mats_cd03: i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik
mats_cd03: yes, they suck. i am partially deaf due to too many explosions without earpro
decimation: I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy
Vexual: no, theyre not
Vexual: I also know when my favourite song is on the radio tho
asciilifeform not the only mutant!
asciilifeform: there we go.
asciilifeform: like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative.
BingoBoingo: I listen to AM radio all of the time, but I'm still not sure I believe in stable RF circuits
decimation: inductor microphonics are the bane of anyone trying to make a very stable rf circuit
BingoBoingo: I think the efficent problem at the moment is that no one but foxconn makes anything anymore
decimation: I definite hear something when I flip mine but I think I have the smaller model
asciilifeform: (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes)
BingoBoingo: There are reasons I drink.
decimation: dithering works great if you want to suppress spurs on an adc
asciilifeform can see the led blinkers on cars in traffic, which 'no one can see', it's a torment
asciilifeform: fuck dithering hard, with red hot poker.
asciilifeform: afaik everything presently on the market, with exception of eizo's 'colour-edge' series, uses dithering.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: If you ever want practice killing people, Mexico is prolly the place to do it. Huge security issues, but they'll never mention it
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-officer-s-lawyer-union-official-say-ap-story-on/article_214c7eee-5729-5b2a-bf1c-a16a0f17cb68.html << latest on whether spark meets tinder
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Where you headed, Cuba?
mircea_popescu: not since the z80 days anywya
asciilifeform: yes, there was a time when we have 'commodore 64' or 'bk-0010' and tv out, and that was it.
decimation: but it's in the living room and is a media computer
asciilifeform: and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
asciilifeform: but you can't get the solid equivalent
asciilifeform: the array, naturally, is shaped a little like a titanic horizontal display (to match visual field of eyes)
asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically << ideally they'd all be vertical. nothing to do with angle, you've the causality reversed.
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
decimation: BingoBoingo: I like the 1:1 aspect ratio
decimation: asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically (better horizontal view angle)?
BingoBoingo: And yes, moving the wall further back is prolly more cost effective than finding an adequate monitor
BingoBoingo: Only 720p, but... move the wall back
asciilifeform neglected to tell the surprising part of the dead lcd story - that replacing a side screen is a royal bitch on account of virtually all extant lcd being worthless in terms of poor vertical view angle tolerance
decimation: yeah, they probably just didn't believe you
asciilifeform: decimation: just one not featured in the list, because afaik i was the first to ever plug the damn thing into a linux box
decimation: asciilifeform: I wonder if the linux-usb guys only accept 'official' pids
asciilifeform: decimation: phun phact about that list. i've mailed them pid/vids from devices not seen therein (legit, golden toilets) and it was never included.
Vexual: im frightened of the filename
xanthyos: http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/rotsnake7.gif << it's not really the gif that's animated, it's your brain.
asciilifeform: decimation: what do you think the answer to that is.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I know the answer I was just taunting you
decimation: I'm not sure they make plasma displays meant for computer
asciilifeform: phun phact. symbolics corp. had to contract to have tubes blown specially for lisp machine, as properly high-res crt was not available off the shelf
decimation: are you going to pay the $5k fee for a vid/pid for cardano?
decimation: asciilifeform: today I was in usb driver hell, and then something occurred to me
asciilifeform just dug out a 'radiforce g21' from emergency stash, but fears it may be too heavy for the hoist
decimation: I dumped my mostly burnt one in the local dump years ago
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd love to replace all 4 with trinitrons. but gave up after the umpteenth 'yes i promise it isn't burnt' and faded tube.
thestringpuller: never would take you for a beavis and butthead fan mircea_popescu
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mircea_popescu: ;;google i am the great cornholio
thestringpuller: good quality though. it'll go in the office
nubbins`: literally so bright you couldn't read the knobs on a dark stage
nubbins`: i've got a small 12-channel mixer i use for live shows that I had to putty over the power led (blue)
decimation: there are many studies coming out that tend to point to blue light exposure as being really bad for sleep
mircea_popescu: eventually i taped a businesscard in there. 1/16th inch of cardboard did it.
mircea_popescu: because it's new, and these idiots with the leds are like out of fucking control in their quest for laser beams.
mircea_popescu: decimation i had to tape over the fucking display lights on my ac here
BingoBoingo is now reaping the rewards of most badass candle upgrade ever
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you try to melon them ?
kakobrekla: yes kako saves the day
decimation: ah now it just came up (/a) without the error
decimation: on another computer it just hangs
decimation: on one computer when I try to go to qntra.net the "ABE" noscript warning pops up blocking a get to 127.0.0.1
decimation: the only reason I noticed is because noscript fired off something
decimation: can't get there now
mircea_popescu: THE DDOSER HAS BEEN FOUND
decimation: the home page
asciilifeform wasn't there, did not see proverb in action
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Turks got their butts from Armenia too, that's why they had to genocide the men
mircea_popescu: and so they... adapted ?
mircea_popescu: the turks reproduced through anal intercourse with their womenz for all of the renaissance
BingoBoingo: Greeks get their butts from Armenia
Vexual: aesthetic skills never lost
mircea_popescu: *: ben_vulpes flaps more << i have nfi what he's on about either, if that helps anything.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously behold the liberals shilling for botique rifle http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/how-math-makes-smaller-bullets-deadlier-1627307057
BingoBoingo: So interesting advertising match made in hell I spotted on the interwebz. Gawker Media and Weatherby rifles.
BingoBoingo: Well, he had to break them in with Ms Magadaline
kakobrekla ducks for the rocks
Vexual: yeah, but you read the old languages
Vexual: what the fuck even is moolah?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "your honor, we seek class action status for our suit here" "who is the defendant ?" "some guy"
mircea_popescu: MissShibe: Hi all, if anyone has lost money in Moolah / Cryptsy we are working on a class action lawsuit against Ryan Kennedy. <<< because "class action" suits exist for the purpose of allowing a bunch of derps to not have to pay anything in civil claims against individuals now.
mircea_popescu: otherthings would also apply, but that's aside.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: got the poster nubbins << no fucking way, i had so much $$$ riding against this!11
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <jurov> lol The20YearIRCloud you'll soon get sizable chunk of ohio
mircea_popescu: "The Bitcon Fundation cant pay for what it needs because it has 57.875 BTC left from 5,878.222 BTC raised."
BingoBoingo: Yeah they do
mircea_popescu: well i dunno about you good folk, but various wp comment spammers still manage to dutifully connect, propose their post crud, get the required 500 and so on.
BingoBoingo: Not the black one yet, May need more pics for Qntra branding
cazalla: fuck it, i'm over it, gonna put a rabbit in the pan
decimation: yeah resolves the same here
mircea_popescu: TomServo decimation is this a matter of you not resolving the domain ? what's dig qntra.net say ?
decimation: ah okay, I was thinking the former
asciilifeform: decimation: this one wasn't self-comprehension or any 'fancy' magic of the sort. just elementary question of 'does x compiler build with self'
decimation: but can it synthesize c after compiling? I suppose it could
asciilifeform: decimation: also the argument that no programming system is really 'adult' unless it can swallow its own tail without gagging.
asciilifeform: decimation: this was printed on the crate! determinism.
cazalla: the one advert makes it look like million dollar homepage so we may as well go full throttle now
decimation: yeah I get the fact that it is a compiler, but why would you want to use it to compile itself and then use the compiler to recreate the target lisp?
BingoBoingo: Oh, wait till the Minzors approach with offers
asciilifeform: quantcase << i always wondered, where do these figures come from? sheep entrails?
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much distilled trendsetters over there, no hipsters allowed.
asciilifeform: decimation: 'sbcl' is a compiler. (a very spiffy compiler, that you can generally use in precisely the same ways folks used primitive interpreter-only lisps, but still a compiler.)
asciilifeform: decimation: what's the mystery here?
BingoBoingo: Mostly to get an idea of what we find acceptable for ads, when we start getting solicitations for other ads
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not yet. We are playing with the idea of a single ad
mircea_popescu: shit, if only the transfer weren't a zipfile, i could be 50k richer
mircea_popescu: "Congratulation, Transfer $50,000 has been today transferred the account, attached is the transfer copy ( proof of payment) for your view."
Vexual: hi, how goes the qntra.net traffic?
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
asciilifeform: incidentally, imho one of the best ways to learn about the character of someone you recently met, is to watch him solve puzzle.
nubbins`: the invisible mayo
mircea_popescu: but anyway, granted, the classical terminology is geometry & finesse.
mircea_popescu: finesse is the ability to make mayonaise by hand. a practice, anyone can be taught it.
asciilifeform: finesse: convince deer to shoot himself in the head with one bullet.
asciilifeform: hence why they are memorable.
asciilifeform: all the linked puzzles have this property.
nubbins`: "Suppose A, B, C and D denote the points on the sides of the square, in order. Connect A and C. Draw a perpendicular from B to the segment AC. Let point D0 lie on the perpendicular given that the distance BD0 is the same as the length of AC. Then D0 belongs to the same side (or extension of the side) of the square as D. See Figure 14. Once we know from DD0 how the square is oriented, the rest is easy."
mircea_popescu: there are of course a bunch of iterative solutions to this problem, but that's "with computer" not ruler&compass.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i get the idea, but i dun see that it's such a good idea, either for us or for them
asciilifeform: (the original 'jewish puzzles' article quoted in earlier link: http://www.3038.org/press/shen.pdf )
cazalla: or better yet, we just scrap adverts all together and do trilema credits model
cazalla: rather than big ass banner at top of site, which we tried earlier
cazalla: that won't keep the advert current once new news is posted
mircea_popescu: if people want links let them go the original route, do something newsworthy. have a designated pr liaison and there you go.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, we discussed using text links either above/below each article as well, thoughts?
mircea_popescu: this isn't THAT bad on either score.
asciilifeform: (for n00bz: in honest olympiad, the puzzles are either same for all players, or come out of a hat)
cazalla: mircea_popescu, you should've seen the huge ass banner BingoBoingo put up before we settled on the box on sidebar :P
asciilifeform: in final rounds of an olympiad, judges select problems for the players individually
asciilifeform: that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals.'
asciilifeform: 'This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jewish people and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution
cazalla: maybe it's just related to the ipad 2
cazalla: can someone load a post on their mobile and see if there is a big white gap between navbar and the post itself?
mircea_popescu: so teachers can laugh at dumb fucking kids entrhalled with their new magic
mircea_popescu: anyway, where i'm from it's traditionally given to 15-16yos taking their first year of analysis
mircea_popescu: well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but in the same vein of "hard problems, if you're new here", you know the two trains and fly one im sure
mircea_popescu: if you can fuck her with the cock, why use your finger ?
mircea_popescu: (people that object readily to "oh but comets can fly and no engine there" be confused as to what "energy density" means. calculate v**2 for comet)
mircea_popescu: well, what is this if not the intellectual rape channel ? that's what we do, we spoil noobs.
mircea_popescu: there's a limit to the smallest energy density that can fly, period, no matter any other considerations
asciilifeform: that's the answer i got, when this puzzle was given to me, yes
mircea_popescu: do the energy calculation, friction vs lift.
asciilifeform: (exercise for student. can you posit a planet such that steam airplane - using reciprocating engine - functions there? gravity must be less than ours, but atmosphere dense enough to create lift at achievable speeds and propeller thrust)
asciilifeform: sometimes, however, the gizmo cares how implemented. (consider the case of the airplane, which stubbornly resisted being powered by steam engine on account of the latter's poor power-to-mass ratio. etc)
mircea_popescu: lol. i dun care how they implement it.
mircea_popescu: i'm not arguing something like "o, you know, there's no way around it". more like, "why the fuck should finding ways around it even be a consideration at all"
mircea_popescu: what does it use otherwise ?
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kakobrekla: actually there are several text editors for windows that eat 100mb file like nothing
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mircea_popescu: so here's a simple computing test for your platform. 1) open a 100mb text file. if your editor croaks, you're running windows. 2) go to the end and depress the pageup key. count to sixty / wait a full minute. depress the key. if the scroll stops immediately you are running good unix. if it keeps going... well...
xanthyos: the fucking MUSLIMS do it?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It's actually a traditional think in Iran and Turkey. Also... Those regions lead the world in this sort of injury.
mod6: pop goes the weasel
xanthyos: i masturbate as infrequently as possible but when i go i empty the thing
punkman: but I expected a bit more after the fuckers drilled into my jaw-bone or whatever
xanthyos: the socialist NHS has to cut costs somewhere, eh?
xanthyos: are you in the uk?
punkman: I had surgery to remove a tricky wisdom toothonce and they sent me on my way with 2 paracetamol tablets
cazalla: xanthyos, share the love
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That used to be the deal, but no more
cazalla: xanthyos, chicks dig scars.. why in pain though? i thought you guys can have as much oxy as one pleases there?
xanthyos: they made it like it was something to be embarassed over
BingoBoingo: I got hit with the dilaudid during ball crisis this spring.
xanthyos: i can see why people ruin their lives for heroin
punkman: how did you break the thing anyway?
BingoBoingo: lol, fucking urologists have the punniest names
xanthyos: the surgeon's name was Richard Frink
xanthyos: can't take the gauze off my cock until saturday
Pierre_Rochard: right now I'm setting it up so that other pacioli servers can import the invoices / purchase orders
Pierre_Rochard: ah, I see, I'll add those options once I've shipped v0.1. Thank you for the idea
punkman: Pierre_Rochard: well you know one guy wants JSON, other guy wants CSV, make it so it's not hard to use something other than the default
MissShibe: Just dropping by cryptocurrency channels looking for others who are interested in exploring legal action at this stage
MissShibe: Great, I will let the organisers know!
BingoBoingo: So when you want get to the point where you want to do interviews and such about lawsuit, there is scam hating journo outfit to go to
TomServo: +mircea_popescu | show, don't tell. when you tell a) everyone knows you're lying, whethetr you are not not and b) nobody can be bothered to go look anymore. fucking show. always. << Wouldn't this also apply to your qntra article?
thestringpuller: got the poster nubbins
cazalla: trixisowned, you could've gone about this in a better fashion and outlining one scam is not an endorsement of others, if anything, this speaks more to qntra's need for a chinese to english writer
cazalla: RE: huobi drama from earlier - i'm shitcanning pete's article on basis a) a post on reddit is rarely a reliable source b) i can't read chinese so it is difficult to confirm/verify what the links in the post on reddit claims
The20YearIRCloud: the slummy parts at least
jurov: lol The20YearIRCloud you'll soon get sizable chunk of ohio
mircea_popescu: physicist turned metaphysician under the guise of psychiatry.
mircea_popescu: show, don't tell. when you tell a) everyone knows you're lying, whethetr you are not not and b) nobody can be bothered to go look anymore. fucking show. always.
mircea_popescu: "The similarities between Huobi and Stock Generation are striking." << orly ?
mircea_popescu: this shit needs actual work. with the head. make a point, and make it interesting.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski i hate your articlke, fwiw. broadly because it's a very lazy stitching together of unexplained quotes, narrowly because wtf, qntra now links to wikipedia ? splendid, we're building a total alternative over here.
mircea_popescu: <trixisowned> There was no way to contact whoever made the post BingoBoingo << like http://qntra.net/contact/ ?
mircea_popescu: the fact that a bunch of scams are a bunch of scams, from icbit onwards does not mean that pointing out one particular scam as a scam is "supporting the others".
trixisowned: [11:40:47] <<trixisowned>> ERROR: please fill the required fields (name, email).
trixisowned: and there was no way to post a comment
assbot: Huobi Reboots Stock Generation-Style Ponzi Scheme, Is this possible with other BTC/Futures exchanges? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX2Jvt )
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mwf22/huobi_reboots_stock_generationstyle_ponzi_scheme/ << Now there's a reddit to make sure the OKcoin model can be highlighted as broken too
trixisowned: who is the CTO of OkCoin
trixisowned: er, thats a comment, but read the whole thread
trixisowned: especially when the fucking okcoin shills are about pushing their "OKCOIN HAS NO FEES WHY DONT YOU TRADE THERE!" bullshit
trixisowned: which is not the thing to do
trixisowned: huobi is the bad guy and people will just go and shill off to okcoin
trixisowned: among all the exchanges
kakobrekla: you know, they at least self certified
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2014 19:56:44; kakobrekla: TeraExchange self certified their Bitcoin Non-Deliverable Forwards swaps contract and it is currently listed for trading.
trixisowned: but this is the second "article"
BingoBoingo: ^ Perhaps the case is that the model is broken, but Huobi is the one where problems have happened
trixisowned: are doing the same shit
trixisowned: when ALL the futures exchanges
trixisowned: ive noticed multiple people trying to portray huobi as the bad one
trixisowned: It's the truth
BingoBoingo: <trixisowned> Maybe you should warn about ALL of the futures exchanges rather than portraying yourself as biased.
BingoBoingo: <trixisowned> All three futures exchanges (OkCoin, Huobi, 796) use the same exact formula to get this "loss" calculation.
pete_dushenski: lol just noticed the little fluffer
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The Favicon artwork doesn't look great at avatar resolution, hence the bunny
assbot: They Stumbled Across This In The Woods... Beneath It Was A Terrifyingly Awesome Secret. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xWYNuD )
pete_dushenski: http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-german-bunker-gallery/29/?mb=out << "even though they're using cyrillic text on their signs and we can't read it, it's a GERMAN bunker!"
nubbins`: thestringpuller dat missed delivery
mircea_popescu: i predict we will see the day when that's what it's gonna say.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no idea, sorta faded off.