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mircea_popescu: who was it, baez had a song about how [the wife] has opened the last can of baked beans
asciilifeform: i bet that modern folks will discover, to some surprise, how many were subscribed to the 'last bullet health & pension insurance co.'
mircea_popescu: rare is the man that actually won't.
mircea_popescu: right. so yeah, the worst thing about a friend getting cancer is that point where they lose it
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, the hunchback is trying to straighten "through science".
asciilifeform: the hunchback will straighten in his grave.
mircea_popescu: it worked before people travelled, but your average usian thatever visited europe now knows that the sprawl is fucking insane AND not needed.
mircea_popescu: there are many decades, century+ worth of bad decisions baked in that will have to be unwound.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the us has to get off consumerism. this is not an if.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the country where no man may say "do it this way ~becayse i say so~" all sorts of pathologies are bound to develop. because in point of fact a country has some scope for that sort of thing, whether you want to or not. and like in any living organism, once a metabolic pathway is blocked, homeostasis becomes extremely difficult if at all possible. and will take all sorts of crazy to pull off.
mircea_popescu: "i was following orders111" "who the fuck from ?" "reality!"
mircea_popescu: right ? i predict "the dictates of reality" as a concept to make its appearance at the war on terror warcrimes tribunal.
mircea_popescu: governing a herd of idiots who nevertheless think themselves the crown of creation is no easy feat. it is also no feat any thinking man should ever accomplish, for any accomplishment at all, and most mere attempts, are quite morally wrong, and taint something fierce.
mircea_popescu: just like a professor won't have the mp superbity to go into the review meeting hands in pockets and deliver a stern "fuck you, i'm doing you a favor being here, now you prove yourselves to me and then go home."
mircea_popescu: and if they have to be made up... they will be.
mircea_popescu: but that's not how it works, because to keep up the semblance of "popular democracy" one is stuck "persuading" the cattle. so all sorts of "justifications" have to be made up.
mircea_popescu: so add these two together, what do you get ? obviously the actual goals of the entire "global warming" stuff, especioally if scrubbed of all the crud, would generally be beneficial and are in any case unavoidable.
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 00:09:10; mircea_popescu: “We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. ” ~Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89
mircea_popescu: Those who are arguing about the cost of healthcare or think that poor people are lying to get benefits are completely and utterly missing the point of the system. It wants this in the hands of doctors, because it would be toxic to everyone else. Can you imagine your Senator deciding who gets benefits and who doesn't?"
mircea_popescu: "Do you want riots in the streets? How much does it cost to prevent LA (or the city of your choice) from catching fire? Answer: $600/month/person, plus Medicaid. Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it's a disease, it's nobody's fault. Yay empiricism.
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mircea_popescu: the first two, "giving poor people money so they're too fat to ferguson" : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/tlp.html
mircea_popescu: let's add two and two together here.
mircea_popescu: preexisting policy goals ? DING DING DING the man's a winner! check out the ~coinicidence~ there!
mircea_popescu: take global warming. it is EXACTLY that, they created an imaginary reality to replace earth's history, and that imaginary reality now serves... what does it serve ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people << the reason may escape you but is obvious.
mircea_popescu: distinction IS unimportant, inasmuch as you're not interested in either flies or rotten meat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that's about as relevant to the people in the field as the "bitcoin (tm)" "vessenes scam foundation" are relevant to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ".@rabite I think I liked you better as a Christian, could you go back to the Jesus stuff please" lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jihad long predates the invention of america, let alone the creation of the usg.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform always wondered, in that spirit, if there exist folks with 'useful' tattoos, e.g., one that turns you into a 'human slide rule' <<< yes. in russian prisons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, i believe their sustenance is genuine.
mircea_popescu: (women have a very deeply entrenched masochism in them, as you'd expect of machines made to actually carry to term and give birth. the more heavily sexed ones often have trouble managing it until their late 30s)
mats_cd03: if you're clever enough to win, then you live long enough to see the mess you've created
mats_cd03: legitimate grievances or not, i don't see a problem with taking up arms in support of wutever they believe
mircea_popescu: i do. what the fuck do they think they are, reddit on steroids ?
mircea_popescu: is the name in recognition of your many queefs or what.
mircea_popescu: except you know... minus all the actual things.
asciilifeform: i have yet to encounter a 'mousetrap' more effective than 'lesswrong' circa 2009 or so - that is, a mechanism for wasting the time of intelligent folks. has to be seen to be believed, really.
mircea_popescu: then some guy decided to fill it up with child porn, and so it (obviously) took off
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the history of that thing went. it was about as retarded as lesswrong, originally, a sort of obscure livejournal clone populated by worthless shut-ins (which doesn't mean alkl shut-ins are worthless).
mircea_popescu: shit, people there can even ddos
mircea_popescu: well the advantage to us being two different people is that our data doesn't match.
asciilifeform: it was actual people. at least - then
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess now i'm stuck doing a rawls is a clueless ignoramus masquerading as a philosopher (if the "american" part didn't give it away by itself), inept enough to present mere circular reasoning as "moral thought"
mircea_popescu: "you are greatly overstating the importance of the site, it's not reddit sized. it's not even digg.com sized, as of today. it's actually smaller than your blog, 5-10k a month sort of affair."
mircea_popescu: the ever-loving intel dept i could not survive without actually just slipped me a note,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to see 'what' dance, visit their forum, their wiki, put on gas mask. to see how many - ask intel dept. i have not counted them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spam filter - and, aha, bayes lived long ago, likewise. mr y did not invent the moving parts. just stuck the pig head on the pole and convinced various folks to dance.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask around. i know, it's difficult to believe. but the man (yes, he was an actual hassid, afaik he was expelled from their number) is a 'natural hitler' or however it is called these days.
mircea_popescu: the onlyproblem with this theory being that spamfilters predate his adolescence.
mircea_popescu: wait, you are crediting a 35 yo blogger from san francisco with having single handedly created the pop-bayesian idiocy now making up half of applied math out there ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes him personally. he organized a perverse cult around bayes's theorem, and hypnotized a thousand reasonably-intelligent folks (mathematical, physical, etc. students)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the connection << organized abuse of statistical concepts for satanic purposes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, consider leaving a shlomo comment on the article itself, for readers of teh future.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 allah loves the honest man, neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, what's the connection there ?
mats_cd03: also "The Koran for Dummies". top keks
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is rawls anyway.
kakobrekla has done a fair bit of soldering 10 or so years ago. mostly on gpus of the time.
kakobrekla: maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode << someone did not grasp 'solder bridge.' < a no grasped just fine. its common to see two pads on pcb instead of a pins + jumper.
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chetty: at least the 'pagan' religions had some fun
BingoBoingo: Well this whole Jesus thing has kind of been a huge bummer for Western civilization ever since the Romans started taking it seriously
asciilifeform: and the 'veil' is one such.
asciilifeform: whether or not 'lizard hitlers' exist in the flesh, they certainly have an analogue in the hierarchy of mega-fallacies (that is, devices for leading otherwise intelligent people to do something damnably idiotic)
asciilifeform: i tentatively buy moldbug's argument that this is a specifically christian atavism (the hindus, for instance, make no such exception, and cheerfully proclaim that one is quite likely to 'reincarnate' as a bacterium)
BingoBoingo: If this lottery were a think, gut bacterium probably wouldn't be the worst outcome. At least gut bacterium lack the faculties to realizes it is going to die for the cause of turdbuilding.
asciilifeform: and the rawlsian lottery is presumed to include only them
asciilifeform: as for why they don't include gut bacterium, while it seems like a logical implication - the core idiocy is something once called 'inner light doctrine', where 'humans' (as defined situationally, by the sc4mz0r, but generally rolling up all shaved apes) are 'special'
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'rawlsian veil', as i later found out, happens to be one of the dark elephants on which the entire satanic edifice of 'enlightenment' stands
BingoBoingo: I dunno. All of these Jew names.
asciilifeform: (why no mention of the suicide weapon in the post? or did i miss it. what a disappointment. 'pics or it didn't happen!')
asciilifeform: herr yudkowsky has quite a bit to answer for, including, iirc, inventing the 'simulation argument' brought up by the dead tattooist.
BingoBoingo: Seems to be the case
asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu with regard to the 'abuse of statistical devices' outlined in note iii, the accomplished master of the art is a fellow named yudkowsky (search #b-a log). he isn't an idiot, bastard knows exactly what he's doing, and his cult is a veritable vacuum trap for thinking folks
asciilifeform always wondered, in that spirit, if there exist folks with 'useful' tattoos, e.g., one that turns you into a 'human slide rule'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was once astonished to learn that the 'one is overwhelmingly likely to be a gut bacterium' argument outlined in note iii of your article is not taught to modern children as a fallacy, but as a moral (!) imperative, called 'rawlsian veil of ignorance.'
asciilifeform: come to think of it, is there anything on that list that isn't either entirely inconsequential -or- a total atrocity ?
asciilifeform: at the physical scale seen in the picture - a mistake from not knowing wtf one is doing
asciilifeform: which is the solder equivalent of a child's ink blot
asciilifeform: maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode << someone did not grasp 'solder bridge.'
assbot: Old scammers going to continue scamming http://t.co/H33pMaUObw /TheRealSolid /hashtag/mtmox?src=hash
danielpbarron: oh hi there!
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mats_cd03: "I am the OG here."
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mircea_popescu: and since doing this, bitcoin foundation (the actual one) may get a lol at just how sparse this is : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Prohibited_changes
mircea_popescu: sorry c man. but think about it like the girl thinks of her virginity
cazalla: anyway zzz, needed a beer after installing gentoo and trying to install xfce, throws all these USE flags required and other shit, mircea_popescu recommended for noobs my ass, i'll smash the laptop
mircea_popescu: "Elimination of output scripts: all transactions pay-to-scripthash, probably with a single byte indicating the scripthash type. Other than reducing effective output script secrecy (which is not possible without OP_EVAL anyways) this is believed to be costless, and the secrecy can be recovered with recursive OP_EVAL. The motivation here is that data in outputs is far more expensive than inputs because some outputs may b
mircea_popescu: here's a good one, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, whoever else can follow the logic :
mircea_popescu: cazalla is this in fact just giving the police ample room to hassle obnoxious teenagers ?
punkman: they should ban clothes, could use them to strangle people
mircea_popescu: i suppose the 10 buns in a package producer lobby is working as we speak to make the bread knife illegal.
mircea_popescu: what's the crime ?
cazalla: punkman, they'll arrest you for carrying a knife unless you happen to have a fishing rod with you, are a chef.. some "legitimate excuse" for having a knife in other words
mircea_popescu: da fuck, pay money to go be somewhere where they want your id for plastic knives ?
punkman: do they probe your ass if you want to buy a metal knife?
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, outside some very narrow applicaitons such as i dunno, oversized icecream cones, i don't actually use nor would i want to use a plastic spoon. because what for ? do i need it to eat my campaign flan and i'm too far from an actual table with actual cutlery or something ?
mircea_popescu: aside the obvious objection that "right wingers" have nothing to do with all this, and aside the spurious conflation of plastics and nuclear power,
mircea_popescu: decimation: I would therefore like to ask all my readers to take a look around them and note everything plastic, and then say a quiet "thank you" to the right-wingers <<< imo that argument fails on pretty much all the angles.
mircea_popescu: in other news, overweight redditards don't go out of the house for fear of rapists. not as you might imagine, for lack of long enough tanktracks
mircea_popescu: assbot: U.S. Should Quit $100 Bill to Stop N. Korea Counterfeiting <<< yeah, THAT is why they'll quit it lmao
mircea_popescu: rather than a lot of peri-blather.
mircea_popescu: if they dropped the act and just got together maybe they';d finish it and then we could ignore an actual thing
punkman: all the time
mircea_popescu: punkman ever get the impression that everyone's really working on the same thing ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: dafuq do you know, maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode hanging for no reason to make it work <<< this is how i used to solder things!
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mircea_popescu: i don't get this braindamage. "we're the most secure option because you don't actually own your keys" ?
mircea_popescu: ""We are the most secure option because we're a piece of dedicated hardware. We use multi-sig authentication. There are three keys and each of those keys is stored in a different location.""
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ^ #b-a search is broken. why am i seeing text that does not contain the literal word 'structuring' ? <<< mthreat's thing has a stemmer.
mircea_popescu: decimation: "The Brazilification of society can be a samba carnival assuming you approach it the right way, and most importantly, get to live on the pleasant side of the barbed wire fence." <<< this has been exactly my experience to date.
mircea_popescu: decimation: mike_c: "To enforce the law one must be above the reach of the law" is pretty much the US m.o. since... Nixon at least << nah, Nixon was actually trying to clean house, was pushed out by those who are above the law << what, he gets points for trying ? there's better ways to clean things up than sending spooks to derp in offices.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: it will be a 'temporary relocation center' to them, even when the shower heads start hissing out the zyklon. <<< well, as tal said to pete, "what's my incentive to interact with reality ?"
mircea_popescu: "On top of this the recent release of SolidCoin has highlighted another problem in the Bitcoin protocol. It it susceptible to a drop off in "mining power", which is essentially the people who process transactions switching to more profitable things such as SolidCoin."
mircea_popescu: "We wondered why nobody fixed the issues and made things easier for the many out there that aren't computer engineers. After some discussion with a few of the developers we came away completely surprised. They thought, and still do, Bitcoin is fine and very little needs to change."
mircea_popescu: anyway, let the record reflect that yes, there was a point in 2011 when gavin was sane.
mircea_popescu: luckily, he has some of the decades left, it's not all used.
mircea_popescu: "After developing numerous sites and businesses using Bitcoin, those of us now involved with SolidCoin saw major problems. Massive flaws in interfacing with the Bitcoin network forced us to use numerous work-arounds, using nearly all of our decades long experience as computer scientists."
mircea_popescu: clearly, "stagnation" is what the progressive state wants out of things :D
mircea_popescu: "What would government involvement in Bitcoin look like? Well one of their first goals would be to let the project stagnate. The disappearance of the founder "Satoshi" and appointment of Gavin Andresen, someone who has publicly admitted he doesn't want much to change in Bitcoin allows us to see one big reason for stagnation." << from the solidcoin derpage.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, a sort of wanna-be -assets minus the cool stuff.
mircea_popescu: foir the terminally curious.
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/01TD6GH << Looky their reaction
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha oh the precious. reminds me of all the forum ninnies getting ready for "mp's extradition!11"
BingoBoingo: To think that the Ad platform was going to come before a place to park an ad platform!
mircea_popescu: So people are asking what is happening with MicroCash, especially in regards to me. There are 2 problems I ran into in late May. 1) Needing to make some money 2) Lack of motivation
mircea_popescu: i enjoyed the article lol.
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BingoBoingo: Yes, the Bitcoin to shitcoin thing
mircea_popescu: "It will be as revolutionary as mcxNOW was originally in 2013." << i clearly missed out on yet another biggestfirstbest revolution
punkman: yeah I mean it'd change back to notary if it disconnects, but otherwise not smart enough yet
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punkman: "I'll be willing to complete the beta as quickly as possible if people want to donate some BTC to me, this way I can show the wife it's more like a job than a hobby. As to the amount, I think 250BTC would be enough to get her off my back"
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform undata http://trilema.com/2014/between-the-hammer-and-the-anvil/ << there, you inspired me.
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cazalla: BingoBoingo, when is the grand jury decision due?
decimation: they have always hated suburbs, nuclear power, shopping malls, automobiles... and plastics, which could not exist under a centrally planned green economy. I would therefore like to ask all my readers to take a look around them and note everything plastic, and then say a quiet "thank you" to the right-wingers who made it possible for everything that Brutopians consider "wasteful" to exist at all. << Herr Kokkarinen
decimation: > It is certainly amazing how technology and commerce allow mass production of plastic spoons to be sold for three cents apiece, well worth the time and convenience they save me. However, all centrally planned green policies and their wannabe implementers always assign zero value for other people's time and convenience. Since the left instinctively despises everything that gives normal people more time, freedom or material wealth,
kakobrekla: here is the latest comment http://dpaste.com/0A3QQFC.txt
asciilifeform: finger that fell off in the poker tournament << leprosy ?
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BingoBoingo: Gotta bribe the tribal chiefs with something
BingoBoingo: Eh, US will probably have to bring back Woodrow Wilson bills sometime these next couple decades
decimation: 'only an enemy of the state would use cash'
decimation: asciilifeform: the story and the source indicates the idea-balloon has been floated
asciilifeform: 'ban the benjie' << mega-lol
asciilifeform: try buy $1b 'of them' and notice that most of the resulting 'ownership' is physically-inaccessible leveraged crud
asciilifeform: let a thousand synthetic diamonds bloom.
decimation: of course, 'forging' the work of old masters (imitating it openly) is also virtuous
asciilifeform: every mouse, every rat, gnawing on the sacks in which bezzle lords safely squirrel away their wealth - is doing good work.
decimation: especially if the forgery is the ugly canvas-vomit of some drunken fag-hag
asciilifeform: but the lizard who buys a $40m rembrandt is not a fool, he knows he can get $50 next year
decimation: perhaps the religion of the age can be identified by its idol trade
asciilifeform: mostly small-time chumps there
decimation: in the middle ages, trade in 'relics' was pretty much the same thing
asciilifeform: canvas, the original altcoin for the lizard lords.
decimation: that's an interesting point. it would 'have value' even behind the iron curtain
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decimation: asciilifeform: the page I linked above does list her prominent bezzle connections
decimation: maybe they have some secret new technique for joining circuitry with solder bridges
kakobrekla: dafuq do you know, maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode hanging for no reason to make it work
decimation: also note he isn't actually soldering anything together
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kakobrekla: anyway the logo is not so bad
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kakobrekla: > Melanie excels at using the most up-to-date social tools to creatively promote a brand and attract relevant customers.
nubbins`: they don't touch on that at all
decimation watched without skipping, realizes the loathesomeness
nubbins`: in the sidebar, i mean
nubbins`: cazalla BingoBoingo the underlined links should also go, they look not nice
decimation: I don't get it, some blonde rambling is loathesome?
cazalla: asciilifeform, maybe post it as a comment then you can get credit for pointing it out
asciilifeform: that clip was unbelievably loathesome, so much so that even hard to begin describing how
nubbins`: cazalla something like this might let you have a bit more usable real estate on the sidebar
asciilifeform: there are a few more of similar derps pretending to debug, etc.
asciilifeform: taken from the ad kakobrekla linked
thestringpuller: what's the story?
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kakobrekla: fits the desc of the device
asciilifeform: 'no real things were harmed in the making of this film'
kakobrekla: asciilifeform to let us know they spend more on the video than their tech gear
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what i can't figure out is why the rigol appears in that film
decimation: asciilifeform: is there a good free vhdl simulator w/timing analysis?
asciilifeform: this is the miser's version of the one i have
kakobrekla: sorry i forgot which model you had, recalled the brand.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: nope. that's the cheapo rigol
kakobrekla: the video
kakobrekla: also did you see the rigol
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cazalla: who is gonna use such a thing? i don't even need to be technically minded to know there is no chance i would use a wallet with a camera
cazalla: asciilifeform, don't forget the camera
mats_cd03: i still have the vial, half full. 'for emergencies'.
mats_cd03: as a young man i ruined the interior of a rival's BMW with durian extract i bought on the internets
decimation: when I lived on the east coast I used to walk to work. at one corner, there was a 'crab shack' with a dumpster - in the summer the smell was repulsive for at least 500 feet
TheNewDeal: hating on durians, the bastards
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asciilifeform: allowed in certain places, forbidden in others - like smoking in usa
asciilifeform: in southeast asia.
decimation: heh sorry I'm not there yet in the logs
nubbins`: <+nubbins`> there are -- no joke -- special appliances the size of large deep-freezes called kimchi fridges
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undata: I like eating fermented rot as much as the next guy, but come on people, standards!
decimation: they look like freezers, but really are designed to hold the fish guts at the right temp and humidity to ferment
undata: "It is also often served with the Korean alcoholic beverage makgeolli, which helps diners cope with the pungency of the fermented dish." << gold.
decimation: in south korea they sell 'kimchi machines'
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asciilifeform: norway ought to run a cultural exchange with korea, teach them lutefisk, rakefisk.
undata: nubbins`: all the time, but alas, I am an uncultured southerner
nubbins`: nah, it's great. when was the last time you saw a new major kitchen appliance that you'd never heard of?
mats_cd03: used to be they'd just put the ingredients in a clay pot and bury it.
nubbins`: there are -- no joke -- special appliances the size of large deep-freezes called kimchi fridges
nubbins`: they love it
mats_cd03: ive never traveled there TheNewDeal
mats_cd03: kbbq and kimchi is literally the only thing anybody in the known universe recalls of korean food
asciilifeform: users of atm: there will be arseprints associated with some coin, somewhere, and they won't be mine. they will be yours.
nubbins`: it is literally the only thing i miss about that place, and i miss it SO BAD.
nubbins`: korean food is the pinnacle of cuisine
asciilifeform: 'but i didn't send the coin to jihad' - tell that to the inquisitor.
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone who makes any use whatsoever of these machines does so at peril of his life. because that db will eventually be put to use.
TheNewDeal: you've traveled there?
mats_cd03: the least refined cuisine of any culture i have ever had
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: anyone who agrees to use this abomination, deserves to be in the db
nubbins`: i was barely able to scrape together ingredients for what i made
nubbins`: TheNewDeal unfortunately with no korean market here, side dishes are a practical impossibility
mats_cd03: in the case of that idiot ATM, you have to provide all 3
nubbins`: i wonder what percentage of startups had their names chosen by pentecostals
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: doubtless the requirement varies based on jurisdiction. if its anything like the Robocoin ATM at the Hacker Dojo in Mt View, it'll be 1. palm print 2. photo 3. govt id
undata: -ify, -ly, etc, tends to make me think the company will go under soon
asciilifeform: no ill will for the author, but he is clearly using some stale dough in recipe.
asciilifeform: a turd is so much more offensive when in an otherwise pristine art gallery, than in a back alley.
asciilifeform: srsly, this is the last place i expected to run into 'luser phriendly' crud
asciilifeform: ^ #b-a search is broken. why am i seeing text that does not contain the literal word 'structuring' ?

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