ben_vulpes: raven_zero: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup
ben_vulpes: !up raven_zero
ben_vulpes: mod6: this is from "the art of computer programming" or... ?
ben_vulpes: mine too; what did nickserv tell you when you typed exactly /nick raven_zero
ben_vulpes: Guest29647: once you register the nick, you gotta also set it as your nick like /nick raven_zero
ben_vulpes: mod6: for contrast this first run just came out with 80.89%
ben_vulpes: heck, try raven_zero
ben_vulpes: but that one's also going to be taken, freenode is a very busy place
ben_vulpes: Guest29647: prepend with a slash, like /register zero
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski 's are also round
ben_vulpes: no, yours in particular
ben_vulpes: Guest29647: type /msg nickserv help for details on that
ben_vulpes: Guest29647: start by registering a nickname with nickserv
ben_vulpes: mod6: kinda interesting that your `ent` chi-squared "randomly would exceed this value XX percent of the time" always comes out to something nice and round like 25.00 or 50.00
ben_vulpes: pick a different name? perhaps a phonetic version of your name?
ben_vulpes: lol yeah that name has good odds of already being in use
ben_vulpes: ohai
ben_vulpes: !!up Raven
ben_vulpes: mind numbing waste of time and energy
ben_vulpes: chinese arm of this project is taking much longer, but at least i have at least one translatorwannabe in my pipeline
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a different quote, from a tentacle of a satellite company of some sort, wants 5.3kusd just for 1G dedicated international connection
ben_vulpes: mk
ben_vulpes: what do your opterons peak out at?
ben_vulpes: have yet to see how this pushes quotes around
ben_vulpes: mhm; estimated as 42*.3kW
ben_vulpes: am estimating and asking for a sanity check on my estimate.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: full cab provisions reasonably with 12.6kW if i understand previous threads properly?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: also what means "lockable sets"?
ben_vulpes: also rereading http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721921 thread
ben_vulpes: am working a few other quotes as well, will check in later
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: will do
ben_vulpes: mention thereof at least
ben_vulpes: i recall 3 sitting at asciilifeform's lab
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "service charges" eg sysadminnery, reboots, os install, vps hosting?
ben_vulpes: aok
ben_vulpes: and a "one year guaranteed note" means "payback of principle in full within a year plus some interest amount"?
ben_vulpes: right right
ben_vulpes: how, for instance, does the equity conversion rate get calculated?
ben_vulpes: sounds workable in the abstract to the extent that i understand what you're saying; contracts like this are not something i'm familiar with so i'll have to think slowly about it
ben_vulpes: i mean yes, there's no way i can foot the bill for that thing myself
ben_vulpes: what would the terms be?
ben_vulpes: at the very least i'd like to go there to rack a few boxes
ben_vulpes: nono i kid.
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah just coming up with an excuse to fly to hk
ben_vulpes: 2.5k of which is the bw charge
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, hk colo facility quotes a cab with a c block and 10gbps at ~4kusd/mo
ben_vulpes: i could manage with fr but eng does reduce the ognitive coverhead
ben_vulpes: aaaaand got it
ben_vulpes: much appreciated
ben_vulpes: may i have a copy please?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: d'ya have a warez of lisp in small pieces?
ben_vulpes: jurov: yes please
ben_vulpes: in other weak rsa key news: https://www.yubico.com/support/security-advisories/ysa-2017-01/
ben_vulpes: what *should a rack come with, 1Gbps? relatedly, how many ips
ben_vulpes: mm
ben_vulpes: trinque: how didja know that was the driver fg wanted?
ben_vulpes: ta daaa
ben_vulpes: ah i was looking for 2302
ben_vulpes: probably implies something is terribly amiss with this box if searching for 2303 doesn't turn anything up
ben_vulpes: dearie me
ben_vulpes: trinque: should i expect the pl2302 drivers to show up in make menuconfig?
ben_vulpes: cya
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aye, i plug in something that i'd expect to address via ttyUSB devices, but there are none in /dev
ben_vulpes: in other gentooisms gone horribly wrong i apparently punctured my water pump while changing an alternator belt
ben_vulpes: ty trinque
ben_vulpes: great i love recompiling my kernel
ben_vulpes: oh dear, asciilifeform how broken is a linux without any /dev/ttyUSB*
ben_vulpes: hanbot: ty!
ben_vulpes: shinohai: do we have a from-zero "install gpg, ... now you're in the #trilema wot" ?
ben_vulpes: my trinqulator sez "mac mini with openbsd"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: tiny set of scripts to get all of the source for a project from box a to box b
ben_vulpes: believe it he proudly writes ethereum shits now
ben_vulpes: so i'm fiddling with some source delivery pipeline, and i discover that some asshole has put executable code into his cl .asd files; which i suppose is fine in some circumstances, but i'm doing Terrible Things over here and the asd's aren't getting concatenated with everything else and so just to add another entry to my list of folks whose decisions have made my life harder i look this dude up and can ya
ben_vulpes: heh sounds like phun
ben_vulpes: google apparently really needs that site flag; such AI
ben_vulpes: " ?
ben_vulpes: what's the trilema article in re "we're being probed
ben_vulpes: eg crc
ben_vulpes: hey, all the other crap i've chewed through because linked here is inscrutable when i read the last chapter first
ben_vulpes: there is also "This key was generated as part of the Evil32 project. It is not owned by the user descrived in the UID"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have not spotted
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: $work demands infectable browser, what can i say
ben_vulpes: OR A PAGE THAT LOOKS RIGHT
ben_vulpes: what in the ever loving fuck
ben_vulpes: cleared browser data and now i get the right page
ben_vulpes: local links shows correct page...
ben_vulpes: this actually seems to be a chrome wtf?
ben_vulpes: whoa yup.
ben_vulpes: really? i get redirected to analytics.sumptuouscapital.com
ben_vulpes: and in other misdirections: keys.gnupg.net
ben_vulpes: something like that, yeah
ben_vulpes: "they took a stand and they put security over sales"
ben_vulpes: which reminds me "Symantec is no longer allowing governments to review the source code of its software because of fears the agreements would compromise the security of its products" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-russia-symantec/exclusive-symantec-ceo-says-source-code-reviews-pose-unacceptable-risk-idUSKBN1CF2SB
ben_vulpes winces at the self-crit
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: does the dude have otherwise spot-on analyses of his weaknesses and folks' opionions of him?
ben_vulpes: as opposed to?
ben_vulpes: i have no firsthand idea, but i got the impression the party was for an entire week and nobody was going to be interested in hearing from auslanders for the duration.
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: (apropos of nothing)
ben_vulpes: apparently it is bad manners to bother chinese people about business during the mid-autumn festival
ben_vulpes: meanwhile, found a 20160728.tar.bz2
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: wouldja mind sharing that stage3 you build your eulora gentoos with?
ben_vulpes: hey, notbad
ben_vulpes: !!up phf`
ben_vulpes: more important to me to get the locals into the wot, but i hear you
ben_vulpes: someone will hafta.
ben_vulpes: translator also part of the deal.
ben_vulpes: i wrote a "hey tmsr, what would you use a cn embassy for" draft, which you saw, but since then i opened a line of conversation with a meatwot gentleman on the ground in cn who's working with me on finding dcs in chengdu and beijing in which i can lease a rack. "embassy chick" not at the forefront of these discussions because republican state of emergency.
ben_vulpes: moving, and an afk crisis in my life are eating my time.
ben_vulpes: i know, i know.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721789 << gears grinding. i don't know anyone in beijing, but i've got a line on some folks in chengdu for translation services and building lists of eg datacenters
ben_vulpes: "foar teh children!"
ben_vulpes: heh yeah the sex trafficking thing
ben_vulpes: will bring bot to spec.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: okay, i see it.
ben_vulpes: sloth, likely.
ben_vulpes: and what, a machine-understandable description of what each extra-spec command does? i didn't think anyone here operated machines that /thought/.
ben_vulpes: the response from the bots to what they can do. either they're all spec-compliant, respond the same way to the same set of commands, or they don't.
ben_vulpes: should be binary, #t-spec compliant or not.
ben_vulpes: i am struggling to see the case of ever. someone programming against bots should read the help themselves and implement the api described.
ben_vulpes: yes
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ty
ben_vulpes: bot audit
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-5#216206 << i have acquired a few afk crises which have eaten a bunch of time since the move.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-5#216182 << pls to update http://trilema.com/2016/trilema-bot-spec/ , i forgot this log-spec-addenda; will implement.
ben_vulpes: rowhammer, the gift that keeps on giving.
ben_vulpes: > Finally, we abuse Intel SGX to hide the attack entirely from the user and the operating system, making any inspection or detection of the attack infeasible.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-4#215345 << usgistani corporation types and tax optimization is the fucking worst and most terrible vogonic poetry.
ben_vulpes: provided you sent me some code
ben_vulpes: i could probably boot a duplicate of your stack, wallet excepted, in a reasonably short period of time
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-4#215335 << happy to help
ben_vulpes: (also starring steven weber, who also starred in the never-spoken-about-again pilot of 'being bin laden' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5o8jYNBORU )
ben_vulpes: no tits, tho iirc
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X82zLM0oUY << featuring kristen bell in leather
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: phf's log search has a bifurcative behavior on the quotes
ben_vulpes: aaah
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's elaino's connection to that thing?
ben_vulpes: i have nfi in re the skin tone makeup of tallahasse
ben_vulpes: trinque: you figure fabrication on the part of the fired mgr?
ben_vulpes: in other brazen disregardz: https://www.fastcasual.com/news/eeoc-sues-whataburger-over-directive-to-hire-only-white-applicants/
ben_vulpes: quite*
ben_vulpes: uite
ben_vulpes: vegas is hard to pin down demographically, as it's just the projection of a particular multidimensional entertainment megacorp through our plane, so you're just as likely to run into tourists not even from this plane as you are say dentists from las cruces or 'hft guyz' from nyc
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in my backwards-ass neck of the woods, it's practically a family affair: http://www.portlandmercury.com/feature/2017/09/27/19346945/song-of-the-red-states
ben_vulpes: pink ar-15, that's pretty damn funny.
ben_vulpes: what are these mysterycrates, asciilifeform ?!
ben_vulpes: aha ty asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: trying to find this thread and failing
ben_vulpes: cruciform: gpg keys of greater than 2048 bits expose you to retardation in gpg as well
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477674 << day of epic threads
ben_vulpes: i am not particularly surprised, no
ben_vulpes: i think they *were* i mean
ben_vulpes: while i am definitely guilty of eking a half-decade out of a lathe with judicious application of idle six-axis arms found elsewhere in the facility, i don't think even the screw machine squad's hardware was mostly within expected lifespans.
ben_vulpes: > Similarly, a Navy analysis shows that the average age of shipyard capital equipment now exceeds its expected useful life.
ben_vulpes: just the usn, eh? did we do the most recent los alamos fuckups?
ben_vulpes: > Roy Moore was further endorsed by President Trump announced his intention to enthusiastically campaign for Moore in the event Moore came out on top in the runoff. << there is something missing in this sentence, between President Trump and announced, i think.
ben_vulpes: a+ landlords: http://archive.is/gyQpm
ben_vulpes: myeah, i hear ya
ben_vulpes: perhaps 50k is the most one can hope to make on a short term 100% leveraged play in the states; i've no idea what his relationship with the brokerage was like but he *had* to have had a margin account, it would be an offense to the oldladyempire if someone didn't
ben_vulpes: shabby take, at that.
ben_vulpes: campaign against knowing anything about how the world works will continue until the risk free rate is negative
ben_vulpes: ohai elaineo
ben_vulpes: random entertaining systemderps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1449001
ben_vulpes: not like it would be hard to wire keypads into them if they still don't have meaningful locks.
ben_vulpes: lol ok ok
ben_vulpes: existential threats, yes, but in their docile state!
ben_vulpes: under that analysis, should probably do fork/heavy equipment/rental+dealership instead of scooter dealership
ben_vulpes: also use windows. also in usshitistan.
ben_vulpes: it is a sad truth that all data centers i have been in have sadder coffee production facilities than even starbucks.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Prefabricated-IT-Data-Hall-500kW-97-Racks-Perimeter-CW-Cooling-Mod-Distrib-480V-60Hz/P-PFMIEA500C2N097A perhaps a more suitable prefab?
ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for the case where the sting agent claims to be 18 but then the dood gets locked up because he never checked her id or some shit and the agent was really playing a fifteen year old who was just pretending to be an eighteen year old
ben_vulpes: "I wanted to see if he was still up to his old tricks"
ben_vulpes: cruciform: didja catch the armory fail?
ben_vulpes: "i prefer signal, it at least maintains the pretense of end-to-end encryption"
ben_vulpes: ah, we had a thread on this that's slipping my mind.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think "real estate" in terms of "entries in the namespace"
ben_vulpes: fits with the dork's desire to make a kingdom appear out of nowhere though.
ben_vulpes: "In digital real estate, as opposed to digital currency, a low-friction, zero-trust solution to the double-spend problem isn't an economic necessity." << oooooh this just makes me mad
ben_vulpes: aaand in Hate Speech Today: http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/sorority-probed-after-singing-n-word-lyric-in-kanye-west-song/
ben_vulpes: microclime apparently extends up where i live now as well
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: portland has 2 seasons: rainy and sunny
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: there's a section of the trump un address that's duplicated, last duped pp starts with "We cannot let a murderous"
ben_vulpes: neato lobbes. ratchet of republican sapper can-do ratchets forward again...
ben_vulpes: fall happened over the course of two days. i am pissed.
ben_vulpes: that one scar kinda looks like a t-rex
ben_vulpes: labor pool must be as full of meat as possible, families kept in poverty paying for childcare
ben_vulpes: wait i thought it was against the law for human female to be a domestic slave
ben_vulpes: and as the keccacteams mention, little incentive for cryptoacademia to formalize how ARXceteras might fall over. hard work with little guarantee of payout apparently terrible strategy in a world of publishorperish + everyone pretends to ignore that none of the academics ever bothered to do the hard work of an actual ffa, preferring instead cheap outs like leaky tables
ben_vulpes: !~later tell mircea_popescu "university of electronic science and technology of china"
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-9-14#205675 << i have a line open to "UESTC" in chengdu, i'll keep y'all in the loop
ben_vulpes: "i'm cultured, i had a stool transplant!"
ben_vulpes: don't you know, BingoBoingo, tmsr~ is 95% shannonizer by linecount
ben_vulpes: and in Autotranslation Today: http://archive.is/9t3Zb
ben_vulpes: people still fuck goats, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: lol and earlier today this read "Emacs and VIM users 2X as likely to pass technical interviews as Eclipse users": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15285927
ben_vulpes: and in other things american hospitals are willing to charge a tidy hundo to use a single item of: http://www.ebay.com/itm/McKesson-Rapid-Diagnostic-Test-Kit-Medi-Lab-Performance-Strep-A-CLIA-Waived-2-/122676899273?hash=item1c901cedc9:g:DzcAAOSw9ENZpvbV
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lol i got it from you
ben_vulpes: mouth now open, waiting for them to pour in; found a non sybil i guess.
ben_vulpes: just...no new blocks.
ben_vulpes: was reporting 20+ connections and exhibiting no signs of blackhole
ben_vulpes: heh i've been waiting for that
ben_vulpes: gotta lead em on a bit for max lulz, "hm, what informations are we talking about here?"
ben_vulpes: did not even bother to specify which information?
ben_vulpes: ahahaha this is choice
ben_vulpes: well who are you?
ben_vulpes: haw haw haw
ben_vulpes: trinque does
ben_vulpes: fromdeedbot: which service
ben_vulpes: g_l will protest the claim
ben_vulpes: not afaik
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: perhaps meant headlines?
ben_vulpes: california hep outbreak continues to be totally contained: ΒΈhttp://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-diego-hepatitis-20170918-story.html
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: in other news, W3C finally brings DRM to the masses; EFF resigns: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/09/open-letter-w3c-director-ceo-team-and-membership
ben_vulpes: the few days i've been here, at least.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it is north, but not by much. culturally, it is to the 'right', and by enough to feel the difference on a daily basis.
ben_vulpes hums the dueling banjos refrain
ben_vulpes: i really do give a shit about being au courant with the hickset, BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: i am wearing a john deere meshback as we speak
ben_vulpes: very much so.
ben_vulpes has vacated; zero regrets.
ben_vulpes: trinque: toxic feminism or something like that
ben_vulpes grumbles
ben_vulpes: mostly i know because i won't let them talk to me as though i were the twitterbox; 'tis the reason the relationships have all persisted as long as they have.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i also know a few of the girls involved
ben_vulpes: friends, mircea_popescu .
ben_vulpes: the stories i hear from the american field, horrifying i tell you. bartendresses with hundreds of thousands in debt; girls making 60k per annum who refuse to shop anywhere but the clothes-recycler lest they create strife with their housemates who bill immediately for the 6.75 share of the gas bill...
ben_vulpes: i was musing to a close friend who is in frequent wonderation at what i've wrought in my tiny domain that i doubt that i could pull the same thing off again ex a) the influences of this cult and b) taking her home at 23 or whatever it was
ben_vulpes: not because of anything inherent to the biology of the meatsacks involved, mircea_popescu , but due to the induced brain damage of living stateside for so long.
ben_vulpes: would mean he has some knowledge i don't and i went to college dammit!"
ben_vulpes: i remain unconvinced that selection applied to us base stock will filter anything of quality out; ppm one'd want to filter for demands astronomical throughput. perhaps this is just the perspective of a guy who's been stuck in the mayogendered, kilt-wearing, anally opposed to the notion of getting pretty for a date, "i won't buy the truck you suggest i buy because A MAN SUGGESTED I BUY A GOOD TRUCK and that
ben_vulpes: the relevant other side of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-9-11#202626 is that they know intimately how shitty their own street urchins are; and hope that *any* selection process applied to a base stock of omfg not that shit that i see every day will yield better results than the horror stories of american "foster system", obvious drawbacks of adopting out of their local pool of poor
ben_vulpes: also this one slipped through the cracks: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/devs-unknowingly-use-malicious-modules-put-into-official-python-repository/ "use more centralized distribution models without cryptographic verification of anything much less identity!"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "usgistani woman", i suppose. one of those irate generalizations.
ben_vulpes: hey she's a mermaid
ben_vulpes: now that is a mountain of meat
ben_vulpes: electronic self-closing doors please?
ben_vulpes: and in other splittenings; bill kristol presents the "exquisitely poll-tested effort to create a safe new center" (nolabels.org); "we stand together against an alternative right disdainful of the traditions of American conservativism and a vocal left that blends socialist economics with identity politics" hurrrrr yes please i would like my beige underpowered mini van with tan seats oh and can i have the
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: a+ bukkit of lolz