly, mod6 can consider installing $box there .
mod6: Regarding the foundation's two boxen: One was in .uy, the other was supposed to go down there, but is still in the possession of ben_vulpes. I communicated with him last week regarding the box, he'll be sending it to me as soon as I get him the deets.
diana_coman: mod6: ah, I see; yes, just the archives accessible and it will be great.
asciilifeform: mod6: confirmed; errything nao loads but the ml
mod6: I spent a fair amount of time yesterday trying to get Mailman working, which was frustrating, but no luck yet. If nothing else, I think I'll just ensure that all of the archives are visible somehow.
mod6: diana_coman: Yeah, thanks. BB made me a backup before the drives were pulled. I've placed all of the tbf website files back onto the original vps that used to host the site. So far, seems everything is working ok (as far as I can tell), other than the Mailing List.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's pretty strange that the url leads to anyffin at all, if it hasn't yet been moved
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can probably move it over if mod6 asks, in the case of the mailing list I will have to dig at what it needs to stand on. Because of what 'anyserver' is I am not at all inclined to put things there unless folks request it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 09:59:22 diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thanks for the check&ack!
diana_coman: mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000160.html and similar gives 403; did those move somewhere else?
diana_coman had a fox staring from the garden, only yest
mp_en_viaje: oh, and a flock of fucking deer in the cultivated field just like that, by the side of the road
mp_en_viaje: i guess it's either gold or corpses, what's anyone thing ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwle im here on the highway, major todo, three police cars opening the way for thsi coupla 7ton trucks with some tarps thrown over them, and s buncha escorts
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: Sent 8 hours and 40 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
diana_coman: ftp://logs.ossasepia.com/ - I've setup a ftp mirror for asciilifeform as he currently has only the slow loper-os; he already uploaded the dulap tarball; it has anonymous read-only access for anyone interested/having trouble with loper-os.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/a-guide-to-systematically-exploring-the-entrails-of-mp-wp-illustrated-using-some-weird-found-in-the-post-editor << The Tar Pit -- A guide to systematically exploring the entrails of MP-WP, illustrated using some weird found in the post editor
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Whenever you can make it to the namecheap panel I've got an authoritive nameserver ready on some ips for ns1.qntra.net through ns4.qntra.net http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=yhHl
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver' as well?
asciilifeform: console via rs232 , to make the apu1's live.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Well, the LAMP thing has three moving parts that gotta talk to each other. mp-wp seems happier on apache 2.2 than the 2.4 UY1 had. But, that means cleaning up all sorts of version to version nitpicky breakages.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno, i was able to stand up phuctor. ( and , not long ago, diana_coman -- logger . ) but then again these aint the 'hungriest' known proggies re deps.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The packages are worthless. Sure, they are old versions of software, but they are the wrong old versions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dulap-I was iirc a centos6 box. it is possible to live in it. but you dun get the fine-grained scalpel that gentoo folx are accustomed to.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: already purchased another 'octeon' to set up the entrance router + switch for wherever new asciilifeform cage built. and will start by emplacing apu1's & rk's , then anyone who has the courage to put box in heart of reich.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my CentOS 6 review: It's like Gentoo in that you end up building all of the moving parts. It differs from Gentoo in not having a portage full of recipes for doing so.
asciilifeform actually unearthed ~several~ poorly-advertised dc's in reasonable proximity to hovel, not only this 1. but none of the others 'eager beaver' , no word from'em just yet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everynow and then offers from there hit the circular file. Apparently Oregon, Washington, etc have space around that price for full racks
asciilifeform not even had occasion to go there, just yet.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i do not presently know what costs there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm thinking, the $14 (12 if full-cab) per u , is even cheaper than maxim's. there's gotta be some reason...
BingoBoingo: traceroute between the chair and 'anyserver' includes a 112 ms hop from brasil to ny
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Depends on the regional registry, but yeah. One of the early headaches down here is that LATAM is IP space poor.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'coloco' fella asked if i had any personally-owned ip chunks. ( asciilifeform does not . ) but iirc mp did. if this machinepark turns out to be worthwhile, and mp ends up sending in a box(s) , he could actually use own ips there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These sorts of things happen
asciilifeform: dunno wai so cheap, and difficult to overcome the 'gut' suspicion that 'there is catch.' but gotta be tried.
asciilifeform: full rack btw goes for ~500 there.
BingoBoingo: Well, in the smaller op the benefit he gets from 1 more customer probably more tangibly motivating
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty interesting, imho. the people with 5x the price, take their sweet fucking time, as if dun really like money at all
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to very soon have a 'touchable' cage. unless i turn up something truly outrageous tomorrow at the site visit.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 nitpick -- for links that are in fact in 'era 2', i rec to point to the loggers maintained by the living. i've nfi where is phf and for how long his ghost ship will stay afloat.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Other www's are getting ready to come up as well. hanbot's and nicoleci's have been requested. Waiting for others to explicitly request theirs given this is 'anyserver' rather than 'UY1 that bingo sees, touches, and locks'
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news, the fellow who identifies as an economist thrashing about his Party's collapse under him https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Talvi--El-FA-uso-el-aparato-del-Estado-para-intentar-destruir-al-Partido-Colorado--uc732566
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/07/13/forward-looking-statement-week-28-2019-the-auctions-thing/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Forward Looking Statement Week 28 2019 - The Auctions Thing
BingoBoingo: bvt: Do you want me to stand up an instance of your blog from the UY1 backup?
BingoBoingo: Aite, one blog is up. The LAMP is lit.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty for the gooder news
asciilifeform: meanwhile, dig update : found a smaller isp literally 5km from my chair, 300/mo (us) for 22u half-cab, 100Mb/s unlim.; asked re ddos, d00d answr'd 'multiple balanced pipes, and we dun block, eat.' no contract commits. will be goin' there tomorrow to see with eyes before buying. ( fella pleasant enuff, offered to broker a /24 from arin , '5-6k', i said '1st lesse' . w/out arin, 2.50 $ / ea. ip from shop. )
asciilifeform ftr , originally wrote the dulap kern config with philosophy 'cut errything that's defo not in my irons'
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
BingoBoingo: The apache version on anyserver from the 2.2 line which means mp-wp Deny, Allow statements in .htaccess will work as opposed to needing 'Require' statements as per UY1's apache 2.4
BingoBoingo: Update on anyserver. Currently recreating accounts for Pizarro shared hosting users whose blogs have not been brough back online. Due to the differences in where Pizarro's shared 'UY1' and this 'anyserver' live I will not be uploading any user files beyond authorized_keys unless doing so is explicitly requested.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lemme know btw if you want this thrd moved back to #o , rather than to put kilometres of gentoo cruft here.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to ~make~ a tarball that can be used in place of 'r2', using a working install w/ whatevr customizations in it, mount the fs at a /mnt/gentoo and then e.g. tar pcvfz diana_coman-gentoo.tar.gz /mnt/gentoo . this snapshot can then be used to replicate $box to whatever others.
asciilifeform: them spanish iguess not 100% defeated. or sumthing
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, neither rank very high, middle of country list sorta thing
BingoBoingo: It is election season. I imagine the derps over there are going wild with their contact cement buckets and spray paints
asciilifeform: for what do south-chukchas use fg ? ( maybe, ar is simply where them redditi keep 'vpn proxies' naodays )
asciilifeform: iirc coupla people there even bought'em. ( tho the only 1 i recall definitively, was that 1 which ~came back~ 'unsigned at post' , wtfpeople )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in last weeks of dulap log , there were moar 'humanlike' activity on its www from argentines than ~anywhere else ; incl. folx grabbing FG test dumps etc. i had and still have nfi who , why.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, apparently trilema more widely read in argentina than uruguay
mp_en_viaje: every instagram whore's gonna try and trade "followers" for a steak at my table, it's the nature of female youth.
asciilifeform: well like in other nuthouses there's the 'quiet' tards an'the 'loud' tards. but beyond that, aha, what diff can there be
mp_en_viaje: there is necessarily no difference between ANY pretend-sovereign and any other, angela merkel ==== usagi, theresa may === kludge etc etc.
asciilifeform: iirc even vitamin c demands doctor's orders to buy there.
mp_en_viaje: what else is a following for, if not tryina arbitrage it against the only eternal thing ?
asciilifeform: germany's the arkansas of eu, innit. errything banned there... 'wolfenstein' prolly still banned.
asciilifeform: lol! are they tryin' to set up a 'chinese' 'ban on tuesday, load up at discount, unban on thursday, unload on friday, repeat' 4cycle engine ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in enduring argentina lulz : bitcoin trading now illegal in germany, as per some derpy "state" "authority" of theirs.
asciilifeform: ( before there was a asciilifeform logger, the 'mine canary' was that shell, scrolling stats 24/7 since asciilifeform got off plane from pizistan )
asciilifeform: to complete the chronology : the 1st outage long enuff to nuke asciilifeform's monitor shell (i.e. >5m) was on oct 4 .
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/naked-sluts-in-hotel-rooms-a-frank-discussion-of-harem-sexuality-the-warm-pubic-reception-of-the-general-public-and-other-typos/?b=this%20here%20is&e=now%20on#select other reference, for completeness
mp_en_viaje: depending how deeply one searches, there were scattered reports for 6week+ of short blinks (which eventually drove an inquiry into latech etc)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 12:59:53 asciilifeform: atm that meter's fucking running but the taxi aint movin'!!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940121 this pair seems the earliest actual report
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 18:37:50 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Issue with an upstream switch is the report.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'bumps' in the pipe began full week prior. initially latech 'explained away' as 'problem w/ upstream router', recall.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, they pretty much did.
asciilifeform: it's like they all died of plague in last decade.
asciilifeform was mildly surprised to have unearthed ~even that~ 1 dc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this partic. shop appears to be a monopoly in ~400km radius of asciilifeform's chair. ( all the other dc, serve only lulazon, usg, etc )
mp_en_viaje: anyway, unrelatedly : for the folk awaiting trilema publication of divers reports, as were implicitly due for q3 sometime early october : i had every intention of doing them, if not by the 5th day as trad. absolute value at least sorta by 15th (as scaled value, 3x the months, 3x5 days) or something. but then, whole pizaro debacle, adding to the fact that i'm traveling and that's never so fixed a schedule (for instance, i was orig supposed to be in m
diana_coman: given how many there are though, I can't quite imagine this mythical "so many customers, can afford to turn down this one who says she wants several boxes, possibly rack"; nevertheless...
asciilifeform: naturally they'd prefer folx who walk in with 10k/mo and not ask difficult q's..
diana_coman: I have to admit that after a while I had at least fun asking them this sort of direct questions with no-possible-reasonable-answer-oh-noez
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wonder whether my entire inquiry hit the dustbin cuz mentioned 'ddos' at all.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-12 diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, the point is *before* anything; because they won't quite want to say/admit "yes, you pay for us to disconnect you" but onth if they say "no, we don't", they are in a bigger pickle when they do so...
diana_coman: heh, asciilifeform, lemme replay here my note that yes, it's easy to block them and they won't come back with reply either because http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-12#1005834
mp_en_viaje: but is now in the record, i do believe original item did exist, pizarro didn't end up plugged out of thin air.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 07:50:10 mp_en_viaje: aand in other news, my interface is indeed being ddos;d, and defo related to irc
mp_en_viaje: re the ddos thing of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-11#1944835 : i believe it likely ~same dork who started original pizarro troubles ; whatever birthday hundy his mommy gave him was enough for occasional 2Gbps bursts, sub-minute in length, and otherwise 4-5Mbpm sustained over a few mins, and otherwise whole fuel tank good for ~half a day or so.
asciilifeform: 'crawl, crawl, snail, on mt fuji, till you reach the very top...' (jp, 15th c.)
mp_en_viaje: ah ? then dunno.
mp_en_viaje: all this is pretty standard fare in the biz.
asciilifeform: and 'fixed 10m pipe w/ burstings', sat for 4hrs reading various lit and still no definitive 'here's how these work' to show for it
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aa, but they have claptrap re 'ddos proof'
asciilifeform: 'answers' included 'i must ask the boss, thank you for patience' etc claptrap.
asciilifeform rages re the bmoar people, wtf, asked'em simple q : 'how does ddos play into yer per-packet billing scheme' prior to subscribing simple box w/ own www ; nao 3d waiting for answer...
mp_en_viaje: nfi what the fuck we'll do, but anyways. "being worked up-on"
asciilifeform: there's no beating this , tru
mp_en_viaje: sure, but a box locked by a wot man offers the golden standard.
mp_en_viaje: a ? must've been a blow to the rubber chicken salesmen.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know some ~ex~ physicists. but they're all 80yo d00dz whose 'work' mainly is to water their gardens nao.
mp_en_viaje: there's the conference remnants, greatly beloved for purely prop-qualities, hawkings et al. but no real muscle left.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at this rate, the sad dc asciilifeform decided to move his www to (bmor) might be the 1st to stand up. and it's ungodly slow.
mp_en_viaje: the one remaining major impediment to actually bringing eulora back up is that... well, gotta find actual dc. and eh... eulora being game server has all sorta code we intend to stay secret ~permanently~, it's not so simple.