benkay: it's now 100
benkay: i bought atc at 150
benkay: like
benkay: i want bad trade insurance
benkay: no, you will.
benkay: oi
benkay: furthermore, the problem you're trying to solve is not actually a problem. it's a flaw in your perceptions of trading.
benkay: deanclkclk: you're unfortunately trading on exchanges run by derpy web developers that don't match orders like professionals, and so you come to the conclusion that order matching is a) a hard problem and b) something you're qualified to handle.
benkay: deanclkclk: why does this matter?
benkay: it is completely unspecial.
benkay: deanclkclk: matching the lowest ask and highest bid is the baseline for an exchange.
benkay: so this is not an open problem
benkay: well it's a zero sum game, homie
benkay: HE'S INVENTED THE ORDER BOOK
benkay: YOU GUYS
benkay: nope. do not understand. i must be idiots.
benkay: happy times.
benkay: mmm yes.
benkay: not moving to argentina, i gather.
benkay: it's a low-rez jpeg and they're small!
benkay: mircea_popescu: that's a strainer.
benkay: psh
benkay: the tikooni
benkay: although if you foot the bill for travel to romania you can have a go at talking her into your dungeon.
benkay: she's already on payroll over here.
benkay: that was her!
benkay: mjr_: pm
benkay: you could've jumped straight to the mockery!
benkay: if you'd read the gist it woulda saved so much time mircea_popescu
benkay: i think the ltcmgmt is great!
benkay: you're in the litecoin biz nao
benkay: nope
benkay: that's what i read
benkay: litecoin management lol mjr_
benkay: well, sweeping now but general domesticity. what's the domain?
benkay: hackin migration scripts, watching the babe do dishes in heels
benkay: mircea_popescu: i pointed this out already.
benkay: yo mjr_ what's up
benkay: venice et al pwn the us anyways
benkay: notrly.
benkay: rigorous engineering?
benkay: crypto minds deployed against it, for sure
benkay: not broken, for sure
benkay: sophisticated engineering project it ain't
benkay: francis_wolke: have you read the source?
benkay: mircea_popescu: on the subject of the feed you've been yammering at me about
benkay: ;)
benkay: but hey you're a lisper so i likely won't get downright mean
benkay: also your feelings don't really factor into whether or not i take you to the woodshed
benkay: dog ams need romp
benkay: mebbe later
benkay: "if the nsa cannot" oh my lols
benkay: and RLE is a symptom of the too much money problem
benkay: in that frame, why would anyone smart enough to read the implications of a non-state ultimately fungible currency align themselves with a state that's doomed?
benkay: buuuuut it's just vastly more likely that bitcoin will shatter all fiat states than support their continued reign.
benkay: also you're missing the part where the state isn't really its own agent but more accurately a tool of the ultra-capitalized who will be the main beneficiaries of RLE in any event.
benkay: more specifically, why will rle require state support?
benkay: why?
benkay: halp i'm frying too much potato
benkay: why buy debt when someone's going to come along and break your tablets shortly thereafter?
benkay: not caffinated yet
benkay: oh excuse me that was meant for my repl
benkay: (format "butts %s %s" "foo" \n)
benkay: slow day, dexX7?
benkay: pretty lulzy
benkay: deploy capital
benkay: spring bubble hasn't kicked in terribly hard yet
benkay: i dunno moiety, you might be able to talk your way into a zero interest loan
benkay: afternoon
benkay: punkman1: nowhere on that page is there mention of bitcoin. you should fix that.
benkay: induction is irresistable
benkay: some of the goat's posts ocassionally get 'edited'
benkay: not until you give us more music videos
benkay: ?
benkay: it's horrible
benkay: -g
benkay: what the fuck is wrong with you two
benkay: engineering can never be a copy/paste affair.
benkay: learning the lambda business is a good idea anyways herbijudlestoids
benkay: (defun higher-order-function-for-passing (thinger) (inc thinger))
benkay: i'm going for a slice of pizza
benkay: el oh el everything's a scam
benkay: it's kinda crazy there's nowhere you can point and be like "look: notional float adds up simply"
benkay: hl?
benkay: who's responsible for keeping track of that?
benkay: how much of your ipo have you sold, the20year1?
benkay: us-pacific tz
benkay: let me know if you need ops support ;)
benkay: congrats herbi, we just fired a client.
benkay: did you hear about the kid who got sent away for more than just one night for getting sarcastic on the internet?
benkay: nah, right in line with predictions.
benkay: polizei in america
benkay: a bicycle?
benkay: a coupla chainsaws mebbe
benkay: ;;market sell KRS-One
benkay: as in does what ams said on tin?
benkay: does namecoin work?
benkay: MisterE: better to assume everything's a scam but Bitcoin.
benkay: also lulzy
benkay: hope and socialism and a couple million bucks might get you a market.
benkay: ;;ticker --market mtgox
benkay: leave those jurisdictions, then.
benkay: big problem.
benkay: much informative!
benkay: pretty astonishing number of coins hitting these mktplacen
benkay: that's the kind of home remodeling i can get into...
benkay: pankkake: i want to sleep in a completely-blacked out room that spins up the lights with the daylight.
benkay: had so much energy, it was amazing.
benkay: made me so dang happy!
benkay: shitloads of flux, tuned for summer spectrum
benkay: we'd work until 8, 9 pm before realizing it was dark outside
benkay: we installed one in a shop of mine once
benkay: i'm a huge fan of the pot lights
benkay: think also of all the energy recoverable from the mass headed towards the landfill
benkay: so america
benkay: oh god
benkay: "i can still remember when/the us used to get shit done"
benkay: long long time ago
benkay: is it so surprising, though mircea_popescu? the us is the land of 'get rich quick accidentally'. people don't understand the world at all, so anything mysterious might make them rich as they don't understand things to begin with.
benkay: yeah i got there eventually
benkay: the depths of my ignorance...
benkay: wtf are you on about
benkay: waterfall as in 'software mgmt'?
benkay: fire and waterfall?
benkay: IT HAS ROCKETS AND LASERS AND SHIT
benkay: FUKKEN YEAH
benkay: i might just mandate that television watching happens on that thing in the corner.
benkay: although babes want to consume television in various places around the house
benkay: yeah
benkay: some day shortly after that i'm ditching laptops as a 'work' machine.
benkay: mircea_popescu: some day this year we'll be able to afford an office
benkay: i'm pretty sure my environment's attitude to me is "fuck you" anyways.
benkay: "engineers"
benkay: mircea_popescu: us derpy web and interaction engineers
benkay: "oh and also we added new widgets to the UI and forced a push out to all boxen so here you go now your perfectly serviceable 2 year old device runs at 1/4 speed because ACCELEROMETER-CONNECTED UI WIDGETRY"
benkay: classic hedonic treadmill
benkay: new laptops every year
benkay: *raaaage*
benkay: another 2 hour vm provisioning killed because apple kills the wifi card when the display goes off.
benkay: BingoBoingo: how much Satoshi have you collated?
benkay: moiety: why not spin up a new cmd window?
benkay: mike_c: using and extending the protocol is a non-starter right now. first we need a rock-solid, well-defined thing.
benkay: BingoBoingo ^^
benkay: hell no
benkay: ?
benkay: computation itself.
benkay: mike_c: are you satisfied with <asciilifeform> the only truly unambiguous definition of a computation is the
benkay: for sensible, constrained declarations of a) network client behaviors and b) blockchain parsing
benkay: asciilifeform!
benkay: no man bitcoin is in feature freeze
benkay: mike_c: is that a reference to the Python Enhancement Proposal?
benkay: ^^ mike_c
benkay: oh you decided on PEPs did you?
benkay: back
benkay: lissen mike_c i gotta dip a few blocks over to a nerd thing i'll be back online in like 20 or 30 minutes
benkay: not even the part where you guarantee their security yourself as the buying party.
benkay: BingoBoingo: yeah, like the part where you buy 'em.
benkay: you lost me at crowdfunded baby
benkay: bitcoin is most emphatically not for dilletantes.
benkay: arguably, if you can't figure it out you shouldn't be fucking with it, and if you can't spend the time to learn the notation ditto.
benkay: algebra is entirely acceptable for the spec of both network protocol and blockchain parsing.
benkay: ping mike_c
benkay: i went to the bathroom
benkay: mike_c: it's the difference between algebra and java.
benkay: except a CPP hairball is not a formal definition, and BNF is, well, a formal definition.
benkay: or something industry hardened like BNF
benkay: try Ragel.
benkay: oh god ibm
benkay: mike_c: you can compile a formally defined state machine into a parser in the language of your choice. it's not an academic exercise.
benkay: 'cause WHOOO BOY have you read the textual spec?
benkay: the english definition's been written by those who are capable of writing english definitions and not state machines, and its time for someone to write the state machine
benkay: and maybe most should?
benkay: ^^
benkay: transition to state: getblocks | state: getaddrs
benkay: transition to state: exchange version messages
benkay: state: init
benkay: i'd rather take the network client actually
benkay: or it would be if anyone would write it
benkay: it's a formal definition of bitcoin, as opposed to the ad-hoc cpp hairball-as-canonical-thinger
benkay: what's more, a state machine approach satisfies the "spec" that mircea_popescu has been going on for lo these many forevers
benkay: i believe (and i'm open to suggestions and corrections from those wiser and more experienced than myself) that the appropriate implementation path for both the blockchain validatoin and the network client is a state machine describing the valid states of the validator and network client respectively, the messages they can process and what states those messages kick each machine into
benkay: in any event
benkay: (outta my face - where's the source?!?!)
benkay: indeed
benkay: and then there's blockchain validation
benkay: there's the network client, the thing responsible for connecting to the bitcoin/litecoin/altcoin network downloading blocks and broadcasting txns
benkay: if i might offer a different perspective, there are several disparate concerns that could be tackled independently and independent of language wars.
benkay: baw haw haw javascript anything i cry
benkay: decimation if you like forth you'll love green arrays
benkay: lisp zeroth
benkay: herp.
benkay: THERE IS NO FORMAL DEFINITION OF THE NETWORK PROTOCOL
benkay: besides
benkay: nor do i, but it's clearly the right thing to do and an extremely useful tool to know (BNF, that is)
benkay: it stands for Professional Hardcore Programmers for a reason, mang.
benkay: hey BingoBoingo you stop talking shit on PHP okay?
benkay: decimation: are you interested in working on a BNF rendering of the bitcoin network protocol?
benkay: plus the moles might get to slip some bullshit into the newer client protocol
benkay: "90% of your 20s are made in NK"
benkay: another conspiracy theory to hasten the demise of the tyrant
benkay: buuuuwaaaaaaat
benkay: good luck selling any.
benkay: that'd entail knowing what slippage *is*
benkay: well of course it couldn't possibly account for slippage
benkay: 'my feeelingsssss'
benkay: repression of the people, iirc.
benkay: that list is better regarded as "how much money this ccoin has sucked out of fiat"
benkay: for clarity - there is no movement.
benkay: ?
benkay: except maybe the one i left in the toilet this morning - now that was impressive.
benkay: there is no movement.
benkay: cascadia now
benkay: death to the tyrant
benkay: chase? hunt.
benkay: surely you know the routine
benkay: but also it's the chase mircea_popescu the chase and the conquest
benkay: yeah also nowhere near well enough capitalized to dress 'em all nicely either
benkay: man the worst part of working at a cafe with a great view on a busy corner is all the tail walking by i'm separated from talking to by a pane of glass
benkay: something like that
benkay: grownup trolling.
benkay: 'tain't too late to spin up a new one.
benkay: the former
benkay: !b 9
benkay: that's good. a sign of competence, being nice.
benkay: oh he's nice
benkay: you already own the low-returns market!
benkay: PIFF is the place for low returns!
benkay: what were you thinking!
benkay: no but now you can castigate him for ignoring the bitlord
benkay: pankkake: you gotta link greg to the bitcointalk post where MP and smickles expose the btc.sx scam
benkay: ahahahahahahaha dr greg loses it all on btc.sx
benkay: wow
benkay: much no
benkay: so sad
benkay: :(
benkay: bitcoin payments to the world's largest fuck-your-copyright stash of porn is a cool thing to build
benkay: yeah too bad content delivery is totes a solved thing
benkay: mine's better.
benkay: .bait
benkay: the integral of the porn production curve is a SHITLOAD OF PORN