asciilifeform: in general i agree re: 'wrestling with the pig', but i'm at a loss re: how we aren't simply wearing bull's eyes for no particular reason
mircea_popescu: the latter always leaves YOU with stupid in your code.
mircea_popescu: the correct thing to do is to ignore stupid not to code up to stupid.
mircea_popescu: "we fixed your car and your wife, overal the parts count has conserved"
mircea_popescu: "Skipping a bunch of details, they left something in her and it was the cause of last week's night in the ER. The working theory is it is a part from the surgical robot that got dislodged or broken off as all their sponge, suture, and staple counts were on. Regardless, it wasn't there before and it is now and I have no idea what the fuck is going to happen next. According to my wife, the surgeon is of the opinion that
mircea_popescu: i am terribly curious how the us would look should the eu decide to sanction IT for half a year.
mircea_popescu: it's true that an online blog the boys read said clean shirt wins.
mircea_popescu: her name's monetization, and that's the whole story.
mircea_popescu: in the woods cabin that is this world, the us shirt sits on the chest of a 16 yo, and his brother the 15yo yurp wears a dirtier one. Nevertheless, the absolute dirtiest one is worn by the 32 yo chinese man, whose shirt is dirty because he's the ony one who gets to fuck the only local woman
mircea_popescu: anyway, it doesn't matter that the us is the cleanest shirt in the room. that's not really the criteria.
mircea_popescu: "cleanest shirts of the shirts we're willing to see" doesn't have quite the same... flavour
mircea_popescu: exactly like the us counterparts.
ben_vulpes: how do these "chinese liquidity injections" actually work?
mircea_popescu: not in ohio, of course, but nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: there are people who would take a fucking picture of a fucking poster for fifty bucks
nubbins`: there are people who would do this for a buck a month
nubbins`: there are plenty of people who would do this for like 5 bucks a month
thestringpuller: LOL they are already doing it!!!
thestringpuller: We should just take their money by running old nodes.
thestringpuller: so is the bitcoin incentive program going to scale into "If you upgrade to hard fork, we'll incentivize you *wink wink* ?!?"
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vf5xs/deathandtaxes_has_a_brilliant_posting_on_the/ << more whining and machinations of flailing arms
thestringpuller: Really needs to be a drinking game for these things where you take a shot everytime someone uses a buzz word.
thestringpuller: How is Apple making so much money? Does everyone use macs these days?
thestringpuller: lol the quarterly reports are coming out
mircea_popescu: jurov: well, there is a torrent published for bootstrap.dat. atm only > 0.9 supports it << are we desperate for old style blockchains ?
TomServo: Interesting concept there.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: let's put a pin in this for down the road << you're keeping screenshots aren't you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: nubbins`: incentive program << this is what makes zero sense. the buggers have infinite fiat budget, and to their soldiers, they offer... pocket change << you have to understand the extrmely problematic nature of infinite budget. suppose you were trying to fly an aeroplane that had infinite thrust.
nubbins`: (incidentally, the volca sample receives OS updates as modulated audio via a 3.5mm stereo jack)
mircea_popescu: do they ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, i guess they don't manage in however many posts to get to addressing the key point of "who pays davis' salary these days".
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mircea_popescu: so im having the 2nd breakfast of the day. like the previous one, this one also consists of milk and apple pie.
nubbins`: thestringpuller "stole"? o.O
thestringpuller: Who opposes the blocksize limit cause he can't get laid.
thestringpuller: Oh hey the romanian camel d00d!
jurov: and when the torent is updated, it is only appended to
jurov: but the bootstrap file itself is pretty harmless. just blocks, nothing else
asciilifeform: if sata drive found, then looks for blockchain on it, sets as datadir
jurov: well, there is a torrent published for bootstrap.dat. atm only > 0.9 supports it
asciilifeform: thing will be snarfed from nand by 'u-boot' on powerup, same as linux kernel presently is, and then run
asciilifeform: ramdisk is a must because there is no support in netbsd for pogo's nand flash
asciilifeform: (netbsd's cross-build system is buggy as all hell, and it may turn out that i'm the only one trying to use it in anger presently)
asciilifeform: except for the ramdisk
nubbins`: imaigne manually patching .5.3 for two days, then downloading the blockchain off a random torrent
asciilifeform: it isn't the start for anything you want
nubbins`: not really smooth sailing for any definition thereof, but it's a start
nubbins`: leave the stale one around for a week to let existing peers finish
asciilifeform: nubbins`: like blood donations, this is probably not the kind of thing you want to pay for and end up seeing done by folks who need the money.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: much like that vacuum cleanner manages to keep the house clean << i recently bought just such a machine. there are at least a dozen manufacturers, and apparently all but one sell machine that work on 'random walk' principle.
nubbins`: let's put a pin in this for down the road
asciilifeform: which appears to sponsor the 'bitnodes' thing
asciilifeform: the phoundation
nubbins`: are you talking about the .foundation now? XD
asciilifeform: nubbins`: incentive program << this is what makes zero sense. the buggers have infinite fiat budget, and to their soldiers, they offer... pocket change
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: ;; later tell mircea_popescu is there no report for F.DERP for january?
jurov: it comes with robot to manipulate these floppies
nubbins`: i can't imagine anywhere in the world having the capacity or desire to replicate 4k floppies at a time
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jurov: thestringpuller what do you quote?
nubbins`: Parking brake? But I'm not in the car anymore!
nubbins`: so what if the garbage will catch fire after i throw a lit cigarette in? i'm already on my way out of the building.
thestringpuller: love these pseudo arguments. better entertainment than television
thestringpuller: "Yes, and it reaches this point over 100 years from now." << i don't like to think of the future cause i'll be dead, let my children deal with the problem.
ben_vulpes: http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2015/02/09/apple-has-93-of-mobile-profits-650m-users-by-2018-says-canaccord/ << hard not to read this as "apple mobile users dumbest in the room"
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mircea_popescu: "I was told that this sample set was too small so I performed the same test over four to five years until I reached the sample size of 10,000 in total split into tranches of 100. Every time the answer effectively remained the same. All the samples lie between a 94% bias and a 100% bias."
mircea_popescu: Even among losers, theres hierarchy : the better ones leave, the scum of the scum sticks around."
mircea_popescu: If only more people in your unfortunate situation had the intellectual honesty to look their failure in the eye and take the jump, the world would be a much better place.
mircea_popescu: Congrats for figuring it out, and doing the right thing.
punkman: lolwut "The reason for my death is simple. I have concluded that in the realm of dating and relationships the primary characteristics required for men are as follows."
mircea_popescu: unrelated : Teacher explains superlatives, then has children give examples. Little Johhny : Big, bigger, biggest. Little Sammy : Hard, harder, hardest.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/futurology-or-the-very-scary-story-of-how-doomed-you-are/
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mircea_popescu: ;;google Personal responsibility and the Ponzi scam
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mircea_popescu: ;;google "Personal responsibility and the Ponzi scam"
mircea_popescu: it is incontrovertible fact that most people alive today will have cost more than they were worth by the time they die, and this by orders of magnitude.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> doesn't take much to feed them << this is true. cigarettes also don't take much to buy.
mircea_popescu: chetty they won't be roads i imagine, more like hovercraft pads.
mircea_popescu: which is fundamentally the point of ww2.
mircea_popescu: very true. however, you don't HAVE to fight a war to suit the artisan.
mircea_popescu: there's no doubt in my mind that the "every fuckhead's sacred, god needs every one" current mantra is headed the same way monty python saw catholicism go.
mircea_popescu: what's it called. the little derpy robot guy
mircea_popescu: much like that vacuum cleanner manages to keep the house clean
mircea_popescu: and we actually have the technoogy to make the robots work together and automatically
mircea_popescu: take out 99.85% of the population, suddenly roads can be straight np.
mircea_popescu: the only reason it's not automated ? roads aren't straight. and that is because ?
mircea_popescu: currently you have machinery that can cut up, melt and re-set the asphalt. much like a sort of "3d printer for roads", really.
punkman: doesn't take much to feed them
mircea_popescu: punkman "''a giant theft machine,'' moving billions illegally around the world, engaged in financing the heroin trade, tax fraud and wound up bilking innocent investors of at least $50 million." << the substance of unsubstantiated journalism.
mircea_popescu: the need for police, for instance, is a strict function of population density. places with < 1 person / sqkm do not need any police.
mircea_popescu: no further need for makework jobs, no more government crapolade, etc.
mircea_popescu: imagine a web without all the idiotic "web start-ups".
assbot: Anonimity, or the urban versus rural dispute. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DepwFw )
mircea_popescu points to http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ because it's illustrative of the concept. a global village is probably better than the current metastatic urban sprawl.
mircea_popescu: punkman depends how you select them. if well selected, something pretty cool i imagine. like, a world in which nobody is going to spam.
mircea_popescu: it will be BECAUSE he lost control, but the losing of control would have happened long before
mircea_popescu: but megatrends may well be observable in a short interval even if they are not in fact contained in that interval.
chetty: well the time between your 18 and 35 is not enough for actual species change, so its environmental ?
mircea_popescu: (the reason one can be ^ -2 while the other is at ^ 3 is the hugeness of population : you only need one guy to push complexity up. so in this sense, lower population is in fact insurance against decreasing average life quality)
mircea_popescu: people have factually gotten dumber. AND the world has got more complex.
chetty: Have people actually gotten dumber or has the world just gotten more complex?
mircea_popescu: this is the case for it : people of average intelligence are not actually smart enough to survive.
mircea_popescu: kinda why defranchising of most of the population / having money and resources controlled by a tiny minority / having most people live in ever larger harems, as ever more abject slaves of whoever's brain still works is unavoiable.
mircea_popescu: now im 35 and the average 35 yo CAN NOT support himself.
mircea_popescu: when i was 18, the average 18 yo could support himself.
mircea_popescu: as average iq keeps dropping and average intelligence drops with the square of the iq, and as complexity increases like a fucking cube of time or something, there's bound to be more and more of these.
Naphex: yeah but they just send it upwards
mircea_popescu: "they won't give you money directly ? that's fine, trick them into giving it to us! "
mircea_popescu: Naphex yes, it's what one of these things is, "con your family and friends".
Naphex: and essentialy just defraud their aquantances when it busts?
punkman: http://crockpotveggies.com/2015/02/09/automating-tinder-with-eigenfaces.html "Am I still using the bot? I've actually turned it off for now. Admittedly, it worked too well and started to conflict with work."
Naphex: is this the early stages, or just selectively picking idiots?
Naphex: mircea_popescu: apparently they are official google partners as well :O
mircea_popescu: Naphex: lmao. that ByExpress scam is insanely funny and totally retarded << teh accent lol. &teh mouthbreather speech speed...
Naphex: lmao. that ByExpress scam is insanely funny and totally retarded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJMJJIaIurs#t=604 . How are they even hooking anyone on this :o
mircea_popescu: at any rate : they can't have that much. bitcoin is NOT a democracy. votes DO NOT count. in fact, votes are squarely irrelevant in this matter.
mircea_popescu: sort of bullshit. whenever you run into it you can be pretty sure you've run into an usg nest, it's like the fox scent and the fox.
mircea_popescu: "Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority", that sort of stuff, "it doesn't matter which way it goes as long as you accept our framing of the issues"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They are 'Murican and can't distinguish consent and consensus
mircea_popescu: i find it quite amusing how gavin's 5th column are trying to turn their laughable defeat around into a sort of victory along the lines of "well we can';t have what we want, and that's okay as long as you admit democratic process".
cazalla: well, landed on the wikipedia page first
Vexual: Bb I saw some mall managers measuring shopfronts for glossiness ignoring the knock off asian disney shit in the centre of their center
Vexual: Whats selenium for then? A cheaper version of 10k iphones?
mod6: it's a free tool. other perf testers can get expensive. *shrug*
assbot: Spider-Man is now a part of Marvel's Cinematic Universe | The Verge
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Disney just scored another victory today agaisnt the persistent lack of 'Murican culture http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/9/8010169/spider-man-in-marvel-movies-the-avengers
mod6: there's jmeter for load testing, but it bites, mainly. and it's scripting sucks even more.
Vexual: Now her eyes are aligned mores the pity
Vexual: So I slammed the thing hard
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who the fuck';s gonna bother with him. >> http://sexylosers.com/089.html
whaack: mircea_popescu: was the pun on my name intentional?
whaack: financial capital of the world!
BingoBoingo: In a sort of roundabout way it did. Kind of a combination of a horror story that was deemed too gross to run in AaCP's former home and some recent questions left in the comments of the bedwetting post.
assbot: The Perry Bible Fellowship
BingoBoingo: "FATMOUSE IS A SELF-SUSTAINING INDUSTRY. FATMOUSE NEEDS A SUPERCOMPUTER TO COUNT ALL THE CALORIES HE MUST CONSUME. STOCK IN FATMOUSE ALWAYS GOES UP. YOU SHOULD BUY STOCK IN FATMOUSE. FATMOUSE EATS YOUR STOCK. YOU ARE AN INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING TO FATMOUSE."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> im waiting for the first Carmen_Beercunt << If I make my escape to the Phillipines to scoope up a handful of Azn wives I'll name the second this
mircea_popescu: im waiting for the first Carmen_Beercunt
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: Guest85903, just use the name that your mother and father gave you; honor them. << not a bad principle.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform someone in biotech had this sad story a while back about a lost farm. i had one too << Was this the lab flooded in the hurricaine?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo: Except for midsession disconnections << xchat irssi and all others can be config'd to not autoreconnect. so you can handle manually./ << Working on a online machine migration in the near future.
asciilifeform: esp. then.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Except for midsession disconnections << xchat irssi and all others can be config'd to not autoreconnect. so you can handle manually./
mircea_popescu: Guest85903: i'm working on setting up all the shit in the wiki << this really should be in the bash lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prototype knockout mice often get extreme obesity or cancer for their compelled bravery.\
mircea_popescu: srother is pretty fucking pissed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to this day i have no idea. originally found it some time in '99, i think. appears to be inspired by one of the 'leptin knockout' experimental mice
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what is this, the bitcoin jesus ?
whaack: So going back to my bitcoinquestion spree - do you guys believe the conversation in /r/bitcoin is controlled by a few people with many accounts directing an unnatural conversation?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And the fanfic crowd will on that doubt rewrite history.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Trilema reflects you were in Alabama. When trends on reddit change suddenly they will say you fucked all of the Bama cheerleraders in a heroic battle agaisnt Condie Rice
mircea_popescu: lobbes you and... all the usians here pretty much.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You fucked a fort in mobile. Full of nubile ROLL TIDE cheerleaders, or at least that will be the legend in 2145
IHB: hey <+mircea_popescu> why did they suspend your twitter account? how do you get suspended but ISIS is allowed to troll away
assbot: Fire in Alabama, let's make the most of it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIebCL )
IHB: i lived in louisiana for a while and we went to bama all the time
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in usa, it's jobs/professions more than 'soil' << Only because you are on the east left coast
BingoBoingo: <IHB> <+decimation> in the us, people are so mobile that they hardly have any loyalty to the soil < this more true as every day passes << Less mobile every week
mircea_popescu: it was a joke for up until the plane left.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually arond there, from say vienna to about moscow, people are fucking fixated on the soil. << Amazing how in spite of it mostly being a source of minable lead Ozark folk are still more fixated on their soil
IHB: <+decimation> in the us, people are so mobile that they hardly have any loyalty to the soil < this more true as every day passes
decimation: some are, but they are rare
mircea_popescu: multi in the sense of 50.
decimation: multi-generational farms and the like?
mircea_popescu: actually arond there, from say vienna to about moscow, people are fucking fixated on the soil.
decimation: but the threat of dying for that oak has become quite real
mircea_popescu: what, you think ukrainian peasant has no material or emotional properties ? just because you discount them as alien doesn't make them go away.
mircea_popescu: decimation you gotta understand, europe is europe. think texas during the 1800s, mix-y.
decimation: if I were some derp in a ukrainian village I think I would be on the way to whatever frontier I could manage
decimation: my understanding is that ukrainians have all been granted russian citizenship anyway, if they choose to use it
decimation: so the romanian government explictly granted this refugee status?
mircea_popescu: decimation: wonder how many lei it takes to get the local romaninan police to 'overlook' your immigration << it's a civilised country. if you don't break the law they don't care. if you show up at the border without proper paperwork you get fined 500 lei (~100 euro) and generally forbidden to reenter for 5 years.
mircea_popescu: being kept under wraps because whatever, can't go out saying the us caused a war atrocity and a refugee wave.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
mircea_popescu: "where they are met either with a mass of angry villagers, who refuse to let them take anyone" so czar's army, this.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
IHB: i sent you the coin
mircea_popescu: if you didn't get teh email, ask for another one.
BingoBoingo: whaack: Have you considered the "literal" nuclear option?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or they were cooked different places and Google didn't get the tug on its leash early enough
gribble: Error: This key already registered in the database.
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: wtf are they thinking ?
BingoBoingo got a new SSD in the mail today. Damn that fucker is thin.
mircea_popescu: omfg i step out for pie, i come back, all the lines out of whack!
BingoBoingo: Other text attached to that name is going to on a quick read get a context attached to it.
BingoBoingo: My gibberish name, fine name. mircea_popescu being the Romanian equivalent of John Smith fine. "Cocksmoker404" is limiting.
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: The important part of a "Name" though is that it is now a textual match for another concept.
BingoBoingo: Anyways 6 of the right months of history is prolly the minimum to be caught up on the -Stable branch of the channel conversation. Having answers... Maybe 12-24 months?
BingoBoingo: Guest85903: If you set up Xchat (or any other client) with SASL it will auth you with nickserve automatically in time
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: There's actually more, uglier crumbtrail.
ben_vulpes: at least robert viragh and the_minor_pestilence had the good sense to not leave a crumbtrail
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Actually I've done the opposite
BingoBoingo: Seriously check srother@mercenary-security.com 's email sig out there: "Please note: The information contained in this message may be legally privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure..." Sig on a public mailing list
ben_vulpes: for the historians.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2013 16:23:25; cads: tiberius, and if that's true, then I salute you
decimation: who would bother trolling us? the chances of some derp changing anyone's opinion on matters here seems pretty low
asciilifeform: to the whole spectrum, 'red', 'blue', whatevers.
asciilifeform: at any rate, usg is winning there - in its traditional objective of creating an open, gangrenous wound (rather than 'winning' in the usual sense of the word)
decimation: the local villagers, not being entirely stupid, want neither to die as nato puppet nor at the hands of ru army
asciilifeform: per orlov's analysis, kiev is summoning draftees not to fight and win, but to 1) create 'humanitarian' wank in the hope of usg assistance (georgia gambit) 2) forcibly burn bridges for the conscripted men (the idea being, they've fired on the east and 'must' fight to the death)
decimation: wonder how many lei it takes to get the local romaninan police to 'overlook' your immigration
decimation: "Draft resistance is at an all-time high: a mere 6 percent of those called up have reported voluntarily. This has forced the Kiev authorities to go knocking on doors – where they are met either with a mass of angry villagers, who refuse to let them take anyone, or else ghost towns where virtually everyone has fled. In the Transcarpathia region of western Ukraine, entire villages have been emptied, the inhabitants fleeing to Russia
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> also claimed to be working on a 'military' path to sovereign moldbuggistan, which screams 'provocateur' << I don't get very many of these. You FBI file must be thicker than mine.
asciilifeform: four days (?) after the philippines thing
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah he definitely exhibited that pattern. but my priors tend to 'random derp (maybe mr spam)' rather than 'usg agent'
decimation: mircea_popescu: both fall into the category 'shoot'?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I imagine his heuruistic is how they read his website