fluffypony: remember the copy protection on old games
fluffypony: the red ants still give me nightmares
thestringpuller: that's by the dude who made Black and White, all his games are simulation based I thought.
thestringpuller: lol all the radiation!!!!
mircea_popescu: simcity ? yeah back in the msdos days.
empyex: thestringpuller: Next conference starts in 4 months and 10 days. Estimated cost today: 3.49882047 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
empyex: thestringpuller: Next conference starts in 4 months and 10 days. Estimated cost today: 3.49882047 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, the places everyone tries to sell tourists on. as the only people clueless enough to not realise that... wait a minute!
mircea_popescu: porn is a marginal business everywhere, and so... they'd be better off filming in ohio.
mircea_popescu: the only thing a foreign porn company "rending in puerto madero" does is send the local whores (perfectly happy to swallow for 200 pesos, otherwise) the message that they should overcharge. which they will.
mircea_popescu: which makes them completely uninteresting to actual renters.
mircea_popescu: which makes the people involved more interested in supporting an image than providing a service
mircea_popescu: so instead of the judge selling them by courthouse auction, they keep having lifelines extended
mircea_popescu: they're not actually closed out, because argentina is still very far away from a working market economy. these people'd be humiliated by the market, they're politically and socialy connected, can't have that.
mircea_popescu: ba failed to be seattle, and the costs of credit rose fantastically.
mircea_popescu: for the bystander : puerto madero is this overdeveloped zone that cost a lot of money, financed years ago on the theory that whatever, b-a is going to be seattle.
mircea_popescu: mthreat i already know they'll fail.
adlai: "He wrapped himself in quotations, as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors." Rudyard Kipling
adlai: wow, crap at the footer of https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Chinese_meridians.JPG is almost timecube
mircea_popescu: so today i made the discovery that after sleeping in a half foot long ankle hobble, girl is much more respectful, obedient an' restrained generally.
adlai: mircea_popescu: this is lame/overstretched joke, explaining trilema's popularity in india by analogy to the parody article. tl;dr: this is dog
Anduck: i mean the 2nd sentence of yours, it's got a point
Anduck: hanbot: please carefully review the original "discussion" and think
Anduck: hanbot: what the fuck?
mircea_popescu: (the "AKA Satoshi Nakamoto, founder of the Bitcoin" part is lulziest. have you founded the bitcoin, sir ?)
mircea_popescu: mike_c: BingoBoingo: I'll write that up once the snsa statement hits the wire. <<< it's skipping this period.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6M3VrPyFyY << perhaps the source of your suffering.
ben_vulpes: i suspect its the 19yo queer girl who "doesn't put substances in her body" that ordered this miserable filth delivered to my door.
ben_vulpes: <punkman> mircea_popescu: well the racks are closed at least << these aren't the racks you're looking for
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : today in b-a, "best jabs are the completely impredictable, entirely baseless shit nobody expects".
mircea_popescu: all you black girls sound the same
ben_vulpes is still reeling from the "rural america jab"
mircea_popescu: (yeah, trilema actually does get these types of searches. in romanian.)
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2014 15:32:41; Anduck: why the fuck all mircea-popescu followers here have to talk like he does
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2014#947569 << am i the only one to notice the logs are getting increasingly bizarre ?
ben_vulpes: but why rural america? i don't live in the boonies and the company office is fifteen blocks north
ben_vulpes: i've *been* in the leasing company's office.
ben_vulpes: probably the dyke upstairs.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you're being hit on, by a bunch of bored chicks stuck in a beancounter job in rural america and the social skills of a box of liverjournals.
ben_vulpes: the best part was the awful awful awful christmas card signed by the office staff with nothing but signatures inside.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i suspek the guy's trying to be fringe & controversial rather than anything unsavory.
assbot: Wikipedia won't stop BEGGING for cash - despite sitting on $60m • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1w34G9l )
jurov: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/01/penniless_and_desperate_wikipedia_sits_on_60m_cash/ dunno i have seen this somewhere
hanbot: FBI agents just stormed the building, came in here without a search warrant or anything, Fappy The Anti-Masturbation Dolphin, a mascot for the group, told CNN. << lol
jurov: the perils of ingesting information via phone on crowded bus...
hanbot: Anduck: why so hostile? << stop interpreting gracious attempts to refine your idiocy into something usable as "hostile". people who don't make things as easy as possible for you aren't your enemies, they're your teachers. refusing to engage in the lesson ensures you'll stay comfortably stupid.
Anduck: why the fuck all mircea-popescu followers here have to talk like he does
fluffypony: [15:31:11] <DanMAbraham>I was wondering what you peeps think about my new drawing, I did it to show the cute 11-year old girls (and the ones close to that age) how much I love em! Would love feedback! [ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=806419096066011&set=pcb.806419262732661&type=1&theater ]
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-internet-race-gap/
assbot: Westerners Now Regret Joining ISIS. Should We Take Them Back? - Wah! ISIS proves to be a drag for first-world recruits. | Guff News ... ( http://bit.ly/1CUYs0g )
mircea_popescu: http://guff.com/westerners-now-regret-joining-isis-should-we-take-them-back/ << i wonder.
mircea_popescu: rdymac prolly a good idea to have your pgp key added to the page anyway.
mircea_popescu: https://electrum.org/community.html << none of the three keys listed there matc hes 637E773CF6DDEE8F009F84616930CFE70FA4130C
rdymac: I manage translations, made the complete Spanish translation of Electrum, also help with design and webpage, bug hunter and social media
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
punkman: mircea_popescu: well the racks are closed at least
mircea_popescu: course, in the case of servers that may not hold.
mircea_popescu: punkman they do that shit in romania too.
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4HAyfoCEAA3ZxW.jpg "This is a Russian priest sprinkling holy water on the central bank's servers in an attempt to stop the fall of ruble."
mircea_popescu: anyway, i can imagine the "responsible people" working 8 hours a day "typing in chat". they're like, on the street, in bars, imagining they may talk to women and so forth.
mircea_popescu: why do you bother poor mr dr.
punkman: "A new Forex/bitcoin platform is looking for responsible people to work 8 hours a day 7 days a week, typing on their chat. You will be required to post every 1-4minutes while focusing on the topic of Forex trading and cyrptocurrency."
mircea_popescu: wow you're the guy that sent some blogger a copy of his greencard ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: is the blockchain cpu-bound on ssds *and* spinny-drives? << not really. afaik the bitcoind was always IO bound, either on memory or more usually disk. but i guess some people somewhere run shitty enough systems that it's the cpu.
mircea_popescu: what they're actually saying is, "you'd never pay for us to do things you don't want done but we do, so gotta force you to pay". which proper restatement of the argument is of course too plain for their taste.
mircea_popescu: and you're telling me the local school or w/e couldn't, IF IT WERE ANY USEFUL.
mircea_popescu: i mean... the fucking commie party of the at-the-time enemy of the us could have lived off fucking us citizen ~donations~
mircea_popescu: to... essentially... build an experimental prison camp. or to leave to the communist party of ussr.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, completely insane and otherwise entirely pointless derps like the jones dude got TENS OF MILLIONS of 1970s dollars in donations
mircea_popescu: you know, reading on this people's temple thing... the general pro-state argument is that o noes, donation powered police department and government generally "wouldn't work" because "people won't pay, gotta tax!"
fluffypony: yeah so obviously whoever is controlling the Twitter account at the moment can't sign a message as any of those three
fluffypony: I haven't seen the tweet, but in the Electrum source in pubkeys/ there are a bunch of GPG keys
fluffypony: also verifying you are who you say you are through GPG isn't related to the WoT
fluffypony: rdymac: lots of people have trust relationships in the WoT without having traded
rdymac: maybe Roger Ver can handle the reward
fluffypony: maybe Reddit should campaign to have the hacker murdered
cazalla: fluffypony, why ya gotta ruin the fun i was about to have :(
rdymac: and the following racist ones, yes
cazalla: rdymac, the niggers one?
ben_vulpes: is the blockchain cpu-bound on ssds *and* spinny-drives?
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs#batteries-included << notice the *complete* absence of lisp.
Naphex: cazalla: as far as I know, Netopia atm only added the option. Merchants have to opt-in
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: the doom that came to punkbot
gribble: punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <punkman> http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com/?
mircea_popescu: no but i mean... the kid's clearly trying, which is good.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user jyap: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=jyap | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jyap | Rated since: never
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: well this was the 90s
assbot: Logged on 24-10-2014 04:33:56; decimation: "There's been a mackerel economy in federal prisons since about 2004, former inmates and some prison consultants say. That's when federal prisons prohibited smoking and, by default, the cigarette pack, which was the earlier gold standard."
mircea_popescu: http://dragosmone.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/carpati-fara-filtru.jpg < these things. unfiltered.
mircea_popescu: anyway. at the time a carton was ~$2.50
mircea_popescu: one day they had one of those convict crews doing some roadwork in front o' my house as i went shopping
undata: mircea_popescu: back when I used to smoke I would only sell them to bums, never give them away
mircea_popescu: that the free and happy people of jonestown i mean new york are more than happy to pay 18 bucks for
Pierre_Rochard: ^ well let’s not blame obesity! or too high of cigarette taxes! it was surely just the fascist police brutality!
mircea_popescu: guy was too fat to breathe on his back basically.
Pierre_Rochard: the cop in question was just cleared by a grand jury of any wrong doing
undata: can't have people just selling things... on the street!
assbot: I'm happy they killed that nigger Eric Garner. /hashtag/Holocaust2?src=hash /hashtag/KillEmAll?src=hash
mircea_popescu: this is the process known as "bootstrapping"
ben_vulpes: not like it's usable 'till you have the whole thing anyways.
ben_vulpes: download the blockchain torrent style, verify and stitch the segments together as appropriate.
ben_vulpes: i can't help but think that the serial download is entirely unnecessary.
Pierre_Rochard: gernika: submit a pull request if you have the time!
mircea_popescu: but they help with the indexing, which was an issue esp on bdb, and they may also help with tx related stuff
ben_vulpes: sure, but processing is cpu bound, so if you skip ESDA there's a speedup to be had.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they don't speed up the download per se, because blocks are still downloaded
ben_vulpes: on the fly, yeah.
ben_vulpes: would it be possible to replace the checkpoints with randomized sampling of specific blocks' signatures?
ben_vulpes: if i'm reading this correctly, checkpoints speed up the blockchain download process as signatures aren't checked, but they're assumed valid if the signature on the checkpoint blocks passes.
mircea_popescu: (ie, the checkpoints are actually valid)
mircea_popescu: the proper operation of bitcoin is trustless. there's nothing it needs to trust in a no=chekcpoint scenario.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, is this news that Netopia mobilPay enabled 6,000 merchants in .ro to accept bitcoin same beat up story as the trillions of .ar merchants taking it?
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> decimation: disk storage is the *bane* of bitcoin testing. << for sure.
ben_vulpes is in the process of standing up an aws instance with a full TB of storage
ben_vulpes: decimation: disk storage is the *bane* of bitcoin testing.
mircea_popescu: this'd be the definition of mouthbreathing lol.
decimation: lol speaking of which https://www.finra.org/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2013/P197636 "The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) today issued a voluntary Interim Form for Funding Portals designed for prospective crowdfunding portals under the JOBS Act."
mircea_popescu: "he acted as an investment broker without a license ?! AND HE DID SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE ?!?!" burn him!!1
mircea_popescu: so they dun want random internet scammers and other non-proper-meta bezzlominds getting any
mircea_popescu: decimation which is why all the legal barriers, it's basically free money for the taking
mircea_popescu: and the less you think about what exactly wl, rd etc are, the better, you can just keep derping between em
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, suggests to me a simple, direct and therefore likely correct explanation of the previously mysterious tendency of english-speaking thinkers to create acronyms.
decimation: heh yeah. In the us, it is common for 'regular people' to roll over their pre-tax retirement savings to investment brokers
mircea_popescu: as tlp would say, "don't change the system, just shuffle among its offerings"
mircea_popescu: "Allan S. Roth is the founder of Wealth Logic, an hourly based financial planning and investment advisory firm that advises clients with portfolios ranging from $10,000 to over $50 million. "
mircea_popescu: decimation it's so amusingly pervasive this. so the cbc article you linked punching holes in the rich dad thing ?
mircea_popescu: they'll just end up exactly where they are now : five to the room, crowded in insalubrious conditions, spending their time voting on reddit
decimation: I suppose those who fail to pay tax will end up in the private courts of those who do
mircea_popescu: decimation hyow the fuck are you going to achieve the respect of your peers if you're a loser lol.
decimation: so you are big on 'voluntary taxes'. what if someone was living in a 'voluntary tax' jurisdiction but did not pay? Do they have the same legal privleges as one who does?
mircea_popescu: in practical economic terms, the unfound amazon tribes are just keeping high import tariffs up.
mircea_popescu: the problem with tariffs is that they economically insulate their jurisdiction, and sooner or later you get left out.
mircea_popescu: if you define labour as per income, then it is by definition.
mircea_popescu: trade tariffs are singularly the most stupid taxation font in existence.
ben_vulpes: the way i understand it is that company a owns the assets, b leases them which reduces its apparent income. lease payments come into a and are not categorized as passive investment income.
mircea_popescu: general motors did the same thing and mostly survived
ben_vulpes: hang on let me dig up the language
decimation: is this to avoid the business propery tax?
decimation: ben_vulpes: like you lease your own property to the company?
ben_vulpes: tax man has brought to my attention the tax benefits in this country of leasing equipment to your own companies.
decimation: "“Currently, approximately $1B in production spending can be expected to deliver $500M-$600M in profits,” the letter says. “Through his continued focus on financial discipline, Doug hopes to improve that ratio to a point where $800-$900M in production spending delivers $500-$600M in profits.”"
assbot: Sony Hack Reveals Top-Secret Profitability of 2013 Movies - The Hollywood Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9voOs )
decimation: mircea_popescu: did you see that the 'ultimates' for the sony movies were released as part of the sony hack? http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-hack-reveals-top-secret-754491
decimation: well, I guess they were looking for some answers. The answer they got was: you joined a death-cult
mircea_popescu: all i ever heard about that thing was that it was a dreary shithole in the mud
decimation: every spammer in the us works hard every day to attemp to bypass the bayes filter in my head
decimation: eh? I have nothing to do with these idiots
mircea_popescu: decimation that's the onem right!
mircea_popescu: wow check it out, that bad ? this is like the publishing business.
mircea_popescu: where they shot a tv producer and some senator ?
decimation: it's in the genes
mircea_popescu: apparently everything anyone's doing there anymore is some sort of attempt to create a miniworld or other.
mircea_popescu: wait, there's more to that than just a derpy book from a decade ago ?
mircea_popescu: he had said so at the time iirc.
assbot: Safety, liveness and fault tolerance—the consensus choices | Stellar ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9nNzp )
mircea_popescu: "He studied at Harvard until the First World War broke out in 1914. At that point, aged 23, he returned to Canada and joined the Canadian army in Halifax and was assigned to the Cyclist Corps of the Second Division, Canadian Expeditionary Force."
assbot: $296M in Bitcoin spending on Black Friday and Cyber Monday made it the 9th largest payment network in the world! http://t.co/jlTVDinyZf
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-weird-of-web-metrics/
assbot: The weird of web "metrics" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9cXJN )
mircea_popescu: punkman basically it meshes half sentences from the two huh.
mircea_popescu: "oh, setting our house on fire doesn't work ? I KNOW! let's set the house on fire WITH GASOLINE!"
mircea_popescu: adlai the only somewhat amusing / incredible if you're new thing about that entire stellar debacle is that... people still pretend like ripple's a thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well of course they smell nice!
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> now it's inanities like the street tax to pave the ghetto. << srsly, paving the ghetto, for as long as it uses forced labour of the inhabitants and very rudimentary tools, and it's done in the middle of the summer, is a splendid idea.
mircea_popescu: the various defeated and meanwhile extinct tribes from the amazon valley to the pacific rim being the exact proof of this concept.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE INTERPRETATION << actually, the deeper reason is that masculinity is inextricably linked to the species,
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Namworld: My darn cat just opens cupboard and so on and claws bag open to eat pastas and so on... I'll need big plastic container to store pasta and so on in accessible locations, and keep the rest in places he can't get in.
ben_vulpes: once upon a time it was the schools, and there were bonds, and the people paid, and nothing changed.
ben_vulpes: undata: "street tax" << my parents have called portland a "benevolent communist state" for as long as i've lived here. it's only recently started to pass its inflection points letting the impoverished demand more and more.
ben_vulpes: paas wars are the db wars of 2015
ben_vulpes: THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE INTERPRETATION
assbot: Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8pRYk )
mircea_popescu: im gonna run http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/ will publish teh results.
gernika: I was able to collect email addresses via a signup page running an FB campaign at one time. Don't recall the conversion percentage at the moment but at that time at least there were real people clicking.
Namworld: Eh, Facebook is either shit at filtering bots or just plain out scammers.
mircea_popescu: Namworld can you be bothered to run a similar thing for me ? it's been half a year since i last tried them, moar lulz can't hurt.
Namworld: So unless there's other Bitcoin advertisers running bots, unlikely to target bot accounts. But stats still points to dodgy stuff. So I guess the majority is still bots.
Namworld: No, just by adding the term Bitcoin to targeting. So basically people that liked pages and so on or occasionally mention the term "Bitcoin", I believe.
Namworld: Just by selecting people that have "Bitcoin" in their interests.
asciilifeform: (not because there had to be a mechanical defense against it. no mechanical pill against 'buy all the coins and throw into the sea.' but attempting this gambit, given a properly-designed coin, should cost above $maxint.)
asciilifeform: if you can do the 'centralize' trick, it was always defective.
asciilifeform: recall the 'software does not wear out' article.
punkman: I don't think Stellar was ever decentralized. They just had more than one server.
mircea_popescu: neither of these being either obvious or desirable, and their conjunction being why the coin in question - stellar or whatever - is dead.
mircea_popescu: but the actual choice is between "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent - certain to be followed - of converting it overnight into a centrally owned resource" and "destroying the long term viability of the coin through introducing precedent of arbitrarily lost funds"
Namworld: It might be that facebook ad bots don't tend to have Bitcoin in their interest... at least yet. Hence why demographic looks accurate.
mircea_popescu: obviously if given the incorrectly statement "choice is obvious". a whole new mode of rational failure the us invented, "begging "the obvious" choice", similar to "begging the question"
mircea_popescu: gernika lulzy. i wonder if we see the same nonsense emerge in btc.
assbot: Joyce from Stellar here. Yes, that is correct. When given the choice between tem... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1G34g5Z )
gernika: mircea_popescu: "When given the choice between temporary centralization and guaranteeing the security of the protocol and therefore user funds, the choice is obvious. Once the new consensus algorithm is complete, it will be safe to run with more than one node again." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8709514
Namworld: Eh, $50 for the heck of it and there was actually sales, but I didn't put a tracking link so hard to say. I have to change that immediately.
mircea_popescu: because brothers before bitchez, yo!
mircea_popescu: notably, athletes at the turn of the century (their dream briefly came through in the 60s, now it seems fucked again), and military men althrough the 1800s.
mircea_popescu: <undata> several generations of Americans at least believe that this is precisely what success looks like: you buy and sell a few houses and your life is on autopilot from then on << in their defense, all generations since the industrial revolution chiefly believed that this is what success looks like : you do a few things and that's that.
Namworld: The demographic isn't as random as I'd usually see, it's 66% males between 18-35
mircea_popescu: generally the business experience on the topic being that paying for someone to do the tech part and for someone to do the business part comes to 1-35% more than the value of the refunded clicks.
punkman: Namworld: if enough volume, you gotta look at your logs and ask them to refund some of the scamclicks
mircea_popescu: ;;google how i trolled my imbecile roommate by custom tailoring the ads facebook showed him (nevermind what either having roommates or hanging out with imbeciles says about me).
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2014 20:43:36; ThickAsThieves: facebook ads are the worst performance of like all options, other than for some very specific uses
mircea_popescu: Namworld: uh... Facebook ads system numbers are dodgy <<< welcome to the club ? fb is a scam. this has been said here i dunno how many times, but by pretty much everyone ever involved.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: back to ddosing websites by the looks of it << did it only last 5 minutes or do i liek magically not see it again
punkman: there are countless ad clicking bots on Facebook, doing "competitive intelligence"