mircea_popescu: those morons, cuz it's really not worth calling the http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#footnote_6_65060 set people, are ~also~ approximately the barney sandals crowd, and the guy fawkes crowd.
asciilifeform must admit nao that asciilifeform has not been following in realtime the tard squeals of recent yr of trumpreich, and so cannot comment on 'orange' etc
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other stray thoughts : isn't it a wonder the "orange man" and the "guy fawkes" memes aren't merging ? << There was some overlap with people wearing gray bodysuits to play NPCs
mircea_popescu: this historical character, who happened to win a presidential election IN SPITE of the wishes of the media machinery and the expectations of their vat-dwelling retards, was re-interpreted for their minor intellectual needs as "orange man" by the same mechanisms.
asciilifeform: naturally the man -- has a history
mircea_popescu: this is a history, whether you know it or not, whether you rubbed shoulders with the chicago outfit back when they were inventing las vegas and the new york set and so on.
asciilifeform: rrright, but was speaking of trump the stage character, as played for ameritard consumption
mircea_popescu: um. trump is an actual physical person, an old guy, son of a magnate, bankrupt a coupla times, very entertaining town fool in the 70s, etc.
mircea_popescu: (for the benefit of sluts nicole's age : a meme is not 'an image with text in thick font sprawled over'. a meme is a virus for the brain ; the ur-example of a meme [ie, ~SPEECH~] being discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-bicameral-world-in-one-room-the-city-dump-in-the-other-room-the-starred-restaurant-do-these-talk-to-each-other-read-on-to-find-out/ )
mircea_popescu: trump also exists from hollywood media for the "orange man" crowd.
asciilifeform: not only this, but worse, the pre-existing selection consists of hollywood (e.g. the guyfawkes meme is not made from the historic personage, but from film 'v for vendetta', where rather different item in turn recycled from older meme)
mircea_popescu: i suppose the bare truth of the matter is that much like bower bird building nest out of what plastic can be found, ustard also, will be fashionable ~out of pre-existing selection~, not otherwise.
mircea_popescu: in other stray thoughts : isn't it a wonder the "orange man" and the "guy fawkes" memes aren't merging ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 10:28 phf: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882924 << 26Nov-2Dec 54450, 3Dec-9Dec 24809, 10Dec-16Dec 31298 with breakdown http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/afho0/?raw=true i had word count code laying around not wired, it now sits in the stat bar at the top as the (running) word count for the day. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882726 << added
asciilifeform: phf: i've also bought a period (msdos-powered!) paltron, will attempt reading the original pals this wk
asciilifeform: this is re the component-side, naturally. (flatbed is unbeatable for the flat side imho)
asciilifeform: ( nao, if we had a source of ~coherent~ xray, could then replicate that https://archive.is/Gb34O thing! 'if wishes were horses..' )
asciilifeform: plan with the mega-photo, is that -- when i figure out how to stitch'em -- will make metre-sized poster for wall, to scribble on as i reverse the thing...
asciilifeform: ( xray is waiting on the film tho )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 11:56 phf: asciilifeform: i saw you posted a highres photo of macivory you found on the internet, but could you perhaps post a couple of nice photos of your current board, where one can see labels on chips and whatever text on the surface
diana_coman: this might be to some extent theme-related as well but I'm not too keen on sinking time digging into it really
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1882987 -> my tests show that you can rely on <strong> </strong> for it to show in bold (b, em seem to be eaten); in further infuriating things, <blockquote> works but ONLY if used on separate line (i.e. this is a <blockquote>bbw </blockquote> will do nothing but this is a \n <blockquote>biegw</blockquote ...works
diana_coman: at any rate, the fact that the summaries seem to elicit further discussion and clarification of the original topics is further benefit (I did not expect it / think of it at all initially)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-25 16:56 mircea_popescu: kinda addictive to write, too, aren't they.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1882978 -> I'm in 2 minds on it: basically there is a lot to gain from doing it, the way I see it so that's a big pull; onth it can eat up a lot of time and it's not always the easiest of things either
diana_coman: perhaps unsurprisingly, the relative lengths of logs are not quite enough to predict relative lengths of summaries, ofc; the 10-16 dec summary is a whopping 5.1k compared to 3.7k 26-2Dec despite logs being 31.3k vs 54.4k respectively; anyways, I'm rather relieved it turns out that the summary IS at least shorter than the logs!
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 15:58 diana_coman: phf, would it be a big bother to get for me the number of words in the logs for the weeks 26Nov-2Dec, 3Dec-9Dec, 10Dec-16Dec 2018? It's more to satisfy my curiosity on whether the relative sizes match the variation in size of my summaries for those weeks or not.
phf: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882924 << 26Nov-2Dec 54450, 3Dec-9Dec 24809, 10Dec-16Dec 31298 with breakdown http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/afho0/?raw=true i had word count code laying around not wired, it now sits in the stat bar at the top as the (running) word count for the day. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882726 << added
asciilifeform: ( for instance, expose 2 overlapping films using spinthariscope. separate the films, and on each end extract pad bits via programmable lcd diffraction grate, where each grate pattern is determined by output of prev. )
a111: Logged on 2016-02-03 01:53 asciilifeform: actually for many years i have thought about the ideal electric otp.
asciilifeform: while on subj, i suspect that the pill for ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-03#1394833 puzzler, if indeed one can exist, lies in some variation on chemical photography. ( observe that there is no known means of observing the latent image in silver nitrate without developing the film )
asciilifeform 'moving backwards in time' technologically in other aspects also -- about to do some old-fashioned chemical b&w, for instance
asciilifeform: ( and the only reason not from 2003 comp, was that i wanted moar bitness, back then, for address lines )
asciilifeform: thinking moar re the 'sense of time' thing, i suspect that my clock stopped where ~anything last happened~. e.g. i'm posting from a 2009 comp.
mircea_popescu: or in the next one.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i don't even consider fettards delivered to this world in that same five year plan the "reforms" came.
asciilifeform: perhaps cuz mentally stuck there
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 00:25 asciilifeform: z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-26#1883049 << absolutely fucking not. "everywhere" ? are you fucking kidding me, reading university hasn't discovered the wonder of microphony, in 2018. i'm sure they had the (by then 20yo items) back in 1898, state of the art, too. but 120 years later... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764531 and all that. costa ricans can't fucking merge, what "everywhere".
mircea_popescu: let them do just that. "i know your wife thinks you're the best she could ever do, but truth be told a name's wasted on your dumb ass" is way the fuck more important, useful etcetera than whatever else they thought they were gonna do that evening.
mircea_popescu: this is what the internet was even fucking sold as! "this'll be a place where every fucktarded murican, coolest-guy-in-his-town goes to find out he didn't even make the qualifying tops"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << always a great idea. people ~should~ have ample opportunity to discover how insufficient, unimpressive, etcetera they are. i don't mean "fair" opportunity, ie, a 9mn% increase over what their environment currently provides. i mean fucking ample.
asciilifeform: ( or even earlier , feynman had a 'some people do physics, others -- stamp collecting' thing )
mircea_popescu: afaik it's new art ; but then again, novelty in this world.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 17:51 phf: asciilifeform: it ~is~ the infamous mappers and packers thing, m&p is first chapter
asciilifeform: there was an ancient heathen essay re subj, somewhere, in fact - but i've misplaced it
asciilifeform: the 'E' vs 'L' thing in http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/ is interesting btw
mircea_popescu: eventually someone has to do something about all the random piling up at the periphery. sad but true.
mircea_popescu: much like the romanian morons imagined in the 80s they want to be "free", as opposed to "they want romanian industrial committments to better reflect their own personal committments [to irrelevancy, impotence and ultimately inexistence]".
mircea_popescu: in any case, the idea was that the thing neckbeards and assorted morons ("open source" or free ranged) MOST associate with "the bad" is merely a necessary function of a working system.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think it's underhanded in the sense i don't think underhanded means anything in the context. there's a very strict difference between the priviledged and the unpriviledged position, "only do those things specifically allowed" vs "do all things not specifically forbidden". while you'd expect a customer to only read mail addressed to him, it's iffy whether you expect the post office to read all mail it can
asciilifeform: z80 of course not only costs fiddycents, but ~still made~ , and so has been photographed errywhere, prolly even in zimbabwe. whereas there's maybe 50 'ivory' remaining total.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-25 23:19 amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << iirc i explained in prev thread: i have a veerry limited supply of samples. and so, i'd be willing to share 1 with a commercial lab, supposing i had with what to pay, or the proprietor were serious re 'pro bono'. but not so excited to give to some d00d who uses rust remover and layers,whatlayers, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 16:32 asciilifeform: !Q later tell amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
amberglint: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881120 << unfortunately no src, I only have the binaries
amberglint: btw, I was considering asking this microscopist if he wants to help you with the Ivory micrograph, but after the last attempt I'm not sure if it's a good idea
lobbesbot: amberglint: Sent 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful
asciilifeform: if there lives a hero who knows how to merge the 2cm of ugh that dun fit on the bed -- plox to write in. meanwhile i'ma attend to other items on conveyor.
asciilifeform: http://hugin.sourceforge.net for instance ( i dun even know of any serious alt- to the thing ) . author apparently is militantly retarded, thing feels free to cut pieces from the inputs moar or less randomly
asciilifeform: in other noose, opensores photo 'stitchers' really suck.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hmm, selections js thing dunwork for comments apparently << Depends on how far the theme stretches the selectable area.
asciilifeform: ( ftr nuffin interesting's shown up in the hopper of yet, possibly because BingoBoingo not yet gotten around to setting up the route )
asciilifeform: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/comment-page-1/#selection-95.505-95.623 << mircea_popescu is implication that this is an underhanded thing to do ? cuz i dun see any diff b/w trinque's wallet eating unsolicited coin for the glory of trinquedom, and asciilifeform swallowing unsolicited packets ( i.e. without valid customer ip as dest addr ) ditto
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something. << The retards here do "Vení" instead
mircea_popescu: oh wait, is the expected format <a href=""></a> rather than <a href=></a> ? (this'd be new to both the w3c and mp-wp_
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, fixed the "whe" and thanks for the comment! Can you believe that summary is actually...5k words and a bit to spare too?
asciilifeform: the rest, will post when whole orchestra post.
asciilifeform: in other oddities and 'where on the net is this discussed? nowhere?', http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_lamp_peek.jpg << old-fashioned 2layer pcbs are interestingly transparent to visible light. (obv. whole thing, aint, but give surprising amt of info otherwise not accessible )
mircea_popescu: sometimes i think the ~only social product of females in this country is the yelling out of various names, sometimes interspersed with "venga" or something.
BingoBoingo: And in other Christmas stories https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/navidad-en-malvin-fiesta-que-termino-en-botellazos-y-piscina-en-la-calle-no-tenian-autorizacion-20181225135243
mircea_popescu: much like the man who didn't lose the house in MMM hysteria might be proud : naggum has a snippet with y2k
mircea_popescu: i expect i spent <week total to date with them. which yes, since you ask, i am quite proud of.
mircea_popescu: (there's a special settings page for listing allowed tags, and i'm starting to suspect this should be standardized by now -- tho why the fuck is it <b> rather than <very-nice-and-thickly_bold> and wtf is <blockquote>, <bq> was taken ?!)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "even whe she" ; the rest ima comment.
asciilifeform meanwhile got hold of a gigantic flatbed scanner, with afaik densest available sensor, '9600x9600 dpi', which in human units is ~3 micron / pixel. which'd be aaaalmost enuff to simply scan the die, if i had the naked die... but i'ma scan the pcbs with it, and the xray film, when i get hold of the latter.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-outbridge-the-bitches-bow-the-various-things-you-didnt-know/ << Trilema -- The Outbridge, the Bitches' Bow, the various things you didn't know...
mircea_popescu: kinda addictive to write, too, aren't they.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 23:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman
mats: asciilifeform: i used the prev build. after updating to mainline, no issues getting a tx out
asciilifeform: in other quasi-news, 1 pseudo-puzzler solved, from horse's mouth: 'United States Flags Should Remain at Half- Staff Until Sunset on December 30, 2018 in Honor of George H.W. Bush '
BingoBoingo: And there is a general transit strike that coincidently happens to overlap with when transit is shut down anyways.
BingoBoingo: Update on the Christmas tradition known as "Hay ladrones por Navidad. Ladrones de los barrios pichis van a Pocitos a robar": God damn this place is rural. Two off road style 4-wheelers seen being ridden by kids in the streets and Police tucked away everywhere drinking Mate and dicking around on their cell phones.
asciilifeform: cuz if not, then no surprise that it dun propagate tx, can't propagate if aint talking to peers
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 17:13 mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored
asciilifeform: via BingoBoingo's link, https://archive.is/Q1nHg lulz >> 'Treasury’s website, www.treasury.gov, will not be updated. However, the following areas will continue to receive regular updates: Financial Sanctions, including the Specially Designated Nationals List (SDN List)... "
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 09:28 mats: has anyone successfully gotten a trb tx mined in the six months? i have tried several times and not succeeded
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Preparations For The Second Navidad In Uruguay
mircea_popescu: welcome to the argentina event.
mircea_popescu: his assurance is worth diddly, but the fact he has to make it...
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 18:43 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in other http://trilema.com/2016/sad-times-in-the-fiat-empire-apparently-you-cant-give-the-dollar-away-these-days/ news : wire processor informs me that they've a HUGE backlog of usd-to-ourside-reich transfers, and they're barely trickling out.
mircea_popescu: generally the mempool is pretty homogenous (ie, most nodes report the same tx set), but there's always basic stuff (did you include enough fee ?) and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 05:07 mircea_popescu: why, there's many towns all through asia built on tigdic principles.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775192 << and speaking of this, it occurs in conversation that romanian doesn't end there. any rotaku wish to try and guess what "bilbidic" might be ?
trinque: not that it explains why the nodes on the other end didn't relay for you, but there's a lot of layered mystery meat involved.
trinque: eh I think you'll rather want to -addnode republican nodes. -connect is exclusive
mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored
trinque: that much is true. iirc mod6 had a patch in the works.
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah that's the idea, for sure
diana_coman: phf, would it be a big bother to get for me the number of words in the logs for the weeks 26Nov-2Dec, 3Dec-9Dec, 10Dec-16Dec 2018? It's more to satisfy my curiosity on whether the relative sizes match the variation in size of my summaries for those weeks or not.
mats: has anyone successfully gotten a trb tx mined in the six months? i have tried several times and not succeeded
asciilifeform: it's still imho weird that there's 0 retail channel. (ordinary film can be had by the megatonne, from 9000 places )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea that's what i ended up with on my chalkboard, earlier. will give it a shot the old-fashioned way.
mircea_popescu: or you know, AdvancedMaterials@ashland.com. i'm sure they'll send you some.
asciilifeform: 'fish is what we dunhave over at the fish counter!'
asciilifeform: this kinda thing is normal, sadly, for heavy equipment, but this is the 1st time that i see it for an item in the disposability class of toilet paper
asciilifeform: in largely unrelated lulz, apparently there exists 'radiochromic film', nifty thing with high res and 0 sensitivity to daylight, 0 photochem processing needed, instant photo. but then asciilifeform goes and tries to ~buy~ a pack, and lulz, picture, industrial catalogues with 10,000 items and ~no prices~, apparently thing is distributed entirely 'in wot'
mircea_popescu: The woman even challenges him about it, in no uncertain terms : "you suck", she says, "you've got nothing", she says, "and you can't even admit it".
mircea_popescu: Ed Helms, Steve Carell, rando dork, they're all the same guy. lalala can't hear you.
asciilifeform: what was the author thinking ?
asciilifeform: given as good % of the userbase is prolly known to be sitting on nintendos
asciilifeform: it's where the thing dun display on $nintendo, that's puzzling
mircea_popescu: THATS WHAT THE NINE STEPS ARE ALL ABOUT -- REFUSE TO LOSE!!!
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi what the shitlife authors were smoking; even asciilifeform's www ( and yes incl ~all~ the maffs ! ) displays on even the saddest pnoje
mircea_popescu: basically, it's supposed to be my problem that their shit's broken. because they live in the best possible world and everything else is rape or w/e, "not understanding the concept of bdsm"
asciilifeform: i find it at least a little surprising that popular heathen www dun display on pnoje, but whoknows, the 'state of the art' in wwwistic dysfunction is always 'advancing'
mircea_popescu: no more of that! the new philosophy of http://trilema.com/2016/i-dont-think-you-understand-how-credit-cards-work/#selection-129.0-133.18 smartiepants is http://trilema.com/2015/racists-and-the-racist-idea/#selection-27.0-29.28
mircea_popescu: recall how all those old browsers wrote the text out of bounds whenever there was more text than bounds ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 17:22 mircea_popescu: hey, "apple has had a homogenizing and sanitizing effect on '''the internet''' (ie, the special reservation for morons, retards and other debris finding its way the fuck out since 1993)."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the innovation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882717 consists of the following bit of fighting the patriarchy and checking my privelage : IF their phone is insufficient, THEN reality will be truncated to fit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: obv 'key' is defined as 'the bits you actually need to get the payload out of the ciphertext', how else
mircea_popescu: nah, there's an iffy point there, "well.. so how does one get message out, guesses the odd bits you happened to use this time ?!" which is directly a rehash of http://trilema.com/2018/so-i-designed-a-block-chipher/ problem
asciilifeform: the site dunwork on ipnoje or wat was it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why exactly ~is~ it that they 'I can't even read the whole subject line' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, it'sa 'all or nuffin' situation, if you prove 'only odd bits leak', all you gotta do is to make the key 2x long, and the even bits are your nonleaking key, etc
mircea_popescu: rather, where leakage of key bits can be ~geographically bound~.
asciilifeform: ( the mega-q, from asciilifeform's pov, is whether it is possible to make a bridge b/w shannon's result and the practical, i.e. to demonstrate a method where key is smaller than payload (i.e. not otp) but where the actual leakage of key bits per N message bits sent, can be ~quantified~ with upper bound. )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile over at the intelligent moron farms, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TvslL/?raw=true
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, if there's been any movement on that front since 1940s, nobody's talking.
asciilifeform: currently nobody's got algo that doesn't do this (aside from the degenerate case of otp.)
asciilifeform: important not to confound the shannon bit with the practical. sending a dozen rsagrams, for instance, 'leaks' (in the sense where it is not difficult to derive) the public mod; which contains (again, from shannon pov, obv. nobody knows how to extract it trivially) the private.
mircea_popescu: give him some messages you don't care about, is the idea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, the question of what % of the "entropy" leaked was entropic. obviously from chtulhu's pov your message's just as delicious entropy as any other.
asciilifeform: per shannon, ~all~ methods other than otp (i.e. where key is shorter than payload) 'leak entropy'. the q is just how much, and how to even quantify.
mircea_popescu: the gods demand a sacrifice.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental cost here : EITHER have asymmetric keys, or ELSE leak entropy.
mircea_popescu: i think basically the point here is to summarize what was found. and that's specifically that a) there's no meaningful discussion of "better" or "worse" ciphers worth having when by "cipher" one understands "mixing in 0 entropy".
asciilifeform: the simplest algebraic variant is shamir's split (which trivially nukes 'knownplaintextism'). but it introduces a usable relationship b/w plaintexts, which is The Wrong Thing, and is how i ended up with 'hmm automata?' etc
asciilifeform: it has strong smell of The Right Thing, but i cannot claim to have nailed down precisely how it oughta go, just yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, kinda in the vein of my algo hash thing. but honestly i'd prefer an algebraic form.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:03 asciilifeform: picture the following 1-dimensional automaton, that eats bitstring in sets of 2bits, and : '10' -> 'tape step left' ; '01' -> 'tape step right' ; '11' -> invert bit at current square; '00' -> terminate.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 21:45 asciilifeform: anyway for 512bit key, you still keep the 128bit block. but each time you have incoming 128b plaintext, you shamir it rngistically into 512bits, i.e. 4 128b parcels that must be xor'd to reconstitute the original. each of these get ciphered with one of 4 independently-generated 128b keys.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the ciphers : it's the item asciilifeform regularly comes back to, iirc most recently in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-22#1742198 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613906 , but also we did the luby variant of same, and iirc earliest discussion was the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1589881 thing ( and mircea_popescu's various extensions of subj )
mircea_popescu: afaik it's space before so " ((" rather than simply "(("
mircea_popescu: schedule will then not merely "mix" the P bits but also explain how to separate the R bits out of E.
mircea_popescu: the more i think about this whole serpent business, the more it becomes evident that the ~only~ way to have a cipher (not encryption, ie, asym keys, but enciphering, ie, simmetric keys) stronger than serpent is to ~mix rng bits~. ie, the weakest cipher is the one where len(E) = len(P), and they're all equally week, and 1 serpent worth. to go stronger, you must have something that has len(E) = a len(P) + b sorta thing. the key
trinque: pretty cool lobbes. I don't know that I've heard anyone report yet that it didn't boot for them. I've still got more work to do to make the genesis.vpatch unform across runs.
lobbes is going to be road travelling for the next few days so may not be able to respond to pings right away. However I'll be reading logs and will respond to any pings upon return
lobbes: Btw, here is the vpatch of my second-run >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/genesis_2018_12_22.vpatch. Just to test, I used the 'classic' vdiff in lieu of my keccak vdiffer, but the sig still did not verify for me. Possibly just something I fucked along the way though
lobbes: to write up a blog poast of all my steps along with the kernel config I used for the lenovo)
lobbes: http://trinque.org/2018/11/27/cuntoo-bootstrapper/#comment-47 << to update: I ended up having to re-run the bootstrapper.sh as the first time around I neglected to get the correct kernel. Second run I was able to boot from teh usb on the lenovo x61 (exciting seeing that 'Cuntoo' in the lilo bootloader). Next up is testing a subsequent install onto the main HD of the x61 from the usb. (Once complete I aim
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1876124 << in other news, I figured out the cause of my node's sad: I'm an idjit and didn't set up proper periodic debug.log clearing (thing was 226 GB O-o). Truncating via a "truncate -s 0 /home/lobbes/.bitcoin/debug.log" did the trick; noad now is at 411015 (after being wedged at exactly 386827 for months).
mircea_popescu: also ((123 kekekek.)) isn't translated to footnotes. hey hanbot did you ever include footnote plugin or did that get dropped somewhere in the interim ?
mircea_popescu: the cause is that it apparently doesn't auto-save drafts (resolved if one manually saves a draft). imo autosave nice feature to have.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo adding to the list of weird : preview button doesn't work either for some reason (expected behaviour : puts up a "as it'd look if published" article view ; actual behaviour : redirects one to an empty add article page).
asciilifeform: i also dun wanna encourage the imho sad heathen thing where folx write 'take proggy and generate diagram'. imho proper proggy oughta be baked in such a way as to make this unnecessary, should be derivable from the description, rather than vice-versa.
asciilifeform considered to write a proggy to generate'em, but then thought better, 'would then have ~2~ problems'
asciilifeform: dunno if i said before, but these are a 1st-class bitch to write.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the end result is a recipe that involves a bit more user configuration, not the end of the world
BingoBoingo: and maybe spin up another new test instance or two.
mircea_popescu: but i mean... http://thewhet.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/cml4.jpg ?
BingoBoingo: The uploader though...
BingoBoingo remembers something happening to tinymce down the line with hanbots patches to mp-wp will have to dig to see what happened. Neither of the editor tabs appear to be linked to anything in the mp-wp's I've pressed recently. They've just been html input/view boxes.
mircea_popescu: neways, will have to get to the bottom of this, because "visual" mode is both stupid and orgmode-like ; and really can't blog w/o pics, take nicoleci 's latest task, she gotta put in the orig pics or else what are we doing here.
BingoBoingo listens puts press mp-wp again on the agenda
mircea_popescu: i suspect breakage somewhere along the way, because iirc hanbot 's mp-wp that i testrun at some point had these.
mircea_popescu: which is not even sane (seeing how if uncommented the server croaks) and anyway dysfunctional (really, mp-wp installation is vulnerable to cookie hijacking, you're supposed to lock down wp-admin by ip, especially if you're going to be clicking on random links).
mircea_popescu: this completely breaks it, at least as far as my workflow is concerned, because i never use anything besides 1 and you can't very practically get images in without 2. they're both core functionality of why i even bother with mp-wp in the first place, rather than some random other solution.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so here's the problem : in http://88isp.net/wp-admin/post-new.php as extant in current install, there's two major items missing : 1) the html view (tab is there, but apparently unlinked to anything) and 2) the upload/insert (pops up some version of media-upload.php with article references etc on sane installs).
BingoBoingo: It's not like the extra characters come with extra cost
mircea_popescu likes the pizarro 32char pws.
mircea_popescu: the specific installation.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-21 16:57 mircea_popescu: in other vaguely related line, person recently pointed out "you know, your screen+vi&bash combo is almost like emacs for retards", to much private merriment.
mircea_popescu: well BingoBoingo can i then have the item installed, since that's what i'm trying to test.
mircea_popescu: am i missing something here ? either it is or it isn't -- {automated ; identical}
mircea_popescu: (seeing how there's ~nothing else for them to do on a shared acct anyway ; at any rate it's been why i funelled them)
mircea_popescu: jesus i mashed f7 more than any other key before or hence
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882749 << there still aint anyffing (on pc, rather than bolixisms etc) that even equals the handiness of turboc & watcom (ideological successor, arguably) -- i.e. with the single-stepping inside editor, etc
mircea_popescu: nicoleci "Thereare" << your leads miss a space on all paragraph.
asciilifeform: ( aint even a card-edge connector, like isa,pci,et al, but ye olde 'eurocard' thingie, with pins, like the old suns had )
asciilifeform: in other weird, apparently ye olde crapples had no way to physically anchor the 'nubus' cards to the case -- they just relied on the mechanical friction of the connector. and strangely enuff, thing survived shipping, not loose at all.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2018/12/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-november-and-december-1715-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of November and December, 1715 - Part IV.
asciilifeform: for that matter : some folx have net access in their tombs ! behold : http://naggum.no << loads
diana_coman: but for the rest...no idea really
diana_coman: the summaries link is still working from what I can see
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fiddled with 'quickbasic' (the 'non-crippled' ver of microshit 'qbasic' for more yrs than care to admit
asciilifeform: never (at least then) located a programmable-anyffin that ran on these. all i managed to do was find how to get to the rom forth and hose the 'lockdowned' boxen
mircea_popescu: worked quite well in the dos/borland days.
asciilifeform: 'how come our '82 3rdhand 'commodore' has basic and these mega-comps dunhave'
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, not really worth doing one of these other than as a distributed store, and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re crapple lulz : bolixtron lives in a mid-90s crapple, and it's surprisingly better in buncha ways than their current offering (standard cabling, ultrascsi hdd, apparently standard period rams , ordinary vga, etc )
asciilifeform: if yer sending a probe to pluto, it'll actually rsa faster than the time of signal bounce, yes
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ty ! i'ma roll this (and your prev sigs) into the currently-baking ch
asciilifeform: ( i could go on at length, they've reached heights of lulz unknown even in 1990s, when they at least sold standard hdds. today even the drives have custom pinouts, cost 10 : 1 vs ordinary )
mircea_popescu: no, i mean apple. they're still out there trying to sell three inch "cables" for 19.95 aren't they ?
mircea_popescu: they found the standardkeepers -- those morons who still haven't figured out cabling.
mircea_popescu: hey, "apple has had a homogenizing and sanitizing effect on '''the internet''' (ie, the special reservation for morons, retards and other debris finding its way the fuck out since 1993)."
asciilifeform: lolcat is a powerful instrument, to be used sparingly, but imho nothing less would've sufficed for that part of the proof.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they had 'porn purge' powered by that 'ai', the one which picks up lolcats as cunt etc
mircea_popescu: (and yes, in general the same process should yield, tumblr got picked because google kept popping it up. but we DEFINITELY live in the age of retardation, google is as useful for search as soviet mall is for shopping.)
mircea_popescu: i'm totally NOT blowing the dust off ye olde ro chan thing for fuck's sake.
mircea_popescu: the question stands as such, where's the place for me to from:mircea haslink:true from now on ?!
mircea_popescu: in other news, this businessinsider piece on "where people moved on to tumblr now that tumblr went all clinton" is entirely worthless. like it's the 1990s all over again and granny brings you "a different game just as good" she found in the discount bin because wtf is this warcraft thing anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi what their racism angle is, most girls to call themselves "thicc" i ever saw were white (a subtrope of how "most girls to everything -- white, there's barely any blacks extant anyway).
mircea_popescu: lol he fixed it in the title...
asciilifeform: ( anybody can generate own set, via the given method )
mircea_popescu: anyways, i don't expect you have to or should vpatch the ~data~. is thar what you meant by "vectors" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 00:16 asciilifeform: * mircea_popescu has quit (Ping timeout << lol didja try an' run the test and overheat yer box
asciilifeform: the correct answs to the test patterns will be same regardless of how modexp is performed, today or 100y from nao. so handy test.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 00:29 asciilifeform: on proper (i.e. constanttimeistic iron mul) irons, 'uniform' and 'slid' test vectors will give same (to within timer jitter) runtimes when fed to ffa (of either ch13 or ch14 variety.)
asciilifeform: i dun presently own any examples of the last two mentioned irons, so gonna need some help (anybody have a ppc?)
asciilifeform: on utterly defective iron (under cosmic rays??) they will print eggogs, cuz answer of some modexp somewhere dun match the given.
asciilifeform: on defective (i.e. non-constanttime iron mul, or any other similar defect) they will give variant runtimes.
asciilifeform: on proper (i.e. constanttimeistic iron mul) irons, 'uniform' and 'slid' test vectors will give same (to within timer jitter) runtimes when fed to ffa (of either ch13 or ch14 variety.)
asciilifeform: these'll come in 2 variants (and for a selection of bitnesses) , 'uniform' and 'slid'; the former has 3 entirely FGistic args per modexp, and the latter also has'em shifted by random bitness (to give leading 0s, while excluding the prohibited div0 of 'mod 0' ) .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're exactly analogous to diana_coman's keccak test patterns, and can be made as large or small as one wants.
asciilifeform: * mircea_popescu has quit (Ping timeout << lol didja try an' run the test and overheat yer box
asciilifeform in other noose, generating coupla 10k test vectors for ffa ch14b. theory is great, and 'test can reveal presence of bugs but not absence'(tm)(r), but imho gotta have these
BingoBoingo: Whorehouse around the corner also still in business, "Fabrique de Pasta" on the corner however is not.
BingoBoingo: Should have went to Pitty Shoes before they closed up shop
asciilifeform walks on just this side of the razor's edge of 'fucking, i'ma make own shoes'
asciilifeform: the vendor, 'bp microsystems', interestingly still in biz. and STILL offers the dos proggy for dload!