pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes well... no, not yet. though it seems like an appropriate thing to add to the 2015 resolutions
thestringpuller: that's cause the payment processors only validate whether or not the account should go through or not
pete_dushenski: right, you'd think low-margin operators like costco would do the bubble tea store style of cash/debit only
ben_vulpes: what's the restocking cost for 2 cosco-sized shopping carts?
pete_dushenski: but the feez!
thestringpuller: "We only accept Amex" << that's the complete inverse of what you normally hear
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel stumpwm it is, although the nomenclature stems from ratpoison unless if i'm doing my archaeology correctly
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller heya rap star
pete_dushenski: the last time i was in a costco they didn't accept cash, visa, or mastercard, only amex and debit
cazalla: and then i can get a special deal on 20kg of hfcs eh
pete_dushenski: then borrow someone's card at checkout
pete_dushenski: cazalla if you go on a busy saturday you can just point to someone else in line and say that you're "with them"
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i can't say i've been despite one opening around the corner from here a year ago.. pay to enter? what sort of american scheme is that?
pete_dushenski: every major city is either in the process of building a mega-opulent conferenceplex or has already done so in the last 5 years
cazalla: thestringpuller, top fucking kek eh but what can ya do, people love these events for some reason even if they are nothing more than an herbalife pitchfest
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The search for decency and the opposite of iatrogenics | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ydPvwk )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/31/the-search-for-decency-and-the-opposite-of-iatrogenics/
assbot: The big box store that wasn’t, and other Australian architectural marvels | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ydPnNm )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/24/the-big-box-store-that-wasnt-and-other-australian-architectural-marvels/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: cazalla: "I helped run plenty of conferences. I do have an idea. The priority is to make sure you have a conference that runs well enough that people don't notice the problems, and that everyone who paid to attend it gets their money's worth. Who actually paid to make it happen is a bit lower on the priority." << LOL FUCKING L
PeterL: I admit I was jumping up and down and shouting at my TV as the MSU Spartans pulled out a tight win
decimation: I would like to put in a good word for KnC miner. I ordered a Neptune from them last year (paid in bitcoin), I later canceled the order, and they wired the fiat to my bank (my choice). It took them 6 months to pay, but they paid.
assbot: cazalla662 comments on Josh Garza must not be allowed to speak at the Miami Bitcoin Conference! ... ( http://bit.ly/176NEy4 )
cazalla: ;;rate rassah -1 thinks it is too difficult to vet speakers but not too difficult to collect sponsorship money from them http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2r0twz/josh_garza_must_not_be_allowed_to_speak_at_the/cnbuxyx?context=3
decimation: who would bet against the inflation machine?
decimation: re: professions being continuously destroyed: http://www.nachi.org/forum/f58/home-depot-now-rents-out-flir-cameras-58176/ << hilarity - 'home inspectors' are whining that you can now rent an infrared camera from the local hardware store - now who is gonna pay for their 'service'?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: "they're all wired up. this is cattle country.
ben_vulpes: "banishing" the mouse to the lower left will trigger a dock emergence, and "banishing" the mouse to the upper right will similarly trigger a "menu bar" animation.
ben_vulpes: further adventures in bending macos to my will: the "menu bar" is hideable via configuring X11 to launch in "presentation mode", but afaik that space is still unusable.
xanthyos: not to mention i think my bankroll is much lower than the average #b-a regular
xanthyos: yes, if they are different people.
cazalla: i'd much rather play with people who play every single hand to the river than a bunch of folk with a VPIP of 10-15% even if they 'respect my hand' and fold
xanthyos: also i'd rather play against several great players than one shitty player who is running 5 bots on the same table
xanthyos: unless you have the nuts
xanthyos: poker's designed that way so there's always outs
xanthyos: the hand never favors you enough to not want to be able to take it down when you want
cazalla: why would you want idiots to fold? you want them to stay in and put even more money in the pot
cazalla: xanthyos, i don't see the edge in playing with smart folk from here, at least for me personally, wot or no wot
xanthyos: rather than playing networks of collusion bots
xanthyos: each account authenticated as a separate individual with wot accountability
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: so I sometime get redirected to "Verified By Visa" page, always click "No thanks" button. This time it was disabled. I enabled it and clicked, didn't work. Decide to fill out the fucking form, didn't work. Maybe I should post form again...
thestringpuller: they are experts
thestringpuller: xanthyos: well gpg authing into the poker engine provides some level of non-repduiation
xanthyos: pokerstars auth isn't as complicated as gpg so you might want to have a policy that each player has to prove themselves in irc before each game
xanthyos: thestringpuller: what if we created a #bitcoin-assets pokerstars home game club and had a way that every account generated was tied to a gribble-authed account, and use it as both a gaming platform as well as a record-keeping ledger for off-blockchain track of wins and losses
punkman: there's a couple open source irc poker bots
xanthyos: pokerstars is my favorite but i can't buy in from the US
xanthyos: the site is horrendous though, do not deposit
xanthyos: punkman: there's a 2 BTC freeroll on nitrogensports.eu registration starts in 1.5 hours and it starts 2 housr after that
xanthyos: dubs is a friend of danielpbarron and mine, we go back years and he's down on his luck, homeless, and not very good at accepting help graciously or taking technical directions. the wot could save him if he'd put in the least bit of effort
fluffypony: cazalla: Gordhan is a smart man, but they're doing exactly as expected - they're just going to copy what everyone else is doign
kakobrekla: i changed the voting system a few times.
cazalla: i distinctly remember the top ones disappearing
mod6: looks like decimation scored the highest bash of 2014: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=304
kakobrekla: so due to this thing called new year there is 57 bets waiting resolution. good luck to the mods.
cazalla: thestringpuller, of course
assbot: The Bitcoin Network Regains Positive Momentum As It Enters 2015. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1wC5Bcm )
cazalla: ah scoopbot must be out partying.. http://qntra.net/2014/12/the-bitcoin-network-regains-positive-momentum-as-it-enters-2015/
ben_vulpes: and also the increasing difficulty of finding capable labor.
ben_vulpes: gossip from the glider club: guys in construction (yachts etc) are talking about 5% cogs increases every month for the past 33
cazalla: xanthyos, another cop beating?
assbot: Schneier on Security: More Data on Attributing the Sony Attack ... ( http://bit.ly/1vGxGzX )
TomServo: I'm surprised ol' Brucey Bruce isn't parroting the "OMG NK!!1" line.
mod6: someone kicked their rig back on
gribble: ben_vulpes was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 15 hours, 52 minutes, and 1 second ago: <ben_vulpes> the man goes on vacation and *boom*
thestringpuller: "It's physically difficult work and you will get other people's shit on you, but on the other hand, plumbers contribute more to society than most programmers."
thestringpuller: "There's the field that I keep threatening to quit computers for: plumbing. One plumber I dealt with once told me that he makes more than most doctors. Of course, you have to go through a long apprenticeship and journeyman period during which you don't make nearly that much. "
Apocalyptic: was about to ask if he did take the pankkake's way out
dvsdude: i see tat on the tv chat...i think
adlai was always aware of the PR industry existing, but never thought of it as a separate entity from, even a competitor to, the advertising business
adlai: "Reporters sometimes call a few additional sources on their own, like someone adding a few fresh vegetables to a can of soup." http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
BingoBoingo: No, went to strip club because drunk and ponies were done running at the track.
BingoBoingo: I've been to Usian strip clubs before I know that the American Negress will bleed anything of value that that can imagine exists from a strip club patron.
BingoBoingo: Only if you are into the dark meat
BingoBoingo: Anyone here have thoughts about Makati the Phillipines?
BingoBoingo: Why does my brother pretend he has not the slightest bit of racism in him yet when he moves to the city chooses a Bosnian neighborhood over a black neighborhood?
BingoBoingo: World revolves around these dilemas. Why am I right handed but left eye dominant?
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Not necessarily ouch to me. You have to remember the part where generally I am a despicable human being.
BingoBoingo: Eh. If anyone takes relationship advice from me they deserve whatever calamity befalls them.
devthedev: The reply aught to be interesting
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Who am I not?
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
thestringpuller: another dead hero
thestringpuller: http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/voice-of-babe-dexter-on-dexters-laboratory-chuckie-on-rugrats-christine-cavanaugh-1963-2014-rip-20141230 << so the original dexter died
assbot: Slashdot Asks: The Beanies Return; Who Deserves Recognition for 2014? - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xfakWr )
asciilifeform: 'Turns out through the S3 API you can actually spin up EC2 instances, and my key had been spotted by a bot that continually searches GitHub for API keys. Amazon AWS customer support informed me this happens a lot recently, hackers have created an algorithm that searches GitHub 24 hours per day for API keys
Once it finds one it spins up max instances of EC2 servers to farm itself bitcoins
' << mega-lol!
assbot: Enjoy the last day of 2014. Stay positive, do something meaningful and be happy! :) http://t.co/LSDgbIQfEe
thestringpuller: i wouldn't mind the risk so much if the chance of accidents also provided a chance of developing super powers
BingoBoingo: I don't have a problem with climbing. I have a problem with the possibility of falling.
thestringpuller: tower climbing alone puts the fear of god into me
thestringpuller: the unsung heroes
BingoBoingo: Plain current though doesn't put the fear into me though like RF current does... Reasons I never got into Radio
thestringpuller: "Young negro found dead on set of Mean Girls 3" or some shit they let me work on.
thestringpuller: set electricals are by definition nigga rigged cause they are temporary. always wanted to be a gaffer/set technician myself, but man.
thestringpuller: probably less cause that's waht the volt Snake Bite was rated at (220)
thestringpuller: the doctors have no idea why he's fucked up, but they are like "Yea, well he got shocked so that has something to do with it."
asciilifeform: http://russian.rt.com/article/67122 << another current mega-lol. ua fission plant installs 'westinghouse' fuel rods, begins to leak.
BingoBoingo: 0x00 (borders of windows aligned to kvadroslovu, so the number of pairs
BingoBoingo: after using the register number 0x6f next number will be
BingoBoingo: From machine translation: Since the structure of stacks of information and communication procedures identical
asciilifeform: in that they get placed how you like
asciilifeform: whereas when you lay out logic for a traditionally fabbed ic, the circuits, well, 'move'
asciilifeform: with an sram-controlled plugboard rather than physical one
asciilifeform: fpga is internally very much like the well-known 'eniac'
BingoBoingo: Well, considering Solaris 8 did webserving for them well into the solaris 10 life cycle... Prolly Sun OS 3
asciilifeform: but the answer to the puzzle of what sun used for logic synthesis - i haven't any idea
BingoBoingo: Sure, but what sphicter sculpts the Xilinx turd.
BingoBoingo: We're talking a company (Sun) that took more than a decade to realize they could assemble systems on benches instead of the floor. They have to have/had a legacy non-winblows tool chain that might still be in use.
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/the-swift-institute-calls-for-research-into-risks-faced-by-third-party-payment-providers/
BingoBoingo: The same way BFL FPGA miners were crippled. Adapted for winblows shit toolchain instead of whatever archane elder less smelly turdchain sun nursed internally.
BingoBoingo: Well, crippled in ways. The seemingly easy ways to uncripple for hardcopy rather than rewritable FPGAs is to VLIW it.
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't make this, has no idea how much plagiarized heathen 'verilog' etc. is in that thing.
asciilifeform: ru-designed mb too - but with, looks like, heathen peripherals
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.computerra.ru/112660/mcst-and-micron-releases-monokub-mb-with-elbrus-2cm-cpu << i don't feel like translating, but - first ru-designed cpu, afaik, this century - hits the press.
BingoBoingo: Bamboo shits are the worst.
jborkl: Haha yeah we don't want to shit on by the panda
BingoBoingo: OMG MP vacation has been one of the best things to happen to MPOE price... aside from saving OpenBSD.
undata: BingoBoingo: you're going to what, attack me via the locally running emacs?
BingoBoingo: undata: Are you really listing all of these particular pieces of software you depend on.
undata: emacs is on the laptop, mail and IRC are elsewhere
undata: BingoBoingo: oh I love emacs; still need something for when you shut the laptop though
BingoBoingo: Come on there isn't a single personal server need that isn't well served by emacs.
undata: Pierre_Rochard: there's always a bouncer
BingoBoingo: Everyone has to solve it in their own way
Pierre_Rochard: I’ll have to cook up a script that logs me in and auths automatically whenever I open my laptop, there’s a pyschological barrier when I have a pile of work to do
undata: BingoBoingo: the video's full of fakers flashing guns
BingoBoingo: undata: Chicago this year is poor example. They had a relatively peaceful year... for SHitcago.
undata: rather, "if it sells"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: then forest fire has ideology
BingoBoingo: But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology...
undata: asciilifeform: yep, during the recent portland "protest" I found a livestream of some hipster there; he was flirting with a girl for the 20sec I watched
asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
asciilifeform: neglected detail being, most of the participants, as i understand, aren't ideologically moved
undata: everybody in america thinks they were somehow robbed of making it big like everyone else did
BingoBoingo: And then the comfortable white suburbanites went to more comfortable and more suburban places. Leaving them with white trash
BingoBoingo: They know of comfortable white suburbanites, but infrequently see them outside of police uniforms.
asciilifeform: who somehow lives off their tears
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, the rioters have no truck with lizard hitler; they protest against an imagined comfortable white suburbanite
BingoBoingo: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We dont own nothing out here!' << what does white man own in usa ? << Common mistake of using the general "white man", Whiteman own nothing for being white. Anglo-Saxon-Lizard hybrids though...
BingoBoingo: I only link it, because apparently tonight there has been yet another shooting incident in Ferguson. No idea yet if a person has been shot.
asciilifeform: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We dont own nothing out here!' << what does white man own in usa ?
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/the-kkk-must-stay-on-the-curb-in-desloge-mo/article_59a8a94e-6a91-593d-a83c-826fa031de76.html
asciilifeform: rather than an actual product with a future.
decimation: the only incentive I can imagine is if the chinese gov't decides to subsidize the project
asciilifeform: i also explained that they have no economic incentive at all to do this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the most that exists is a very straight linux port.
decimation: lol the latest version has 'new instructions' in order to emulate x86 according to wikipedia
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For a long time ARM wasn't either. The point is it exists at the moment mostly to build history so it might seem a credible option later.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for instance, i'm unable to find it advertised for sale at anything like a reasonable price, anywhere on the planet
BingoBoingo: Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
decimation: apparently it is common practice for the vendor to ship broken hardware and paper over defects with a special google-blessed turdware
asciilifeform: the instruction set is 'risc' in name only
asciilifeform: at least intel no longer collects royalties for x86. and does not directly supply the circuit to every producer
asciilifeform: incidentally, i bring up 'arm' to remind folks that we are quickly approaching (or perhaps past) the point of being stuck with a turd every bit as odious as x86
asciilifeform: because that is who ultimately decides what is used in the great slave mines of usa
decimation: if you want to be the dominant computer arch, you want to be the arch that will host the most warez - in the future
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: thx, but i don't need these for anything
decimation: asciilifeform: there is a direct parallel between the 'bubble' that is arm/x86 and the 'bubble' that is 'USD'
kakobrekla: looks like i can also raise another instance
asciilifeform: 'mips' is superior, imho, in virtually every way - and they would crank out mips-en, but where then to crib code wholesale and piecemeal ?
asciilifeform: and for the same reason
asciilifeform: just like ussr stamped out single-crystal pdp-11 clones by the millions.
asciilifeform: china is cranking out arm clones by the billion, and certainly not all of these roll in the royalty? how does it square with my hypothesis? answer - perfectly.
asciilifeform: ' quietly cornered the market in applications where 1) no winblows legacy 2) computation/watt ratio actually matters
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2014 03:52:10; asciilifeform: every day i wonder why the 'arm' architecture so thoroughly beat 'mips' (closest competitor in the 'risc' world) in the markets
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and where are they ordinarily found ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: interesting - who makes these ?
kakobrekla: so if i tell you im compiling the latest bitcoind on an ARM could, do i get expelled from here?
asciilifeform: the latter isn't simply a non-reprogrammable fpga; it has the LUTs of fpga, but with 'wiring' baked into the metallization layers, rather than fpga-style switching fabric
asciilifeform: and, to return to that old thread, i still think that mircea is mistaken about the current crop of miners being something other than 'structured asic'
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2014 18:26:51; asciilifeform: (re: miner asics: anyone who gives a damn can find, in #b-a logs, my reasonably well-supported hypothesis that miner asic never actually -happened.- that is, there are devices, and they - approximately - work, but they are not 'asics' in the traditional sense. more 'hardcopy fpga.' - actual term of art)
kakobrekla: i dun think he was the first and certainly not last.
kakobrekla: another thing that never happened
fluffypony: <mircea_popescu> btw, since i've been reading my old romanian bitcoin articles, landed on some gems. anyone remembers vladimir's asic ? <- what was the story there?
BingoBoingo: http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/cia-takes-blame-for-more-than-half-of-ufo-sightings-in-late-1950s-and-60s/ << The reptilians know we are on to them.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/30/report_finds_police_officers_killed_on_duty_spiked_in_2014.html
assbot: Huge salt spill at Morton Salt in /hashtag/Chicago?src=hash. Will they shovel it over their left shoulders? http://t.co/Ic8vAUuedb
decimation: in the end, Stierlitz goes back to Berlin
decimation: asciilifeform: or 'exit' through the coffin-burner
asciilifeform: of course, if you read pg's piece correctly (i.e. substitute 'exceptionally obedient coolie' for 'exceptional programmer', the contradictions are instamagically resolved.
asciilifeform: 'Question: why doesnt this hypothetical guy, if hes so great and exceptional, just do his own thing? Whats he need Initrode for? Why should he move to a 2 BR/2 BA in Sunnyvale, CA to get a biweekly paycheck?'
decimation: "So basically I’m being told that this is a foreign worker who might add 100X in value and you only have to pay them X.
decimation: the rwcg guy nitpicked the paul graham immigration essay https://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/paul-graham-on-immigration/
kakobrekla: yes like the nsa.
decimation: to 'improve security' to help the little people
kakobrekla: ofc you need to make up the crime as well.
asciilifeform: why the fuck one needs cloudflare or whatever, if blockchain telegraph ?
kakobrekla: then you cant use couldflare :(
asciilifeform: decimation: the relevant boojums are to be produced either in underground workshops, like grenades during warsaw ghetto uprising, or in a foreign land and smuggled in
asciilifeform: decimation: this is why the usual concepts of 'product' and 'market' are to be avoided there.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: illegal radios << yes, this is a route. unfortunately usg is good at finding such products and crushing their makers
BingoBoingo: The worst part of this clusterfuck of errors is I haven't even had a drink yet. Fucking language learning app on the new pet android device robbing my brain of all of its glucose.
asciilifeform: TomServo: 'hangout' is the traditional english term for disinfo
asciilifeform: how did you read either one and not realize this ?
TomServo: In addition to the unsurprising post-Snowden _____? that NSA analysts routinely...
TomServo: BingoBoingo: Did you accidently a word in the second sentence?
BingoBoingo: Honestly Texas is probably going to hell the fastest
assbot: Collected Points From the NSA's Recent Document Dump | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BlbOO2 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/collected-points-from-the-nsas-recent-document-dump/#comment-5242
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/collected-points-from-the-nsas-recent-document-dump/
BingoBoingo: There's also the chance that they want to break things up into enough enclaves that sme sort of conflict homeostasis between them might be the norm.
asciilifeform: 'pseudoliberal/pseudoconservative indoctrination and university- and church-based brainwashing that put it in place, cost them a pretty penny... ...How about leveraging it to organize some sort of rabidly homophobic racist fundamentalist separatist enclave somewhere down south? Or perhaps one somewhere in the north, where zoophilia is de rigeur while heterosexual intercourse requires a special permit from a committee stocked w
asciilifeform: 'The bonus question is, what sort of anti-America will these parasites set up inside America before they abandon their host and scatter to their fortified compounds in undisclosed locations around the world? Or will they not even bother, and just provoke a war of all against all?'