cazalla: i'd claim shoddy work but the crown this guy did, never had an issue
asciilifeform: mercifully little there is of it
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you at least understand the toolchain with which you grapple.
BingoBoingo: Aesthetics can only put up so much of a fight against engineering
cazalla: BingoBoingo, black people sorta ruined gold teeth didn't they?
BingoBoingo: No need to fund worm spread. Spread well enough on their own
asciilifeform: the 100k fella didn't mention funding worm spread
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Welcome to the wonderful world of ceramics
cazalla: mother fucker even
cazalla: what a fucking other fucker.. just chipped my front tooth after only having it fixed like a month ago
asciilifeform: target market is presumably wealthy usian tourists to the turd world
asciilifeform: 'If Shkreli acquires Biltricide from Bayer, he plans to raise the price of the drug to $100,000 for a single-day course of treatment, according to people briefed on Turing's business plans. No other changes or improvements to the drug will be made by Turing. The extra revenue generated by Biltricide is expected to earn Turing a fast profit for its investors and help defray the cost of developing other, experimental drugs, sour
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Exactly. I'm just now discovering the power of the delete key and like a toddler want to use it on everything.
asciilifeform: what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting << kernels
BingoBoingo: Building bitcoin-qt through an exercise that largely involved deleting makes me wonder what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting code
asciilifeform: but happens to include all the ones i could find here
BingoBoingo seriously though NEtBSD was for people who wanted sudo on their toasters
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The classical bitbet.py is useful
unbalanced: Did I see a bitbet.py somewhere in the past month or so? That sounded neat.
ben_vulpes: there's a particularly good sci fi story about people who lease their wetware out during the day, are monitored for minute reactions.
unbalanced: Instead of surfing Pinterest or trying to get Flappy Bird further along.
unbalanced: We'll whip up a few pages where a few seniors and students can tap big colourful rectangles to make their selections.
asciilifeform: ok i have no idea about others, but all of -mine- were bots, lol
unbalanced: (about the magical machine)
asciilifeform: but quite likely most of the 'workers' are also (secretly) bots.
unbalanced: Yes, I remember when Amazon came out with theirs, I read that story...
asciilifeform: that is, most if not all of the jobs, last i checked, pertained to spam
asciilifeform: it is, afaik, unique for one thing - being a haven of sp4mz0rz on both sides of the equation
asciilifeform: (yes, named for the chess 'machine')
unbalanced: I will be sure to leave branded empties near schoolyards like the Gallo salesment.
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Maybe that is the point of the exercise. Everything one could want to know about "marketing" can be learned from Modern Drunkard.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> everything in the ruby world is abandonware << everything in the webworld is abandonware.
unbalanced: Bingo, I get Bartles & Jaymes confused with the two cranberry farmers standing out in the marsh in their hip-waders
unbalanced: Purely scratching my own itch there. Not proposing a wetware CPU startup. No Tesla coming out of this one, just fewer manual SQL statements.
unbalanced: I can reduce the data cleaning chore via buzzword compliance: gamification, cryptocurrency, micropayments... child labor... addictive push notifications, the whole nine yeards.
unbalanced: We get a lot of data coming in where users enter things like "NHL" "Nat'l Hockey League" "N.H.l." or umpteen other bastardizations of whatever the short text field is asking for.
BingoBoingo: For people lacking history Vircurex was what cryptsy aspired to be until Vircurex was robbed to the point no one bothered robbing it anymore
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: what do you seriously expect from the language that spawned the framework that killed vircurex
ben_vulpes: everything in the ruby world is abandonware
BingoBoingo: "Television ads featured the fictional characters Frank Bartles and Ed Jaymes, two kindly old men so honest and down-to-earth they ended each spot by thanking viewers for your support."
BingoBoingo: "Not surprisingly, this misguided attempt at respectability failed. Thereafter, Gallo disassociated itself from Thunderbird by simply removing the Gallo name from the Thunderbird label."
unbalanced: mircea_popescu: yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything there... I was hoping for an API to hook into but my needs are custom enough I'll likely have to roll my own UI anyway.
BingoBoingo: 'Ernest Gallo told and re-told a story about driving through Atlanta and spotting a man drinking on the sidewalk. Whats the word? Gallo called out. The response was instantaneous: Thunderbird! and both the wino and the millionaire dissolved into laughter.'
unbalanced: But the question is, how do people driving by know I lurk here?
unbalanced: Ohhhh that's why I get called asshat all the time.
ben_vulpes: unbalanced: the term is "asshat"
mircea_popescu: this is the shittiest wetware cpu design yet.
unbalanced: Like captcha's I'd need a human decision for the choices my code couldn't make... and would need to run each one by say 5 people then take the "wisdom of the crowds" consensus answer.
cazalla: unbalanced, i don't believe so, exchanged a few emails with the guy who built that but unsure if he ever came here
unbalanced: I saw bitwork.io in an early qntra.net article... is the maker from around here, an #asset-erian?
asciilifeform personal record - 1 week. and appreciated humour perhaps too much after that. but story for another time
cazalla: mircea_popescu, sleep deprived hysteria? had this after the first week with baby, i have never laughed so hard and all i assume as a result from total lack of sleep
mircea_popescu is one of those rare folks that can stand guard two weeks and still appreciate humor at the end of it.
asciilifeform: this is not the only incident of 'modern' medicine failing to factor out comorbidities correctly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pathology arises in cases where victim - usually for reason of taking stimulator nonstop - feels no compulsion to sleep.
mircea_popescu: i think the pathology results from not actually respecting that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the thing is, when i don't actually sleep i revert to these 4 hour cycles with about an hourish of downtime, and im fine.
unbalanced: BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly.
asciilifeform: which suggests that u.s. army medics were right, and meth (or other stimulator) per se doesn't poison the user
asciilifeform: there are conditions that interfere with sleep. as in, cannot - or can only rarely - sleep. eventually fatal. but before victim dies, he experiences more or less the whole gamut of 'meth addict' pathologies.
asciilifeform: that photo only existed as a propaganda device, 'woman, see what the dope life does to face?!'
asciilifeform: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/28288/20150123/researchers-test-anti-cocaine-vaccine-taps-immune-system-to-end-addiction.htm << this is interesting -only- because of the photo of the crack woman from pediwikia. it used to have a face!
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: The cheapo lenovos come with AMD
unbalanced: Of course it wasn't a consumer Lenovo, but it seems if you buy the latest Intel processor for security features you may be buying a factory-pwned unit anyway.
asciilifeform: there is no excuse for lying. don't say 'i wrote an os' when you rolled a linux distro like 100,000 other folks.
asciilifeform: unbalanced: qubes << i most certainly never suggested it. as far as i can see, it's plain 'xen' and subject to all the caveats thereof ('escapes' etc)
unbalanced: ...so I looked for a laptop that would support all the goodies in Qubes, and ended up buying -- wait for it -- a Lenovo.
asciilifeform: unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell indiancandy1 marketing 101 http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-thunderbird-is-the-word.html
cazalla: looks like one of the cloudhashing.com guys has a new scam at freebitcoins.com to harvest emails at 0.0001 per
unbalanced: asciilifeform: my favourite part of that was learning that there's a "Persistence Division" -- sounds like an 80's electronica band
unbalanced: Oh jeez, I see the Dec statement, lots of authors. Nice model!
asciilifeform: ditto for the opiate 'vaccine'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << This
asciilifeform: picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: Well the MPIF ATC profit center died because MP ordered it when he saw continuing anything aTC would involve potentially unbounded costs.
asciilifeform: think for a minute if the 'why' isn't obvious
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l re: cocaine vaccine. the proposed 'dope vaccines' are one of the true eldrich horrors, that, were they actually put to use, would make folks pine for herr doktor mengele and his mercies
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: ATC's death prompted X-BT to end, not the reverse
BingoBoingo: unbalanced: On the plus side ATC's death highlighted a critical vulnerability in mining economics for alts
cazalla: a romp in the side alley = fear of being caught, but in full view of the public and on display for anyone that cares to watch.. must be something else?
cazalla: i assume you mean in full view of the public and not hidden away up a side alley
unbalanced: I wander off for a few months and sites fall off the web like flies.
unbalanced: BingoBoingo, thanks for the upvoice
unbalanced: mp, re: the TLP comment I saw this the other day: https://twitter.com/renaudbedard/status/567827024775127040
cazalla: i'm not, but prob for reasons other than implied (don't like to eat in front of others i'm guessing, but that does not bother me)
unbalanced: Sheesh, the conversation always takes a turn in the minutes it takes me to read a link and find a relevant reply
mircea_popescu: not a fan of restaurants either ?
mircea_popescu: well then makes sense.
cazalla: no, not really, i like the comfort of home where shameful acts remain out of sight
cazalla: you know, one of the many things i don't grasp about bdsm is what looks like a desire of people to do it in a social setting than privacy of ones own home
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes somehow this disease where "words, we are using them" has definitely spread to here.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it was like 2 other guys and about 7 girls. exactly one barely fuckable in the lot, and she looked and acted like a 17 yo cutting class.
ben_vulpes: was there anything interesting on display at all?
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink?
mircea_popescu: fuckign street clothes.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Not quite. More people opining on the forgetableness of champagne for the serious drink hobbyist.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean dressed as in swimwear either.
ben_vulpes: what's the point?
mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy.
BingoBoingo: "Theres a gathering round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams
And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar
BingoBoingo: Im not going to go overboard here by claiming that theres somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanalsay, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction
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mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/01/hey_we_just_now_invented_a_coc.html#comment-26844 << tlp gets some outright great comments
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, I linked a text authored by a person with more polished thoughts on the matter
BingoBoingo: gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesnt mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene
BingoBoingo: http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-10-reasons-why-the-gabf-sucks.html << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. Im well-aware of the brewery associations rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli
ben_vulpes: a, the...
ben_vulpes: or have the girl do it.
asciilifeform bows out of this thread because realizes he has no personal experience with any of the things therein, at all, nor does he have a working theoretical model of them
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Heathen pit costs time
BingoBoingo: <indiancandy1> there is one for gays also << Grindr
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs
indiancandy1: there is one for gays also
asciilifeform: well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more?
asciilifeform: my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day."
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asciilifeform: see also the wunderwaffen thread:
cazalla: i would do the twitch thing tbh, tinder dating you are capped at one man per date, twitch is unlimited
cazalla: nothing worse than a woman enthral by her iphone, i'd bet the tinder girls are much worse
mircea_popescu: so you're stuck being in the same space.
asciilifeform: but that's the actual mega-problem
mircea_popescu: you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it provides structure for the conversation.
asciilifeform: since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh?
indiancandy1: there are actually witchdoctors that specialise in this 419 thing
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The statement preceeding the hashtag is literally what the hashtag is all about
mircea_popescu: the problem is, you don't get the girl in a position to execute without the basement halfyear.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you that if she had the mettle to obey me exactly she'd have that viral she wants.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's rich, lol. rather like saying that spam is for nigerians to become millionaires
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 : buy borrow or steal an ipad ; install tinder ; go out wtih ALL the guys, insist they promote you on their social media.
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indiancandy1: im not down with the cool kids
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you got twitch ? or how the fuck is that ipad dating app called
asciilifeform: could be why having problem grasping the concept
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: do you drive a car? when you go to a petrol pump, do you pay them to fill your tank? or to wind your gauge to 'full' by hand ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re the name, i definitely got that one pat. no romanian's ever going to be a contender. and that mircea chick really faded after a brief moment of fame
asciilifeform: but sure, the lizarditude of the observable universe is a bit much to fit in a man-sized bucket. sorta like the apparent limit to achievable magnetic field density..
mircea_popescu: notice that there's no space for lizard hitler being any kind of stalin.
mircea_popescu: listen, there's not that much hr available. given your other beliefs you are required to believe he's the lizard hitler now.
nubbins`: prolly got fed up and moved to the woods
mircea_popescu: alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, no those books aren't albums. Just pulp. Titles on the spines look great on the bookshelf though. Cover art isn't bad either
asciilifeform: orwell more or less spot on - nothing happened in the 20th c. except as nominally decreed in some mega-empire or other
asciilifeform: (also can talk about att being every bit as 'usg' as any ministry, at the time of being a national telecom megamonopoly)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not so much earlier as to be alien or ancient. I mean they were propping up dementia guy from the TV ads as a figurehead
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious
asciilifeform: i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us
BingoBoingo: mod6: You know once 0.5.3.x stabilizes there's probably an opportunity for driving utilization by submitting it to various *BSD Ports trees as bitcoind-LTS
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: that was precisely why i wanted the sata feature, yes
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? << Surprised Cryptsy didn't hit the shitlist earlier
mod6: last note: this is all predicated on the fact that one would have run the v0.0.8 perl script to patch the R.I. So you might need to alter line 62 to point to the correct bitcoin build directory.
mircea_popescu: so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ?
nubbins`: i don't think there's any special duty or anything, just american electronics websites usually charge limbs to .ca
nubbins`: the customs form, i guess
nubbins`: how would the shippers know?
nubbins`: well, no, maybe the same
mod6: for the vi-impared, if you run the script as-is, and you hit that weird issue as I did, simply start up vi and run this
nubbins`: right, someone mentioned the exercise in patience i have awaiting me
mod6: anyway, the foundation will publish a polished script sometime during the first few weeks of march.
nubbins`: sadly, the cheapest pogo a canadian can land is $25usd
mod6: the static build script seems to exit after line 53 for some reason, haven't had time to debug. if one should figure out a workaround/fix/patch for that, that'd be much appreciated. otherwise I can fix myself when I'm back.
asciilifeform: because having it there - it is just unforgivable idiocy
asciilifeform: just like the memory leak
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: the way i'm thinking now, the 'sync from one node at a time' thing will have to be killed with fire before 0.5.3/pogo (or otherwise) is given to civilians
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nope, syncing "in the wild" to make sure it can. Looking like it will be a sub 2 week sync time so happy with that
mircea_popescu: decimation: Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' << afaik this view was never controversial. i was kinda surprised to see people react to my ocasional statement to the effect with total shock.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: have you tried restricting it to one known-good node on the lan to sync from ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I honestly and humbly lack the faculties of knowledge necessary to determine such
mod6 is on-the-road
asciilifeform: on the wire
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's the actual transfer rate ?
mod6: I can post it if you wanna use it though. the hope was to have a fixed one here by sometime next week.
mod6: this was never actually posted publically yet. there is some very strange bjam error that doesn't allow the bash script to continue automatically. if one runs it, then you'll have to comment out the build lines for openssl, bdb, and boost and re-run.
nubbins`: o, wait. there we go.
nubbins`: is the pitfall incomplete search results?
asciilifeform: ^ on the pitfalls of reconnecting that which has been yanked
asciilifeform: !s the lifeboat mutiny
nubbins`: you're not trying to compile it on the pogo itself, are you?
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering << ahahaha
nubbins`: didn't alf post some binaries to the ml?
nubbins`: no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering
mats: hm, i learned today you can prepend your prompt with a ':' and have a ';' at the end, it will ignore whats in between so you can just copy and paste lines right from your terminal
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indiancandy1: the media
indiancandy1: but the media wont pick it up
ben_vulpes: don't fuck around trying to get the attention of interns in tv companies, that's not going to fly.
indiancandy1: so the media wil pick it
indiancandy1: the porn did help
BingoBoingo: indiancandy1: You know how she got them on payroll...
indiancandy1: it wont go on thew news
ben_vulpes: do it in the nude, only way to get that kind of traffic.
indiancandy1: then di news around it
BingoBoingo: I don't know much more than they apparently exist
pete_dushenski: that they need any defense at all should be a red flag to society
pete_dushenski: it's just... there's so many goddam words and phrases