asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the correct thing to do, from pov of the 'kulaks', would be to 1) have nuke waste from ru flown in , and spread generously on nao-'government' land 2) for btc
asciilifeform: i'm not in the habit of retrofitting a why to where there wasn't one. i suppose i have one set of jumper settings, she -- another, or i'd be in #darpa or wherever the capons and kanzures live, and not here
asciilifeform: i'd rather go straight to the very bottom of the deep sea, than to be 'saved' like the chix in that story was 'saved' ( not that noncuntbearing folx run much risk of this kind of fate, but there are cases on record )
mircea_popescu: the other side of "it works if you work it" being obviously that you gotta work it till it works.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:17 mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
asciilifeform: for instance brin the elder told me ~20y ago that 'yer a tard', i did not argue then also.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 23:50 mircea_popescu: aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:30 BingoBoingo: more heavily to the end of the year? As it is I am still effectively paying out of my diminishing savings to live amongst the retards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet rather http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809171 & http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781729
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 17:39 asciilifeform: dun think there is much in the practicals for asciilifeform & similar zeks to learn from the gurlz tho.
asciilifeform: and hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843033 . even dumbest male zek understands, nobody is waiting with open arms for him , unless in role of 'bullock', cheap protein on the hoof.
mircea_popescu: goes right in there with the whole http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22prophete%22 discussions etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 01:42 mircea_popescu: but the notion that anyone ever wanted a male is the most ridiculous nonsense ever. other than for steaks, xy has no use.
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, "it makes me so nervous but i trust you" explains the difference -- slave's well advantaged wrt zek. who's a zek to trust, he's supposed to be something entirely else.
asciilifeform: makes sense then.
asciilifeform: dun think there is much in the practicals for asciilifeform & similar zeks to learn from the gurlz tho.
asciilifeform: [insert the mandatory mircea_popescu thread here]
mircea_popescu: but then again, everyone gotta fuck his own ass in his own bed of nails, or w/e it is.
mircea_popescu: whereas the females (generally enriched by a divorce, more rarely by a "career" ie stealing from men via tax/administrative apparatus rather than via "alimony"/court apparatus) stick and try to hilary.
mircea_popescu: usually males, and usually after a divorce, whence they discovered that the land is utterly hostile.
mircea_popescu: what it usually is, is dork made some $$$ and instead of going the http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/#selection-21.0-27.251 route (ie, aspiring to local politics) went the offshore route.
asciilifeform: what then is it usually
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that old folx who cash their usg pension in bananistan instead of miami in any meanigful sense 'left'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're ubiquitous. nobody with any sense stays in the ustard lands ; which is why the us is so overpoweringly stupid. suffers from the africa effect -- everyone who's still there, still there FOR A REASON.
mircea_popescu: so by this logic, the obvious thing i'd want to do is go to the place where idiots just like him take whores hired for the weekend, to trade my decade+ committed personal whores for their mercenary randos. because totally, i can't hire my own weekend whores if i feel like it, i gotta participate in the best buy of cunt.
asciilifeform: i'll admit to a bit of surprise re the recurrence of the 'retireded gringo' in mircea_popescu's field reports, i was under impression that these were rare outside of reservation
mircea_popescu: have nothing to say, and like the fat loser in http://trilema.com/2017/cemetery-junction/ ~rely~ on the woman not understanding them in the most mechanical of senses.
mircea_popescu: like, we totally gotta go there someday. because the fact that their local "girlfriend" who "isn't a puta" but "you support, you know, financially" and "don't know if she'll be around in six months, or for that matter two" is immediately gravitating to my girls has ~0 to do with the fact they've been here years and speak less spanish than my bmw, and with the fact that the REASON they never learned it is because they fucking
mircea_popescu: which somehow reminds me -- the general reaction of the average retarded gringo ("retired" here because "Rich" etc dontcha know) upon running across my peculiar domestic arrangements ("she's my slave") is to propose they're hip to the whole scene, and mention swinger's clubs.
asciilifeform: whatever happened to the name, tho, i dun recall seeing it in print for , idk, 20y nao
asciilifeform: 'But you can also choose to pay. And every time a reader like you does business with me and chooses to pay even though they have an alternative, we see the real worth...' << shareware's been around since '80s, nuffin new here
a111: Logged on 2018-08-17 13:53 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other shoelace-and-gum copies of tmsr artifacts, http://edgecase.net/pages/how_to_buy_edgecase_credits << d00d with a kinda blog, tried to copy mircea_popescu's old paid-articles scheme (spoiler : dunwork) -- ( http://edgecase.net has coupla possibly-interesting items, compiler-wranglings, translations of old lit, btc tx likbez of sorts, etc )
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-17#1842466 : http://braythwayt.com/2013/10/04/the-freedom-to-pay-thirty-bux.html (meanwhile at https://github.com/raganwald/braythwayt.com/blob/gh-pages/_posts/2013-10-04-the-freedom-to-pay-thirty-bucks.md because, in the derp's own words, "i am an imbecile".)
asciilifeform: ( 1-deep archivator suffers from , for instance, the misery of 'paged' texts. you get snapshot of page 9001, and... oops , the rest evaporated. etc )
asciilifeform: lessee what the veteran www-wranglers ( trinque ? ben_vulpes ? ) say about this.
asciilifeform: and possibly other refinement
mircea_popescu: no need for n deep. just save copy of the item linked.
asciilifeform: and get at the unadorned text easily.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on 'conventional' www this reduces to 'munge the shitstack' problem, afaik still not satisfactorily solved ( and i dun expect a solution ). gotta have remake of www.
mircea_popescu: god knows the logbot auto-archival is wunderbar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought whole point of the elaborate electrical echafaudage were , to try an' get around these headaches
asciilifeform: troo hyper-document oughta contain snapshots of all linkage. ( sure if external entity updates, viewer can be offered later ver, at ~his~ discretion. but oughta preserve linked material at time of linkage, the era of 'disk costs too much to store human text' went long ago)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tis the fate of classical text, whadda ya want
asciilifeform: this item , with '9000' others, is well illustrative of the idiocy of the whole idea of the purely external link
mircea_popescu: in other items of perhaps interest to the medievalist, https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/sbook2.asp
asciilifeform: so then approx пиздня
mircea_popescu: right. but no, in ro -et is collective noun derivative. storfet, the group of cheap whores, from stoarfa, cheap whore.
asciilifeform: hm then not same
mircea_popescu: but it is genuinely fun -- even if it doesn't seem so to the victim in the moment, it does retrospectively.
asciilifeform: i picture the camera pov as that of hogtied prisoner derp, and mircea_popescu whispers 'you dun even know what fun lies ahead'
asciilifeform: i like with the teeth.
mircea_popescu: i actually like the ones with girls, myself.
Mocky: mircea_popescu, in the latest trilema piece I can't resolve the selection at the "ammends"(sic) link: http://trilema.com/2014/maramu/#selection-161.1-165.92
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-sovereign-power-of-the-republic/ << Trilema - The sovereign power of The Republic
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ack, caffinating and then heading over
a111: Logged on 2018-08-19 16:51 BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform. << Aite
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-19#1842911 << BingoBoingo plox to do as we did with prev rk, put the disk in dulap and ping asciilifeform when did.
mircea_popescu: jesus the idiocy.
Mocky: dude was ultra focused on the generic usefulness
Mocky: there's just not a method that returns only bool , he insists on returning some additional potentially useful info that was gathered
mircea_popescu: i could think of other reasons though. what happens if i want to see if you're voiced ? check the voiced set for you neh ? then if you're not included i trash your line.
Mocky: so instead the interface as methods that keep track of the info for the tasks you actually want to do
Mocky: the only reason to use contains() is to follow up and do something else, like add or remove. but if you do those things you have to repeat all the work of contains() contains throws out all the info
mircea_popescu: what was the logic ?
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform. << Aite
Mocky: apparently stepanoff wrote the generic list processing for Ada but saw that c++ would be more popular so then wrote stl as researcher at HP
mod6: BingoBoingo: Tomorrow (the 20th) you may arrage the nuke/pave of mircea_popescu's rented rockchip with asciilifeform.
mod6: The rockchip you rented for douchebag.
mod6: mircea_popescu: just a reminder, today is the last day paid up through for your Rockchip. Let us know if you want to renew or not. Otherwise, if there is anything you want to copy off of the Rockchip itself (files, whatever), have until tomorrow.
Mocky: mod6, i actually feel way better about the stl stuff now after watching alex stepanoff talk about his creation for an hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COuHLky7E2Q
Mocky: afaik it was in c++ that the angle bracket template syntax was first used. mustta had no choice what with all the other brackets taken, but still way to go interfering with >> operator
Mocky: compiler knows *exactly* what I want and emits it... except to the error stream instead of the output
mircea_popescu: anyway, i regard the matter of sausage as solved matter, by the germans, pre fucking the better germans (also known as jewz). say 1880s or so.
BingoBoingo: Discounting USG deployments this Uruguay trip might be the longest out of the wire in two or three generations
BingoBoingo: Fuck me, by grandpa's generation my ancestors were already trapped. One did Korea, the other did Burma
mircea_popescu: hm, did i even recount that ? kid goes to moscow to have a good time, like grandfather ?
mircea_popescu: i'd have said "go to munich sometime", but sadly this kinda ended. "go to munich with radetzky", as per the pilsudski story.
BingoBoingo: My own corner of the reich nuevo was a coarse meat sausage kinda corner
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, sausagefest mostly a bayern & neighbours affair. the prussians tended to smoke a lot.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the geopolitical lesson of all time : in that they did preserve intellectual and personal freedom, the germans failed to produce a "french crown" so they ended up demographically sucked up and re-packaged by one of the peripheral french crown usurpers.
BingoBoingo: Living in the Middle West I saw many different kinds of German exile community
BingoBoingo: I doubt all germans were cool. Maybe just the Prussians?
mircea_popescu: but yes, zee germanz were a lot cooler before they crossed the pond started calling themselves "americans".
mircea_popescu: just because your intermediate-new country lost most of the traditions of old country in its quest to be acceptable by the god-on-a-hill dun mean they weren't there.
mircea_popescu: hahaha of course they are.
BingoBoingo: THey aren't giant spirals of meat
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of surprised old country failed to invent the salchica and throw the whole thing on one bun
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, seriously, eat well but work out. don't turn into one of the local married galz.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 22:49 mircea_popescu: it came to be because if the ministry of provisioning takes a vacation, the zeks'll just return tomorrow.
BingoBoingo: Seriously Imma have to put myself on a diet or get serious about fitness. I can't outwalk all the choripan... which is somehow more fattening when I make it myself
BingoBoingo: Related: Rio Platense folks get a lot of credit for their beef and cheese, but their pork sausage... Divine
BingoBoingo: Now all of South America's wars are either civil of Faggy Falklands affairs
BingoBoingo: Lopez pissed off ALL Paraguay's neighbors, leading to the bonding excercise this continent is afraid to repeat
BingoBoingo: It only gets lulzier from there.
BingoBoingo: But Lopez built a fort and gave brasil the old "pools closed"
BingoBoingo: Which leads to the Paraguay war, In the empire days Brasil NEEDED passage on a foreign river to get to some of their productive agricultural lands
BingoBoingo: My impression of Brasil is an alt-America where large swaths of the land were written off as malarial death sentences.
BingoBoingo: The thing about Brasileros is they span all ethnic appearances. I could have swore one Brasilero during the hostel days was just a really faggy German
mircea_popescu: it came to be because if the ministry of provisioning takes a vacation, the zeks'll just return tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ~this~ is the "network effect" advantage : that should amazon's cart fail for three minutes, amazon would lose ~0 dollar value -- those schmucks will just come back. this is the niche the empire ever hopes to inhabit, and that it works is directly evident in the decrease of quality of life the zeks permitted over the past century. great-grandfather of ustard, ozlander or argentine lived A LOT better than the grandfath
BingoBoingo: The Brasileros manage to have a different accent every kilometer, but can't have sounds that aren't gayboi
mircea_popescu: Mocky https://stackoverflow.com/users/3211/mocky << i see stuff from 2009 in there. so ha-HA!
BingoBoingo: I really don't know how they manage to flirt and reproduce when they lack linguistic sexual dimorphism
BingoBoingo: Lol, biggest fag speakers I have met here are the Brasileros
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo principal problem with spanish speakers is that they speak like faggots, or if you prefer normal people with a lisp.
mircea_popescu: xml is not a thing, either. which is the fucking point : a) use these not-things we came up with so that b) you always need us.
Mocky: that was my last contribution iirc. flipped the bozo bit
BingoBoingo: Related, I put on some audio from Spain to help continue training the ears. Before this I am warned the accents in Spain son muy dificiles. And... Fuck the fuckers over there speak clearer than the fuckers here
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do they manage to omit "you should shoot policemen" or "you should beat your wife", but manage to include "you should use the usg.shitmodules" ?
mircea_popescu: the examples can i nfact continue. before i wrote down grep -Po '"nickname":.*?[^\\]",' for http://trilema.com/2018/fetlikeslol/#selection-97.20-97.53 i reviewed the expert sex changes. do you know "you should really use xml module to parse xml" is included in ~EVERY~ ~SINGLE~ ~GOD~ ~DAMNED~ ~COMMENT~ ?!?!?
mircea_popescu: so here i sit discussing "proper" "mimetypes", because these are fucking things to discuss now.
mircea_popescu: but an ever sprawling of the idiocy, that's guaranteed.
mircea_popescu: they're always very "creative", with their nonsense, the monkeys, aren't they. little baskets to comemorate Goddess in basket form can always be found. they can't add, of course, and don't wash between the toes. creative math or creative hygiene, where they self-improve in actual fields where they're marginal, this NEVER happens
mircea_popescu: knowing that summer is verano, not invierno, can you believe the shit ?
asciilifeform: prolly left the 'example conf' uncommented, dollars to doughnuts, iirc i ripped the 'mime' thing out of mine
mircea_popescu: but the process of "1. my broken usgism is superior for all cases i can think of" + "2. would you please change the thing you use so my broken usginsm also works" is fucking annoying on the face. fucking pick one, what's this clintonian dialectic.
asciilifeform: this being said, 'mime types' are ragingly retarded concept, and Must Die, fucking parse the contents already, fughet declared 'types'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842791 << except the one situation where you actually just ran into.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 19:57 trinque: it's always of the "some autist decided he'd be helpful" variety
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842786 << ikr. "this is how it is" mixed in there also. where the gall is acquired by the zeks is anyone's guess.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 19:25 xdeller: tbh standalone armored data more likely to be served with application/pgp or pgp-xxx instead of text/plain, if somebody on other end would care enough to set proper mimetype for .asc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842776 < no. a) there is no such thing as proper, nor is there such a thing as "mimetype" nor is "pgp" a thing. serve text/plain always and everywhere.
BingoBoingo: Well, that all depends on the bulk of what you are serving
trinque: it's always of the "some autist decided he'd be helpful" variety
mod6: better check these ribs, bbs.
xdeller: the later is better, but at least nginx which I`m using omitting it out of box
BingoBoingo: Or tell the server files that end in .asc are text
BingoBoingo: Well, the thing is, how stroked out and vegatative does an httpd have to be to not serve the plain text asc as plain text?
xdeller: tbh standalone armored data more likely to be served with application/pgp or pgp-xxx instead of text/plain, if somebody on other end would care enough to set proper mimetype for .asc
mircea_popescu: and whatever, "xdel" owner figures out which side his asshole is painted on, comes here, registers, fixes his shitsite, then it can be used. not like there's not a process for the world interoping with the republic : it apologizes and fucking changes.
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather it simply replied with "use p.bvulpes.com like sane fucking people".
mircea_popescu: trinque i wouldn't fucking bother. people can learn to use proper paste.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what is the putative non-rogue terrorist org ? << Prolly the Moose or Elks lodges
mircea_popescu: what is the putative non-rogue terrorist org ?
mircea_popescu: kek "rogue intelligence agency" amirite ? what, like the cia ?
BingoBoingo: I am all for murdering the shit out of application/octet-stream
trinque: xdeller: there's a timer when someone voices you, elapses 30min.
trinque: xdel.ru serves up gpggrams as application/octet-stream rather than text/plain, so I'll have to account for that possibility in the importer, as drakma gives you a byte array for those.
trinque: give it another try
diana_away: yes; and for bonus points the description of indians also sounds extremely modern, green-something-environmentalist-other
diana_away: well, so they had mercedes long before you :D
mircea_popescu: um ? what, like the girl's name ?
diana_away: at the national museum of costa rica I found out yesterday that they had "mercedes" here too, you know?
mircea_popescu: yeah but the digitization plant costs a fortune.
diana_away: myeah, I gave it a thought but it wasn't the right thought as it turns out
mircea_popescu: a large part of the amusement is actually made up of the strange reversal, where the subject shies away from the very cure. "humiliation", what's that ? that somebody's learning something, right ? worst thing ever, right ? mmkay.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-18 14:06 diana_away is trying to catch up on the logs
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-18#1842692 << had nicole summarize the 14th for me, mostly for my amusement at her cluelessness.
mircea_popescu: why ben_vulpes still references the old url scheme is anyone's guess :)
mircea_popescu: in other news, to directly dump a file into pastebin : item=`cat file.txt`; echo $(curl -Ls -o /dev/null -w %{url_effective} -X POST -F "pastebox=$item" http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com -w %{url_effective})
diana_away is trying to catch up on the logs
diana_away: hey, thanks asciilifeform ! I was thinking of you the other evening as it was rainy cr all the way, lol; and no, still no ocelot !
BingoBoingo: It is one thing to wound. It is another to hold the wounded and ensure the injury festers, which... is what USG has been doing everywhere
BingoBoingo: Not just the bombing but US nuturing a blighted shitpit
BingoBoingo: But there's still the unfinished Kosovo thing that'll be good for keeping anti-USG resentment up for another couple generations
asciilifeform: last i knew, after they were trashed, usg.euro.figurehead installed, and so forth
asciilifeform: i thought the serbs got 'democratized', are sorta like ro nao
mircea_popescu: "you want diplomatic relations, first you pay 10x what we think you broke should be valued at, then maybe"
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why the serbs permit a us diplomatic mission.
BingoBoingo: And not even an actual release on bail if he posts the blackmail
BingoBoingo: I don't see how the allegations are any different from using a "Game shark" on a Nintendo
ben_vulpes: lol hey check it out; this guy gets a haul of 300kusd+ for not responsibledisclosuring and douchebags of the world wank themselves raw over 5K and a spot on the altavista hall of fame
BingoBoingo: Ulbricht lets their hamsters plea "drug war"
asciilifeform: dunno that it's a first, who was it, ulbricht, sitting for half decade nao in the cork cellar, coughing up coin
asciilifeform: it was built not even for actual work but to play similar role to the church in old europistan, as a sinkhole for noninheriting sons of the brahmins
asciilifeform: the whole lure proposition of cia etc is the seekrit masonic wankage, the legend of cocaine trays and screams in the cork-padded cellar etc
mircea_popescu: the problem with this scoring approach is that google or w/e "exciting" "tech" bs is just as drab, but optimizes for "getting people in the picture".
Mocky: "look at our uber-drab office building with not a single person willing to get in the photo, it's awesome here I SWEAR!"
mircea_popescu: in the sense morale was never great since http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/ in any branch of us military, we could fairly say "morale is roughly as great as it ever was"
Mocky: re: earlier cia lulz, homepage of glassdoor.com today has (seemingly fresh) cia job ad in rotation, "Morale is great despite of the changing leadership" http://imgur.com/UE7J72H
mircea_popescu: this'd be why the ceaseless verbiage of "winners" (as displayed in say http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-sunshine/ as Greg Kinnear's role ) stinks so profusely to the intimate nose of civilised people.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:55 mircea_popescu: douchebag looky, the place's not for you. you're not smart enough to be here. what's so hard to grok about this ? some people are smart, some people aren't smart, you're not smart. what, you have to be dragged out, your legs don't work, what is it ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, defeat is instructive through the mechanism of "whatever your ugly mother & stupid father told you, and you like the idiot you are believed, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1826859 "
mircea_popescu: lottery winner is made famous by the after effects of "whatever i might've been, now i'm the sort of guy that wins lottery"
mircea_popescu: there's two kinds of i won : the "i won because you're fucking stupid" and the "omfg i'm so cool i won". the latter never works out.
mircea_popescu: despised, rather.
mircea_popescu: not even deserved being the key i don'\t think.
mircea_popescu: they WON. and welll....
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, the explanation for spain per BingoBoingo 's bit would be... reconquista.
asciilifeform: 'bought house so big, finally i will never have to clean' or how did mircea_popescu put it in the old piece
mircea_popescu: "humility" as the xtian virtue, right, "love" as the harem slave's virtue, "do not fucking flip that bit"
mircea_popescu: it is EXACTLY what it is, "the divine order of people who imagine they're too cool for assrape to happen to them".
BingoBoingo: Well, NATO is a club for the terminally bit flipped
mircea_popescu: then they joined nato, which is no kind of victory, but the bit fucking flipped. and well...
mircea_popescu: romanians had this overpowering "we're the total shitheel losers of all time" going 1990 - 2005ish, and it helped them immensely.
mircea_popescu: it's true, but the locals have been this exact thing 15 y ago too , and 50, and will be in 50.
mircea_popescu: diana's notion of the locals was "whoa, they remind me a lot of romanians 10-15 yrars ago, when they had a little money and slowly getting a clue"
mircea_popescu: this may very well be it : there's a single bit in the bios, and the flip state of it decides.
BingoBoingo: The victory bit in the brain flips and then the legions stop carrying their own shit, etc
BingoBoingo: Sure, the subcontinent doesn't really have a strong mestizo equivalent
mircea_popescu: the brits "had" india&china in much less of a sense than spain had el dorado.
BingoBoingo: Like the Brits...
mircea_popescu: spain was ever fucked in the head. how did they manage to get the whole new world and end up the laughingstock they are...
mircea_popescu: not for lack of trying, right ? barcelona has better cathedral than paris.
asciilifeform: then again could be red herring, perhaps drink made'em
BingoBoingo: Uruguay tried as well, but they really needed a stressor from outside
mircea_popescu: was 100% correct move, yet it went nowehere. perhaps lending credence to alf's theory re poor genetic stock ; perhaps rather related to how spanish original this movement copied (franco) ALSO went nowhere, principally because illiterate ; though here enters http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/#selection-193.0-193.406 ie, rhodesia wasn't as illiterate
mircea_popescu: in 1970s, buncha army officers rounded up all the adlais, beat the shit out of them, then shot anyone who complained.
mircea_popescu: insanely enough, they tried.
BingoBoingo: Or they could hve beat up on Paraguay again
BingoBoingo: Joining WWII before Brasil picked a side would have given them a stressor of the sort they had been lacking
mircea_popescu: ayup. it is very much the ur-story.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we were having thread 300 y ago, could just as easily link to the fall of lucifer. it's a how, not a why
BingoBoingo: That and the Admirald Graf Spee probably pulled into the wrong port on the Rio de la Plata
mircea_popescu: because they hallucinated freedoms they didn't have, therefore they went from hero to zero.
asciilifeform: i'll admit to being still somewhat puzzled re ~why~ precisely argentina went 'from hero to zero' ( mircea_popescu described in some detail , the ~how~, but the 'why' remains puzzler )
BingoBoingo: The local talent is very time oriented thing. In the early 1900's Argentina and Uruguay seemed to have enough of it and then regression to the mean happened.
BingoBoingo: I imagine the process begins with classical style painting which are "restored" by coloring book graduates
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/P1000248-e1518218404440-768x1024.jpg
mircea_popescu: cr is the original "omfg check out this wonder" though. smaller, but imo better.
mircea_popescu: Mocky latin america cemetery utterly worth visiting. very elegant, makes the inept puritan bs from the us shine in all its ridiculousness.
Mocky: what's interesting at the big cemetery?
BingoBoingo: Or Mocky whenever he makes the trip
BingoBoingo: And the cemetary
BingoBoingo: Next time alf's over if he has time we might have to venture to the bookstores of abandoned library scent
asciilifeform: elsewhere in heathendom, https://archive.is/owcBE >> '10 users were responsible for 85 per cent of the links that the Coinhive service uses to mine' shitcoins etc
mircea_popescu: these days, no trade, musty abandoned library scent everywhere
BingoBoingo: China's embassy is way out in Carrasco near the airport
BingoBoingo: Ecuador has a sad hole across from the parrilla that used steak magic on ben_vulpes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Spain is rather impressive as well
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Learning a lot about national govt values from seeing embassies. US has bleak river fort. Britain has country club. Romania has modest row house. Dominican Rupublic goes months without fixing their flag's attachment to pole.
mircea_popescu: you mean the people with the http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ ?
asciilifeform: i can picture, 'we're sending 100 spies to beijing, wake up the rot13 squad'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, see. This comms system was GREAT... against the pashtuns and maybe Baathists
BingoBoingo: Back in the stretch of history that spanned 10k BTC Pizza to Satoshi Dice IPO
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess. dun seem like any difference to me, write on blogspot, slideshow at conference, whatever. then again, entomology.