BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I understand your desire to construct a defense, but look. I just took apart and reassembled a hand stack of machines to get two photos at your request. You introduced a potential competing claim to title on some of the FUCKGOATS, which I will investigate as I must. However the count and all the photos in the world don't mean shit if you sign off on a S.NSA closing inventory that includes items other folks hold the title
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform is 'thief', then what he 'stole' is , i suppose, republic's tech stack. and 'stole' via same mechanism that mp 'steals' gurlz from castratos, i.e. by simply showing up. it aint my fault that asciilifeform's left hand flew circles around errybody else's collective pairs of hands historically.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma put this in the signed statement, but 2 of the fg here belong, presently, to piz. the rest (in fact factory tailings that were never on the official books) -- to mp. and ideally he'll say where he wants'em mailed, when properly proclaims liquidation.
BingoBoingo: There is an exact count. The problem now is resolving title on members of the counted set.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I removed those during the count as trinque has made it clear that he has little interest in the future of that chassis. I am also now going to have to put statement and not archaeology on the to do list to sort out wtf is going on with that, because it does affect the meaning of the count.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Alright, I'll open up the S.MG boxes while I'm at it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma post a similar photocatalogue later today of the small inventory here. and sign the text description.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You have the link to the full tarball from yesterday if anything important seems to be missing.
asciilifeform: trinque i rec to print out this log and reread it at your own tribunal. which will come ifnot this april, then next april, or whenever mp_en_viaje decides to rip off yer epaulettes for not coming up with 'biz plan' where you live on threepence/day to rewrite deedbot in php.
BingoBoingo: I can't expect myself to shift right away into great fiction writing. Blog's for stretching the braincase.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 06:40:40 mp_en_viaje: too heavyhanded, man, reads more like a preacher tract. gotta give the characters life of their own, not life of the story.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948678 << tyvm, the dialogue and punchline were banging around in my head for a couple hours. Had to dump it in the publish box to get the exercise in.
mp_en_viaje: "that's ok, honey. everything's better than the channel nowabouts."
mp_en_viaje: bimbo (who watched walk of shame with us yesterday, and was very miffed at the whole premise -- "that dumb bitch, they even speak her language!" ; as one who has spent days exactly in the manner there depicted but in rando orclands, she's quite entitled to the pov) : "so... umm... i published an article... it's not very good..."
asciilifeform: trinque: why would i bother to expand, if 'had contempt' ? i entirely respect the l1. which is why would like a proper, well-reasoned bullet from each remaining lord.
asciilifeform: again w/ the psychobabbles. as if i've any need to 'excuses'. i'm speaking strictly to spell out the logical implications of what mp_en_viaje said, for the thick. ( and incidentally i dun disagree w/ him, if you want to be rid not only of asciilifeform but of his ghost, you gotta rewrite it all in php, cpp, on microshit... )
trinque: rather, these things aren't even thought; they're felt and then angrily and fearfully defended.
trinque: the sad thing in your case is that you're so intelligent of a particular kind, you think it excuses you to be undeveloped in all other areas.
asciilifeform: trinque: where's the line where asciilifeform blames mp_en_viaje ( or trinque , et al ) for an item that aint done ?
asciilifeform: trinque: if you like. ( this, i learned from the master. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 10:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rright, folx going about not only using vtron, but teaching entire university course on it, while ignoring the basic logical consistency of 'i signed, i am equally responsible' aint none of my concern, aite.
asciilifeform: same goes for the trb users. (wai they not 'went over with comb' ~before~ ? it's what signing means. 'i understand what i'm signing.' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you in fact read & signed the patches of all items i touched that were put to use in smg. so per mp_en_viaje's philosophy, that makes you equal to the orig author. if the item you signed indeed was product of artful sabotage, you an' i are equally answerable .
asciilifeform: aite, diana_coman : let's then at you. did asciilifeform hypnotize you into 'wrecking' smg product ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, there is no such thing as aimed at a level; name people if you are aiming at anyone or otherwise don't just throw words about.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aimed at the whole l1, not you in particular. tho if shoe fits, can wear , if you want.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: if you are aiming that at me, then have the decency to say it to my face and with name, will you?
asciilifeform: i fully expect that the folx for whom turd turns to sausage when it is decreed from throne in 100% grammatical latin, will carry on their php rewrites, cpp rewrites, etc. w/out skipping a beat. i have nfi what they even went to 'reflect' about.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: but of course. 7y+ waste of pixels, obv. so let's then settle all the objectively unfinished biz ( trinque where is tx 5e2b91f003f4af577244005ee0fd57701a03abeae76323716d06eb71f49b7837 ? ) and be done.
mp_en_viaje: i sit here watching the redancing of a dance you danced coupla years ago, knowing full well you'll come full circle from this, as from all other positions. it's...
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in more practical considerations, today's log went from 2k words before you woke up to 4k words currently, while the snr went from 90% to 50% or so. it's not even simply the instant fact that none of your lines contribute on the desirable side -- it's that the whole show's a fucking re-run!
asciilifeform: if possible i'd like to collect all the due -10 bullets from the firing squad which 'went to reflect' 1st. but this is purely asciilifeform's aesthetic pref, obv. not necessarily will be followed. 'let those w/out sin throw 1st stone.'
asciilifeform: this is spelled out in asciilifeform's resignation, which ( as mp_en_viaje 'can't be arsed to larp!11' ) i'ma drop into deedbot when the tx clears and BB returns photos etc.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948815 << ftr ~asciilifeform~ likes his 7o of works just fine. and will continue to make'em available, and developed, in the obvious place. (for whom? for folx who get tired of 'php republic'; for folx who stuck b/w mp_en_viaje's hammer and anvil , having to actually make the systems go, while elaborately pretending to do it with properly blessed 'aryan physics' ; or for no one at al
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: actually i disagree that it's unpleasant. i fully expected you'd stall for weeks. but much better to have the firing squad when ready, and not when 'weeks of reflection', this is sumthing i think sovok got right
mp_en_viaje: entirely nothing in common with any sort of european understanding of law or legal proceeding ; he was rather the guy on the porn set going "fuck that whore"/"whop that twist" whatever, or else the dude at the frat party chanting "drink! drink!", or if you prefer the boomboxing dude behind the rappers or what have you. he was the bumstcz dude, what, like at a yupik manhut party exactly.
mp_en_viaje: otherwise, since ~literally~ 100% of the crap on the "free" and "open" anglo internet is ~LITERAL~ fucking restatement of the ~~~EXACT FUCKING SAME~~~ five line passage from harvard's 1999 offering of doubleplusgood truth&realities (if you don't count a very carefully expurgated version on "marxists.org" -- lulzily, "dog" appears exactly once ; "vulture" not at
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, i get it, it's unpleasant to wake up in the morning and read today's log. it can't be helped ; moreover, you built it, systematically an' carefully, by your very own self, an' against the opinion, advice an' as close to knock upside your dumb head as anyone managed. what can you ask of people, that they fly over and literally beat you into sense ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:31:45 mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948740 << right, the only trooly intentional act is to sit in cafe and smoke cigar made of benjies. whereas to try an' sew some sorta usable purse outta 30 yrs of 'tech market' sow's ear , is what furniture does. ( at least mp_en_viaje is 100% consistent with his greeks, aristotle would sign under this. 'kings -- intention, while work is what livestock does' .)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:19:25 mp_en_viaje: there's two major points where his idiocy conceivably sabotaged us. of this, the part where we're certainly not getting people in at the rate he sends them out is not of interest to smg.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948702 << this is pretty interesting : apparently ~asciilifeform~ 'sent'em out', and not the fuhrer issuing '-10 : insufficient commitment to revolution' like candy.
asciilifeform: ( it aint clear for what mp_en_viaje wants'em, aside from outta spite, if they're a work of sabotage; but it aint my place to ask )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:47 mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain't happening. and so following.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948771 << the 6mo i spent in '15 figuring out how to perma-remove poettering from gentoo, apparently not count. ( tho, for consistency: gentoo per se is , turns out, hypnotic scam perpetrated by asciilifeform , there's a perfectly fine!111 os you can buy from redmond, no evil craftsmen required to maintain )
asciilifeform: indeed i expect mp_en_viaje is very busy nao, what with mailing out razor blades an' page #s where asciilifeform has to be cut outta the great soviet encyclopaedia.
asciilifeform: i dun even grasp, mp_en_viaje , why mp_en_viaje et al are in 'omfg wat-do' mode. the Right Thing to do , per mp_en_viaje's handbook, and all written tradition, is ~exactly~ this.
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform in fact hypnotized people into taking up his charlatanry, then the Right Thing is a '-10 : effectively scammed me for 7y out of grip of realty' from erryone who agrees.
asciilifeform: or, even simpler, go straight to microshit, they've a ready-made stack for errything, incl. crypto, with absolutely 0 asciilifeform 'worm shite' in it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:22:55 mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
asciilifeform: so, it happens that i agree 100% with mp_en_viaje's 'wat-do' -- yes, throw out the poisoned offerings. all of'em. go to stone age circa 2013, remake yer tech stack w/ own steam ( and remember to properly steal the asciilifeform creations you can't actually do without, pick a designated aryan to assign credit. )
mp_en_viaje: making contradictory statements every other line is not called "answer" ; moreover don't strain yourself, there's unique gossipd nodes awaiting and things.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948712 << there's no chance we're going to the same hell, mp_en_viaje . we're going to different hells, aint room enuff in 1 for both of us.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: maybe, which is why bothering to answer.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:58:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:38:52 mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948747 << apparently mp's allegiance is to the inca state. with ~himself~ in role of the great inca.
asciilifeform: pretty great 1938 sovok trial going here. ( tho for some reason mp, in role of andrey vyshinsky, forgot to unplug asciilifeform's microphone ? and process the confession ? )
hanbot_abroad: anyway. ima stare sadly into the gloomy hungarian day awhile.
diana_coman: cuntoo is currently the genesis + roadmap really but at any rate, trinque's indeed.
mp_en_viaje: cuntoo iirc was trinque's work ; not so sure how it stands these days, there was some drama that didn't resolve any.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.
hanbot_abroad: and cuntoo? and the logger?
hanbot_abroad: well...what about trb then, for instance?
hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje: i would expect interaction with the republic at all and certainly immersion in l1/frequent discussions with you would cause a great deal of reflection on and revision of held beliefs/paradigms, and sure, even frequently, or many times over. it's a shame that there even exists a specific pattern that'd make this rot, rather than revision. but i guess same can be said about any decay process.
mp_en_viaje: one hour board meeting, THIS is how they go.
mp_en_viaje: alrighty then!
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'm surprisingly calm and collected but I'm weighing all sorts; and yes, I would rather give it a few days.
mp_en_viaje: anyways ; i suspect now you're adequately impregnated with my wrath, i guess give it a day or two see what the night mind dredges up ?
mp_en_viaje: quite fucking poisoned. look how far they took us!
mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain't happening. and so following.
mp_en_viaje: i intend to cut as much as possible fo worm off the hook, and i'm rather willing to take zero than any hook.
mp_en_viaje: the objection, in short, is not that the worm's not delicious, but that the worm's just bait.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:58:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".
mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings
mp_en_viaje: so no, there wasn't any line drawn in the sand on the basis of trying to quadrate the circle and throwing tangents at a dangerous idiot.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.
mp_en_viaje: and if you've got the time, and the money, "1-1.5 bitcoin (today, of course ; the fuckface doesn't happen to think he DID NOT say 1-1.5 bitcoin back when he took the quote from) he'll take you for another spin.
mp_en_viaje: except, of course, once he reaches midway. then he starts decelerating ; and he decelerates even faster.
mp_en_viaje: but, see, it's a circle. past the perihelion he's coming back, so it'll ~seem~ like that "woke him up"
mp_en_viaje: at which juncture you might even point the situation out : look, you moron, you are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED, what the fuck bs you're talking.
mp_en_viaje: then, at some point, his circular motion actually takes him to diametrically opposed pole to the original tangent point
mp_en_viaje: then he starts moving down his circle. and you notice there's a difference ; if you attempt to discuss it, he'll make the cost of measuring the infinitesimal difference (which nevertheless keeps growing, and at an ever faster pace) infinitely large
mp_en_viaje: at any given point, if ~you~ draw a line, he'll translate over the place, such that your line is a tangent. and you think, naively, "oh, this man's line and my line are clearly, look, colinear"
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, to use the geometric terminology you introduced : alf never in his life walked a line. what he does is, he spins a circle.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you want me to look at alternatives there? at the very least to see what/how/any?
hanbot_abroad: i thought what's here is basically a line drawn in the sand, 'will stand no further than this'.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, throwing out the bread works if that's what happened.
mp_en_viaje: unless, of course, in the fractally moronic manner in which he's inhabituated us to expect things to "work", there's a barb in there somewhere.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: in hardware terms, the recent tests re deploying server showed at least that we are not married to any specific arch so I'd say that part should not be a problem
mp_en_viaje: they're self-evidently all the same "person", if you can call it that. basically, i'm dealing with the same spam script run wild that's ruined western natural sciences.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.
mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:21:04 mp_en_viaje: because he has sexier things to do than what you need ; and, importantly, because this is WHY he wanted to be a "craftsman" in the first place, and why attempted to scam you into buying custom, rather than standard items : so as to fuck you over by doing "sexier things", because in his broken mind the very thing that impels the "craftsman" misbehaviour also looks at your damage as implicit justification -- in that
mp_en_viaje: my first attempt at cutting the gordian knot, on the assumption it's all rot, failed, on the merits.
diana_coman: well, there IS on one hand the FFA gem that has however come after the initial projection that he'll do consulting for smg and so I'll have what to use rather than write eucrypt with the salvaged-mpi (though he salvaged that at least)
mp_en_viaje: now, as we stand, he might've infected us with enough stupid to simply die, specifically in the form of such teoria chibritului hardware and software stacks.
mp_en_viaje: but the part where in order to do thing x, you first have to do step 1, and in order to do step 1 you first have to do steps 1.1 and 1.2 ; and in order to do step 1.1 you first have to do steps 1.1.1, 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 staqu-quo protection very much IS.
mp_en_viaje: there's two major points where his idiocy conceivably sabotaged us. of this, the part where we're certainly not getting people in at the rate he sends them out is not of interest to smg.
mp_en_viaje: we'll leave the matter of ~why~ "couldn't figure out" for the 3rd discussion, in group ; as we'll leave the assorted bits and ends, how other than whatever the idiot is doing to sabotage himself, with his "circumspect" "conservative" approach every time he should press an advantage, wasting the time so when shit hits the fan, as shit always hits the fan, he can just be sad instead of ciercumspect, and oh, if only the world were
diana_coman: at the point with ben_vulpes I admit I couldn't figure out who was really messing up more there, honestly.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 21:11:14 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
mp_en_viaje: then ben_vulpes stepped in, and most of what he heard, for years thence, was "oh, you were so underslept you forgot one bag" ; never "i was such a moron, you had to fly on short notice, i guess ~I~ forgot your bag"
mp_en_viaje: yeah, basically he kept dithering in typical fashion, "being conservative" or whatever, being a moron, and the guy simply couldn't get the geat before flight time
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: sure, just not fully clear on what there; but I'm all ears
mp_en_viaje: aite, wanna move on to the smg discussion ?
mp_en_viaje: too heavyhanded, man, reads more like a preacher tract. gotta give the characters life of their own, not life of the story.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/30/the-fucking-election-a-halloween-special/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- The Fucking Election - A Halloween Special
mp_en_viaje: odd what the interwebs consumer gets stuck on.
mp_en_viaje: lol the peanut gallery on trilema.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 20:49:54 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 04:43:51 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the search results piece (with the auto-delete-old-results functionality) complete.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, your expression of interest was when the thing went from an idea bouncing around in my headcase to a suspected good idea.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: meanwhile ( per tradition of asciilifeform's homeworld ) here is my resignation. mp_en_viaje can unseal if he wishes, or wait until march or whatever fits his aesthetics.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect to sign the final inventory today, after BingoBoingo cuts my seals and inspects the inside of the 'dulap's.
BingoBoingo: It is one of these sort of suspicions http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/#footnote_0_3068
BingoBoingo: At this point its just the suspicion
mp_en_viaje: i dunno how you'd judge the more thoroughly, but...
BingoBoingo: But I do suspect the datacenter space is more thoroughly infected with cancer than the legal space.
BingoBoingo: The sort of readinging and work required feels like it is more... inside my wheelhouse. Paralegaling can also be done in LATAM where if seem more effective than I'll be anywhere else in the world for at least the first 12-18 months.
BingoBoingo: My though with offering a short course is that it allows for a degree of screening and mutual auditioning before committing to take on an apprentice while other folks can refer their students with the specific aim of getting drilled into producing some journalistic reports.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Having seen the folks diana_coman is catching in her school house and the issues they have with tight writing, I am inclined to draft an offering for a journalism short course. Maybe I catch some of my own students, maybe I get some referrals from diana_coman and others looking to tighten up the prose of their catches.
diana_coman: the list + timing makes sense to me; I'm still digesting but onth I'd say latest next week is better than letting it drag any longer; while there might be no rush, there is also no gain that I can see in waiting longer than that.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/#comment-128248 << march, heh.
mp_en_viaje: but i propose we carry those in some order later this week / next, post digestion. there's, after all, exactly no more rush nowadays.
mp_en_viaje: with diana_coman as to the future strategy of s.mg (which normally'd belong in eulora, i suppose, but honestly might as well happen here, not like there's any traffic jam or anything) ; and of course with diana_coman hanbot trinque BingoBoingo lobbes spyked bvt ave1 as to what exactly we still want and we can in fact support going forward.
mp_en_viaje: the heaviness of nothing notwithstanding, it is self-evident we'll have to carry some conversations in the coming days : with BingoBoingo re the future shape of qntra (which iirc was sorta-open but then put into what at the time was intended to be a brief abeyance) ;
mp_en_viaje: will take some spelunking, but i suspect further unhappy interactions among the tower of shit leading to the result.
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi where it's even set ; god knows the db itself defaults to open.
diana_coman: ugh; good to know at least but shouldn't the default status be open for comments?
mp_en_viaje: so, if you ever end up publishing half an article because your connection died mid-publish for w/e reason, and as a result your article's comments are closed -- the one pill is to edit the db, set comment_status & ping_status to "open" again.
mp_en_viaje: and then there's ~little other than directly editing the db that the author can do to un-do this setting.
mp_en_viaje: e open or not come AFTER the body of the article, and as the default is closed...welll... they'll thus be closed.
mp_en_viaje: as it turns out, mp-wp has a ... well, i dunno, i hesitate to call it a bug. it has the following issue : if the publishing of an article (which is itself handled as a http post) gets interrupted for whatever reason (such as the connection dying, the closing packet being waylaid, anything), the article will still be publioshed, partially, ie what made it there ; however because various settings (notably, whether comments etc) ar
mp_en_viaje: bah, and back to the "closed comments" bs i see, wtf. brb gotts fix this
diana_coman: must be the lightness of nothing that weighs too much, yes.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/i-suppose-we-could-call-this-a-state-of-the-sadness-or-other-things/ << Trilema -- I suppose we could call this a State of the Sadness ; or other things
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948610 << lol, BingoBoingo teaching by example. somewhat reminiscent of a fantastical counterpoint to the traditional ro "ionica cel prost", "here, coz, how fucking goes"
BingoBoingo: Because the meddling commies destroying opportunity to make the poor poorer was "lo mejor"
BingoBoingo: "No nos vamos a perder lo mejor" was the losing campaign slogan.
BingoBoingo: What seemed to have happened after that turd got passed was a lot of live in domestic servants got kicked into the street if their employer wasn't fucking them. Derps who could afford it instead went to cleaning agencies. A handful of folks who aren't braindamaged simply have more girlfriends. Overall the number of bipeds getting compensation for doing something dropped.
BingoBoingo: No one does outside of some retards. There's a whole bunch of cancer that made it in print that might as well come off because... Really?
mp_en_viaje: who the fuck in his right mind would report this, what the fuck. what next, register your mistresses with the national prostitution... orifice ?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other lulz, http://ligadeamasdecasa.com.uy/preguntas-frecuentes/ << the syndicate of housewives, consumers an' users of the oriental republic has complex rules an' notions.
BingoBoingo: It's apparently how Antel refers to certified telegrams. Derps had to use Antel for this because they apparently aren't a sufficiently complete telecom to have their own telegraph service.
BingoBoingo: Will do and append to the inventory post.
mp_en_viaje: i meant take a pic of the artefact
BingoBoingo: "Rechazamos el TCCPC recibido el 22/10/19 y las imputaciones alli realizadas. Asimismo, intimamos pago de pago de precio convenido segun clausula 8 y anexos del contrato marco de servicios de technologia,"... Wank, wank, wank they want paid on a schedule now FASTER than spec'd in the contract for not doing what they promised in the contract.
diana_coman: possibly they expect it's scary enough if it's "telegram!!!"
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Not service. Bluster of the "do what we say" flavor.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 16:04:39 BingoBoingo: Apologies for the delay. I had to step away from the inventorying task to pick up a telegram at the Cowork. Dated Friday 18:16 hours... They want money and they want it on a schedule incompatible with the contract they've breached to hell! This is going to be very fun!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948564 << lol wait, you got served meanwhile ? was it by the very auditioning firm for maxlulz ?
mp_en_viaje: would prolly not have occured to me in another six months
mp_en_viaje: in unrelated news, after week+ of cluelesness i finally comprehended the fucking intended usage of my new cam (as it happens, by watching teeny monkey at work) -- the rabatable viewport IS THERE SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR OWN PICTURE
diana_coman: aha; and here appointment online but then queue anyway... outside the building too and a guy giving frantic directions, it was something.
mp_en_viaje: magically got the "appointment to apply" or w/e the fuck the next day, but in general...
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: not the criteria by itself anymore at the time he was born,no; it was some additional years
mp_en_viaje: neways, the rotards are something the fuck else. i had to sick my people on them, because otherwise they have this nominally "passport in 2 weeks, no need of ye olde expediency fees", to be in line with the eu ; but then... waiting lists for the 2 week term to start, stretching like 3 months.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no, he's not because neither parent is uk citizen
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no, in london but the romanian consulate is 200% a piece of romania indeed
diana_coman: it's a romanian example of applying eu rules I suppose; I guess I'll have to write-it up as it's too surreal, only the old italian-embassy experience beats it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 13:34:53 BingoBoingo: has been so occupied with cleanup that forgot Qntra crossed into 5 years of, not interupted, operation on the second of this month.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I suspect the lack of pings is a shortcoming of the way I set up the LAMP on the lifeboat. I will investigate it, probably later this week.
BingoBoingo: Apologies for the delay. I had to step away from the inventorying task to pick up a telegram at the Cowork. Dated Friday 18:16 hours... They want money and they want it on a schedule incompatible with the contract they've breached to hell! This is going to be very fun!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 06:44:58 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, why is it just so hard for theses folks ? check this shit out : http://younghands.club/2019/10/28/jfw-plan-week-of-oct-28/?b=Inves&e=#comment-59
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948437 - oh boy; because he didn't read properly how the thing works, obviously; at any rate, he'll fix it, read the manual and stop doing the shit, yes.
asciilifeform: again with the phlogistons eh.
mp_en_viaje: even if the moron's decided he will drink self to death.
mp_en_viaje: if the father tells his drunkard son that he's getting cut off unless he stops drinking, the father's not telling the moron he's getting cut off.
asciilifeform: fwiw mp_en_viaje made it quite clear in june '19 that he intends to close snsa. and this was part of the reason why i set up private rack, it will host phuctor in-exile, asciilifeform's www, and anyone else who has the courage and dun insist on marionette control of the entire thing simply as condition of hosting a box or 2.
mp_en_viaje: are you so ahead in the management of your own affairs you now wish to undertake a portion of mine, or what exactly is it ?
asciilifeform: last i knew, she agreed on the price and was intending to pay.
asciilifeform: re 'play dc', asciilifeform's 'evil, useless dc' will be there 1y, 2y, from nao. and open to anyone of asciilifeform's l1 who wants, even mp_en_viaje.
mp_en_viaje: aite, so then that's done.
mp_en_viaje: then what are we talking about here ?
asciilifeform: also i hate to piss on mp_en_viaje's freudian parade, but i haven't got 'self image' or whatever other nonsense phlogistons tlp et al persuaded mp_en_viaje of existing.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the only missing piece is BingoBoingo's count of the items currently in his flat. after it matches mine, will sign.
mp_en_viaje: now take all that effort wasted in the protection of a futile self-image, and put it in the making of a proper thing you can live with for years to come, namely the closing inventory of s.nsa
mp_en_viaje: your kneejerk responses take ammendments six cases of seven or thereabouts also.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-28 17:01:31 asciilifeform: this afaik completes the list.
mp_en_viaje: i'd much rather not have to link a logline -- or five.
mp_en_viaje: certainly, i'll be in the closing papers.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform worx 14h+ days. mp_en_viaje sits in cabaret and smokes 100$ bills. but somehow the former is 'avatar of lazy', eh.
mp_en_viaje: write an item, "this is what s.nsa owns in my hands as things stand", puybluish it , in one piece, somewhere you can answer for being accesdsible in a few weeks and there you go.
mp_en_viaje: do you aim to become the avatar of earthy laziness or something ?
mp_en_viaje: why the hell does everything with you haver to be done soddily, half way, ill considered, as best fits immanture momentary convenience and so on ?
asciilifeform: the blog mp_en_viaje dun read? lol
mp_en_viaje: you could publish the damned thing on your own blog, like a sane person.
mp_en_viaje: the logs is your venue ?
asciilifeform: this afaik completes the list.
asciilifeform: m.uy nor usps seem to know where they are ;
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there are 4 FG here; 12 spare analogue boards. at piz there is a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781749 , a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781753 , and 34 FG (that were sold to piz, and i have still nfi whether mp_en_viaje wanted'em back physically or as coin.) there also were 4 x 256GB mostly spent ssds, they are in the mail and i've nfi whether will see'em again, neither correo.co
mp_en_viaje: look, you either produce an inventory or don't produce an inventory. stop whining about it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: plox to gen an' sign that addr. otherwise if there aint a hole into which asciilifeform can pay, i suspect even the still-hypnotized folx won't buy then 'ran off!111' .
BingoBoingo has been so occupied with cleanup that forgot Qntra crossed into 5 years of, not interupted, operation on the second of this month.
asciilifeform: ts it renamed ) , all other asciilifeform agenda items will continue even if errybody joins in the firing squad.
asciilifeform: moar alive nao than ever. as for mp_en_viaje , plox to post the signed addr. piz liquidators, plox to take proceedings to #p. folx who intend to continue to crib off asciilifeform's work, which continues, or want functioning hosting : to #a. (which i'ma take is no longer official mp castle, i'ma take off the sign shortly.) next gen of FG will still be produced, on asciilifeform's dime ( and i'ma respect mp_en_viaje's wishes if he wan
mp_en_viaje: now lay of le dramatique, and go back to waiting for your real life to begin, i've no further interest.
mp_en_viaje: yeah, that'll be a sight to behold, the only gossipd node.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 15:42:42 mp_en_viaje: i barfed at the line quoted ; the loper-os page is still loaded in the browser but i guess ima get to it in a year or w/e. like with newspapers, you know, antiquarian interest.
asciilifeform: as for this -- can read nao, or never, or year later, will still be there, when asciilifeform operating the only 'gossip' hosting backbone-sitting isp, and mp_en_viaje excommunicated 5 moar people for failing to lay atlantic fibers for him, and still has none.
asciilifeform: that being said, let's make it faster , iirc mp_en_viaje valued the snsa gear at piz at 0.9. invoice asciilifeform for 0.9, i'm already warming up cold wallet to pay mp_en_viaje the earlier 0.3 invoice .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: explain what diff it oughta make to asciilifeform whether gets fraudulent '-10 : ran off with the gear' or '-10 : ferrocranium refused to go on isp suicide mission' from mp_en_viaje ?
mp_en_viaje: to put it plainly, apparently your ferrocranium's particularly truculent this evening : if you do not fucking produce it, i will simply say you ran off with the gear. are we clear or wtf ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the inventory's in piz.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re snsa, it was always yours to do with as you wanted, was structured in such a way (w/ the e.g. 'mpex fee' exponential growth) that asciilifeform was guaranteed never to see a bitcent from it. ( and knew this; worked w/ mp_en_viaje strictly outta principle. )
mp_en_viaje: she conceivably assigns demosthenes of rhodes to some children, doesn't now mean ima partnership in geometry with early greeks
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: might want to let diana_coman know, to 'stop follow the amateur exertions', she's been assigning e.g. 'v.py' as homework.
mp_en_viaje: nor is there much cause to keep up the s.nsa pretense, it is, by your own words now completing your own actions, a hollow shell.
mp_en_viaje: i'll read it eventually ; but there's no interest now, as there was no interest then, in following your amateur exertions, so assumed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The lesson of this month is that the non-performance of the derps in the basement didn't have to be a fatal blow to Pizarro. Our failures to sell and find some leverage in the selling by expanding the l2, created the conditions that turned into into a coup de grace.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can persuade to read ? can then barf correctly. ( the #s dun lie, in fact show what intake can expect per subscriber, etc. ) even if you build own isp, the ~same mechanics will apply.
mp_en_viaje: i barfed at the line quoted ; the loper-os page is still loaded in the browser but i guess ima get to it in a year or w/e. like with newspapers, you know, antiquarian interest.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 10:56:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947781 << atm writing lengthy piece re subj (expecting to post fri/sat) and would rather not clutter the log w/ figures until then
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 16:57:34 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947800 << /me shall read this sunday, then.
mp_en_viaje: "phase 5", help me rwanda. if you buy 5 it'll be 5 and if not it'll be 625 or 32598049853049 phases. just as long as it dun involve any eh what the hell's the point, it;s been talked to death already.
mp_en_viaje: which, after all, is the point.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: With the level of repeating involved I had suspicions.
mp_en_viaje: tyvm, five years of it are good enough. asciilifeform can do whatever the fuck he feels like while waiting for his real life to really begin, dun need me or anyone else for any of that.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 12:30:42 BingoBoingo: Now "I refuse to take outside capital until the rack's current cost basis is covered and a conversion engine is running" is a different position.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-28#1948460 << i'm not interested in "patching over", it'll just be another version of ye perennial "what's the absolute minimum i can do so as to just barely squeak by the standard without actually doing it".
mp_en_viaje: half dozen fucking statements of ~same~ thing within the past ~two weeks.