trinque: flipping it around, otherwise I'm saying "go see this fella about republican matters" and then ???
trinque: I am however going forward with a strict interpretation of my ratings as my routing table, and fella doesn't want to engage himself in the republic. I'm just reflecting that fact.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 13:52:57 asciilifeform: ( before this slips into the sands -- is pretty interesting... the 2 fellas broke off entirely ? )
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947111 << not at all. I like the fellow very much.
BingoBoingo did read, reread, cut, and reread dispatch to derps before sending. At this point though it seems everything to be said has been said. Maximum pressure to derps, a case where the initiative is already in hand to the lawyer folk.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i ended up using the lift as a lappy table, and instead gurl as extra hands, worked 9000x better than 'alone + lift'
asciilifeform: even w/ that forklift they had, it dun actually make so much diff
asciilifeform: btw likbez note for other rack people -- it is ~very~ difficult to rack anyffin large/hefty w/out 2 pairs of hands.
BingoBoingo: Well, kind why I want a timeline. Even if you put its operation X months out, I want to see it in the plan.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ftr asciilifeform's next agenda item, after cost sheet , is to put the logger back into service. 'ddos magnet', get some genuine picture of what this pipe can stand.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho this oughta be done -- but ~after~ the subset of l1 that wants in, is properly serviced and housed; and then i get that Gb/s pipe.
BingoBoingo: Still this is going to be the step requiring action. If you can put something like the fetlife crawler together, I am willing to help with the payload, and I suspect other folks are as well.
asciilifeform: ( before this slips into the sands -- is pretty interesting... the 2 fellas broke off entirely ? )
asciilifeform: ( are any of asciilifeform's prev. wot inductees still alive ? looking at notes, seems they all flunked. e.g. laddel. )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand the gotta get in the WoT aspect. There's also the gotta expand the WoT aspect as well.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 12:28:19 BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946864 << asciilifeform: Before I delay on this any further, how about 25% of shared revenue to me. You commit implement my account setup recipe as a bash script. You commit to a timeline for producing a mechanical contact churner. You make yourself available to do shared setups when I am not available so I do things like take the occasional weekend off to go to the woods. You produce a
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947093 << BingoBoingo , iirc i already said, this is strictly l1/l2 setup. (and i'm in favour of mp's 'give noobs phree year' ftr. but they gotta get in wot.)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 11:40:04 BingoBoingo: Anyways, just fired off the dispatch to the derps: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MOUg << attn mod6 asciilifeform
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: proprietor informed that upgrade of tower is logistically painless, simply will give key to the upper half.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect i'll get full tower sooner rather than later, it's still ridic. cheap for what it is. started with half strictly because unsure re who/how many will dare to live there, and asciilifeform needs rack space for self regardless.
asciilifeform ate log. will skip the flamebaits, but answer pressing q's, hands still quite full.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I want you to get most of the shared hosting gravy and I propose the incentives bring your superior tech talents to target gathering the gravy. Whether you go to a full cabinet quickly or not, I would like to see you explore getting the 1 G pipe sooner rather than later if the current intro pipe performs.
BingoBoingo: press of current mp-wp for comparison to the one I produce and commit to offering it for download on the main site for your venture in at from at least one page describing the shared hosting offering.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 12:33:34 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you could actually get 100% of the shared hosting revenues -- in exch for colo rate for the req'd machine, if you like. ( asciilifeform still baking the entire thing, as specced by mp_en_viaje , doing a 'measure 7 time, cut 1nce' but no one will be invoiced for anyffin until passes criticism. )
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946864 << asciilifeform: Before I delay on this any further, how about 25% of shared revenue to me. You commit implement my account setup recipe as a bash script. You commit to a timeline for producing a mechanical contact churner. You make yourself available to do shared setups when I am not available so I do things like take the occasional weekend off to go to the woods. You produce a
BingoBoingo: The prospect actually excites her. But when the time to actually do it comes, we'll see.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:36:31 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946982 << you know, as a general point and not necessarily presented as a consideration here -- uprooting her life is the pons asinorum for whoredom in females. if she's not willing to leave everything behind and follow, naked to the ends of the world, she's a mommy not a whore.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947043 << She is amenable to having her life uprooted. The next few days/weeks are going to determine how I feel about Uruguay in the mid term, which is less important than whether or not a datacenter is found that bites on my pitch for a technician gig.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:31:59 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946981 << if by contingency basis you mean, lawyer makes his end out of whatever settlement / judgement he manages, this is not what you ever want. i am aware personal injury cases in the us notoriously work in this manner -- but this is because the object of personal injury cases is the same moron that's also the object of the [http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/?b=bail%20bon
BingoBoingo: Anyways, just fired off the dispatch to the derps: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MOUg << attn mod6 asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: Police station even had a random old man civilian chilling in the lobby 1950's style. Story is he's someone's dad, but the chitchat really helped the couple minutes of wait pass while someone of sufficient rank to take a report was found.
BingoBoingo: And I emphasized the totality of events demonstrating the basement closet, as they operate it, is an unfit place to keep IT equipment.
BingoBoingo: Either theft under art 340 or theft of things of minor value under art 342 because I did observe servers running in an uncooled datacenter hall, an event that provides knowledge leaving me incapable of saying certainly whether the severs have any remaining value or not even if they do appear to function.
BingoBoingo: The printing however did serve. I underplayed my confidence with the spanish language at the police station so that someone would read the whole narrative of suckage and understand something reportable is occurring.
BingoBoingo: I will say yesterday the phrase "man of the future" was bouncing around in my head quite a bit.
BingoBoingo should also be picking up business cards Monday. The variants with and without phone number both include a GPG keyid line.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Well they didn't take what I printed. I printed because while my Spanish is much stronger, I wanted precision. And based on my previous interactions with Uruguayos at desks, I had rather low expectations.
mp_en_viaje: it works because it's the correct thing to do from the subjective perspective ; and that always betrays a certain thing to the observer.
mp_en_viaje: this also has entirely nothing to do with it being "the correct thing to do" in the terms bois represent correctness, "does SHE want me to go there say hi to her" / "is it correct in the system's own view" bla bla.
mp_en_viaje: in this as in all other things, 2nd order effects and indirect results well overthelm the direct.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
mp_en_viaje: oh, and to spell out that other thing : re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947023 your principal gain is that when you go to sit down with laywers later, and you tell them what happened and what you did so far, on that basis your odds of being taken for a rube drop from the usual 80% ot well under 1%
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/liget-jo-legosszetettebbszohosszusagvilagrekorddonteskenyszerneurozistunetegyuttesmegnyilvanulasfejleszthetosegvizsgalataitokrol/ << Trilema -- Liget, j ? Legsszetettebbszhosszsgvilgrekorddntsknyszerneurzistnetegyttesmegnyilvnulsfejleszthetsgvizsglataitokrl!
mp_en_viaje: that's the budget available ; balance that out with whatever it's costing you, and there you go. women do it because, generally, it costs them a negative. you do it when your subjectively expected lifetime value comes under a quadrillionth of two cents.
mp_en_viaje: that's the average value of fatherhood, in the grand scheme of things : the kWh retails for a coupla cents, meaning your contribution's roughly whatever you get once you're done dividing two cents to seventeen zeroes.
mp_en_viaje: the average energy of such a proton is well measured, they peak around 0.3 GeV, which is to say ~5eâ11 J, or in more everyday terms 0.0000000000000000139 kWh.
mp_en_viaje: to put it in the plainest terms : your deciding to be a father, and a proton's hitting earth are very comparable in terms of productivity. they'll do about as much, one as the other, just like "deciding" to be a beautician and "choosing" a career in waitressing will result in very comparable yearly tax returns.
mp_en_viaje: (we're not counting truly powerful things like viruses and such here because, well... how the fuck are you gonna compete with that. they invented the fucking mitochondrion for crying out loud, what the fuck have you done.)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:41:30 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, done.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947048 << to likbez this matter : in terms of the human herd's diversity, variety, marginal furtherance of the exploration of the available genetic space, interestingness, quality, however you'd call it -- the marginal quantum produced by the average father is about the same (really, slighty under) the marginal quantum produced by the average wayward proton.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:52:31 BingoBoingo: The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947027 << you see the things you learn, once you start working the street ? getting out of the house's a winning move, for srs.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:34:10 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-19#1946971 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947016 << man, transforming what alf says back into what he's talking about is serious arcana, what the hell, his output is only english in the sense | base64 is plaintext.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:52:09 BingoBoingo: Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947020 << you know, i just went hands in pockets. you really don't need the papering of police at this stage in any strict sense. i suppose it saves on handwriting.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 21:58:46 BingoBoingo: Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:35:03 BingoBoingo: One thing I have learned this week is that when I let my inner MP simulator handle heathen interactions instead of the Rube that is myself, things tend to work better.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:29:36 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, everyone there talks like faggots.
mp_en_viaje: but, suffice it to say there's a very good reason i picked nicole up naked at the airport in a country she never heard of before, and that reason ain't my jollies. not that it hurts the jollying any, but i'm way too modest and wary of vainglory to make my enjoyment the center of policy.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile if you aim to simply dissolve back into the background radiation, by all means, latch on to one -- doesn't even matter which, anyways, the workings of the genetics involved are too complicated for whatever analysis you could come up with -- and there you go, done.
mp_en_viaje: dude tryna build things entourage-ing self with mommies is dumber than the faggots, no doubt about it.
mp_en_viaje: following the logic, if what you're trying to do is build something, a mommy's about as useful to you as a dude. think it through, you can fuck the dude in the ass just as well as her -- better, allegedly, though i've never tried the fags do claim once you go boybutt you don't go back. and just as allegedly it's a lot more fun to suck dick than clit -- which incidentally i can well see, theoretically, there's more to it if nothi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:51 BingoBoingo: mod6: Staying or not staying is still up in the air.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946982 << you know, as a general point and not necessarily presented as a consideration here -- uprooting her life is the pons asinorum for whoredom in females. if she's not willing to leave everything behind and follow, naked to the ends of the world, she's a mommy not a whore.
mp_en_viaje: lawyer's skilled labour, like the barber or the gardner. you don't pay the gardner 1 night/month with your wife in exchange for the roses he gave you to give her on your first date ; you don't pay the barber one in twelve chicks you pick up in bars with his haircut, what the fuck. fair rate for fair labour and that's that -- and if it's not worth paying, guess what ? it's also not worth doing.
mp_en_viaje: it;s like hiring a plastic surgeon to fill up your tits and promise to pay him a % of all the money you realise sucking cock thenceforth. no prostitute, however slow, is dumb enough for that deal, it takes a male to do something quite as dumb.
mp_en_viaje: ds&e=man#select][paycheck cashing]/advancing "business", the lottery scratch ticket, and etcetera.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:25:35 BingoBoingo: I have my doubts the case will be taken on a strictly contingency basis, but as continued communications from latecho have further opened their breaches.. it may be possible to get a lawyer who wants to do this on contingency.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946981 << if by contingency basis you mean, lawyer makes his end out of whatever settlement / judgement he manages, this is not what you ever want. i am aware personal injury cases in the us notoriously work in this manner -- but this is because the object of personal injury cases is the same moron that's also the object of the [http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/?b=bail%20bon
mp_en_viaje: he just wants everyhing to be well, which, other than not ever working in practice is a great idea in theory.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:21:55 asciilifeform: mod6: the very idea of continuing to sell coin from piz piggy in order ton pay extortion to a scam latech, is batshit beyond contemplation. if BingoBoingo bungles lawsuit and we gotta evacuate him so he aint sold for organs -- then evacuate. but wtf already, nomoar to latech, can this q be settled definitively 1ce and for all time ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:20:58 mod6: Here's what you should do, perhaps beforehand; pay back the debt holders. Pay S.NSA, pay the foundation; any others.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:12:39 BingoBoingo: No lawyer that bit yesterday's pitch wants any money for the initial sit down to talk about the case. The water here is rich with blood the doesn't taste like mine.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946955 << this is actually pretty neat. talk to all of them, it's basically free business training for you, worth 1-2 months of us "college education" per sit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 00:41:00 BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
BingoBoingo: The seccional covering the most most populated Barrio of the city at midnight on a Saturday... Was quiet
BingoBoingo: The whole thing took 30 or 40 minutes even with the officer's pained typing. Local police roll their IT on Ubuntu...
BingoBoingo: No waiting in line. My report was taken with gravity. Another sectionnal will be covering the investigation because I went to the one that covers my domicile rather than the scene of the crime.
BingoBoingo: And I have my stamped copy of the police report. My that was an incredibly pleasant experience.
BingoBoingo: Shoebox size HP laser thing. 125 with a ream of paper. I hoped to never need to own a printer again, but I also don't want to lose the legal race for being too cheap to get a damned printer.
BingoBoingo: Aite, I picked up a cheap (US like price) printer as the hours for the hire a printer shops have passed. Doing another round of proofreading and sanity checking, then printing, then off to the prefectura.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-19#1946971 << the figure of 1-300k came from you. you're mentally ill.
mod6: BingoBoingo: if I think of any other questions or clairification points, I'll ask.
mod6: Keep with it then.
BingoBoingo: One thing I have learned this week is that when I let my inner MP simulator handle heathen interactions instead of the Rube that is myself, things tend to work better.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Anyways, if there is anything clean up related you are not up to speed on please let me know. I know the logs do build up fast. I will try my best to offer you relevant lines.
mod6: asciilifeform: re: foundation box to your new rack; yes. Thank you, I'll get that info together in the next two days and get back to you. That ok?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:18:56 mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: am i parsing this incorrectly ? << Just weighing all of the possible outcomes here, really. That's all.
BingoBoingo: And further
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, everyone there talks like faggots.
mod6: alright then.
BingoBoingo: mod6: In the absolute worse case I can hike to Argentina while developing further evacuation plans. This absolute worst case is very unlikely.
asciilifeform: then seems agree.
asciilifeform: mod6: the prev. agreed-upon solution to 'savages come after BingoBoingo' is evacuation. not 'burn whole piggy'. (if he ends up besieged by pygmies, no amt of piggy will necessarily suffice)
BingoBoingo: mod6: Staying or not staying is still up in the air.
BingoBoingo: I have my doubts the case will be taken on a strictly contingency basis, but as continued communications from latecho have further opened their breaches.. it may be possible to get a lawyer who wants to do this on contingency.
mod6: I'm not going to hang him out to dry, especially since it seems like he wants to say there.
mod6: asciilifeform: I do not want to pay them any more money, no. At the same time, I don't want BingoBoingo ending up in some sort of personal litigation down there, if they come after him personally.
BingoBoingo: mod6: I'd like to get a plan of action up soon with a timeline. As a Roman law country this is a much clearer case than it would be in US court. I do however want estimates from the vampires I am assembling before doing anything definitive.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 15:18:56 mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
asciilifeform: mod6: the very idea of continuing to sell coin from piz piggy in order ton pay extortion to a scam latech, is batshit beyond contemplation. if BingoBoingo bungles lawsuit and we gotta evacuate him so he aint sold for organs -- then evacuate. but wtf already, nomoar to latech, can this q be settled definitively 1ce and for all time ?
mod6: Or at least subtract it from the cash total we're sitting upon. Then we'll also have a better idea of what we're working with in case this thing goes to #2.
mod6: Here's what you should do, perhaps beforehand; pay back the debt holders. Pay S.NSA, pay the foundation; any others.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 15:22:33 mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 not yet spoken, but asciilifeform 100% opposes any further movement of any kinda moneys ~into~ latech from piggy , on any pretext whatsoever. << Yeah, no more money for them.
mod6: Well, it may be immoral, right. I don't want to pay them another cent, bit cent or otherwise. But, we'll see what happens, no?
BingoBoingo: mod6: Please read http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=JCaO which is the outcomes I am telling the lawyers I want.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Paying the datacenter more money when they are in flagrant breach of contract is immoral, even with my scrotum stitched to broken as hell contract, I am ruling it out.
mod6: Maybe we can get them to the table and we can negociate something better for us. I guess, worst case, pizarro ends up paying the remaining money.
mod6: Well, talk to each, take notes, let us know how it goes with each. Get their billing rates.
BingoBoingo: This is so because Maximiliano, the sale manager who Latecho has handling communications with me is a walking disaster for them.
BingoBoingo: The case as it is, as it has been pitched to them appears very clean under the local laws.
mod6: And if we can get, apparently 3, different lawyers to look at our case (are we interviewing them for free, or is there a retainer for each? if so, how much?). please write down what they say, if they think we have a good case, etc.
BingoBoingo: No lawyer that bit yesterday's pitch wants any money for the initial sit down to talk about the case. The water here is rich with blood the doesn't taste like mine.
mod6: I'd like to see pizarro save some money on the total $11,340 that would normally owe through the end of the contract, since yea, from what I've read in here, seems like they've screwed us over.
BingoBoingo: Their only defenses to collect on the remainder of the contract are active ones that don't apply with the bad faith they have demonstrated.
BingoBoingo: By my accounting payment made for october is a floor on the damages to pursue.
mod6: Ok, so oct is paid already then?
BingoBoingo: mod6: They've been evasive on that, expressed willingness to offer a "discount". They offered no exact sum. The range any sum they are capable of asking would fall into is enough to maybe or maybe not buy one of these http://archive.is/hdzCy
mod6: Sum the amount of money we would still owe through the end of the contract, specified via the letter the idiots sent you yesterday please.
mod6: Anyway, as far as litigation and things, basically I'd like to see if we can save some money. How much money? Well, I'm trying to dig up the costs we spend on that thing per month...
mod6: You guys have been running the ship for like, what, 14 months? Didn't think you needed my prods.
asciilifeform: mod6: formulated like this, the q has no answr. rather, q is , wai is it that it was asciilifeform who had to prod BingoBoingo each time he req'd a prod ? while mod6 logged in maybe 1/wk...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 04:03:16 diana_coman: in more productive news: ossasepia.com is back at new IP 205.134.172.6 ; many thanks to asciilifeform for setting it up and to BingoBoingo for making the very smooth transfer possible!
mp_en_viaje: evidently they never do, thought same of phf, and so on
mp_en_viaje: then again i've been thinking this for years+ for many others, and generally tend to think thus, so it;s not exactly a reliable explanation. more like my null hypothesis for some incomprehensible reason.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 14:34:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946848 << mod6 does seem to have contracted some kinda passivity-inducing brain fungus. asciilifeform hopes that curable, but prognosis for these is generally poor. threatens to hamstring the piz windup, too, sadly.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 14:20:40 asciilifeform: 'mote in his eye, log in my eye'(tm) or how did it go? 'these lamers can't run a biz' but how about run a blog ?
mp_en_viaje: it suggests he might be misinterpreting events on the basis of his experience with more common representatives of the genus. there's nothing like this in the orig jewish fable.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 14:04:14 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946581 << it's presently impractical, but not for the reason stated here. in e.g. 35nm, ~could~ fit a fast 4096x4096 multer. but ~riotously~ expensive , very high risk (any given production run, even with simulations and 'measure 7777 times, cut 1nce' , can produce a dud) ; wholly unknown prospects for earning back the spent
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946890 << so then EXACTLY for the reasons stated. stop being retarded and read what's written
ossabot: mod6 last seen in #trilema on 2019-10-18 20:55:34: Thanks for the update BingoBoingo. I'm a couple of days behind on logz here; I've been horribly ill for the last 3 days. I'll start catching up, bbl.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 11:47:54 hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << this makes me sad, both 'cause i rather like mod6, and 'cause the comment rings rather true. i hope whatever's bogging him down, stops.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946848 << mod6 does seem to have contracted some kinda passivity-inducing brain fungus. asciilifeform hopes that curable, but prognosis for these is generally poor. threatens to hamstring the piz windup, too, sadly.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:33:28 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
asciilifeform: doubly so if indeed trinque is the only genuine article besides mp, errybody else -- charlatans . wai involve charlatans ? do w/ own hands.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:28:27 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 << there's nothing secret. asciilifeform bitches about being poor, I tell him I have a 100k or so on a prototype run of his (apparently not yet design-complete, so w/e) RSA item, this passes in silence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 04:49:21 mp_en_viaje: one day as the fish was resting by a rock, under a willow, a man went by, and saw it, and said to his mates "let's go away, what stench here, of rotting fish". yet how did the man smell the rotting of the living fish ? what was it that he smelled ? was it his memory ? was it his imagination ? if the fish isn't rotting on the shore, can a man smell the stench of rotting fish ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946767 << from asciilifeform's homeplanet, similar parable : j00 abramovich invites friend's family to dinner. next day calls him: 'our silver spoons, they are missing, how couldja!' friend:'dafuq yer talking about' a:'thief! i never want to see your face again'. next day, a calls him : 'we, uhm, found those spoons.' him : 'so, let's have dinner next week?' a: 'no! THE STAIN, IT REMAI
asciilifeform: 'mote in his eye, log in my eye'(tm) or how did it go? 'these lamers can't run a biz' but how about run a blog ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:56:17 diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; y
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 << since apparently 'open season' -- fella had 2 posts in 2+y , 1 (imho quite interesting) about getting dr.mengele'd , the other, incomplete cuntoo draft
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:11:32 trinque: so, exert maximum pressure *now*, and then bend them to a settlement and be done.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm eating the criminal code now to make sure I can offer all the potential aggrevating circumstances
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 18:03:38 mp_en_viaje: because that'd be the correct answer at this juncture, "here's my copy of police report"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:45:28 trinque: the particular item might not be possible yet, maybe there are experiments leading up, maybe not yet.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946583 << 100% of the req'd algos & proofs for same, published on asciilifeform's www. trinque in fact could attempt the item with own hands, if he wishes, w/out asking anyone's permission , if he thinks it can be done w/ his avail. resources.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:39:33 mp_en_viaje: if you're interested in my (allegedly clueless, as it periodically is) understanding of the matter, alf wasn't interested in baking you a rsa chip because the item is not currently feasible. it specifically requires an object not yet known to exist, the extremely long mult'er.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946581 << it's presently impractical, but not for the reason stated here. in e.g. 35nm, ~could~ fit a fast 4096x4096 multer. but ~riotously~ expensive , very high risk (any given production run, even with simulations and 'measure 7777 times, cut 1nce' , can produce a dud) ; wholly unknown prospects for earning back the spent
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:36:28 trinque: I even told alf I had the cash to do an experimental run of the RSA chip, and he ignored, because why have friends
BingoBoingo: Holy shit! The local Codigo Penal is short.
hanbot_abroad: in other indechipherable languages that shouldn't exist, liszt in hungarian = flour. but buzaretesliszt = grits! and incidentally i learned you can, in fact, make bread outta grits. it's...edible.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 04:33:04 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946684 << not discussing here the software ; just the hw.
BingoBoingo: trinque: While the thread is still fresh, thank you for the well honed edge your criticism cuts with.
trinque: and sure, shall publish. I have never held anyone hostage in my operations of the wallet, and this flows from fundamentals.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 00:12:52 trinque: I'll genesis the wotcode after this is complete.
asciilifeform: re trinque's dialogues -- if trinque wants to unrate folx, it's b/w him and odin, as all ratings. and same re checking out to be an artist etc. was hoping to see e.g. this come outta him before he checks out, rather than leaving wot, deedbot, wallet, to be rewritten hastily, like phf left the logger, but what can do. at least he, unlike phf, gave advanced warning.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: alternatively i'ma supply the machine and roll it into the operating expense, and BingoBoingo does same, for 1/2 of the sharedhosting rev.
asciilifeform: naturally in this variant, BingoBoingo would be responsible for 100% of the programmatics; asciilifeform -- for physical/electrical maintenance.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At this stage of the game I don't want to deny you the potential income on what could be your high margin offering.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you could actually get 100% of the shared hosting revenues -- in exch for colo rate for the req'd machine, if you like. ( asciilifeform still baking the entire thing, as specced by mp_en_viaje , doing a 'measure 7 time, cut 1nce' but no one will be invoiced for anyffin until passes criticism. )
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946485 << Weighing this some sort of stock warrant, percent of shared hosting revenue, or combination of the two will probably work. It depends on how active you want me to be in administering the shared server, but I don't want to burden you with a fixed commitment up front. Also, I'm not the one baby sitting the rack this time.
BingoBoingo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=JCaO << The section of my solicitor solicitation concerning outcomes and my preferences for them.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 18:00:35 BingoBoingo: So in today news found a responsive lawyer interested in the case. As our conversation started http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1YXH hit my inbox
BingoBoingo: After the last communication I will take a generous settlement and the copy I have been soliciting lawyers with includes that as the desired outcome.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:09:16 trinque: BingoBoingo: make sure you actually file the report, per mp. name of the game is increasing the perceived cost of dealing with you vs settling sensibly
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946697 << I'm going to find which of the local prefecturas is responsible for the scene of the crime, assemble supporting docs, etc, and try to have this done by opening of business hours Monday morning
BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad: Let me know if your use of the LAMP discovers any weird, hard corners, etc. .htaccess for classic mp-wp rules works. No more weird apache 2.4 require statements. Good old allow, deny works
hanbot_abroad: no worries, i'd rather make odd requests specifically when i have 'em, than have 'em anticipated!
BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad: You are welcome. Apologies for the travel key confusion.
hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << this makes me sad, both 'cause i rather like mod6, and 'cause the comment rings rather true. i hope whatever's bogging him down, stops.
trinque: maybe somebody wants rent. I used to fuck nothing but tattooed punk chicks with canvases before I became a laptop creature for the money. this isn't such a stretch.
trinque: there are also a few operating dens in austin corporeally yet
mp_en_viaje: apparently if you remove power brick from laptop to have it cloned, the laptop left behind eventually loses power. who knew!
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946795 << I used the common denomination intentionally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:33:28 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946821 - no, I'm not at all coming to their defense; I am just noting that at least until now you've been practicing avoidance just as much as they did; perhaps in a different flavour, sure.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 05:07:43 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946705 << how are the people coming to this party supposed to find it ? every other empty hall looks like any other, how are they to ~recognize~ the right one ? see ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:25:09 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946742 << I shall be dedicating more of my time *here* to my hall, on your and mircea_popescu's example, and less time on monastisolipsism "for the archeologists" as asciilifeform puts it so often. I am loudly proclaiming my own stupidity to date, what's not to understand.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 05:02:46 mp_en_viaje: do you realise all the dumb cunts "working in the court" "having a career in law" etc would be at home confronting the suck cock or die starving dilemma, if it wasn't for your gullibility, buying into the socialist fiction enough to pay them what they ask for them to [http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/?b=Si-am%20ajuns&e=revoluti
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946774 << indeed, and exactly what I was driving at. zombie pizarro and the uy-IT-bois are making coy noises that sound like the beginnings of a contract enforcement suit. I'm saying scare them now, head it off, and cut rope.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 04:49:21 mp_en_viaje: one day as the fish was resting by a rock, under a willow, a man went by, and saw it, and said to his mates "let's go away, what stench here, of rotting fish". yet how did the man smell the rotting of the living fish ? what was it that he smelled ? was it his memory ? was it his imagination ? if the fish isn't rotting on the shore, can a man smell the stench of rotting fish ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 04:24:12 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 - you also expect everyone else to hunt you in the dark and come all the way to texas just for the pleasure of finally seeing those delicious flaws, or what?
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
trinque: one can't just do all the work himself forever; that isn't a house, and it isn't *because* it's not growing
trinque: the mention of the money isn't even virtue signaling. all the steps on the ladder past the first involve *investment* and not *behold how many arms come out of my ass*
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:56:17 diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; y
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 << there's nothing secret. asciilifeform bitches about being poor, I tell him I have a 100k or so on a prototype run of his (apparently not yet design-complete, so w/e) RSA item, this passes in silence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:40:32 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946705 - so what is the party you are making there in your hall? because so far the ~only visible part has been deedbot-related + unpublished code on it -> deedbot is the seed of trinque's party; now you say it isn't and 1. why isn't it? 2. what exactly is then?
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946742 << I shall be dedicating more of my time *here* to my hall, on your and mircea_popescu's example, and less time on monastisolipsism "for the archeologists" as asciilifeform puts it so often. I am loudly proclaiming my own stupidity to date, what's not to understand.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 02:46:47 lobbes: anyways I'll start it off: you could stand to be more explicit in your communication. As it stands now I'm stuck assuming what you consider my flaws. From my perch I'm *doing more* now than I was in 2017 when you rated me at 2, so it makes little sense to me. And since I truly hate assuming, instead I won't even bother wasting further cycles until I hear more.
diana_coman: hanbot_abroad it's !!reputation hanbot_abroad you want there.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman: trinque: [...] this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; [...] << this is certainly so.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-three-kinds-and-the-two-kinds/ << Trilema -- The three kinds ; and the two kinds.
mp_en_viaje: ie, YET ANOTHER trilema prophetic piece, the schmuck in question hit the nat'l stage a few years later and then... i dunno, i think he's being searched for by the interpol now, unless they found him ? i
mp_en_viaje: so looking for where the fyuck i explain whence and wherefore i've seen more preteen cunt than ~anyone outside of maybe a few forensic gynecologists, which of course i can't fucking find, i instead found http://trilema.com/2011/cosmin-gusa-este-pericolul/
mp_en_viaje also suspects trinque had the help of a whole regiment of little johny walkers to pierce through what he perceives, mostly of his own conception, the highly dangerous and difficult to cross dielectric insulation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38 trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946721 << i don't understand what this means, gramatically. is it "makes those sounds which he thinks noble, but without any actual real anything to go with them" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:26:47 trinque: oh and by the way, "making them sweat it" is not maximum pressure. it's avoidance behavior, the same as "tomorrow I'll be sober/file police report/make a 'conversion engine'" whatever the fuck.
mp_en_viaje: dun fucking work, it'd be nice if we could fix cracked cylinders with MAOAM, but it dun work, and not because haven't found the right flavour. it'd be nice if you could cure stupidity with massages and syphilis with needless, but it dun work, and not because haven't found the exact spot yet. and so following.
mp_en_viaje: all that trouble with ratchets could use the incomparably cheaper and easier lever machine. it makes less noise, it needs no grease, it doesn't wear out nearly as much and etcetera. oh if only.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, that's precisely what "jwz" means an' refers to : the intuitively persuasive but utterly untenable belief that one could find the just-right-one static point to prop the lever against, and then instead of
mp_en_viaje: yes, when the party was now in #trilema, something nobody had even heard of, everyone could recognize it, on the basis of "mp saying so", but that basis was built in turn, out of other things. it's a fully dynamic thing, you can't arbitrarily static-ize "JUST THIS ONE" node and then archimede all over the place, 'by this fixed point i therefore move earth and sky'. there's no fixed point, and no matter which one you choose there
mp_en_viaje: it's not so easy as all that, "turn this lever now there's light".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:16:00 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946557 << no, worthwhile instead to start a party first, as you are in your own hall, and then build items for the party.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946705 << how are the people coming to this party supposed to find it ? every other empty hall looks like any other, how are they to ~recognize~ the right one ? see ?
mp_en_viaje: belief, rite. for as long as you believe...
mp_en_viaje: why can't all those careerwomen go the way of lobbes 's girlfriend, exactly ? what's keeping them "busy" ?
mp_en_viaje: e#select][do what they want] ?
mp_en_viaje: do you realise all the dumb cunts "working in the court" "having a career in law" etc would be at home confronting the suck cock or die starving dilemma, if it wasn't for your gullibility, buying into the socialist fiction enough to pay them what they ask for them to [http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/?b=Si-am%20ajuns&e=revoluti
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946702 << let it be observed, since we're here, the INTRICATE way in which socialism perpetuates itself. by getting you to believe the whole "intelectual property" claptrap, it gets you to ~volunteer~ for tax in one of its principal tax halls. and it's not even the money tax that's interesting, all the personal service tax, where you pay homage and pay court upon a bunch of socia
mp_en_viaje: get skinned over, and rot there, to be revisited at best again in a painful supuration if at all. whereas if she lets you speak and says whatever later, exactly nothing's lost, not like she's about to forget her mind overnight.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:20:10 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946656 << eh, we're too polite of each other's egos. say, and I'll be glad someone said honestly.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946707 << it's like this : she doesnt' want to talk over you, especially as you're usually shy, or at the least come off as shy, because she figures (correctly) that there'll be time enough for that, later. the way she conceptualizes it, if she says something now that blocks something you were gonna say, that's lost, as it'll probably never get said, but like wood splinters, will
mp_en_viaje: one day as the fish was resting by a rock, under a willow, a man went by, and saw it, and said to his mates "let's go away, what stench here, of rotting fish". yet how did the man smell the rotting of the living fish ? what was it that he smelled ? was it his memory ? was it his imagination ? if the fish isn't rotting on the shore, can a man smell the stench of rotting fish ?
mp_en_viaje: enjoying the light breeze.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:13:59 trinque: and you know, these are the things friends discuss rather than stotting before eachother playing at greatness. I should hope we are that, and I am disappointed when we aren't.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946704 << one day, a fish read a story about a sheep learning the torah, so it decided to learn to walk on land. it waited patiently for the rabbi to show up by the shore with a line, and caught itself in the hook. the rabbi held his head, rolled his eyes, cursed in the winds but the fish practiced diligently and in a short time was able to take half hour walks around the shore,
mp_en_viaje: sounds easy enough at the entrance gate ; but once inside it becomes obvious that where can't live, can't live. my constant "either help me build something, help the idiots be idiots, or be sad in a corner -- there's no other option" is, similarily, insistently perceived as so much empty bravado at the gate. but, in reality, as time goes by...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 11:02:58 mp_en_viaje: leave your mark in this world. kill some of the boys born the same as year as you. hurt some of the girls. make a dent.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:12:41 trinque: all I did was piss my money away, and the idiot's still an idiot doing idiot things.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946703 << this is the fundamental problem with the whole damn thing, "oh, we want to be safe". "how the fuck are you going to LIVE then ?!" "no matter".
mp_en_viaje: i keep going to sleep in these humongous beds, in these tomb-silent rooms behind half-inch thick blockout curtains, dead tired. and when i wake, it takes three, four passes to even reconceptualize where the fuck i am.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-18 15:37:49 mp_en_viaje: lobbes i'm thinking of cloning the pizarro shared for sitting down your thing on ; but comments welcome.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 00:37:48 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946439 << I see no issues with this as long as the bot will have permissions to write files to the 'mp-wp root directory'. I'm not very familiar with the old UY1 mp-wp setup and permissions setup so I couldn't say for sure (I used the rockchip for my bloggin' with piz)
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946684 << not discussing here the software ; just the hw.
diana_coman: (the above was the continuation that my shitty client here ate; will have to fix this too)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 03:56:17 diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; y
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946746 - you also expect everyone else to hunt you in the dark and come all the way to texas just for the pleasure of finally seeing those delicious flaws, or what?
diana_coman: and ugh how horrible that theme is.
diana_coman: in more productive news: ossasepia.com is back at new IP 205.134.172.6 ; many thanks to asciilifeform for setting it up and to BingoBoingo for making the very smooth transfer possible!
diana_coman: trinque: and no, I won't spend my time "hating back" the silence.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38 trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
diana_coman: trinque: you keep silent though, there's nothing concrete coming out of you for months neither here nor on the blog and then you explode with stuff like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946710 ; personally I don't mind it, have fun and all that but this sort of secretive-working-on-his-greatness is just as much avoidance as you note in others; attack my flaws my foot; y
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:20:10 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946656 << eh, we're too polite of each other's egos. say, and I'll be glad someone said honestly.