diana_coman: asciilifeform: and if it's not clear, this is not about my rk, the tiny-worth, no; it's mainly because I really don't want to move about s.mg servers again, it's been quite an intense week that post-pizarro implosion one.
asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: mk: what do you plan to do to fully populate the rack and over what timeframe?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if it wasn't clear from thrd, i intend to give the askers what they are asking.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no; it's simple focus of ONE discussion: why do you care whether X got his bashing yet or not; how is that relevant to what people are asking of you?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: what does it take for you to stop once and for all the "but x ALSO didn't /did Y"? sure, bash the x who did/didn't if they deserve it, by all means, but that is on them and nothing to do with you, ugh.
asciilifeform: *then
asciilifeform: i'ma rewrite that thing until it actually satisfies all of the prospective inhabitants, would like to start the commercial life of the thing asap.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:13:53 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my intention is to fully supply the needs of l1, in a sustainable scheme, prior to any mega-expansions.
asciilifeform: and typically elaborate biz plans are written for ~investors~ rather than customers, afaik. imho it is reasonable for folx considering to park expensive irons to ask for 'how you plan to remain solvent', hence this thread. but 'how you plan to become rockefeller' is imho tall order. esp. since i've atm no plan to become rockefeller via this work.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:11:38 diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice to see the calculations for sure; let me add though that this draft is still not a business plan
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:10:10 diana_coman: asciilifeform: since 1 IP per rack anyway, I don't quite see the sense in keeping this all the time separate and then pushed in as an add-on etc. I'd calculate the Te to include IPs enough for a full rack and that's it; sure, additional IPs are additional and then naturally add-ons but that's separate anyway.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947558 << i considered pre-ordering ( it'll be 62, 14 for 1us and 48 for rk plant, i.e. a /26 ) but that'd be 200/mo vs the current baseline 25, and hesitated to do this until rack actually populated by paying customers, it is steep cost for an empty-for-indefinite-time rack.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:06:50 diana_coman: asciilifeform: the monthly overhead at $50 seems rather low to me - did you do any sort of estimate re how much of your *time* this will eat? (only considering that you'll spend 40 minutes just going back and forth each time you need to physically go there and that probably assuming good traffic etc)
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947557 << the idea was that time is amply compensated by the margin. (certainly w/ mp_en_viaje's 45% figure, it will be!)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:32:27 mp_en_viaje: i also kinda like the idea of permitting each user to pick his own rng-hash-crypto key.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947552 << imho this is a+++ idea. tho as i understand all of the prngism applies strictly to /dev/urandom and so not particularly important how it is wired, no one in his right mind will use urandom for anyffin serious
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:29:31 mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/ << the most important q here is, are we going to mandate serpent ? or are we going to permit legacy sha1/chacha ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947549 << asciilifeform is partial to serpent , but strictly because actually had a chance to do some analysis of it ; and dislikes sha for the obv. reason, and chacha ditto for the reason of originating from post-brainrot bernstein. but theoretically all of these snake oils are equally snake oils, and difficult to argue against the standard 'drink t
asciilifeform: other omissions in the draft include FG -- i dun presently have a 'equip erryone who asks' supply of'em here. can equip mp_en_viaje & co, but others will have to wait for wat-do re recovery of FG from piz crater
mp_en_viaje: (speaking of which, the misadventures of young Rıza Sarraf might be of some amusment to republican readership)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-spitroast-cheap-whore-storage-the-lonely-tower-winter-skies-gashcz-and-the-peach-juicer-you-sort-it-out/ << Trilema -- The Spitroast, Cheap Whore Storage, The Lonely Tower, Winter Skies, Gash.CZ and The Peach Juicer -- you sort it out.
diana_coman: there is no good hash though, only not-known-yet-as-bad
mp_en_viaje: the fast hash has to be FAST ; while the good hash has to be GOOD. this trumps e) in any case.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, i suppose the logical next step is for the remarkably productive bvt to do some benchmarking re speed of possible candidates (a list including atm the chacha and serpent -- knowledgeable folk feel free to propose more candidates) so as to have some practical basis.
diana_coman: and wtf did I do there 1 & b, ugh.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:24:44 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947561 - I can see that; my thinking was not towards using sha1 but more towards permitting other-than-serpent mainly because 1. serpent is still snake-oil and only adopted-for-lack-of-better option afaik b. maybe tmsr makes its own hash function next year or something (ha!)
mp_en_viaje: hm how the fuck did that work
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 00:57:27 mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you feel like taking the tiny concert goer over to cr for a coupla weeks ? you pick up your own airfare ima cover your stay with the fellow.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-10-05 13:08:17 mircea_popescu: which is the point here : using ANYTHING made by usg.vc.* is risky, and opens one to various liabilities downstream. including among them - that you will be unwound.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-07-14 21:30:25 mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
mp_en_viaje: b in any case is a central point of republican policy, as per both http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-07-14#1834692 and http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2016-10-05#1553287 (there's plenty other minor examples0
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice to see the calculations for sure; let me add though that this draft is still not a business plan
diana_coman: asciilifeform: since 1 IP per rack anyway, I don't quite see the sense in keeping this all the time separate and then pushed in as an add-on etc. I'd calculate the Te to include IPs enough for a full rack and that's it; sure, additional IPs are additional and then naturally add-ons but that's separate anyway.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the monthly overhead at $50 seems rather low to me - did you do any sort of estimate re how much of your *time* this will eat? (only considering that you'll spend 40 minutes just going back and forth each time you need to physically go there and that probably assuming good traffic etc)
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: why mandate a specific hash function (esp given that there isn't any clear way to base such mandate on "this is best hashing")?
mp_en_viaje: and thanks bvt, megaworks there.
mp_en_viaje: i also kinda like the idea of permitting each user to pick his own rng-hash-crypto key.
mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/ << the most important q here is, are we going to mandate serpent ? or are we going to permit legacy sha1/chacha ?
mp_en_viaje woke up early to publish trilema article, ended up reading other people's articles for 3 hours, not even done. lessee bvt's now!
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, sounds like you're rapunzel over there, woke up as if from spell.
BingoBoingo omitted from the notes post that I did during the closing chit chat bring up that "folks from my part of the US have a reputation for naivety, to the point some go so far as to call us rubes" as we discussed the insanity of common law systems.
asciilifeform: aite, will then post mp_en_viaje's crit manually when wake up. ( and eat into draft 2, lotsa good point )
mp_en_viaje: i'm one hair away from buying fucking ww2 de-mining tank, to fuck up all the "speed bumps" i run into, also.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for my debuggification, what was the xor prompt when got 'wrong' ?
mp_en_viaje: o fuck me, the idiotic "captcha nonsense".
mp_en_viaje: fucking lost it, ima wake up prageu laUGHING, what the fuck is wrong with you
mp_en_viaje: yo asciilifeform : i hit the comment, your blog says "Wrong"
trinque: in other and related news, ressurected trinque.org . will get the url rewriting fixed tomorrow
trinque: mp_en_viaje and billymg, thanks for the offers! I just got in from a vacation, so I'll need to attend to things a while before another. but would love to!
BingoBoingo: ^ With the late hour something has to suffer and what will suffer is proofreading. This is the Nth consecutive day I am ending exhausted and I like it.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/22/notes-from-the-first-meeting-with-counsel/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Notes From The First Meeting With Counsel
asciilifeform will rewrite, after processing all barf from the experts. sorta what 1st draft is for.
BingoBoingo: I felt less tension and stress every time I racked and unracked a 1U server solo versus any time I touched the Rockchip plant. I trust his new layout is better based on the picture and his experience being frustrated with the pilot plant, but once it fills... I suspect asciilifeform suffers from the same disease I do where I've consistently failed most of my life to assign value to my time and taken what was offered from the menu.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:28:17 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The actual physical machine aspect and the potential frustrations involved in the detailed fingerwork of handling RK drives and cables, suggests a price floor may be in order.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947432 << don't be an idiot and think WELL and CORRECTLY about the one guy with extensive tmsr dc experience here present is saying. are you SURE it's correctly priced ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 09:48:26 mp_en_viaje: and in other morning lulz, oh look! "ddos" failing both the d- and the -dos portions! YOU KNOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO DENY SERVICE RITE
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:26:11 asciilifeform: incl. 'bouncers', i want that 'ddos proof' claim tested sooner rather than later.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947428 << irc bouncers utterly ideal for this job, they attract the sorta limp dick "ddos" that separates the latechcos from the adults.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, is there on edge of the seat, falling asleep, waiting for me to get to his calculator thing. THE SHOE IS ON TEH OTHER FOOT NAO, HUH!!! you're gonna be asleep before i'm done with all this other stuff, huh! HUH!
billymg: sounds good, i hope to be there late january myself
mp_en_viaje: billymg, ima prolly be in africa/middle east this winter ; but defo coming back to cr prolly spring / summer at the latest, i dun so much like summer in yurp.
mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you feel like taking the tiny concert goer over to cr for a coupla weeks ? you pick up your own airfare ima cover your stay with the fellow.
billymg: first the former, until i get myself oriented
mp_en_viaje: or kicking everything out, installing own harem in there, castle billy mountain goat & his merry ewes ?
BingoBoingo: billymg: ty, putting finishing touches on the lawyer notes
asciilifeform: lol, dafuq are they doing speaking eng
mp_en_viaje: only onther place i currently know competition-capable with costa rica.
mp_en_viaje: soros similarly never made a salary, and so on. past a certain size income's whenever you run into a new planetoid to accrete, not every morning with the dew.
mp_en_viaje: just because mp income is not particularly visible dun mean it dun exist ; misinterpreting it as "mp just burns money" is therefore temptingly trivial, but about as wise as "mp doesn't understand computers" or w/e, "can't fucking add".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 17:18:41 mp_en_viaje: easily the worst part of my example is the "und die hundert millionen in meinem schatz" / "money is no object" "battleship mp" part.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947360 << a large part of this problem, should be prolly mentioned retrospectively, is that aquila non capit muscas / whales don't eat peanuts by the nut (even if elephants do). when i raped the "bitcoin cash" nonsense, for instance, i burned the idiots for thousands upon thousands of bitcoin at a time, as some here involved in the transfer may remember. easy to keep it net positive by frenzy feedi
BingoBoingo: Well, biggest offender is the local Communist Party. Misallocation of resources comes with the turf.
BingoBoingo: Many sectors of the Fat Forehead party are using potato footage in their ads. Can't even spec spammy blowjob footage quality Xiaomi or Huawei cameras that happen to have radios.
mp_en_viaje: can't even watch this shit with the lights off, too much lumvariance holy hell.
mp_en_viaje: o wait, their production dept reads the logs, now switched to aerosmith (falling in love) and following led zeppelin. aite, aite, your channel's pretty cool, chillax folks.
mp_en_viaje: Crashdïet, who the fuck ever heard of this ridiculous nonsense, metalaut went out with the fucking berlin wall
mp_en_viaje: the lulziest wanna-be punk bullshit, filmed out of a $200 potato by a few retards / "custodians" / graveyard shit workers still beats the shit out of the overproduced wanna-be pop of the usgistani "i wanna fuck latina teens" wasptard lobby.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, czechs have this "rebel" tv station. lotta pantera / ancient metal , modern sad lulz both local and int'l, and all sorta pink flamingo-likes.
asciilifeform puts down the microphone, and goes to meat. bbl.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 16:34:01 asciilifeform: diana_coman: currently your box looks like this. it'll be sat down on iron DIN rail w/ additional forced air when i put this in, it is still snailing its way through the mails.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re 'fingerwork' -- i've dismounted the rk's for the 1u earlier built for transport to piz , and they will live in a 'DIN' 2u subrack. so no moar finger gymnastics.
asciilifeform has no intention of attempting gentoo port to 'raspberry' or any other 'boot blobs'-laden arm machine
asciilifeform: they also dun specify what happens when ssd croaks etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: funnily enuff the upstream provider colos (not leases) 'raspberries' for 10.
BingoBoingo: Is there anywhere leasing singleboard arms, hosted for under 10 USD monthly?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd like to keep prices 'as low as possible, but not lower'. heathendom offers much lower, theoretically, prices, than what is seen in this prospectus . and not erryone agrees ' asciilifeform's hands worth added 50/mo ', so keeping the greed to a min.
asciilifeform: and the purchase of spares.
asciilifeform: i expect mp will have other, harsher crit, also.
BingoBoingo: Even with the lessons learned. Drives die, etc. 3 year depreciation may make sense for a dulap, but on a rockchip even with forced air...We had a Rockchip die
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is so. the current standard rk contains 2GB ram.
BingoBoingo: But the shared machine will have an advantage for hosting www in that www benefits from having all the ram possible
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The actual physical machine aspect and the potential frustrations involved in the detailed fingerwork of handling RK drives and cables, suggests a price floor may be in order.
asciilifeform: so we'll defo want the provisions for it.
asciilifeform: incl. 'bouncers', i want that 'ddos proof' claim tested sooner rather than later.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i did not want to start right off the bat w/ explicit pipe rationing, because it in itself imposes some loss of total capacity. but the provisions for rationing are in place.
asciilifeform: ( earlier was wondering, how the moldavian d00d charges 35eu per 1u. but diana_coman's bandwidth tests seem to suggest the answer.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do suspect you gravely underpriced the Rockchips for their share of the pipe if nothing else. At just under 9 USD, that's probably going to make any shared price point impossible.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is interesting that you think the margin is small. i was thinking it is rather fascist.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my other intention is to demonstrate that i can actually run a satisfactory ( to the standard of mp & co ) rack.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my intention is to fully supply the needs of l1, in a sustainable scheme, prior to any mega-expansions.
billymg: BingoBoingo: space on anyserver would be much appreciated, and the terms seem fine
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With that margin, you certainly are going to want to sell the shit of of shared for some gravy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i omitted discussion of shared hosting strictly because the provisions do not yet exist. but it should be simple to compute the cost of emplacing the necessary machine, via this draft.
asciilifeform goes to fix the inescapable typos
asciilifeform: ^ mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , & all other panzers, achtung!
BingoBoingo: The interim server is only supporting www, no bouncers.
billymg: speaking of, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform, it sounded like there was an option for some interim shared hosting. i would be interested in that if available. then when i'm on the ground i will look around for a local DC
billymg: i took some photos on this trip as well, plan to do a post about the experience (once i get my blog back up)
billymg: plus some long term renters (expats) in one of the houses
billymg: the previous owners ran it as a bnb, have some existing relationships that carry over as well (outside any platform sites)
billymg: some existing cows that belong to the groundskeeper, a native tico who's been on the property for even longer than the previous owner
billymg: yeah, ranch, not too far from the beach. multiple structures so there are rental / bnb opportunities
billymg: sorry about the join/part, bit of bouncer issues
asciilifeform writin' wwwistic calculator to go w/ the cost article.
BingoBoingo: What happens after that depends on how good Latecho is at math given all of the correspendence between myself and latecho is in English.
BingoBoingo: Apparently telegrams are a thing here, and sending one is the next step.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Will set that pick up date and thank the local cops.
asciilifeform polishing off the scientific cost analysis piece, but grr prolly wont finish until after mp_en_viaje asleep...
mp_en_viaje: or, to quote the lulziest group in all england, "When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And thatÂs what youÂre going to get, Son, the strongest cas
mp_en_viaje: self-sufficiency always beats out great wealth on the long term.
mp_en_viaje: easily the worst part of my example is the "und die hundert millionen in meinem schatz" / "money is no object" "battleship mp" part.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:17:01 trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947304 << tyvm ; and definitely. i would love nothing more than for model castle to pop up, net-positive and everything. so i'll do all possible to help you out there.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947300 << so set a date this week, and send your liason at the police preceinct news that they contacted you and thanks.
BingoBoingo: For the curious the filter I am applying to actions and timing at the moment is the idea of "tiempo" from chess. At the moment I have it an advantage of at least one in hand, and will not cede it for free.
BingoBoingo brb, picking up business cards and other pre-meetings prep work.
BingoBoingo: This is not the US.
BingoBoingo: The skilled work of presenting facts in a way judges are capable of digesting.
BingoBoingo: In jurisprudence here, the courts investigate the facts and apply them to cookie cutter of the legal code.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: (again ianal) but afaik 'facts' are what the local apparatus decides were facts, an' not otherwise
mod6: Take good notes, get the billable hourly rate from each prospective lawyer. Thx.
BingoBoingo: Thanks to the DNC email server thing in 2016, that DKIM establishes non-repudiation is fairly common knowledge
BingoBoingo: I do know going in, that with the big pile of emails in English... if this goes to court licensed translator or translators will have to bill for the translation.
BingoBoingo: Maximum pressure to Latecho. Minimumal punch list for the lawyers.
mod6: Thanks for the update BB.
asciilifeform: then cannot make excuse 'oh, spamfilter ate.'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: since you have a printer, may be worth sending same to their snail addr. notarized.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I replied that I will set up a retrieval appointment at a later date when the chance of rain is low to non-existent, and that the noc@ email address they want me to coordinate through rejects my messages as spam. I attached the rejection email as a .txt with full headers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ianal -- but seems like admission of invalidity of contract. if they intend to persist in the claim to the oct-feb moneys, would then logically continue to sit on the irons, neh
BingoBoingo: I suspect Maxi boy is under strict orders not to contact me further in light of the liability he constantly generates, provided he is still employed by Latecho.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It is their addressing the potential criminal complaint in the police report.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:24:43 mp_en_viaje: ircd exists not as much as support for great mighty lords and their sayings ; but as the central star of individually worthless masses of zeks
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/china-condemns-foreign-backed-color-revolutions-around-the-world/ << Qntra -- China Condemns "Foreign" Backed "Color Revolutions" Around The World
asciilifeform meanwhile cooked up the spreadshits ; tonight after salt mine will write article re costs.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/the-tar-pit-mp-wp-theme << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit MP-WP theme
BingoBoingo: trinque: And thank you for pushing me into activity on the matter of applying maximum pressure.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Deedbot's a lisp thing right? I suspect spyked may be a capable pair of hands for the task if he is available.
trinque: on that subj, if there's someone interested in paid work on deedbot, see me! I'm not very good at growing arms.
trinque: torching 4-5k here and there for honor is a great way for a man who just stepped into capital to promptly step back out.
trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:26:22 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity.
mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947033 << Ah, yes Sir. This seems correct by looking at the latest Piz Liabilities table.
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/21/and-i-wont-save-you-from-the-rats/ << Ossa Sepia -- And I Won't Save You from the Rats
mp_en_viaje: (incidentally, the historical dukes of devon were the cavendish family, with salisbury an' derby together the main three)
mp_en_viaje: the belief that individuals are entirely devoid of value or importance, mere interchangeable pieces "for a greater goal", ie nude and rude fascist socialism, is all over ircd.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, myeah. it's funny how universal, and how hard-core, if "subtle" the political choices one makes shape the output.
mp_en_viaje: ircd exists not as much as support for great mighty lords and their sayings ; but as the central star of individually worthless masses of zeks
mp_en_viaje: it's evident the orig item was designed by pantsuits, 0 respect for the importance of the connection baked in everywhere.
mp_en_viaje: the experience of travel certainly informs how a better ircd would work, i can say that much.
mp_en_viaje: and holy shit crappy internet's annoying. bbl, checking the logs, whether my say got reflected now, fucking timewaste
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 17:20:58 mp_en_viaje: i have been keeping a (quite public, at that) log of a wide reaching "where is it not raining" research project. expensive enough, too, i've been burning 4 figures/day, every day, since ~april. not that the point is how to make it cheapest or anything
mp_en_viaje: value and utility of gpg ; but we've currently missed out on capitalizing on that particular one opportunity -- which opportunity, again, costs money, and which opportunity, evidently, can't actually even remotely be replicated by anyone else -- because hurr durr, something's saved by capping pastes at XXX rather than YYYY. help me out here, what's the cost versus whats t
mp_en_viaje: finally, the third, which is the small matter, is that currently attempting to paste things back and forth is being disrupted by arbitrary nonsense. i'd very much like (not so much for myself, heh, but for the glory and heathen-perceived might of this our here republic) to be able to get strip club footage via a transparently logged process showcasing the great practical
mp_en_viaje: i'm mentioning it specifically because hey, why not, but normally wouldn't have, again on the expectation that "his lordship" is not hollow pretense, but actual and factual description. this is what it describes : a man who needn't be told the obvious. naught else, it's all it is.
mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
mp_en_viaje: so as the matter stands, you're currently eating the priviledge to no great productivity, and not doing your own interest, which is in itself ludicrous. hate the other folk doing exactly the same as much as you want -- nobody hates anybody ever but for the reflection of himself he perceives in them.
mp_en_viaje: any mismatch will have to be fixed on the fixable side. see ?
mp_en_viaje: whether you manage to produce five billion pounds of silver by running county devon or five hundred pounds of debt is a reflection on you, not on the county devon. how great a lord you are entirely rests on what great things you can accomplish on how little in granted priviledges -- and this for the very simple and utterly unmissable reason that another lord Devon there will be ; but another county Devon never, and therefore
mp_en_viaje: there's an important difference here : that deedbot is the payment processor of record is a ~priviledge~ i grant you, precisely in the manner and of the nature of my saying you now own county devon.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
mp_en_viaje: not angstily and spinningly like a spinstress, thus therefore progressing daily towards a goal, rather than wasting time "being worried" or whatever the hell.
mp_en_viaje: this'll require managing small payments on an hourly rather than day+ timeframe. it was specced back in 2017 or some shit, and i deliberately did not push the issue on the expectation and implication that you're sitting there responsibly and effectually, like a lord,
mp_en_viaje: your self-interest one is the perfecting of in-channel payments, such that deedbot can be used not merely as the processor of republican record, but also as the everyday support of commerce.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947260 << alright. to catch back here, after a lengthy interval of low thoroughput resulting obviously in some desyncing : to my mind there's three items outstanding.
trinque: and yes, this means after the UY collapse !!deed does not currently work
trinque: to make this happen, I need to replace some infrastructure I had in UY (the boxes down there weren't idle entirely)
trinque: I'm willing to do that because mp_en_viaje is cool, even though I don't think otherwise said item will have enough throughput for a % to be worthwhile
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I haven't built any hot-wallet features to date aside the stuff running deedbot's !!deed, parts of which can be repurposed for what you want.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/in-a-dead-end-world-in-an-erthetetlen-town-west-end-girls/ << Trilema -- In a dead-end world, in an rthetetlen town... West End Girls.
mp_en_viaje: in other news i might run the blog with the most linguistically varied spam. 30+ diff langs, i think of those i speak or visited only latin's missing.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, so for all the discussion of the past few days, i still don't have basic answers here. can i send hour-ish small payments via deedbot now ? if not know, do i know starting when ?
diana_coman: works; for now I'd say the main focus is on that business plan ; fwiw I would totally pay asciilifeform for the hosting right from the start, can calc what it amounts too once the data is published and plan is made.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that thing is on insulator pedestal, under it is a 3mm steel sliding plinth. the temp in the dc is a comfortable ~20C when i last measured. (surprisingly, very quiet vs latech's, they have civilized freon cooling, entire back lot fulla chiller towers. and, interestingly, coupla thou. litres of genuine pre-ban halon 1301 for fire suppression.)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the move will involve ~30 seconds of down time, we will schedule it together prior to any movement.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: heh, the cute&lonely rk that could!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: currently your box looks like this. it'll be sat down on iron DIN rail w/ additional forced air when i put this in, it is still snailing its way through the mails.
BingoBoingo: Commie scum are out on the street in force today.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: hm, I suppose given the sad state of arm-as-testing-ground, I should even re-think whether rk is best home for blog; though honestly for what I need it so far strictly re blog it wasn't any particular trouble otherwise
diana_coman: asciilifeform: larger than the 86MB I used for testing?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: before you go back to these -- is there a large file i can wget-test with from here , in ossasepia ? i'm curious re whether oceanic pipe is limit, or the speed of the rk ssd
diana_coman eyes the pile of isp-talks-emails that will take even longer to write-up
diana_coman: sure + at any rate, it belongs published, why not; ftr gathering all links and everything after this time ate up quite a few hours, ugh.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: see at the bottom some speed tests re current ossabot location too
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/20/how-my-blog-moved-north-to-the-usa/ << Ossa Sepia -- How My Blog Moved North (to the USA)
asciilifeform cannot help but respect some the hungarians, they fought like berserkers even after berlin fell
mp_en_viaje: as hanbot_abroad aptly put it, "these people belong with a snaggletooth and a viking helmet, holding an axe, wtf are they doing pretending to like, euro dress and shit, it's the joke of all time"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re agglutinatives -- turks, jp, also, but they have human-sized words..
mp_en_viaje: people ~never change the machine names ; websites come and go. so i'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of the internet's like that.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: right, but seems like there's an ancient never-flushed cache somewhere ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, there's no relation between machine names (what you see in traceroute) and websites as such.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 14:19:21 asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947073 << i cannot resist to ask : hungarian kbd lacks space bar ? or they missed out on that great 12th c. invention, the whitespace ? how did this happen, mp_en_viaje ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 14:15:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: maybe it is brazen of asciilifeform , who caught 0 edible 'fish', to start w/ giants of the ocean depths, but i really want'em in. even 1.
asciilifeform: then nm.
asciilifeform: they sell clamp thing that goes around arbitrary stick.
asciilifeform: the '6000' mostly lives in its tripod, in torture room, sadly.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: you're entirely right : i find myself still using the old soapbox to this day
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, for me, personally, the ubiquity and accessibility of the item are 99% of its utility. if it were even slightly bulkier i'd prolly opt out of 50% or more of the pics i take.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 12:13:44 BingoBoingo: The prospect actually excites her. But when the time to actually do it comes, we'll see.
mp_en_viaje: another nice thing is that ye olde rx was really 16:9 ; now we're back to 4:3, which imo a gain.
mp_en_viaje: i am using atm a 1024px format which is autoscaled for 560 wide inline ; but i suspect people like to be able to click the inlines for 4x size
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno that web publishing drinks even 33% of the well of compacts. to go dslr... well... so you get an image 3x as good say, which once scaled for web becomes... same thing.
asciilifeform: ( 'a6000' in fact goes in adult pocket if one unscrews the lens, but it's headache . the plus is that can use adult lenses. )
mp_en_viaje: they figured out how to layer the photodiodes by frequency or some shit, nfi, but it works evidently.
mp_en_viaje: i suspect the ultimate driver being that this smaller sensor is actually way the fuck denser than the other larger.
mp_en_viaje: smaller sensor therefore more optics is the tradeoff (elementarily if your final image is 50 rather than 100 m2, then in the same m3 volume you can fit ~1.5x the lenses)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i got last yr the (also sony, i like'em) 'a6000', but it aint quite pocket-sized
mp_en_viaje: pretty much same chassis, same battery/sd card assemblage, altogether very similar object
BingoBoingo: Because the space inside the freezone wank regime is at the same time Uruguay and not Uruguay.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They apparently had some machines trapped in the Freezone regime operation. Impossible to extract without customs wank.
BingoBoingo: In the US, my suspicion is that if they don't want to part with them it is for accounting/tax reasons.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun see wai they wouldn't let it go if i were to offer moar than the gold extractors pay; but this is presently in back of queue .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i did not get chance to study the pile in detail, but it was of quite respectable size, easily coupla tonnes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With the scrapyard thing you probably want to have the list of what in particular interests you, lest you end up receiving constant junk offers.
BingoBoingo: Bicycle guy suggested I "Just go home", Explained the US isn't any better. It just sparkles more as it falls.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 other find : the dc has, apparently , a scrap/graveyard. which consists mostly of... working irons. and apparently they've no ready buyers for it, nor stoop to using by own self. i'ma discuss it at the next meat session.
asciilifeform: 'tell me again about the waters of your home world!'(tm)(r)(f. herbert)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: american folx get so readily wedged in 'chitchat loop' , it boggles the mind.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I got interest but not commitment. Your visit and the alien qualities that made hardware desirable or useless to us got some interest. In retrospect it seems to have never escaped the chitchat loop which is a stong insulating force among the locals.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 07:38:57 feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/liget-jo-legosszetettebbszohosszusagvilagrekorddonteskenyszerneurozistunetegyuttesmegnyilvanulasfejleszthetosegvizsgalataitokrol/ << Trilema -- Liget, j ? Legsszetettebbszhosszsgvilgrekorddntsknyszerneurzistnetegyttesmegnyilvnulsfejleszthetsgvizsglataitokrl!
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-20#1947073 << i cannot resist to ask : hungarian kbd lacks space bar ? or they missed out on that great 12th c. invention, the whitespace ? how did this happen, mp_en_viaje ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja at any point try to induct the less-retarded latech folx (who nao gone) ?
BingoBoingo: Even if you are engaged in Missouri style "noodling" where you shove your hand in the fish's mouth until it is sufficiently subdued to become filets.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: maybe it is brazen of asciilifeform , who caught 0 edible 'fish', to start w/ giants of the ocean depths, but i really want'em in. even 1.
BingoBoingo: Well you can only hook the fish that bite.
BingoBoingo: trinque: This is understandable, and seems a very meausured application of WoT. My outgoing ratings are probably overdue for another read and revision soon.