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(trilema) nubbins`: but luckily all the connections are rose joints and there's *just* enough clearance for the thing to still work
(trilema) nubbins`: the fuckers quite obviously dropped the thing on the ground when packaging, one of the bolts is severely bent
(trilema) nubbins` searches for pic
(trilema) nubbins`: and it FITS LIKE A GLOVE
(trilema) nubbins`: only had to drill two holes through 1.4" aluminum to install
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, meantime, i purchased a micro-registration head for the t-shirt press, to evaluate
(trilema) nubbins`: o no doubt
(trilema) nubbins`: "i'll have the steak sandwich" (server takes out heavy maul and nice steak)
(trilema) nubbins`: i found this to be almost the rule in peru, wondered if the epidemic was more widespread
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu do you find that argentinians mallet the fuck out of steaks?
(trilema) nubbins`: "don't touch black things because they might be hot enough to send you to the hospital" :D
(trilema) nubbins`: many of the lessons learned inside the kitchen are uniquely inapplicable outside, as well.
(trilema) nubbins`: which is a really nice feature for your employees to have
(trilema) nubbins`: but because it implies the holder is willing to waste time in pursuit of a "maybe"
(trilema) nubbins`: not because it implies skill or suitability for the position
(trilema) nubbins`: for the same reason the places hiring programmers care about the B.Sc.
(trilema) nubbins`: *we* don't, the restauranteurs do
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform the space of "humans who grok their fields" is ever-shrinking
(trilema) nubbins`: nor to condemn myself to working in restaurant kitchens
(trilema) nubbins`: but because i don't have the patience to earn the red seal
(trilema) nubbins`: not because of lack of skill -- i put my way through university cooking and i can blow any self-described "chef" outta the water
(trilema) nubbins`: TBF i don't think i have a chance as a chef anyway
(trilema) nubbins`: it would be my sad
(trilema) nubbins`: different specie
(trilema) nubbins`: naw. aspiring famous chefs.
(trilema) nubbins`: TBF this gave me a serious case of the o.Os
(trilema) nubbins`: ever watch "hell's kitchen"? it's not uncommon for "contestants" to be unable to distinguish pork from chicken by taste alone
(trilema) nubbins`: guy aces 11 of the 12, declares 12th to be "X or Y", and sure enough it was X
(trilema) nubbins`: so the old man brings in 12 wooden blanks for turning pens, and a blindfold.
(trilema) nubbins`: my old man used to work with this guy who claimed he could identify ~12 species of wood by smell alone
(trilema) nubbins`: skills like this, i have a soft spot for
(trilema) nubbins`: "tastes like lychee" "wtf does lychee taste like?" "let's go to the grocery store..."
(trilema) nubbins`: with a decade and a half of wine tasting under his belt
(trilema) nubbins`: guy's maybe 32 years old
(trilema) nubbins`: but srs, i've given a glass of wine to a L2 sommelier and he told me /which country and which grape/ it was made from
(trilema) nubbins`: your friends tend to come in 750mL bottles
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu being a sommelier is pretty boring.
(trilema) nubbins`: williamdunne sommelier = wine guy
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, agreed 100%
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, and here i am on wine
(trilema) nubbins`: if you see an old man at the grocery store, walking around the produce section and picking up and smelling EVERYTHING, they're probably a sommelier
(trilema) nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112663 << being a sommelier is more about developing your tongue and nose than about memorizing the taste of x different types of wines
(trilema) nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112284 << you'd be surprised at how little LSD this takes
(trilema) nubbins`: this is like being arrested by a cop with a tin badge
(trilema) nubbins`: is it SOP for the sig to be invalid?
(trilema) nubbins`: that's what the lady said to the sailor
(trilema) nubbins`: hm can i see all my rates?
(trilema) nubbins`: !v assbot:nubbins`.rate.asciilifeform.2:d6bd61a27260f1bbef53b20794d9eba79a899e2052ebb45aebfe9bea45b1937a
(trilema) nubbins`: !rate asciilifeform 2 capable wizard, does things
(trilema) nubbins`: <Severity>Normal</Severity> <<< phew
(trilema) nubbins`: aww, they have their own infringement XML schema
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ lelelel there's ONE google result
(trilema) nubbins`: 0xDE4B33712DAACFD6
(trilema) nubbins`: funny how that works?
(trilema) nubbins`: and i have explicitly not been notified of any infringement activity
(trilema) nubbins`: so into the trash it goes
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform unfortunately, sprayed-on PGP indicates to me that this email is fraudulent
(trilema) nubbins`: well, they come "pgp"-"signed"/
(trilema) nubbins`: SOOOOO guess i'm gonna go ahead and ignore
(trilema) nubbins`: but... gpg: BAD signature from "IP-Echelon Compliance <compliance@ip-echelon.com>"
(trilema) nubbins`: of note: the text of the notice was PGP-signed
(trilema) nubbins` received a copyright infringement notice from his ISP on behalf of HBO yesterday
(trilema) nubbins`: busy week for me, how was c3?
(trilema) nubbins`: oh right, yeah
(trilema) nubbins`: ascii_field your average bezzle cubicle dweller prob spends 25% of gross income on food
(trilema) nubbins`: but i'm of the opinion that very few adult north americans have even the faintest idea of how to feed themselves properly, let alone on a sensible budget
(trilema) nubbins`: nor do people live on big macs alone
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, i understood smth?
(trilema) nubbins`: that said, i'm pretty sure a 15kg bag of rice doesn't cost much more than a few shit sandwiches from mcd's anywhere in north america
(trilema) nubbins`: <+ascii_field> (i do not consider eating genuine, vs. recycled food, a luxury. just as air on a space capsule is not a luxury, even if it costs what gold costs down on earth) <<< i don't fully buy into the "it's cheaper to eat shitty" mentality, but it's my understanding that the dynamics involved therein are vastly different in your country
(trilema) nubbins`: <+ascii_field> <mircea_popescu> and YET you protest the hyena << so i had a quiet and physically clean upbringing. this is who i am. i get that it gives me a short life expectancy, yes. but jumping from cliffs doesn't grow wings, no. <<< the sets of {co-inhabitants} and {dirtbags} don't have as complete an overlap as you'd think
(trilema) nubbins`: <+adlai> like satoshi without MSVC <<< my kingdom for some more sides
(trilema) nubbins`: <+ascii_field> nubbins`: if i worked in a cubicle, the last thing i would do is buy a pogo and mess with it << what did you buy and play with instead? a nagant, testing how it feels in the mouth, as in mircea_popescu's 'dulap' story ? <<< not in so many words :P
(trilema) nubbins`: self-highfive
(trilema) nubbins`: which... o/
(trilema) nubbins`: i am, however, seeing Lightning Bolt, Sufjan Stevens, and METZ
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski sounds like we use different methods to achieve same result
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski not if you keep it on silent and in your pocket, instead of obsessively "checking" it.
(trilema) nubbins`: which btw i pronounce "usagi" in my head occasionally, thanks bitcoin!
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski i bring a smartphone instead of a laptop precisely to limit my tech usage
(trilema) nubbins`: but... print shops are busy in the summer, so if i wanna go somewhere, it's best to go in the spring... and it turns out three of my favourite musical acts were playing back-to-back nights in cleveland
(trilema) nubbins`: i usually aim for at least a week or two
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, this trip is more of an indulgence than most
(trilema) nubbins`: you do not!
(trilema) nubbins`: i made it several months into "tired" before i abandoned s.k.
(trilema) nubbins`: 100% agreed
(trilema) nubbins`: everyone who travels has a point at which they become tired. for some, this is 6mos. for others, 1mo.
(trilema) nubbins`: this is precisely the reason
(trilema) nubbins`: ever get... tired?
(trilema) nubbins`: what sorta travel, mostly resorts or "real"?
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski you traveled much?
(trilema) nubbins`: (protip: get yourself a flight rewards credit card /before/ you quit your office job. they only check your annual salary when you first sign up)
(trilema) nubbins`: longer trips don't suffice for the man of leisure
(trilema) nubbins`: three-day vacation really
(trilema) nubbins`: taking in a couple shows
(trilema) nubbins`: nice try tho ;/
(trilema) nubbins`: he's taking a four-day vacation out of the country.
(trilema) nubbins`: rozal that was the most inept display of cloaking i've ever seen
(trilema) nubbins`: itching to throw that static bitcoind build onto one w/ an ssd
(trilema) nubbins`: shame i don't have time to play with these pogos til next week
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski inorite? sold as "used", guessing they're either (a) returns or (b) just damaged packaging and unsuitable for shelf
(trilema) nubbins`: mandelbrot et al did much to form my perceptions of the world
(trilema) nubbins`: too bad it's the kinda dumb guy buying all these, huh ;/
(trilema) nubbins`: AND TWINS MAKE FIVE
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm always suspicious when Canada Post sends me an "item delivered" email and the mailbox is empty
(trilema) nubbins`: almost certainly will not read
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai don't
(trilema) nubbins`: on account of it being such a piece of shit
(trilema) nubbins` blocked most of what he read from memory
(trilema) nubbins`: didn't the galt idiots blow up some train tracks or smth?
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe once you get enough toys it'll be a fair trade.
(trilema) nubbins`: so there's that
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, the thing that sucks and kills you *does* give you the money to buy toys
(trilema) nubbins`: i didn't quit 9-5 because i wanted to stick it to the tax man. i quit it because it sucked and it was killing me.
(trilema) nubbins`: sounds like a fucking wank fest
(trilema) nubbins`: 'cause you don't get taxed based on how hard you work up here in canada.
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai so salary is the word, then?
(trilema) nubbins`: ("but nubs, you sit around on irc all day" ...think about that)
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm much more productive than i was while working an office job.
(trilema) nubbins`: dirty, filthy taxes
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai FWIW i pay taxes
(trilema) nubbins`: mats those are some big imaginary numbers
(trilema) nubbins`: someone does, otherwise this house'd cost $30k and the slum in ohio'd cost $220
(trilema) nubbins`: in the20yearslumland, i could prolly buy a city block for that
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, apples to oranges
(trilema) nubbins`: i got four floors of house for not much more than that
(trilema) nubbins`: who needs $61k with a body like this?
(trilema) nubbins`: my body is a patchwork, beard happens to be reddish
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe at conference XIII you, me and alf can compare grey hairs
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu join the club
(trilema) nubbins`: "but with 61k/yr i can buy all these trappings!"
(trilema) nubbins`: trappings of happiness vs happiness
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm serious: <+nubbins`> lobbes truly foolhardy is the man to whom i serve as an example
(trilema) nubbins`: lobbes even the stupidest ideas will find support on the interwebs
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu are you talking about working in an office? 8)
(trilema) nubbins`: lobbes truly foolhardy is the man to whom i serve as an example
(trilema) nubbins`: i'd be too busy drinking
(trilema) nubbins`: if i worked in a cubicle, the last thing i would do is buy a pogo and mess with it
(trilema) nubbins`: boring people get bored.
(trilema) nubbins`: not at all. the world's my oyster.
(trilema) nubbins`: i wake up with a smile every day and go to bed w/ same
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu agreed. i still work (from time to time), and it doesn't suck at all
(trilema) nubbins`: this is not sustainable
(trilema) nubbins`: i once took a week's vacation because i couldn't be fucked to show up on a monday... or a tuesday
(trilema) nubbins`: you know when i was an office-man, i'd struggle whether to get out of bed every. single. morning.
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski implication being that all that extra money *almost* bought happiness
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski closer to $0k per year
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu so do i, but i also like not wanting to fucking kill myself every day
(trilema) nubbins`: what do i need money for? buy a volkswagen?
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu guess how much money i saved per year while making $61k
(trilema) nubbins`: the only ones that matter, yep
(trilema) nubbins`: my quality of life has steadily increased since walking away
(trilema) nubbins`: if there's a fire that big, house insurance will be the least of your worries
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai i gave up on atlas shrugged after several hundred pages because it was a piece of shit, indulge me will ya?
(trilema) nubbins`: you guys don't have fire insurance in b-a?
(trilema) nubbins`: what, floating along without a care for tomorrow? :D
(trilema) nubbins`: but i'll note that this is a problem with alf, not with walking away
(trilema) nubbins`: he 100% does not
(trilema) nubbins`: p and i, combined, contribute about $500/mo to keep this place going
(trilema) nubbins`: monthly mortgage payment is ~$1200
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu same.
(trilema) nubbins`: (as if there's a better man than me out there)
(trilema) nubbins`: 5-year term's up next summer so i'll prolly pop a couple tens of k down on the principal then
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu i pay off about $5k principal and $9k interest per annum
(trilema) nubbins`: if you have 25 pairs of red shoes and nowhere to put them, maybe a shoe rack isn't the right answer?
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski how it works is that you realize what you need and don't need to get by
(trilema) nubbins`: and i sleep the sleep of the just.
(trilema) nubbins`: and i spend my days not holding my nose to the grindstone, but dicking around on irc and puttering in my basement
(trilema) nubbins`: i owe the bank $190,000 and i made $6,000 in 2013
(trilema) nubbins`: the only thing that'll make alf walk away is alf
(trilema) nubbins`: but perhaps things i say will clear his mental path a bit more
(trilema) nubbins`: put another way, nothing i say will make alf walk away
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu sure, agreed.
(trilema) nubbins`: this can be useful or useless, depending on the situation, the person...
(trilema) nubbins`: "discussion" doesn't lead to action, it leads to puzzle pieces being shuffled around in your head
(trilema) nubbins`: or not. who knows.
(trilema) nubbins`: one day, in the distant future, i'll say something to alf and it'll make all what i have previously said fall into place
(trilema) nubbins`: "If we manage to set aside the fantasy of the General Assembly and replace it with an assembly of presences, if we manage to foil the constantly renewed temptation of hegemony, if we stop making the decision our final aim, then there is a chance for a kind of massification, one of those moments of collective crystallization where a decision suddenly takes hold of beings, completely or only in part."
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski again:
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai if all your goods that matter aren't with you, when you stand naked and alone, then you're in a pretty bad way.
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai break it down into one-syllable words for dumb ol' me.
(trilema) nubbins`: woops, sry
(trilema) nubbins`: constantly renewed temptation of hegemony, if we stop making the decision our final aim, then there is a chance for a kind of massification, one of those moments of collective crystallization where a decision suddenly takes hold of beings, completely or only in part."
(trilema) nubbins`: but of liberating the speech, gestures, and interplay of beings that take place within them. We just have to see that each person comes to an assembly not only with a point of view or a motion, but with desires, attachments, capacities, forces, sadnesses and a certain disposition toward others, an openness. If we manage to set aside the fantasy of the General Assembly and replace it with an assembly of presences, if we manage to foil the
(trilema) nubbins`: "The need to assemble is as constant among humans as the necessity of making decisions is rare. Assembling corresponds to the joy of feeling a common power. Decisions are vital only in emergency situations, where the exercise of democracy is already compromised. The rest of the time, “the democratic character of decision making” is only a problem for the fanatics of process. It’s not a matter of critiquing assemblies or abandoning them,
(trilema) nubbins`: actually unable to tell if that's a srs question.
(trilema) nubbins`: alf ^ imagine.
(trilema) nubbins`: let me guess, all the ones who jumped in the pool drowned?
(trilema) nubbins` pulls up a chair
(trilema) nubbins`: i reply "take your tongue out of his ass" and people think i'm being all flippant.
(trilema) nubbins`: question was "how do i stop giving rimjob to the man"
(trilema) nubbins`: how indeed
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu aw shucks
(trilema) nubbins`: you may be thinking of the time where i went on about how little money i need to make in order to get by
(trilema) nubbins`: certainly more valuable than w/e stacks of btc, w/e piles of printing equipment, w/e meatwot
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform my greatest asset is my willingness to toss zippos over shoulders
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ srsly, don't hold back
(trilema) nubbins`: <+nubbins`> now, at this point, i'd like to take the opportunity to inquire as to what the general consensus is, among those present, regarding my intelligence, wisdom, and overall sensibility
(trilema) nubbins`: $190 death-pledge and i chose $6k/yr over $61k/yr
(trilema) nubbins`: $190k outstanding
(trilema) nubbins`: paid-up? the bank owns this house, buddy
(trilema) nubbins`: adlai what can you do that i can't?
(trilema) nubbins`: as it's presented
(trilema) nubbins`: now, at this point, i'd like to take the opportunity to inquire as to what the general consensus is, among those present, regarding my intelligence, wisdom, and overall sensibility
(trilema) nubbins`: and opted for a job with an annual salary of (checking records...) about $6,000
(trilema) nubbins`: precisely six months after this promotion, i tendered my resignation
(trilema) nubbins`: this came with the "huge" salary of $61,000 per annum
(trilema) nubbins`: great stuff, top kek. 25% discount on my home and car insurance. $500/year "wellness benefit" for new running shoes. full health and dental.
(trilema) nubbins`: so in august 2012, i was promoted from "programmer/analyst" to "senior programmer/analyst"
(trilema) nubbins`: into your new life
(trilema) nubbins`: my point is if you don't like riding in the clown car, get out and walk (again the lsd!)
(trilema) nubbins`: salary time
(trilema) nubbins`: i'd also advance the opinion that one does not know quite how much one can change until one is forced to do so. while this may seem incredibly foolhardy (so much so that most people never try it), walking away with a zippo tossed over shoulder is the only way to find out.
(trilema) nubbins`: which puts you (a) far ahead of most of the pack and (b) in a position to, y'know... walk away and start over whenever you like
(trilema) nubbins`: the slightly less saucy reply is that you didn't learn "to do x", you learned "how to learn"
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform you won't get me to admit that learning things is a waste. so the facile reply is a flat-out no
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform an honest take will require a bit of time, but if you've got the ears...
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